Best breakfast for exam day

[Alan1s]

Hello everyone,

I'm scheduled for a morning examination in a few days. I would
like some ideas for a breakfast that:

- has very little water to alow me to sit for 4 hours.
- would promote good concentration for the 4 hours

Bread has very little water, but the carohydrates may not give
enough consistant energy for 4 hours.

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

Alan

[Crazy Diam]

Alan,

Your brain can run on only one thing, carbohydrates. You're
best bet is to eat a serving of oatmeal or some type of
natural whole grain cereal, a serving is usually 1/2 cup
with water or milk. You might also want to add some protein
and fat, like peanut butter. This will slow your digestion
so your body doesn't process the carbos so quickly. You'll
have a more sustained energy level with the addition of some
protein and fat.

Good luck

alan1s@aol.com (ALAN1S) wrote in message
news:<20020811094434.13407.00002964@mb-fl.aol.com>...
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm scheduled for a morning examination in a few days. I
> would like some ideas for a breakfast that:
>
> - has very little water to alow me to sit for 4 hours.
> - would promote good concentration for the 4 hours
>
> Bread has very little water, but the carohydrates may not
> give enough consistant energy for 4 hours.
>
> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>
> Alan

[John]

Are you allowed to bring food to the exam? That would allow
for a better solution.

ALAN1S wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm scheduled for a morning examination in a few days. I
> would like some ideas for a breakfast that:
>
> - has very little water to alow me to sit for 4 hours.
> - would promote good concentration for the 4 hours
>
> Bread has very little water, but the carohydrates may not
> give enough consistant energy for 4 hours.
>
> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>
> Alan

[Paul Chefu]

On 11 Aug 2002 19:10:35 -0700, crazydiamond21@yahoo.com (Crazy
Diamond) wrote:

> Your brain can run on only one thing, carbohydrates.

That's just not correct. Your brain can run on ketones just
fine. Look it up.

> You're best bet is to eat a serving of oatmeal or some type
> of natural whole grain cereal, a serving is usually 1/2 cup
> with water or milk. You might also want to add some protein
> and fat, like peanut butter. This will slow your digestion
> so your body doesn't process the carbos so quickly. You'll
> have a more sustained energy level with the addition of
> some protein and fat.
>
>Good luck
>
>alan1s@aol.com (ALAN1S) wrote in message
>news:<20020811094434.13407.00002964@mb-fl.aol.com>...
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I'm scheduled for a morning examination in a few days. I
>> would like some ideas for a breakfast that:
>>
>> - has very little water to alow me to sit for 4 hours.
>> - would promote good concentration for the 4 hours
>>
>> Bread has very little water, but the carohydrates may not
>> give enough consistant energy for 4 hours.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>>
>> Alan

I'd suggest a high-protein breakfast, with a relatively low
carb content. This will reduce the chances of a blood sugar
spike destroying your concentration, which could happen if you
ate a high-GI high-carb breakfast.

Try scrambled eggs with cheese and a piece of steak. Maybe add
a slice of whole-grain toast and peanut butter. Drink some
whole-fat milk, and skip the OJ.

Paul

[John De Ho]

Paul Chefurka <paul@chefurka.com> said ...

>I'd suggest a high-protein breakfast, with a relatively low
>carb content. This will reduce the chances of a blood sugar
>spike destroying your concentration, which could happen if
>you ate a high-GI high-carb breakfast.

Definitely with you there.

>Try scrambled eggs with cheese and a piece of steak. Maybe
>add a slice of whole-grain toast and peanut butter. Drink
>some whole-fat milk, and skip the OJ.

