Basic Tofu Questions

[Brojack77@]

The ingredients list water, organic soy beans, and two
preservatives.

So why do over 40% of calories come from fat? Is soy a bean,
like any other very low-fat bean, or more like a peanut?

Please note that there are also soy "hot dogs" and "lunch
meats" that are fat-free.

Thanks, Jack

[Sandy]

On 30 Oct 2002 04:07:08 -0800, jackweso@email.msn.com
(brojack77@my-deja.com) wrote:

>The ingredients list water, organic soy beans, and two
>preservatives.
>
>So why do over 40% of calories come from fat? Is soy a bean,
>like any other very low-fat bean, or more like a peanut?
>
>Please note that there are also soy "hot dogs" and "lunch
>meats" that are fat-free.
>
>Thanks, Jack

Dry soy beans are ~18% fat. Multiply this by about two and a
half, and you will get the percentage of calories from the
fat. Around 40%, No?

Sandy

[Ada]

Hmmmm.... Last I knew, most of the oil on supermarket shelves
comes from soy and the hotdogs you mentioned are made from the
leftover of the seed after oil/soy milk are extracted. By the
way, you can also buy defatted peanut leftover. A Japanese
defatted tofu-like paste is called okara but I am not sure if
or where you can get it in the US. For more info about various
soy products go to http://www.foodsubs.com/Soyprod.html ada

> So why do over 40% of calories come from fat? Is soy a bean,
> like any other very low-fat bean, or more like a peanut?
>
> Please note that there are also soy "hot dogs" and "lunch
> meats" that are fat-free.
>
> Thanks, Jack

[Shelley Wa]

in article 7cebf3d2.0210300407.7c70122e@posting.google.com,
brojack77@my-deja.com at jackweso@email.msn.com wrote on
30/10/02 12:07 pm:

> The ingredients list water, organic soy beans, and two
> preservatives.
>
> So why do over 40% of calories come from fat? Is soy a bean,
> like any other very low-fat bean, or more like a peanut?

Beans are not as lowfat as is commonly believed. The way
things are commonly labeled giving the fat content per weight
makes them seem that way because they have a lot more fiber
and water than meats do, and soy is relatively high among
beans. You might also be surprised to hear that per/protein
content, chickpeas are higher in fat than chicken breast. I
was surprised when I figured this out, because I had always
thought vegetarian sources of protein were much much lower in
fat that any animal source. Beans are still relatively low in
fat compared to meats. You can get your protein with less fat
by eating soy than you can by eating ground beef, but the
difference is nowhere near as dramatic labeling by weight
would lead you to believe.

> Please note that there are also soy "hot dogs" and "lunch
> meats" that are fat-free.

They are probably made with defatted soy or soy protein
isolate. Sort of like trimming the fat from meat, but a bit
more technical.

[Louise Bre]

ada <ben_nur@hotmail.com> wrote:

> A Japanese defatted tofu-like paste is called okara ....

I was not aware that okara was "de-fatted" in any way. It's
simply the solids left over after soy "milk" is strained
before it is turned into tofu.

> ...but I am not sure if or where you can get it in the US.

Anywhere that makes tofu will have it as a by-product.

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[Brojack77@]

So I guess the answer is that soy is like a high-fat peanut,
rather than a very low-fat kidney bean,lima bean, etc.

Therefore, a POX on soy! Begone!

Jack

ben_nur@hotmail.com (ada) wrote in message
news:<37621b2e.0210302342.7169b284@posting.google.com>...
> Hmmmm.... Last I knew, most of the oil on supermarket
> shelves comes from soy and the hotdogs you mentioned are
> made from the leftover of the seed after oil/soy milk are
> extracted. By the way, you can also buy defatted peanut
> leftover. A Japanese defatted tofu-like paste is called
> okara but I am not sure if or where you can get it in the
> US. For more info about various soy products go to
> http://www.foodsubs.com/Soyprod.html ada
>
>
> > So why do over 40% of calories come from fat? Is soy a
> > bean, like any other very low-fat bean, or more like a
> > peanut?
> >
> > Please note that there are also soy "hot dogs" and "lunch
> > meats" that are fat-free.
> >
> > Thanks, Jack

[Sandy]

On 31 Oct 2002 09:06:37 -0800, jackweso@email.msn.com
(brojack77@my-deja.com) wrote:

>So I guess the answer is that soy is like a high-fat peanut,
>rather than a very low-fat kidney bean,lima bean, etc.
>
>Therefore, a POX on soy! Begone!
>
>Jack

Peanuts have about 70% of their calories from fat. Almonds are
even worse.

Sandy

[Jim Chinni]

Sandy <null@null.null> wrote in part:

>Peanuts have about 70% of their calories from fat. Almonds
>are even worse.

By that logic, olive oil is poison.
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA

[Eric Bohlm]

Jim Chinnis <jchinnis@SPAMalum.mit.edu> wrote in
news:b7s3su034kdspnqtug0ra1423kc8h99qpp@4ax.com:

> Sandy <null@null.null> wrote in part:
>
>>Peanuts have about 70% of their calories from fat. Almonds
>>are even worse.
>
> By that logic, olive oil is poison.

Yeah, it's the fallacy of division: trying to take a
recommendation for what percentage of your total daily
calories should come from fat and screening individual
foodstuffs against it. That's only valid if your daily diet
consists of nothing but a single food. Peanuts and almonds
don't account for a very large percentage of most people's
daily caloric intake.

[Sandy]

On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 03:12:37 GMT, Jim Chinnis
<jchinnis@SPAMalum.mit.edu> wrote:

>Sandy <null@null.null> wrote in part:
>
>>Peanuts have about 70% of their calories from fat. Almonds
>>are even worse.
>
>By that logic, olive oil is poison.

Well yes. Everything is, in excess.

Why are you using a refined oil? Why not eat a few olives?

Sandy