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Angeline
Mon, Feb-17-03, 20:08
Can your diet affect Alzheimer's risk?

Studies suggest fats that protect heart do the same for brain
Monday, February 17, 2003 Posted: 4:02 PM EST (2102 GMT)


CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- Some dietary fats might help prevent Alzheimer's disease, others may increase the risk and -- contrary to some reports -- antioxidant vitamins may have no effect on the mind-robbing ailment, two studies suggest.

The study on fats adds to growing evidence that the same type of diet that protects the heart may benefit the brain.

Data are more mixed on effects on Alzheimer's of antioxidants such as vitamins C and E and beta-carotene, although recent studies have suggested a potential benefit, and scientists say a link makes biological sense.

The discrepancy may be explained by different study characteristics, say authors of the latest antioxidant research, from Columbia University. Their study, which found no effect from consuming antioxidants, involved older people who might have been less susceptible to the vitamins' purported benefits, and subjects were followed for a shorter period.

Longer-lasting earlier research may "have allowed for a better opportunity to find an association," said Columbia's Dr. Jose Luchsinger, the lead author.

It's possible that there truly is no association, although more research is needed to determine that, Luchsinger said.

The vascular-Alzheimer's link
His study and the fats research are published in February's Archives of Neurology.

The fats study, led by researcher Martha Clare Morris at Chicago's Rush-Presbyterian-St. Luke's Medical Center, involved 815 Chicago residents ages 65 and older who were asked about their eating habits. Follow-up tests nearly four years later found that 131 participants had developed Alzheimer's.

People who reported consuming relatively large quantities of saturated fats, found in many animal-based products including meat and butter, faced double the risk of having Alzheimer's compared with people who ate very small amounts. That risk was found for people who ate on average 25 grams of saturated fats daily; one tablespoon of butter has about 7 grams. Lower but still elevated risks were linked with smaller amounts of saturated fat.

Those who consumed large quantities of polyunsaturated fats (14.5 grams daily), found in vegetables and nuts, faced a 70 percent reduction in Alzheimer's risk, compared to those who ate small amounts of these fats.

Morris said the benefits could be gained from regularly eating foods like toast with polyunsaturated margarine, peanut butter, nuts and safflower-oil salad dressing.

The findings are "really consistent with other data that has been developing that suggests anything that raises your risk of vascular disease is associated with more Alzheimer's disease," said William Thies, vice president of medical and scientific affairs for the Alzheimer's Association.

Eating unhealthy fats promotes the buildup of "bad" cholesterol, which can narrow arteries. Researchers think it may also promote the formation of protein deposits called beta amyloid in the brain -- a hallmark of Alzheimer's.

Antioxidants don't appear to help
The study of antioxidants involved 980 Medicare patients in New York, averaging age 75, who were asked about their food intake during the first year of the four-year study.

Alzheimer's was diagnosed during the study in 242 people.

Participants reported eating varying amounts of foods rich in antioxidants, such as oranges, corn-oil margarine and carrots. Some also took supplements, but no amount of antioxidants was associated with a decreased risk of Alzheimer's.

Antioxidants can block the effects of oxygen molecules called free radicals, which can damage cells and promote the accumulation of beta amyloid, the authors said.

Thies said the results don't rule out the possibility of an Alzheimer's-related benefit from antioxidants.

Previous evidence suggests "that it is not what you're doing in your late 70s that's going to affect your risk of dementia, it's what you're doing in your 50s and 60s," Thies said.

"I do think this suggests that antioxidants' effects are perhaps not huge," and that "vitamin E or C are never going to be a perfect preventative," Thies said.

Article can be found here (http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/conditions/02/17/alzheimers.diet.ap/index.html)

Sheldon
Tue, Feb-18-03, 07:08
This bears watching, of course. But the usual questions arise. What else were those people eating? What else about their lifestyles was different (e.g., exercise, mental activity)? Did the researchers control for socio-economic status? How accurate was their reporting of their fat intake and its composition? What does a doubling of the risk really mean? The change in absolute risk can be very small even with a doubling of the relative risk.

