290 + pounds - Is swimming good? Suggestions please

[Mary Degal]

Hello there!

My brother is 292 pounds - 6ft 34 yrs age. He is getting
aches in his Knee joints.

The most he walks is from parked car to
office/apartment/grocery store.

He has started swimming of late in a local Y (ok its just
since last friday).

We were checking "swimming calories burning" in google and
found that a 180 Pound man burns 11.6 calories per minute
of swimming.

1. How much does a 290 pound man burn in swimming? My
brother's weight catregory which should have been
logically listed is unfortunately not. (we calculated
that it may be around 18.5 cals/min slow crawl swimming
- as it is 11.6 cals/min for a 180 pound man)

2. The Y pool is 25 mtrs in length. What is slow crawl
swim speed?

3. He does 25 mtrs and takes break or few minutes and
return back. He aims very low, of doing some 150 mtrs or
200 mtrs in a 45 min period.

Is it any good? Or should he over stretch? I say low aim
is a crime.

His logic is, I will enjoy and slowly improve my ability
rather than pushing too much and losing interest.

He basically wants to make swimming into fun and
relaxing than an act of exercise and regimen to
lose weight.

I am not sure whether his approach is correct or not.

Since he listens to me occasionally, I want to help him
with different facts.

4. One interesting thing that we found was slow crawl
swimming burns more calories than fast crawl. Wonder why?

thanx for all those who can guide.

-Mary

[Jeffery Ju]

Jour brother is, in my opinio, on the right track. I dont
know the numbers but they dont matter too much. Swimming is
ideal for overweight people. He is right to slowly get into
it, but there is one area in which he must show some
discipline, an that is consistency. Make sure he goes
regularly, an doesnt skip sessions. Regardless of his pace, 3
- 1 hour swims a week over time will benefit him
immeasurably, so stop measurin! ;) Jeffery

PS an here is a tip as well: since swimming will probably tax
his arms an shoulders more than his legs, he can
alternately swim laps, then brace himself in the corner of
the pool an just do different types of leg kicks. When his
legs get tired an his arms rest, back to laps and so on...

[Peter Webb]

I disagree with most of the posts above.

I do not believe that swimming 25 metres, resting for a few
minutes, then swimming another 25m so that he is doing 150
metres in 45 minutes will do him any real good in a cardio
sense, and the calories burnt will be so low that it won't be
noticable. As a result, he will see no gains for his effort
and lose motivation.

If he pushed himself just a little - for example, every time
he sees how many lengths he can do in his 45 minutes and tries
to do a personal best - he would start seeing performance
gains (which are very quick to get from such a low base) which
would motivate him until he sees fitness gains (quite quick)
and then weight loss (will take some time).

Forget about calculating calories burnt through him swimming.
On his current program, most calories would be expended
battling hypothermia (keeping warm) rather than through
mechanical effort.

The "slow crawl burns more calories than fast crawl" sounds
like a version of the "fat burning zone" myth. The best thing
for your friend is to elevate his pulse rate for as long as he
can. This means he is burning more calories. It also means he
will be getting fitter, which will enable him to swim faster,
which means he will burn more calories ...

Peter Webb

"Mary Degallo" <marydegallo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f0bf00c.0207290622.a15e7c@posting.google.com...
> Hello there!
>
>
> My brother is 292 pounds - 6ft 34 yrs age. He is getting
> aches in his Knee joints.
>
> The most he walks is from parked car to
> office/apartment/grocery store.
>
> He has started swimming of late in a local Y (ok its just
> since last
friday).
>
> We were checking "swimming calories burning" in google
> and found that a 180 Pound man burns 11.6 calories per
> minute of swimming.
>
> 1. How much does a 290 pound man burn in swimming? My
> brother's weight catregory which should have been
> logically
listed is
> unfortunately not. (we calculated that it may be
> around 18.5
cals/min
> slow crawl swimming - as it is 11.6 cals/min for a 180
> pound man)
>
> 2. The Y pool is 25 mtrs in length. What is slow crawl
> swim speed?
>
> 3. He does 25 mtrs and takes break or few minutes and
> return back. He aims very low, of doing some 150 mtrs
> or 200 mtrs in a 45 min
period.
>
> Is it any good? Or should he over stretch? I say low
> aim is a crime.
>
> His logic is, I will enjoy and slowly improve my
> ability rather than pushing too much and losing
> interest.
>
> He basically wants to make swimming into fun and
> relaxing than an
act
> of exercise and regimen to lose weight.
>
> I am not sure whether his approach is correct or not.
>
> Since he listens to me occasionally, I want to help him
> with different
facts.
>
>
> 4. One interesting thing that we found was slow crawl
> swimming burns
more
> calories than fast crawl. Wonder why?
>
> thanx for all those who can guide.
>
> -Mary

[That T Wom]

"Jeffery Julian DeMarco" <JefferyJulianDeMarco@yahoo.com>
wrote in message
news:7Xc19.167517$XH.3746435@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> Jour brother is, in my opinio, on the right track. I dont
> know the numbers but they dont matter too much. Swimming is
> ideal for overweight people. He is right to slowly get into
> it, but there is one area in which he must
show
> some discipline, an that is consistency. Make sure he goes
> regularly, an doesnt skip sessions. Regardless of his pace,
> 3 - 1 hour swims a week over time will benefit him
> immeasurably, so stop measurin! ;) Jeffery
>
> PS an here is a tip as well: since swimming will probably
> tax his arms an shoulders more than his legs, he can
> alternately swim laps, then brace himself in the corner
> of the pool an just do different types of leg kicks. When
> his legs get tired an his arms rest, back to laps and so
> on...
>

Your posts look like they belong on rec.pets.cats.community.
The joke of writing with an accent is wearing thin! Your
advice may be OK in this case but remember that how you
communicate is 95% of the message. Bad spelling, bad grammar
signals that you're not educated enough to know what the hell
you're trying to talk about!

