Flax seed grinder - which?

[Klaus Alex]

Hi,

I've decided to buy an electric flax seed grinder, can you
recommend a good make?

I was looking at the Salton "Nutritionist FX5 Daily Dose Flax
Seed Mill", that I can conveniently get from Amazon for a
price of $25: <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/de-
tail/-/kitchen/B00004R93Y/>.

But then I came across Dakota Flax who sell a starter kit
that includes
1.5 lbs flax seeds and an electric grinder (noname?), also for
$25: <http://www.dakotaflax.com/products.html>.

Does anyone here know these grinders? Or do you know a
better choice?

Cheers,

// Klaus

--
M42 · 173 cm · 5'8"
2./ 76.3/ 72.0 kg /JOIN #lowcarb @ irc.starchat.net
2.1/1./158.5 lbs 9th August 2002

[Jamie]

Klaus Alexander Seistrup <jakabov119@magnetic-ink.dk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've decided to buy an electric flax seed grinder, can you
> recommend a good make?

I think you can probably find a little electic coffee grinder
for around $15 in a local department store, rather than paying
$25 plus shipping for these. I don't think a pound and a half
of flax seed sweetens the other deal much, especially with the
shipping charge probably bringing it to around $30. Flax seed
is not expensive.

> I was looking at the Salton "Nutritionist FX5 Daily Dose
> Flax Seed Mill", that I can conveniently get from Amazon for
> a price of $25: <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/store-
> s/detail/-/kitchen/B00004R93Y/>.
>
> But then I came across Dakota Flax who sell a starter kit
> that includes
> 1.5 lbs flax seeds and an electric grinder (noname?), also
> for $25: <http://www.dakotaflax.com/products.html>.

--
jamie (jamiemck@newsguy.com)

"There's a seeker born every minute."

[Annette]

I just use a cheap electric coffee grinder from my local
discount superstore. I think it cost me $10 a few years ago.

I'm not sure what stores you have over there, but I'm sure
you've got one something like Target or Walmart?

"Klaus Alexander Seistrup" <jakabov119@magnetic-ink.dk> wrote
in message news:jakabov+03f49398-3e27-4513-9063-68d8b2bb2226@-
news.szn.dk...
> Hi,
>
> I've decided to buy an electric flax seed grinder, can you
> recommend a good make?
>
> I was looking at the Salton "Nutritionist FX5 Daily Dose
> Flax Seed Mill", that I can conveniently get from Amazon for
> a price of $25:
>
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/kitchen-
/B00004R93Y/>.
>
> But then I came across Dakota Flax who sell a starter kit
> that includes
> 1.5 lbs flax seeds and an electric grinder (noname?), also
> for $25: <http://www.dakotaflax.com/products.html>.
>
> Does anyone here know these grinders? Or do you know a
> better choice?
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> // Klaus
>
> --
> M42 · 173 cm · 5'8"
> 81./ 76.3/ 72.0 kg /JOIN #lowcarb @ irc.starchat.net
> 178.5/168./158.5 lbs 9th August 2002

[Clare]

Or you could use any old coffee grinder. My blender came with
a coffee / nuts grinder that I'd never used until I did my
flaxmeal this morning!

(It's good that the Dakota one comes with flax seeds but
there's no picture of the actual grinder...)

Klaus Alexander Seistrup wrote:

~ Hi, ~ ~ I've decided to buy an electric flax seed grinder,
can you recommend ~ a good make? ~ ~ I was looking at the
Salton "Nutritionist FX5 Daily Dose Flax Seed ~ Mill", that I
can conveniently get from Amazon for a price of $25: ~ <http:-
//www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/kitchen/B0000-
4R93Y/>. ~ ~ But then I came across Dakota Flax who sell a
starter kit that includes ~ 1.5 lbs flax seeds and an electric
grinder (noname?), also for $25: ~
<http://www.dakotaflax.com/products.html>. ~ ~ Does anyone
here know these grinders? Or do you know a better choice? ~ ~
~ Cheers, ~ ~ // Klaus

