Pasta everyday with something?

[Sudy]

Hello

I would like to try pasta every day or every other day.
Bearing in mind that I would be therefore consuming lots of
pasta each month, what healthy accompaniment needs to be
eaten with it?

Would anyone know if there are specific sauces/vegetables etc
that are healthy. Of course, I hope pasta itself is ok to eat
regularly. Please could you advise if not.

Thanks in advance.

[Brad Shepp]

Regular pasta isn't so great. There is whole wheat pasta - but
I'm not sure how it tastes. It's much better to stick to whole
grain products. I like oatmeal. The Harvard School of Public
Health recommends: The bulk of one's diet should consist of
healthy fats (liquid vegetable oils such as olive, canola,
soy, corn, sunflower and peanut) and healthy carbohydrates
(whole grain foods such as whole wheat bread, oatmeal and
brown rice). If both the fats and carbohydrates in your diet
are healthy, you probably do not have to worry too much about
the percentages of total calories coming from each. Vegetables
and fruits should also be eaten in abundance. Moderate amounts
of healthy sources of protein (nuts, legumes, fish, poultry
and eggs) are encouraged, but dairy consumption should be
limited to one to two servings a day. The revised pyramid
recommends minimizing the consumption of red meat, butter,
refined grains (including white bread, white rice and white
pasta), potatoes and sugar.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/pyramids.html

sudesh_krishnan@hotmail.com (Sudy) wrote in message
news:<659e5bc2.0302240500.77856313@posting.google.com>...
> Hello
>
> I would like to try pasta every day or every other day.
> Bearing in mind that I would be therefore consuming lots of
> pasta each month, what healthy accompaniment needs to be
> eaten with it?
>
> Would anyone know if there are specific sauces/vegetables
> etc that are healthy. Of course, I hope pasta itself is ok
> to eat regularly. Please could you advise if not.
>
> Thanks in advance.

[Alf Christ]

On 24 Feb 2003 05:00:30 -0800, sudesh_krishnan@hotmail.com
(Sudy) wrote:

>Would anyone know if there are specific sauces/vegetables etc
>that are healthy. Of course, I hope pasta itself is ok to eat
>regularly. Please could you advise if not.

Pasta is mostly starch and poor proteins from wheat. Rather
eat potatoes on a daily basis and pasta once or twice a week
and possibly rice once or twice (but the sum of pasta and rice
based meals should perhaps not exceed 3).Reason is that
potatoes are much richer in vitamins, minerals and low
molecular weight organic compounds, and some of the potatoes
are quite rich in proteins. Pasta is a synthetic food made
from milled, cleansed and purified, in some case possibly also
bleached wheat. It's good only for those with a psychic
disease believing only highly purified, synthetic food are
good for them and who relies only on pharmaceuticals for
feeding the right amounts of vitamins and minerals (believing
any other metals and organic compounds not mentioned on the
declarations are toxic to their healths)

[Red Herrin]

Can anyone think of scientific reason dietary guidelines must
be in a triangle? Why not a food hexagon, rectangle, or
trapezoid?

Are you SURE all the politics have been removed from
Pyramind2?

Red

Brad Sheppard <Brad@sheppardsoftware.com> wrote in message =
news:b06e736a.0302241223.5f0c1b00@posting.google.com...
> Regular pasta isn't so great. There is whole wheat pasta -
> but I'm not sure how it tastes. It's much better to stick to
> whole grain products. I like oatmeal. The Harvard School of
> Public Health recommends: The bulk of one's diet should
> consist of healthy fats (liquid vegetable oils such as
> olive, canola, soy, corn, sunflower and peanut) and healthy
> carbohydrates (whole grain foods such as whole wheat bread,
> oatmeal and brown rice). If both the fats and carbohydrates
> in your diet are healthy, you probably do not have to worry
> too much about the percentages of total calories coming from
> each. Vegetables and fruits should also be eaten in
> abundance. Moderate amounts of healthy sources of protein
> (nuts, legumes, fish, poultry and eggs) are encouraged, but
> dairy consumption should be limited to one to two servings a
> day. The revised pyramid recommends minimizing the
> consumption of red meat, butter, refined grains (including
> white bread, white rice and white pasta), potatoes and
> sugar.
> http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/pyramids.html
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> sudesh_krishnan@hotmail.com (Sudy) wrote in message =
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> > Hello
> >=20
> > I would like to try pasta every day or every other day.
> > Bearing in mind that I would be therefore consuming lots
> > of pasta each month, what healthy accompaniment needs to
> > be eaten with it?
> >=20
> > Would anyone know if there are specific sauces/vegetables
> > etc that =
are
> > healthy. Of course, I hope pasta itself is ok to eat
> > regularly. =
Please
> > could you advise if not.
> >=20
> > Thanks in advance.