Skip the steak and go for fish. Your heart and colon will both
thank you. The peanut butter isn't such a good idea either,
since it's likely to be plumped up with trans fats, and
peanuts are not really nuts; the real ones, which are Good For
You, grow on trees.
--
John De Hoog, Tokyo http://dehoog.org

[Paul Chefu]

On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:27:07 +0900, John De Hoog
<dehoog@dehoog.org> wrote:

>Paul Chefurka <paul@chefurka.com> said ...
>
>>I'd suggest a high-protein breakfast, with a relatively low
>>carb content. This will reduce the chances of a blood sugar
>>spike destroying your concentration, which could happen if
>>you ate a high-GI high-carb breakfast.
>
>Definitely with you there.
>
>>Try scrambled eggs with cheese and a piece of steak. Maybe
>>add a slice of whole-grain toast and peanut butter. Drink
>>some whole-fat milk, and skip the OJ.
>
>Skip the steak and go for fish. Your heart and colon will
>both thank you. The peanut butter isn't such a good idea
>either, since it's likely to be plumped up with trans fats,
>and peanuts are not really nuts; the real ones, which are
>Good For You, grow on trees.

Actually, since it's just one breakfast he's talking about,
I'd say pretty much anything he likes would be fair game (even
some game fare?) It's not like he's at risk of taking up the
Atkins diet ;-)

But I would agree in general. A person should eat some fish,
and if they want to eat peanut butter they should eat the
stuff that's made from ground peanuts only - it tastes
better anyway.

And those tree nuts? They may be "good for you" in the
abstract, but for people like me they're certain anaphylactic
death. And that happens a lot faster than atherosclerosis.
Oddly enough, I can eat peanuts.

Paul

[Don Wiss]

On 11 Aug 2002 13:44:34 GMT, alan1s@aol.com (ALAN1S) wrote:

>I'm scheduled for a morning examination in a few days. I
>would like some ideas for a breakfast that:
>
>- has very little water to alow me to sit for 4 hours.
>- would promote good concentration for the 4 hours

Back in my student days I was always under the impression that
one did best on an empty stomach. Not starving, but certainly
don't have a big breakfast.

Don <donwiss at panix.com>.

[jril3882]

On 11 Aug 2002 13:44:34 GMT, alan1s@aol.com (ALAN1S) wrote:

>Bread has very little water, but the carohydrates may not
>give enough consistant energy for 4 hours.

Bread is generally one third to half water, and guess what,
the starch breaks down to glucose which is metabolised to
carbon dioxide and *water*.

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[jril3882]

On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 02:42:40 GMT, Paul Chefurka
<paul@chefurka.com> wrote:

>On 11 Aug 2002 19:10:35 -0700, crazydiamond21@yahoo.com
>(Crazy Diamond) wrote:
>
>> Your brain can run on only one thing, carbohydrates.
>
>That's just not correct. Your brain can run on ketones just
>fine. Look it up.

Are you seriously suggesting that facing an exam in ketosis is
a good thing? :)

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[Ron Ritzma]

On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 02:42:40 GMT, Paul Chefurka
<paul@chefurka.com> wrote:

>On 11 Aug 2002 19:10:35 -0700, crazydiamond21@yahoo.com
>(Crazy Diamond) wrote:
>
>> Your brain can run on only one thing, carbohydrates.
>
>That's just not correct. Your brain can run on ketones just
>fine. Look it up.

True, but that fact doesn't help the original poster because
it takes about 2 weeks more or less for the brain to
completely adapt to using ketones as fuel (look it up) so as
far as him and his exam is concerned, it's glucose only for
the brain.

[Ron Ritzma]

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 09:53:22 GMT,
jril3882@digitsbigpond.net.au wrote:

>>That's just not correct. Your brain can run on ketones just
>>fine. Look it up.

True but irrelevant to Alan's situation.

>Are you seriously suggesting that facing an exam in ketosis
>is a good thing? :)

Probably no problem if he were to go on a ketogenic diet a
month or so before the exam and gave his body a chance to
adapt. However, if he were to go into the exam right after
establishing ketosis, he would feel like warmed over shit.
Kind of hard to take the exam in the midst of headaches and
mild hypoglycemia.

Also, his body would still be dumping water due to glycogen
depletion and would have him running to the bathroom
frequently. He has already said he wanted to avoid that.

[John 'The]

Once upon a time, our fellow Twits rambled on about "Re: Best
breakfast for exam day." Our champion De-Medicalizing in
sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

>>> Your brain can run on only one thing, carbohydrates.
>>
>>That's just not correct. Your brain can run on ketones just
>>fine. Look it up.
>
>True, but that fact doesn't help the original poster because
>it takes about 2 weeks more or less for the brain to
>completely adapt to using ketones as fuel (look it up) so as
>far as him and his exam is concerned, it's glucose only for
>the brain.