[Beth]

I got mine at www.goldenflax.com with the starter kit. Its
just a Proctor Silex coffee grinder which you could buy at any
kitchen store. It doesn't do a whole lot at one time but its
fine for my use. Beth

"Klaus Alexander Seistrup" <jakabov119@magnetic-ink.dk> wrote
in message news:jakabov+03f49398-3e27-4513-9063-68d8b2bb2226@-
news.szn.dk...
> Hi,
>
> I've decided to buy an electric flax seed grinder, can you
> recommend a good make?
>
> I was looking at the Salton "Nutritionist FX5 Daily Dose
> Flax Seed Mill", that I can conveniently get from Amazon for
> a price of $25:
>
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/kitchen-
/B00004R93Y/>.
>
> But then I came across Dakota Flax who sell a starter kit
> that includes
> 1.5 lbs flax seeds and an electric grinder (noname?), also
> for $25: <http://www.dakotaflax.com/products.html>.
>
> Does anyone here know these grinders? Or do you know a
> better choice?
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> // Klaus
>
> --
> M42 · 173 cm · 5'8"
> 81./ 76.3/ 72.0 kg /JOIN #lowcarb @ irc.starchat.net
> 178.5/168./158.5 lbs 9th August 2002

[Klaus Alex]

Annette wrote:

> I just use a cheap electric coffee grinder from my local
> discount superstore. I think it cost me $10 a few years ago.

Yes, I have heard that some people use a coffee grinder with
success. However, the [somewhat inexpensive] coffee grinders
that I have seen here in Denmark only have one setting, and I
would like to be able to choose between coarse, medium and
fine flax meal. Also, a simple coffee grinder here will cost
me almost as much as the $25 flax seed mills I've seen on the
Internet, and then I might as well buy a mill that is made for
grinding oily seeds.

> I'm not sure what stores you have over there, but I'm sure
> you've got one something like Target or Walmart?

Yes, we do have something similar. But while I'll be able to
choose from a range of coffee grinders, I doubt that I can
find a flax mill around here.

Cheers,

// Klaus

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[Roger Zoul]

Until I read this I was about to suggest the $20 GE model
coffee grinder from Walmart. It have several speed settings,
not just 3.

Klaus Alexander Seistrup wrote:
:: Annette wrote:
::
::: I just use a cheap electric coffee grinder from my
::: local discount superstore. I think it cost me $10 a few
::: years ago.
::
:: Yes, I have heard that some people use a coffee grinder
:: with success. However, the [somewhat inexpensive] coffee
:: grinders that I have seen here in Denmark only have one
:: setting, and I would like to be able to choose between
:: coarse, medium and fine flax meal. Also, a simple coffee
:: grinder here will cost me almost as much as the $25 flax
:: seed mills I've seen on the Internet, and then I might as
:: well buy a mill that is made for grinding oily seeds.
::
::: I'm not sure what stores you have over there, but I'm sure
::: you've got one something like Target or Walmart?
::
:: Yes, we do have something similar. But while I'll be able
:: to choose from a range of coffee grinders, I doubt that I
:: can find a flax mill around here.
::
:: Cheers,
::
:: // Klaus
::
:: --
:: ><> vandag, môre, altyd saam

[Annette]

"Klaus Alexander Seistrup" <jakabov119@magnetic-ink.dk> wrote
in message news:jakabov+cd8b8067-ab15-4a41-9ca0-6347a1cdaa23@-
news.szn.dk...
> Annette wrote:
>
> Yes, I have heard that some people use a coffee grinder with
> success. However, the [somewhat inexpensive] coffee grinders
> that I have seen here in Denmark only have one setting, and
> I would like to be able to choose between coarse, medium and
> fine flax meal. Also, a simple coffee grinder here will cost
> me almost as much as the $25 flax seed mills I've seen on
> the Internet, and then I might as well buy a mill that is
> made for grinding oily seeds.