[Brandon Be]

"Brad Sheppard" <Brad@sheppardsoftware.com> wrote in message
news:b06e736a.0302241223.5f0c1b00@posting.google.com...
> Regular pasta isn't so great. There is whole wheat pasta -
> but I'm not sure how it tastes. It's much better to stick to
> whole grain products. I like oatmeal. The Harvard School of
> Public Health recommends: The bulk of one's diet should
> consist of healthy fats (liquid vegetable oils such as
> olive, canola, soy, corn, sunflower and peanut) and healthy
> carbohydrates (whole grain foods such as whole wheat bread,
> oatmeal and brown rice).

Thus establishing once and for all that Harvard's school of
public health is capable of absurdity as great as that which
is characteristic of their social science departments. What
loophole in the Hippocratic Oath permitted them to recommend
corn and soybean oil?

[Lemony]

>"Red Herring" <rherring@freewweb.invalid> wrote in message
>news:1046179710.290864@savina... Can anyone think of
>scientific reason dietary guidelines must be in a triangle?
>Why not a food hexagon, rectangle, or trapezoid?

any more than 3 sides and you'd confuse the masses... if you
could come up with a 2-sided polygon you'd probably get an
even greater amount of people that understand it. ;-)

I recommend a food circle!

Lemony

[Toni Nikka]

"Lemony" <empapel@NOSPAMhotmail.com> writes:

> I recommend a food circle!

The Finnish health authority has a food circle recommendation.

[Si]

x-no-archive: yes On 24 Feb 2003 05:00:30 -0800,
sudesh_krishnan@hotmail.com (Sudy) wrote:

Spaghetti sauce is healthy, because lycopene is one of the
best defenses against cancer. I find Newmans Own is good.
Olive oil is healthy - I heat it up with some crushed red
peppers. I always add some parmesan cheese - not sure how
healthy that is. Green veggies like broccoli, spinach. etc.
are very healthy. Fruits and berries are very healthy. Apples,
oranges, grapefruit, grapes, etc. Blackberries and blueberries
are especially healthy.

>Hello
>
>I would like to try pasta every day or every other day.
>Bearing in mind that I would be therefore consuming lots of
>pasta each month, what healthy accompaniment needs to be
>eaten with it?
>
>Would anyone know if there are specific sauces/vegetables etc
>that are healthy. Of course, I hope pasta itself is ok to eat
>regularly. Please could you advise if not.
>
>Thanks in advance.

[Moosh:)]

On 24 Feb 2003 05:00:30 -0800, sudesh_krishnan@hotmail.com
(Sudy) wrote:

>Hello
>
>I would like to try pasta every day or every other day.
>Bearing in mind that I would be therefore consuming lots of
>pasta each month, what healthy accompaniment needs to be
>eaten with it?

A variety of anything that takes your fancy.

Try wholemeal pasta and egg pasta.

Moosh:)

[Moosh:)]

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 01:24:53 +0100, Alf Christophersen
<alf.christophersen@basalmed.uio.no> wrote:

>On 24 Feb 2003 05:00:30 -0800, sudesh_krishnan@hotmail.com
>(Sudy) wrote:
>
>>Would anyone know if there are specific sauces/vegetables
>>etc that are healthy. Of course, I hope pasta itself is ok
>>to eat regularly. Please could you advise if not.
>
>Pasta is mostly starch and poor proteins from wheat. Rather
>eat potatoes on a daily basis and pasta once or twice a week
>and possibly rice once or twice (but the sum of pasta and
>rice based meals should perhaps not exceed 3).Reason is that
>potatoes are much richer in vitamins, minerals and low
>molecular weight organic compounds, and some of the potatoes
>are quite rich in proteins. Pasta is a synthetic food made
>from milled, cleansed and purified, in some case possibly
>also bleached wheat. It's good only for those with a psychic
>disease believing only highly purified, synthetic food are
>good for them and who relies only on pharmaceuticals for
>feeding the right amounts of vitamins and minerals (believing
>any other metals and organic compounds not mentioned on the
>declarations are toxic to their healths)

Wheat has ~11% protein in my book, as opposed to 2% for
potatoes. There are also whole meal pastas and egg pastas.