Sheldon

Lessara
Tue, Feb-18-03, 11:50
My mother's mother had Alzheimer and I saw what my grandmother went through. I eat alot of saturated fat as well as the good fat. My risks are higher than most as it is.
(I never cook meat or anything in Aluminum foil). I wonder though if saturated fats work the same in a low carb diet as in a high carb diet. Will it have the same effect?

Azlocarb
Tue, Feb-18-03, 12:36
"Eating unhealthy fats promotes the buildup of "bad" cholesterol, which can narrow arteries. Researchers think it may also promote the formation of protein deposits called beta amyloid in the brain -- a hallmark of Alzheimer's."

As most of us know, cholesterol is not the bad guy that the doctors keep saying it is and even if it was, the "bad" cholesterol usaully goes down doing low-carb.

Angeline
Tue, Feb-18-03, 13:25
Eating unhealthy fats promotes the buildup of "bad" cholesterol, which can narrow arteries. Researchers think it may also promote the formation of protein deposits called beta amyloid in the brain -- a hallmark of Alzheimer's."

That quote seems just some parroting from the reporter, and doesn't seem to be attributed to the research. I wouldn't dismiss the study on that basis alone.

Also even if they discover they were wrong about cholesterol, it doesn't necessarily invalidates this particular finding.

There has been a few instances of Alzheimer on my mother`s side of the family. My aunt, uncle and grandmother have been affected. So it's of particular concern to me.

So any study that links eating habits to Alzheimer, as Sheldon says, bears watching.

There has been lot of talk about how bad saturated fat is as well as lots of debate here on the validity of that assumption, but I have yet to see a study that says it's GOOD for you.

For my part i've decided to switch from butter to margarine (the good monosaturated, non-hydrogenated kind of course).

I am going to attempt as well to find a source of good grass-fed beef that contains a lot less saturated fat than the grain-fed kind. Eating large quantities of grain is not something that is natural to cattle, anymore than it is to us

Yar
Thu, Feb-20-03, 21:22
I agree with Sheldon besides "what else were they eating:

Who funded the study?

Who went outside to absorb vitamin D?

Who ate Soy products?

What Meds were they taking?

What about polluted areas?

Where did some of these people originaly work?

Why wasn't alzhiemers in epidemic proportions in the early 1900 or earlier, regardless of the average age of death being less than today, there were still millions of people in the world that were 65 and older ?

There are to many variables to give this any credence whatsoever.

Excerpt, address below.
As well as adopting the above recommendations to improve the brain and thus our memory, there are certain things you should avoid. The first thing to avoid is heavy consumption of alcohol as the brain's deterioration is well documented in alcoholics. Avoid contact with aluminum and lead products such as those found in paints and aluminum cook ware. Although the cause of Alzheimer's is not known, an unusually high level of aluminum is found in the brains of Alzheimer's patients. Low blood sugar levels found in hypoglycemia cause starvatin of the brain, which requires large amounts of energy derived from glucose to work at its optimum level, this glucose starvation leads to decreased brain function. Additionally, use of barbiturates and psychotrophic drugs cause brain deterioration. People suffering from either Diabetes Mellitus or Hypothyroidism should also take extra precautions to prevent deterioration of memory.

http://www.sangsters.com/nlm/alzheimers.shtml

Yar

Angeline
Fri, Feb-21-03, 07:40
By claiming a study is not credible because it didn't account for some vague elements, you could dismiss any study, including the ones favorable to low-carb. You might as well say studies based on reported foods are plain useless and do away with them.

I personally intend to keep an open mind.

Sheldon
Fri, Feb-21-03, 09:05
Originally posted by Angeline
I personally intend to keep an open mind.

As we all should. We cannot rule out, a priori, the results from this study. Who knows?

But I would point out that self-reporting about diet is known to be full of potential problems.

Sheldon

Yar
Fri, Feb-21-03, 16:04
Maybe the butter spreaders enjoyed the taste of butter so much, that they ate more bread.LOL

Yar