I hate to tell you, but the grinder they send with those
deals are usually coffee grinders with the price jacked up =)
If you are absolutely sure you want one with the word flax in
the name, get the Salton from amazon. Dakota sends out the
same coffee grinder I have. Keep in mind though, that the
Salton one is also a coffee grinder, just being marketed as a
flax mill!

-Annette

[Sheena]

"Annette" <annette.rogers@GO.AWAYSPAMMERmeaniegirl.com> wrote:

>If you are absolutely sure you want one with the word flax in
>the name, get the Salton from amazon. Dakota sends out the
>same coffee grinder I have. Keep in mind though, that the
>Salton one is also a coffee grinder, just being marketed as a
>flax mill!
>
>-Annette

You can get that grinder cheaper at cheaper at
salton-maxim.com. I have it in my Amazon wishlist with a note
to watch the price.

--
~Sheena~ -Low Carbing Since 8/18/02 -Off Meds, -24 lbs. -Last
Smoke 10/01/02

[Trina]

On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 15:54:33 +0000 (UTC), Klaus Alexander
Seistrup <jakabov119@magnetic-ink.dk> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I've decided to buy an electric flax seed grinder, can you
>recommend a good make?
>
>I was looking at the Salton "Nutritionist FX5 Daily Dose Flax
>Seed Mill", that I can conveniently get from Amazon for a
>price of $25: <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/d-
>etail/-/kitchen/B00004R93Y/>.
>
>But then I came across Dakota Flax who sell a starter kit
>that includes
>1.5 lbs flax seeds and an electric grinder (noname?), also
> for $25: <http://www.dakotaflax.com/products.html>.
>
>Does anyone here know these grinders? Or do you know a
>better choice?
>
>
>Cheers,
>
> // Klaus
What about a blender or coffee grinder? Is there a special way
to grind flax seeds? BTW.. your Jell-o is on it's way :)

Trina Why did Hannibal the Cannibal want to eat Bill Gates? He
was too rich :P *groan*

[Klaus Alex]

Trina wrote:

> Is there a special way to grind flax seeds?

The flax seed mill producers want me to believe that using a
coffe grinder will cause the flax meal to go rancid on the
spot, but that doesn't seem to happen at all in real life - at
least not with the coffee grinder that I bought today. The
flax meal it makes tastes much better than the flax meal I
bought at the local health store.

> BTW.. your Jell-o is on it's way :)

Thank you, Trina, you're such a sweetheart! :-)

// Klaus

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[Klaus Alex]

Beth wrote:

> I got mine at www.goldenflax.com with the starter kit. Its
> just a Proctor Silex coffee grinder which you could buy at
> any kitchen store.

My bubble burst. Hrmpf! Well, thanks, Beth. :-)

// Klaus

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[Klaus Alex]

Clare wrote:

> It's good that the Dakota one comes with flax seeds but
> there's no picture of the actual grinder...

It's a pity, innit? Well, I sent Dakota Flax an email and
asked about the make of the flax seed mill. We'll see what
they have to tell me.

// Klaus

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[Klaus Alex]

Roger Zoul wrote:

> Until I read this I was about to suggest the $20 GE model
> coffee grinder from Walmart. It have several speed settings,
> not just 3.

It seems the consensus in this group is to just use a coffee
grinder, so this is what I bought today. The cheapest I found
was priced at US $24, and the most expensive one was $80. I
decided to buy a Braun coffee grinder that cost $26.50, and it
does a splendid job although it has only one setting.

So far I have only ground ¼ cup seeds, and there were no
problems. So is it only marketing hype that wants me to
believe that using a coffee grinder will cause the seeds to
overheat and oxidize? The home ground flaxmeal had a much
better taste - and was more finely ground - than the flaxmeal
I bought at the local health store, and so unless I'm gonna
gain at lot from eating too much flax, please count me in on
the flax team. :-)

Thanks Roger, and thanks also to (in no particular order)
Jamie, Trina, Anette, Sheena, Beth and Claire, for your advice
- I', a happy flax eater now. :-)

(I'm still curious, though, because I believe someone here
actually uses a flax seed mill (could it be Dean?), and I'd
like to hear about the working of such a thing.)