Moosh:)

[Moosh:)]

On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:12:06 -0500, "Red Herring"
<rherring@freewweb.invalid> wrote:

>Can anyone think of scientific reason dietary guidelines must
>be in a triangle? Why not a food hexagon, rectangle, or
>trapezoid?

It is actually contained within two diverging lines -- the
convergence is where the foods least recommended are placed
(small area) and the divergence where most nutrition should
come from (big area). The lines are joined after that merely
for neatness.

A triangle (polygon) would be such that one point would
represent one of the pure conststuents (say fat) and the other
two would represent 100% of the other two conststiuents (say
carb and protein). Any point within this triangle would
represent a macroconstituent ratio depending on the closeness
to the pure points.

Moosh:)

[Moosh:)]

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:50:25 GMT, "Lemony"
<empapel@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

>>"Red Herring" <rherring@freewweb.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:1046179710.290864@savina... Can anyone think of
>>scientific reason dietary guidelines must be in a triangle?
>>Why not a food hexagon, rectangle, or trapezoid?
>
>any more than 3 sides and you'd confuse the masses... if you
>could come up with a 2-sided polygon you'd probably get an
>even greater amount of people that understand it. ;-)
>
>I recommend a food circle!
>
>Lemony
>

A circle gives no graphical representation of the preferred
foodstuffs compared to the non-preferred, No?

Moosh:)

[Brandon Be]

"Moosh:)" <ZZ@ZZ.ZZ> wrote in message
news:jllo5vknvdtgqt5q97cdb0n2rjvte4p11p@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:50:25 GMT, "Lemony"
> <empapel@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
> >I recommend a food circle!
> >
> A circle gives no graphical representation of the preferred
> foodstuffs compared to the non-preferred, No?

Pie chart.

[Moosh:)]

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 06:58:39 GMT, "Brandon Berg"
<bberg@cesmail.net> wrote:

>
>"Moosh:)" <ZZ@ZZ.ZZ> wrote in message
>news:jllo5vknvdtgqt5q97cdb0n2rjvte4p11p@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:50:25 GMT, "Lemony"
>> <empapel@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
>> >I recommend a food circle!
>> >
>> A circle gives no graphical representation of the preferred
>> foodstuffs compared to the non-preferred, No?
>
>Pie chart.
>

No, pies are bad for you :)

You can, but the thin end of a wedge compared to the fat end
gives a more instantaneous impression IMHO. But whatever you
like, I was just making a suggestion as to why the existing
chart was shaped like a triangle.

Moosh:)

[Katra]

"Moosh:)" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 06:58:39 GMT, "Brandon Berg"
> <bberg@cesmail.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Moosh:)" <ZZ@ZZ.ZZ> wrote in message
> >news:jllo5vknvdtgqt5q97cdb0n2rjvte4p11p@4ax.com...
> >> On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:50:25 GMT, "Lemony"
> >> <empapel@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
> >> >I recommend a food circle!
> >> >
> >> A circle gives no graphical representation of the
> >> preferred foodstuffs compared to the non-preferred, No?
> >
> >Pie chart.
> >
>
> No, pies are bad for you :)
>
> You can, but the thin end of a wedge compared to the fat end
> gives a more instantaneous impression IMHO. But whatever you
> like, I was just making a suggestion as to why the existing
> chart was shaped like a triangle.
>
> Moosh:)

Uh uh, Pie R' Squared...

[Moosh:)]

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 03:01:53 -0600, Katra
<Katra@centurytel.net> wrote:

>
>
>"Moosh:)" wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 06:58:39 GMT, "Brandon Berg"
>> <bberg@cesmail.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Moosh:)" <ZZ@ZZ.ZZ> wrote in message
>> >news:jllo5vknvdtgqt5q97cdb0n2rjvte4p11p@4ax.com...
>> >> On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:50:25 GMT, "Lemony"
>> >> <empapel@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
>> >> >I recommend a food circle!
>> >> >
>> >> A circle gives no graphical representation of the
>> >> preferred foodstuffs compared to the non-preferred, No?
>> >
>> >Pie chart.
>> >
>>
>> No, pies are bad for you :)
>>
>> You can, but the thin end of a wedge compared to the fat
>> end gives a more instantaneous impression IMHO. But
>> whatever you like, I was just making a suggestion as to why
>> the existing chart was shaped like a triangle.
>>
>> Moosh:)
>
>Uh uh, Pie R' Squared...

I thought it was Pies R Us.

