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KDavis
Tue, Nov-12-02, 11:19
This Wednesday evening, Nov. 13, the Donahue Show on MSNBC will be on low fat vs. low carb diets. The taping has been done and the three folks representing actual LC'ers say they feel it will be a balanced presentation.
I plan to tune it. Hope to find some lively disucssion afterwards!
Karla
lkonzelman
Tue, Nov-12-02, 11:26
Thanks for the heads up - I will try to catch it too.
doreen T
Tue, Nov-12-02, 11:30
I just received this newsletter about it, from LowCarbEating.com:*********URGENT*************
I apologize for sending a second newsletter this month, and so close to the other one, too! But I had to share this news with you:
Kim Debus (our moderator "Emelia"), Cassandra Thor (a member who goes under the screen name of "Luv67Fire") and myself "LCandrea" will be featured on the DONAHUE show on Wednesday, November 13th at 8PM eastern and again at 11PM eastern.
The show is titled "Which Diets are Dangerous" and (once again) pits Dean Ornish's low fat vegetarian diet against the Atkins diet.
However, I think that the show is pretty balanced, and the Dr. from the Atkins Center did a great job in mentioning the studies from prestigious universities supporting the low carb way of eating.
The three of us got to tell an extremely shortened version of our stories, and make a few comments.
I hope that if you get to see it, you feel we did low carb proud!!!
Again, I apologize for the second newsletter.
I thought that you might want to know and have a chance to make plans to either watch or tape the show.
Thanks for all your support!
LCandrea
webmaster and founder
www.LowCarbEating.com
Victoria2u
Tue, Nov-12-02, 14:41
:wave:
Yes! It's happend!!!
LowCarbing has hit Donahue. This Wed evening Donahue-MSNBC 8pm Eastern- will be interviewing several successful and educated low carbers. Also on the show will be Dr Ornish with his views.errr
The gals did a wonderful job explaining with confidence and clarity our WOE...
Let's support our LC Community and watch along with the world!
FYI-The announcement is found on the homepage of this site. Our friends (www.lowcarbeating.com)
Restfully submitted,
Victoria
agonycat
Tue, Nov-12-02, 14:51
Post moved to the media section.
doreen T
Tue, Nov-12-02, 14:54
Actually, it was posted earlier today in this Media forum, along with the newsletter announcement from LowCarbEating.com .
Check it out .. http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?threadid=70352
Doreen
Victoria2u
Tue, Nov-12-02, 14:57
Thank you gals!
Victoria2u
Tue, Nov-12-02, 15:00
Thank you gals!
Doreen I just tried to change my stats and cant. I cant get into profile. Please what do I do?
doreen T
Tue, Nov-12-02, 15:08
Hmm .. not sure what is the problem.
Did you click on the http://forum.lowcarber.org/images/top_profile.gif icon at the top right of the page? That should take you to your User Control panel. To change your stats, click on Edit Profile ... and go from there.
Let me know if you're still having trouble.
Doreen
DDMariana
Wed, Nov-13-02, 07:26
I'll be waiting for this to come on today...I want to see some REAL people talking about this WOE from experience!!
Can't wait.
:wave:
jus2muchme
Wed, Nov-13-02, 08:24
Can't wait to see and hear the show!! I'll be rushing home from work today to catch it!
:wave:
Victoria2u
Wed, Nov-13-02, 17:03
Less than one hour til Donahue is on!
-this should be one good show you all!
;) Am I excited or what? lol
Victoria2u
Thu, Nov-14-02, 01:11
In between the commercials -that was a good show!!
I think "The LC girls" were good.
They clearly told the world we eat lots of veggies, healthy protein choices-not just BACON AND EGGS .
One of them started to talk about sugar addictions/Insulin Resistance but ran out of time.
I'm going to send Donahue a note thanking him for the Program.
We were well represented... Good job girls!
Where you able to watch?
Any comments?
Sheldon
Thu, Nov-14-02, 06:19
I missed the first 20 minutes of the show, which apparently is when most of the pro-low-carb information was given. The rest seemed pretty unbalanced. It was shameful that Donohue had the mother and doctor of the teenager who died. It was a slander, because the death cannot be tied to a low-carb diet.
I also felt that the doctor representing Atkins backed away from his position as the show went on. It was disappointing.
I'm glad to hear the women on our side did a good job. Sorry I missed them.
Let's face it: TV talk shows are a rotten place for a serious discussion of anything. But this is what Americans take for serious discussion these days. It's a pity.