// Klaus

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M42 · 173 cm · 5'8"
81./ 76.4/ 72.0 kg /JOIN #lowcarb @ irc.starchat.net
81.1/1.1/1.5 lbs 9th August 2002

[Klaus Alex]

Annette wrote:

> I hate to tell you, but the grinder they send with
> those deals are usually coffee grinders with the price
> jacked up =)

Oh my, isn't that naughty!? :-| Thanks for warning me!

// Klaus

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[Klaus Alex]

Sheena wrote:

> You can get that grinder cheaper at cheaper at
> salton-maxim.com.

The problem - at least for me - with Salton-Maxim is that they
use UPS, and shipping things from the U.S. to Denmark using
UPS is way to expensive. It would almost double the price (and
then, on top of that, the customs would add 25% in V.A.T. -
talk about suckage).

> I have it in my Amazon wishlist with a note to watch
> the price.

I decided to buy a simple coffee grinder from Braun, and it
works like a charm. However, I'm still keen on the Salton flax
mill, so I'll look for it if I go abroad one fine day.

Cheers,

// Klaus

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[Roger Zoul]

Klaus Alexander Seistrup wrote:
:: Trina wrote:
::
::: Is there a special way to grind flax seeds?
::
:: The flax seed mill producers want me to believe that using
:: a coffe grinder will cause the flax meal to go rancid on
:: the spot, but that doesn't seem to happen at all in real
:: life - at least not with the coffee grinder that I bought
:: today. The flax meal it makes tastes much better than the
:: flax meal I bought at the local health store.

I think that is total marketing BS....

[Klaus Alex]

Roger Zoul wrote:

>>> Is there a special way to grind flax seeds?
>>
>> The flax seed mill producers want me to believe that using
>> a coffe grinder will cause the flax meal to go rancid on
>> the spot, but [...]
>
> I think that is total marketing BS....

It probably is. However, the manual that came with my coffee
grinder says I should grind the coffee beans for a maximum of
30 seconds:

»It is recommended not to continue grinding for more
than 30 seconds. Longer operation does not result in a
finer grind but simply overheats the coffee resulting
in loss of aroma.«

Whether this overheating would oxidize the flax meal remains
uncertain, but *if* overheating causes the flax meal to go
rancid, wouldn't the same thing happen if we use flax meal
batter for deep frying?

Does anyone here know the temperature tolerance of flax meal
(rather, the oils)?

// Klaus

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[Trina]

I ground mine in the blender, about 8-10 cups at once, for
about 3 minutes (long enough to suck the whole ones down) It
turned out fine.. my advice for using the coffee grinder is to
give it a couple short bursts, look at it.. and give a couple
more if need be.

Trina On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 05:23:47 +0000 (UTC), Klaus
Alexander Seistrup <jakabov119@magnetic-ink.dk> wrote:

>Roger Zoul wrote:
>
>>>> Is there a special way to grind flax seeds?
>>>
>>> The flax seed mill producers want me to believe that using
>>> a coffe grinder will cause the flax meal to go rancid on
>>> the spot, but [...]
>>
>> I think that is total marketing BS....
>
>It probably is. However, the manual that came with my coffee
>grinder says I should grind the coffee beans for a maximum of
>30 seconds:
>
> »It is recommended not to continue grinding for more
> than 30 seconds. Longer operation does not result in a
> finer grind but simply overheats the coffee resulting
> in loss of aroma.«
>
>Whether this overheating would oxidize the flax meal remains
>uncertain, but *if* overheating causes the flax meal to go
>rancid, wouldn't the same thing happen if we use flax meal
>batter for deep frying?
>
>Does anyone here know the temperature tolerance of flax meal
>(rather, the oils)?
>
>
> // Klaus

[Reb]

> I ground mine in the blender, about 8-10 cups at once, for
> about 3 minutes (long enough to suck the whole ones down) It
> turned out fine.. my advice for using the coffee grinder is
> to give it a couple short bursts, look at it.. and give a
> couple more if need be.