This THREAD proves what fools inhabit smn. :-(

On test day, consume 100% protein (so, fish was the answer!!!)
first thing in the morning or take 500 mg to 1 gram of
L-Tyrosine.

Protein activates the brain. Carbohydrates put it to sleep.

Hark! My private health newsgroup beckons!
--
John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a Science!

The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is the foundation of
the biomedical model of natural health. Weighing in at 17
webpages, Nutrition (www.Food.NaturalHealthPerspective.com/)
is now with more documentation and sharper terminology than
ever before.

[John M . W]

Spewing his usual ignorance, John 'the Wanker' Gohde
<DeMan[80]@hotmail.com> spit out his alfalfa sprouts and
ranted:
>
>Protein activates the brain. Carbohydrates put it to sleep.

You are a moron.

>Hark! My private health newsgroup beckons!

Go there. Stay there. Save us from your rampant stupidity.
--

John M. Williams jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com
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Partnership for an Idiot-Free America -------

[John 'The]

Once upon a time, our fellow John M. Williams rambled on about
"Re: Best breakfast for exam day." Our champion
De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

>You are a moron.

You are a fool!

I repeat. The best answer was: Eat Fish. And, I was *not* the
first to recommend Fish. :-)
--
John Gohde, Achieving good Health is an Art, NOT a Science!
http://NaturalHealthPerspective.com/ The ONLY Frauds in Health
are those who couldn't care less about prevention. Beware of
anybody who brags about eating a lousy diet, eating
crispbread, being overweight, or about smoking!

[Paul Chefu]

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 09:53:22 GMT,
jril3882@digitsbigpond.net.au wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 02:42:40 GMT, Paul Chefurka
><paul@chefurka.com> wrote:
>
>>On 11 Aug 2002 19:10:35 -0700, crazydiamond21@yahoo.com
>>(Crazy Diamond) wrote:
>>
>>> Your brain can run on only one thing, carbohydrates.
>>
>>That's just not correct. Your brain can run on ketones just
>>fine. Look it up.
>
>Are you seriously suggesting that facing an exam in ketosis
>is a good thing? :)

I was merely correcting the poster's statement that glucose
was the only fuel the brain can use. Healthy people don't go
into ketosis as the result of one high protein breakfast - it
takes a day or two with no CHO intake for your glycogen
reserves to be depleted, and only then do you enter ketosis.

But in answer to your question, if you are in dietary ketosis
and your brain has full adapted to it (that usually takes
about three or four days), there's no problem at all thinking
or concentrating. In fact many people report improved mental
acuity in ketosis. I've been continuously ketotic since
January, and I certainly wouldn't hesitate to write an exam in
this state.

Paul

[Paul Chefu]

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 07:31:27 -0400, Ron Ritzman
<ritzusenet@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 02:42:40 GMT, Paul Chefurka
><paul@chefurka.com> wrote:
>
>>On 11 Aug 2002 19:10:35 -0700, crazydiamond21@yahoo.com
>>(Crazy Diamond) wrote:
>>
>>> Your brain can run on only one thing, carbohydrates.
>>
>>That's just not correct. Your brain can run on ketones just
>>fine. Look it up.
>
>True, but that fact doesn't help the original poster because
>it takes about 2 weeks more or less for the brain to
>completely adapt to using ketones as fuel (look it up) so as
>far as him and his exam is concerned, it's glucose only for
>the brain.

I agree that this fact doesn't help the original poster. I was
merely trying to correct a common misunderstanding about brain
physiology.

Paul

[Steve Harr]

jril3882@digitsbigpond.net.au wrote in message
<iumluocq494s47jn8a7imiuh2spjbhq17@4ax.com>...
>On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 02:42:40 GMT, Paul Chefurka
><paul@chefurka.com> wrote:
>
>>On 11 Aug 2002 19:10:35 -0700, crazydiamond21@yahoo.com
>>(Crazy Diamond) wrote:
>>
>>> Your brain can run on only one thing, carbohydrates.
>>
>>That's just not correct. Your brain can run on ketones just
>>fine. Look
it
>>up.