Sheldon
Cinderella
Thu, Nov-14-02, 07:21
Shoot..I missed it. :(
Maybe they will re-run it sometime.
ulua
Thu, Nov-14-02, 07:50
Ahem!
Let's face it: TV talk shows are a rotten place for a serious discussion of anything. But this is what Americans take for serious discussion these days. It's a pity.
Sheldon
I completely agree with your first sentence, but I take a little offence with the second one. I fear you are confusing the "Media face" of America with its inhabitants. While the daily output of American news and entertainment complex is often full of errors, misrepresentations and lies, Americans in private are more thoughtful and more capable of rational thought. Commercial media outlets are interested only in profit and any motivation to illuminate the truth is secondary. Non-commercial media like public radio and television are far more balanced in their news offerings.
I only ask that you do not confuse “Americans” with American media corporations, which in some cases are not even owned by Americans.
VarisSul
Thu, Nov-14-02, 08:49
I have to agree with the post prior to this one. I watched the entire show and was extremely disappointed with its content. It stated nothing of the health benefits of this wol and the poor story of the girl dying was a side-track. They did not discuss her diet as much as they discussed her symptoms. It should have been a show unto itself.
I email Phil. Can't wait to see if he responds.
Sheldon
Thu, Nov-14-02, 09:20
Originally posted by ulua
Non-commercial media like public radio and television are far more balanced in their news offerings.
I'm an American too. I didn't mean to offend. As to your claim about NPR and PBS: most people don't listen to them (too boring for them), and I disagree that they are more balanced than commercial radio and tv. They have their own built-in bias--toward their government sponsors, for example.
Sheldon
tamarian
Thu, Nov-14-02, 19:29
I saw the whole show and I'm really disappointed :( Here was Dr. Ornish, with his malnourished features having the audacity to state he have read hundreds or studies showing the dangers of low-carb diets, and no one asked him for a single study or refernce to the such! ..........
True, the host was fair and balanced, but no one of the other side's guests was able to call Ornish's bluff to cite any of these so called studies he claims to have found. I'm not sure if the Atkins rep. was qualified, all he was able to say was "Duke" and a few other univesitiy names, but with no content or elaboration! :mad: Atkins could have done a lot better, coming himself or by sending someone who is aware of some of the research on low-carb, and the low-fat myth.
I could name a few of our none MD members who could have wiped the floor with Ornish, and shown him as the true clown he is!
Sorry, but the strength of the LC argument was not represented. Yes, a few LC followers showed their remarkable success, but so did the vegans! All that was left, was Ornish's unchallanged claims of the dangers of low-carb diets and no one was able to stand up to his bogus claim.
Wa'il
lkonzelman
Fri, Nov-15-02, 07:14
I saw some of it and i'm sorry but my personal dislike of Phil Donahue really clouded my judgement and I had to turn it off.
Sheldon
Fri, Nov-15-02, 07:21
Originally posted by tamarian
I'm not sure if the Atkins rep. was qualified, all he was able to say was "Duke" and a few other univesitiy names, but with no content or elaboration! :mad: Atkins could have done a lot better, coming himself or by sending someone who is aware of some of the research on low-carb, and the low-fat myth.
I agree totally. He was pathetically weak.
Sheldon
mrfreddy
Fri, Nov-15-02, 11:37
Originally posted by Sheldon
I agree totally. He was pathetically weak.
Sheldon
yeah, but you gotta admit, he LOOKED a lot better than pasty faced Ornish.
I also have never cared for Donahue's overblown style, and I agree that his trotting out the poor mother of the girl who died was beyond shameless.
Sheldon
Fri, Nov-15-02, 11:55
Originally posted by mrfreddy
yeah, but you gotta admit, he LOOKED a lot better than pasty faced Ornish.
Indeed!
Sheldon
Victoria2u
Sat, Nov-16-02, 13:38
Hello everyone~
Interesting comments! Transcript of the show (http://www.msnbc.com/news/835176.asp)
I've have written the handsome Mr. Phil Donahue & asked for a follow-up show.
OK, so I begged? So what?
;)
I hope the LC Community gets time someday to actually
EXPLAIN THE FACTS about low carbing without interruptions & given a little more time to do it in.
I'm sure, along w/others, that day will come, & that people who are further along in their weight loss & much more knowledgeable than others will be around to do it!
:wave: Donahue makes 66 look good!
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