I was kind of hesitant to buy a coffee grinder, but when I saw
that my food processor was doing NOTHING to the seeds, I knew
I'd have to get one. I can't remember who first recommended
the GE One-Touch at Wal-Mart, but it was an excellent
suggestion. You don't have to pulse it or poke the seeds down
or anything. You just push the button and let it go and it
stops automatically when it's done. There's no way it's
overheating the oils. It grinds the whole seeds into a powder
in just *seconds*. It's absolutely amazing.

It only has a capacity of a couple of cups at a time, but it
grinds so quickly, you could do multiple batches in only a
minute or two. But since the oil is supposed to be so
delicate, I only do one batch at a time. The One-Touch even
comes with a little container you can store the batch in.

It washes up easily, it's small, and its cord stores
internally with a few twists of its base. Very rarely have I
bought a gadget which I'm so thoroughly satisfied with.

For anyone who wants to consume flax on a regular basis, I
*highly* recommend this grinder if it is available to you.

Reb

[Evelyn Ruu]

"Trina" <miladyO_o@connections.yk.ca> wrote in message
news:s9anqu40rk8rha85sgb6o8u4at352229tf@4ax.com...
> I ground mine in the blender, about 8-10 cups at once, for
> about 3 minutes (long enough to suck the whole ones down) It
> turned out fine.. my advice for using the coffee grinder is
> to give it a couple short bursts, look at it.. and give a
> couple more if need be.
>

Dear Trina,

That is what I did. I gave it several short bursts over
and over till it looked like it wasn't going to break down
any further.

Regards, Evelyn

[Ewewho]

Klaus, I purchased the flax seed meal grinder that Dean
directed me to. It has a dial to go from course to fine grind.
Was I surprised when I opened it. It is identical in every way
to the Salton coffee bean grinder I already had! I checked the
bottom it and sure enough, it is manufactured by Salton. Its
model number is FX5 (maybe stands for flax?) and the model
number on the coffee bean grinder is CM-4 (coffee meal??? LOL)
I would highly recommend this grinder to anyone. I love the
fact that the meal (or coffee) falls into a plastic container
that has measurements on the sides. I'm glad you found one for
a decent price and yes, the seeds seem to be much fresher
tasting when ground at home.

--
EweWho F 5"4" 52
269/248/145 Restarted Atkins 07/19/02

"Klaus Alexander Seistrup" <jakabov119@magnetic-ink.dk> wrote
in message news:jakabov+435364e0-f185-406d-9700-4686bdfe0272@-
news.szn.dk...
> Roger Zoul wrote:
>
> (I'm still curious, though, because I believe someone here
> actually uses a flax seed mill (could it be Dean?), and I'd
> like to hear about the working of such a thing.)
>
>
> // Klaus
>
> --
> M42 · 173 cm · 5'8"
> 81./ 76.4/ 72.0 kg /JOIN #lowcarb @ irc.starchat.net
> 178.5/168.5/158.5 lbs 9th August 2002

[Klaus Alex]

EweWho wrote:

> I purchased the flax seed meal grinder that Dean directed me
> to. It has a dial to go from course to fine grind. Was I
> surprised when I opened it. It is identical in every way to
> the Salton coffee bean grinder I already had!

LOL, what a surprise! :-) I wonder what the difference, if
any, between the two are - except for the model number. E.g.,
could the grinding mechanism be smaller for the flaxseed mill
to accommodate for the smaller seeds? Or is it a pure
marketing gimmick?

> I would highly recommend this grinder to anyone. I love the
> fact that the meal (or coffee) falls into a plastic
> container that has measurements on the sides.

That sounds very practical, yes. I'll be on the lookout for
this model next time I'm abroad.

Thanks for your feed-back, EweWho.