You're both wrong. Your brain can switch from full carb to
about 50/50 carbo/keto burning, but can go no further, even in
starvation.

--
I welcome email from any being clever enough to fix my
address. It's open book. A prize to the first spambot that
passes my Turing test.

[jril3882]

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 07:42:31 -0400, Ron Ritzman
<ritzusenet@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 09:53:22 GMT,
>jril3882@digitsbigpond.net.au wrote:
>
>>>That's just not correct. Your brain can run on ketones just
>>>fine. Look it up.
>
>True but irrelevant to Alan's situation.
>
>>Are you seriously suggesting that facing an exam in ketosis
>>is a good thing? :)
>
>Probably no problem if he were to go on a ketogenic diet
>a month or so before the exam and gave his body a chance
>to adapt.

Which will be speeding up gluconeogenesis, which will probably
reduce ketosis considerably, or even eliminate it. I believe
the Innuit do not exist in permanent ketosis.

>However, if he were to go into the exam right after
>establishing ketosis, he would feel like warmed over shit.
>Kind of hard to take the exam in the midst of headaches and
>mild hypoglycemia.
>
>Also, his body would still be dumping water due to glycogen
>depletion and would have him running to the bathroom
>frequently. He has already said he wanted to avoid that.

Yep.

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[jril3882]

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:09:44 GMT, John 'the Man'
<DeMan[80]@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Once upon a time, our fellow Twits rambled on about "Re: Best
>breakfast for exam day." Our champion De-Medicalizing in
>sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...
>
>>>> Your brain can run on only one thing, carbohydrates.
>>>
>>>That's just not correct. Your brain can run on ketones just
>>>fine. Look it up.
>>
>>True, but that fact doesn't help the original poster because
>>it takes about 2 weeks more or less for the brain to
>>completely adapt to using ketones as fuel (look it up) so as
>>far as him and his exam is concerned, it's glucose only for
>>the brain.
>
>This THREAD proves what fools inhabit smn. :-(
>
>On test day, consume 100% protein (so, fish was the
>answer!!!) first thing in the morning or take 500 mg to 1
>gram of L-Tyrosine.
>
>Protein activates the brain. Carbohydrates put it to sleep.

And a red sky at night is a sailor's delight -- idiot!

Hawk! My voices beckon!

jl remove digits to reply

[jril3882]

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 21:24:52 GMT, Paul Chefurka
<paul@chefurka.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 09:53:22 GMT,
>jril3882@digitsbigpond.net.au wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 02:42:40 GMT, Paul Chefurka
>><paul@chefurka.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 11 Aug 2002 19:10:35 -0700, crazydiamond21@yahoo.com
>>>(Crazy Diamond) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Your brain can run on only one thing, carbohydrates.
>>>
>>>That's just not correct. Your brain can run on ketones just
>>>fine. Look it up.
>>
>>Are you seriously suggesting that facing an exam in ketosis
>>is a good thing? :)
>
>I was merely correcting the poster's statement that glucose
>was the only fuel the brain can use. Healthy people don't go
>into ketosis as the result of one high protein breakfast - it
>takes a day or two with no CHO intake for your glycogen
>reserves to be depleted, and only then do you enter ketosis.
>
>But in answer to your question, if you are in dietary ketosis
>and your brain has full adapted to it (that usually takes
>about three or four days), there's no problem at all thinking
>or concentrating. In fact many people report improved mental
>acuity in ketosis. I've been continuously ketotic since
>January, and I certainly wouldn't hesitate to write an exam
>in this state.

So you show positive to ketostix every day? On average, folks
in this state have little energy. It is generally distressing
to the body to have to use all that fat for energy, which is
why gluconeogenesis pathways are induced and every molecule of
glycerol and as much protein as can be found is turned into
glucose. I've read that the Innuit are not permanently in
ketosis. Do you indulge in heavy physical activity?

Your brain will be using glucose almost exclusively.