Moosh:)

[Alf Christ]

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 03:40:00 GMT, SI <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes On 24 Feb 2003 05:00:30 -0800,
>sudesh_krishnan@hotmail.com (Sudy) wrote:
>
>Spaghetti sauce is healthy, because lycopene is one of the
>best defenses against cancer. I find Newmans Own is good.

If based on tomatoes, yes, but if there is not tomato in the
sauce (based on cream or other things) there are no lycopenes
there.And many use soy oil instead of olive oil, and then
there is almost no omega-3 or omega-9 acids (MUFA) there, only
lots of bad omega-6 :-(

[Alf Christ]

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 08:44:40 GMT, "Moosh:)" <ZZ@ZZ.ZZ> wrote:

>Wheat has ~11% protein in my book, as opposed to 2% for
>potatoes. There are also whole meal pastas and egg pastas.

Well, what potatoe? Industrial potatoes grown for aqua-vitae
production is about that low in proteins, but they taste
dreadfully.

Some strains are above 20% And the more, the tastier.

[Brandon Be]

"Katra" <Katra@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:3E5C8281.99A57B51@centurytel.net...
>
>
> "Moosh:)" wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 06:58:39 GMT, "Brandon Berg"
> > <bberg@cesmail.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Moosh:)" <ZZ@ZZ.ZZ> wrote in message
> > >news:jllo5vknvdtgqt5q97cdb0n2rjvte4p11p@4ax.com...
> > >> On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:50:25 GMT, "Lemony"
<empapel@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
> > >> >I recommend a food circle!
> > >> >
> > >> A circle gives no graphical representation of the
> > >> preferred
foodstuffs
> > >> compared to the non-preferred, No?
> > >
> > >Pie chart.
> > >
> >
> > No, pies are bad for you :)
> >
> > You can, but the thin end of a wedge compared to the fat
> > end gives a more instantaneous impression IMHO. But
> > whatever you like, I was just making a suggestion as to
> > why the existing chart was shaped like a triangle.
> >
> > Moosh:)
>
> Uh uh, Pie R' Squared...

But two pie are the diameter, and that's a line.

[Oliver Cos]

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 08:51:00 GMT, "Moosh:)" <ZZ@ZZ.ZZ> wrote:

>On 24 Feb 2003 05:00:30 -0800, sudesh_krishnan@hotmail.com
>(Sudy) wrote:
>
>>Hello
>>
>>I would like to try pasta every day or every other day.
>>Bearing in mind that I would be therefore consuming lots of
>>pasta each month, what healthy accompaniment needs to be
>>eaten with it?
>
>A variety of anything that takes your fancy.
>
>Try wholemeal pasta and egg pasta.
>
>

Whole wheat pasta has the consistency of library paste, at
least what I can find locally.

>Moosh:)

[Moosh:)]

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:20:15 -0800, Oliver Costich
<olc-caNOSPAM@cox.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 08:51:00 GMT, "Moosh:)" <ZZ@ZZ.ZZ> wrote:
>
>>On 24 Feb 2003 05:00:30 -0800, sudesh_krishnan@hotmail.com
>>(Sudy) wrote:
>>
>>>Hello
>>>
>>>I would like to try pasta every day or every other day.
>>>Bearing in mind that I would be therefore consuming lots of
>>>pasta each month, what healthy accompaniment needs to be
>>>eaten with it?
>>
>>A variety of anything that takes your fancy.
>>
>>Try wholemeal pasta and egg pasta.
>>
>>
>
>Whole wheat pasta has the consistency of library paste, at
>least what I can find locally.

I wonder if you cooked it properly. I don't actually like
pasta in general, so I don't recall much of the details of
other pastas, but I don't recall them being all that different
to all pastas. They are just a base for the sauce IMO. :)

I like cauliflower or broccoli with pasta sauce on it.

Moosh:)

[Moosh:)]

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:56:20 +0100, Alf Christophersen
<alf.christophersen@basalmed.uio.no> wrote:

>On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 08:44:40 GMT, "Moosh:)" <ZZ@ZZ.ZZ> wrote:
>
>>Wheat has ~11% protein in my book, as opposed to 2% for
>>potatoes. There are also whole meal pastas and egg pastas.
>
>Well, what potatoe? Industrial potatoes grown for aqua-vitae
>production is about that low in proteins, but they taste
>dreadfully.
>
>Some strains are above 20% And the more, the tastier.

I cant find anything much more than 3 - 5% as hoped for by the
genetic engineering crowd. What varieties have this protein
content, Alf?

Moosh:)