// Klaus

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[Rene' Hjor]

[Klaus Alexander Seistrup | Wed, 16 Oct 2002 16:52:08
+0000 (UTC)]

>That sounds very practical, yes. I'll be on the lookout for
>this model next time I'm abroad.

Is that really what you need? A small cheap coffee grinder
(kr. 99) or for larger portions, a small foodprocessor (kr.
399) can do the job quite well...

Best regards, Rene' (Denmark) www.lowcarb.dk &
www.rene.hjorth.com
310/244/240 - 6'6" male Atkins 18-may-01, 38 yrs

[Klaus Alex]

René Hjorth skrev:

>> That sounds very practical, yes. I'll be on the lookout for
>> this model next time I'm abroad.
>
> Is that really what you need?

Yes, I like the functionality of the Salton mill.

> A small cheap coffee grinder (kr. 99) or for larger
> portions, a small foodprocessor (kr. 399) can do the job
> quite well...

I haven't been able to find a coffee grinder at DKK 100, and I
weren't prepared to wait until I could find one on offer, so
the other day I bought a Braun coffee grinder for DKK 200. Is
does the job very well, but I like the Salton model because
the flax meal ends up in a separate tray.

// Klaus

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[Rene' Hjor]

[Klaus Alexander Seistrup | Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:18:14
+0000 (UTC)]

>> Is that really what you need?
>Yes, I like the functionality of the Salton mill.

Thats a gadget new to me, what is the main purpose compared
with a foodprocessor or coffee grinder?

>Is does the job very well, but I like the Salton model
>because the flax meal ends up in a separate tray.

Hmmm, I don't get it?

Best regards, Rene' (Denmark) www.lowcarb.dk &
www.rene.hjorth.com
310/244/240 - 6'6" male Atkins 18-may-01, 38 yrs

[Rene' Hjor]

[Klaus Alexander Seistrup | Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:29:45
+0000 (UTC)]

>> Hmmm, I don't get it?
>And now?

Yep, but since I don't really eat flax (except in my dark rye
bread), it's probably not a very cool gadget for me :)

Have I missed something important by not eating (hot)
flax meals?

Best regards, Rene' (Denmark) www.lowcarb.dk &
www.rene.hjorth.com
310/244/240 - 6'6" male Atkins 18-may-01, 38 yrs

[Klaus Alex]

René Hjorth skrev:

>> Yes, I like the functionality of the Salton mill.
>
> Thats a gadget new to me, what is the main purpose compared
> with a foodprocessor or coffee grinder?

The main purpose of a flax seed mill is to grind flax seed.
;-)

Take a look at the thing (pic arbitrarily chosen from a Google
search): <http://www.kitchenemporium.com/cgi-bin/kitchen/prod-
/18slfx5.html>.

You add flax seeds to the container on top of the machine.
The seeds are crushed and end up in the lower container.
Cool, innit?

> Hmmm, I don't get it?

And now?

// Klaus

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[Revek]

"Rene' Hjorth" <rhjorth@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:ij5uqus9ivasirk9586q7q5vrv8hmfdvkj@4ax.com...
> [Klaus Alexander Seistrup | Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:29:45
> +0000 (UTC)]
>
> >> Hmmm, I don't get it?
> >And now?
>
> Yep, but since I don't really eat flax (except in my
> dark rye
bread),
> it's probably not a very cool gadget for me :)
>
> Have I missed something important by not eating (hot)
> flax meals?

Do you take flax oil? Then, no, you aren't missing anything.
The only other thing flax offers is fiber-- besides, of
course, being an all around good lowcarb food that replaces
hot cereal *and* flour breading.
--
revek Is no rat! Is rare siberian hamster!

[Klaus Alex]

René Hjorth wrote:

> Have I missed something important by not eating (hot)
> flax meals?

Getting your valuable omega-3 fatty acids (in particular
alpha-linolenic acid) from flax is way cheaper than getting
it from, say, smoked salmon. Also, flax has a very high
fiber count.

// Klaus

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