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[Sir John]

You can not *ANSWER* the question asked, if you are too stupid
to even realize what the question is. :-(

This THREAD operationally defines how incredibly stupid most
of the participants on smn truly are.

They are so ignorant of nutrition, poorly read, totally devoid
of common sense, and stupid, that they totally fail to realize
just how stupid they really are. :-(

<jril3882@digitsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:b23slu0odjk5cmu03a7vn2ddqj5rlpcf5m@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:09:44 GMT, John 'the Man'
> <DeMan[80]@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Once upon a time, our fellow Twits rambled on about "Re:
> >Best breakfast for exam day." Our champion De-Medicalizing
> >in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...
> >
> >>>> Your brain can run on only one thing, carbohydrates.
> >>>
> >>>That's just not correct. Your brain can run on ketones
> >>>just fine.
Look it
> >>>up.
> >>
> >>True, but that fact doesn't help the original poster
> >>because it takes about 2 weeks more or less for the brain
> >>to completely adapt to using ketones as fuel (look it up)
> >>so as far as him and his exam is concerned, it's glucose
> >>only for the brain.
> >
> >This THREAD proves what fools inhabit smn. :-(
> >
> >On test day, consume 100% protein (so, fish was the
> >answer!!!) first thing in the morning or take 500 mg to 1
> >gram of L-Tyrosine.
> >
> >Protein activates the brain. Carbohydrates put it to sleep.
>
> And a red sky at night is a sailor's delight -- idiot!
>
> Hawk! My voices beckon!
>
>
>
> jl remove digits to reply

[Paul Chefu]

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 08:46:49 GMT,
jril3882@digitsbigpond.net.au wrote:

>>But in answer to your question, if you are in dietary
>>ketosis and your brain has full adapted to it (that usually
>>takes about three or four days), there's no problem at all
>>thinking or concentrating. In fact many people report
>>improved mental acuity in ketosis. I've been continuously
>>ketotic since January, and I certainly wouldn't hesitate to
>>write an exam in this state.
>
>So you show positive to ketostix every day?

Yep, every day. The amount of ketonuria varies, but ketones
are always present.

>On average, folks in this state have little energy.

I must not be average :-) I walk two hours a day seven days a
week, mow a very large lawn, and still find the energy to
pursue active hobbies and bug people on smn.

>It is generally distressing to the body to have to use all
>that fat for energy

The reports of increased energy on very low carb diets is as
close to universal as anecdotal evidence can get, IME. There
is less muscle glycogen available for anaerobic exercise, but
in terms of the base-level energy required to live an active
life there doesn't appear to be any appreciable deficit.

>which is why gluconeogenesis pathways are induced and every
>molecule of glycerol and as much protein as can be found is
>turned into glucose.

That is emphatically not my understanding. If you're
interested in what actually happens in ketosis, buy Lyle
McDonald's book "The Ketogenic Diet" from
http://www.theketogenicdiet.com/

>I've read that the Innuit are not permanently in ketosis. Do
>you indulge in heavy physical activity?

It depends on what you mean by "heavy". I'm not a bricklayer,
but I'm pretty active.

>Your brain will be using glucose almost exclusively.

Nope. Your brain can run on a combination of ketones and
glucose - up to 75% ketones once adaptation is complete. There
is apparently an irreducible glucose requirement of 100 g/day,
which can be met either through dietary sources or
gluconeogenesis.

Paul

[John M . W]

"Sir John" <Sir John@GetStev.com> wrote:

>You can not *ANSWER* the question asked, if you are too
>stupid to even realize what the question is. :-(
>
>This THREAD operationally defines how incredibly stupid most
>of the participants on smn truly are.
>
>They are so ignorant of nutrition, poorly read, totally
>devoid of common sense, and stupid, that they totally fail to
>realize just how stupid they really are. :-(

You have all the intelligence and charm of a senile old man
who spends his days sitting on a park bench, ranting
senselessly and pissing his pants.
--

John M. Williams jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com
------------ http://www.rustyiron.net -------------- ------
Partnership for an Idiot-Free America -------

[Alex Brand]

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 jril3882@digitsbigpond.net.au wrote:
>
> So you show positive to ketostix every day? On average,
> folks in this state have little energy.