T

[Jeffery Ju]

"Peter Webb" <pwebb@REMOVESPAMopticon-aust.com.au> wrote in
message news:3d45df71$0$822

On his current
> program, most calories would be expended battling
> hypothermia (keeping
warm)
> rather than through mechanical effort.

Wether ju know it or not, ju are talkin about thermogenesis,
gwere the body burns fat to keep itself warm. Is actiually a
very good way to burn fat. On a hot day, ju can burn more fat
riding around in a cold car than ju can out joggin in the
heat. Befor ju start flamin me, I said burn more fat, not
necessarily expend more enerjy. JJM

[Michael Ro]

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:52:21 -0500, "That T Woman"
<nospamatAll@nts-online.net> wrote:

| Bad spelling, bad grammar signals that you're not
|educated enough to know what the hell you're trying to
talk about!

Do you get your expertise on literary style from, dare I call
out your favorite mag, GLAMOUR?

[Jeffery Ju]

Gwats jour point? Jeffery

"That T Woman" <nospamatAll@nts-online.net> wrote in message
news:ukb3mhemkscv69@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Jeffery Julian DeMarco" <JefferyJulianDeMarco@yahoo.com>
> wrote in message
> news:7Xc19.167517$XH.3746435@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> > Jour brother is, in my opinio, on the right track. I dont
> > know the
numbers
> > but they dont matter too much. Swimming is ideal for
> > overweight people.
He
> > is right to slowly get into it, but there is one area in
> > which he must
> show
> > some discipline, an that is consistency. Make sure he goes
> > regularly, an doesnt skip sessions. Regardless of his
> > pace, 3 - 1 hour swims a week
over
> > time will benefit him immeasurably, so stop measurin! ;)
> > Jeffery
> >
> > PS an here is a tip as well: since swimming will probably
> > tax his arms
an
> > shoulders more than his legs, he can alternately swim
> > laps, then brace himself in the corner of the pool an just
> > do different types of leg
kicks.
> > When his legs get tired an his arms rest, back to laps and
> > so on...
> >
>
> Your posts look like they belong on rec.pets.cats.community.
> The joke of writing with an accent is wearing thin! Your
> advice may be OK in this case but remember that how you
> communicate
is
> 95% of the message. Bad spelling, bad grammar signals that
> you're not educated enough to know what the hell you're
> trying to talk about!
>
> T
>
>

[That T Wom]

Sorry, this is like trying to teach a pig to sing. I'm
wasting my time.

T

"Jeffery Julian DeMarco" <JefferyJulianDeMarco@yahoo.com>
wrote in message
news:zah19.167620$XH.3772402@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> Gwats jour point? Jeffery
>
>
> "That T Woman" <nospamatAll@nts-online.net> wrote in message
> news:ukb3mhemkscv69@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Jeffery Julian DeMarco" <JefferyJulianDeMarco@yahoo.com>
> > wrote in
message
> > news:7Xc19.167517$XH.3746435@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> > > Jour brother is, in my opinio, on the right track. I
> > > dont know the
> numbers
> > > but they dont matter too much. Swimming is ideal for
> > > overweight
people.
> He
> > > is right to slowly get into it, but there is one area in
> > > which he must
> > show
> > > some discipline, an that is consistency. Make sure he
> > > goes regularly,
an
> > > doesnt skip sessions. Regardless of his pace, 3 - 1 hour
> > > swims a week
> over
> > > time will benefit him immeasurably, so stop measurin! ;)
> > > Jeffery
> > >
> > > PS an here is a tip as well: since swimming will
> > > probably tax his arms
> an
> > > shoulders more than his legs, he can alternately swim
> > > laps, then brace himself in the corner of the pool an
> > > just do different types of leg
> kicks.
> > > When his legs get tired an his arms rest, back to laps
> > > and so on...
> > >
> >
> > Your posts look like they belong on
> > rec.pets.cats.community. The joke
of
> > writing with an accent is wearing thin! Your advice may be
> > OK in this case but remember that how you communicate
> is
> > 95% of the message. Bad spelling, bad grammar signals that
> > you're not educated enough to know what the hell you're
> > trying to talk about!
> >
> > T
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

[Jeffery Ju]

"That T Woman" <nospamatAll@nts-online.net> wrote in message
news:ukbm61oi8b1aff@corp.supernews.com...
> Sorry, this is like trying to teach a pig to sing. I'm
> wasting my time.

Jes but gwat is jour time conpared to mine? Not much, let me
tell ju I make a lotta money, better than most ace spellers
like jourself. Ju probably ejoy the national enquirer, because
they spell really great... JJM

[Isiafs5]

Any exercise is good. I have read conflicting reports of
swimming for weight loss. I would suggest expanding to other
activities where not injured such as biking, rowing, etc.

By the way, having been way overweight myself, I would like to
add that uninformed dieting was my biggest problem. I would
even fast once or twice a week and this was absolutely the
worst thing since I was losing more muscle than fat.

Sling Skate

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