kale and digestive symptoms

[cecelia]

In the last month I have tried eating kale which I had not had
before. The kind I tried was that pretty pinkish purple curly
variety with greenish tips. I noticed when it was boiling in
the water that the water turned a dark turquoise blue color
which I thought was odd, later it turned more purple colored.
Anyway each time I had tried eating this kale I had two days
of intestinal cramps and loose malodorous BM's afterward. I
wondered if they put some kind of dye into the kale to make it
such a pretty color and if I may be reacting to the dye than
the kale itself. Anyone had anything similiar with this color
of kale or know anything about it? Thanks

margo

[Chris]

I cook kale almost everyday. Always organic, various types. I
have never seen the water turn anything but a very very faint
green sometimes. I have never had purple kale but did have
something with alot of red in it last summer a few times.
Russian red I think it was.

<cecelia@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
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> In the last month I have tried eating kale which I had not
> had before. The kind I tried was that pretty pinkish purple
> curly variety with greenish tips. I noticed when it was
> boiling in the water that the water turned a dark turquoise
> blue color which I thought was odd, later it turned more
> purple colored. Anyway each time I had tried eating this
> kale I had two days of intestinal cramps and loose
> malodorous BM's afterward. I wondered if they put some kind
> of dye into the kale to make it such a pretty color and if I
> may be reacting to the dye than the kale itself. Anyone had
> anything similiar with this color of kale or know anything
> about it? Thanks
>
>
> margo

[Quentin Gr]

This post not CC'd by email On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:08:52 GMT,
cecelia@ecn.ab.ca () wrote:

>In the last month I have tried eating kale which I had not
>had before. The kind I tried was that pretty pinkish purple
>curly variety with greenish tips. I noticed when it was
>boiling in the water that the water turned a dark turquoise
>blue color which I thought was odd, later it turned more
>purple colored. Anyway each time I had tried eating this kale
>I had two days of intestinal cramps and loose malodorous BM's
>afterward.

G'day G'day Cecelia,

Resistant starch is a common substrate for making farts.
Resistant starch is starch that makes it past the small
intestine without being converted to glucose.

When members of the cabbage family go rotten the gas given
off is carbon disulphide. This indicates that members of the
cabbage family contain sulphur. Researchers who studies
smelly river estuaries found that the basic mechanism
involved sulphates being reduced by anaerobic bacteria. When
they shifted their research to smelly farts they found
excess sulphates remaining from the use of sulphur dioxide
as preservative in fast foods was the main contributor to
smelly farts.

For what it worth I think you are over cooking the kale
and that this is part of the reason for the facts that
you observe.

IMHO when starting on ANY new high fibre food it is strongly
recommended that one starts with small amounts to allow the
intestinal flora populations to adapt.

Best wishes,

--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the
blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

[Alf Christ]

On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:08:52 GMT, cecelia@ecn.ab.ca () wrote:

>I wondered if they put some kind of dye into the kale to make
>it such a pretty color and if I may be reacting to the dye
>than the kale itself. Anyone had anything similiar with this
>color of kale or know anything

No, probably it is anthocyanins, very good antioxidants,
which is used by several plants to manage cold periods.
Purple vegetables are far more cold tolerant than green ones,
but, I think you didn't eat ordinart cale, but ornamental
cale, which is reported to sometimes have some slight toxic
effects like the one you describe. It is normally used only
for ornamental use :-)

[Alf Christ]

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:46:02 +1300, Quentin Grady
<quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

>For what it worth I think you are over cooking the kale
>and that this is part of the reason for the facts that
>you observe.

Boiling ornamental kale is known to give coloured water. And
it is of much less nutritious value than ordinary kale.

[Moosh:)]

On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:08:52 GMT, cecelia@ecn.ab.ca () wrote:

>In the last month I have tried eating kale which I had not
>had before. The kind I tried was that pretty pinkish purple
>curly variety with greenish tips. I noticed when it was
>boiling in the water that the water turned a dark turquoise
>blue color which I thought was odd, later it turned more
>purple colored. Anyway each time I had tried eating this kale
>I had two days of intestinal cramps and loose malodorous BM's
>afterward. I wondered if they put some kind of dye into the
>kale to make it such a pretty color and if I may be reacting
>to the dye than the kale itself. Anyone had anything similiar
>with this color of kale or know anything about it? Thanks
>
>
>margo

How much did you eat? I hope you ate it as a small component
of a mixed meal.

Moosh:)