I've heard that before, but only from people who have not been
in ketosis. Go over to the low-carb diet newsgroup or
misc.fitness.weights and see if you can find anyone there who
felt like they had "very little energy" while in ketosis.

[jril3882]

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 15:36:28 -0500, Alex Brands
<abbrands@artsci.wustl.edu> wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 jril3882@digitsbigpond.net.au wrote:
>>
>> So you show positive to ketostix every day? On average,
>> folks in this state have little energy.
>
>I've heard that before, but only from people who have not
>been in ketosis. Go over to the low-carb diet newsgroup or
>misc.fitness.weights and see if you can find anyone there who
>felt like they had "very little energy" while in ketosis.

Yeah there are bound to be a few dozen zealots over there.
Hey, I've known people who love starving themselves. But the
physiology books I've read state that most people feel like I
did when I was in ketosis for a few months. Lousy!

joe remove digits to email

[jril3882]

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 13:28:12 -0400, John M. Williams
<jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:

>"Sir John" <Sir John@GetStev.com> wrote:
>
>>You can not *ANSWER* the question asked, if you are too
>>stupid to even realize what the question is. :-(
>>
>>This THREAD operationally defines how incredibly stupid most
>>of the participants on smn truly are.
>>
>>They are so ignorant of nutrition, poorly read, totally
>>devoid of common sense, and stupid, that they totally fail
>>to realize just how stupid they really are. :-(
>
>You have all the intelligence and charm of a senile old man
>who spends his days sitting on a park bench, ranting
>senselessly and pissing his pants.

You stole the words from my mouth :)

joe remove digits to email

[jril3882]

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 10:56:55 GMT, "Sir John" <Sir
John@GetStev.com> wrote:

>You can not *ANSWER* the question asked, if you are too
>stupid to even realize what the question is. :-(
>
>This THREAD operationally defines how incredibly stupid most
>of the participants on smn truly are.
>
>They are so ignorant of nutrition, poorly read, totally
>devoid of common sense, and stupid, that they totally fail to
>realize just how stupid they really are. :-(

Thank God none of us are quite like you, Eh?

joe remove digits to email

[Sir John]

"I remember reading in the Guiness book something about a guy
who swallowed a lot of bicycles. I think they were melted
down first. Anyways, wouldn't he have probably consumed a
fatally toxic quantity of iron and have died? Any ideas how
he avoided this?"

<jril3882@digitsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 10:56:55 GMT, "Sir John" <Sir
> John@GetStev.com> wrote:
>
> >You can not *ANSWER* the question asked, if you are too
> >stupid to even realize what the question is. :-(
> >
> >This THREAD operationally defines how incredibly stupid
> >most of the participants on smn truly are.
> >
> >They are so ignorant of nutrition, poorly read, totally
> >devoid of common sense, and stupid, that they totally fail
> >to realize just how stupid they really are. :-(
>
> Thank God none of us are quite like you, Eh?
>
>
> joe remove digits to email

[jril3882]

On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 11:45:20 GMT, "Sir John" <Sir
John@GetStev.com> wrote:

>"I remember reading in the Guiness book something about a guy
>who swallowed a lot of bicycles. I think they were melted
>down first. Anyways, wouldn't he have probably consumed a
>fatally toxic quantity of iron and have died? Any ideas how
>he avoided this?"
>
>
><jril3882@digitsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
>news:7as8mugimbdm0hdiv06bftsc8srnro417b@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 10:56:55 GMT, "Sir John" <Sir
>> John@GetStev.com> wrote:
>>
>> >You can not *ANSWER* the question asked, if you are too
>> >stupid to even realize what the question is. :-(
>> >
>> >This THREAD operationally defines how incredibly stupid
>> >most of the participants on smn truly are.
>> >
>> >They are so ignorant of nutrition, poorly read, totally
>> >devoid of common sense, and stupid, that they totally fail
>> >to realize just how stupid they really are. :-(
>>
>> Thank God none of us are quite like you, Eh?
>>
>>
>> joe remove digits to email

"This THREAD....

Try to avoid non-sequiturs.

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