Any one doing the New high protien diet by Prof. Charles Clarke?

[SlimUK]

Hi!!!

:wave:

:q: Just curious to know if anyone is doing the New High protien Diet by Prof Charles Clarke???

If you are I would love to know how you are going?

I am currently on the plan and have been on it since 1/Aug./2002

Cheers

SlimUk :wave:

[Hils_UK]

Yes, I've been doing it but due to a number of reasons I haven't stuck to it too well. However, I hope I've managed to get my head round it and have started properly again today.

I have a friend (who introduced me to the book) and she has lost a terrific amount of weight.

I don't know if I'm eating too many nuts or too many avocados? (or drinking too much gin!!). I'm also finding it hard without my coffee (I really don't like decaf!).

Please get in touch hils2001~hotmail.com if you want to exchange ideas etc.

Hils

[SlimUK]

Dear Hils,

Thanks for getting in touch - have you thought about starting a journal to track your progress in more detail - I have started one and it is quite useful. I have been doing this WOE for about 4-5 days and my fiancee already says he has noticed a visible difference in the way I look - healthy glow of someone who is losing weight. The scales say I have lost a couple of pounds but I think it is too early to get too hung up on the scales - if i feel good and can feel a difference in the way clothes fit / way i look that is enough for me. I find that if i get too hung up on the scales i get discouraged and then can start to weaken my resolve to lose weight and can find myself reverting back to old habits which caused me to gain an extra 2 stone over the last three years. Anyway thanks for replying to my post - it is so great to know that there is someone else out there doing the same plan.

Cheers and best wishes

SlimUK :wave:

[CHRIS BRAY]

I have just started Prof Clarkes diet and have lost 4lb since Saturday. Recently I was on Atkins but seem to be plateauing all the time. (I'msticking to approx 20 carbs per day)

A collegue of mine and her husband have been on this diet also for three weeks and she has lost 14lb she is only a size 12 now so she has found it very impressive. ( She did'nt eat the higher carb intake, bread etc. but stuck to approx 20 carbs per day) Atkin style.

Remember variety is the spice of life and will keep you interested longer, so keep changing the menus.

[Mrs_Moo]

Glad to hear that others have heard of this diet, I was beginning to think I was the only one!

I have also purchased the Atkins New Diet Cookbook and am trying to refer to both. I am on day three and still trying to find my feet!

I would love to have a buddy for this diet, although I am not quite sure yet what 'buddy' means.

I have a LONG way to go.....but taking it one day at a time. Low carbing is completely new to me!

Good Luck to all of you!

Mrs Moo :roll:

[SlimUK]

It is great to hear about another dieter.

I have been on this plan for just over a week and have lost about five pounds but that is not the best part. I feel fabulous and my skin has cleared and I am still able to enjoy the odd vice ie a Gin and Tonic at the pub!!! :D

How are you getting on?

:wave:

[Mrs_Moo]

Well done you!

I don't think I have lost anything so far. Been a bit silly and been weighing myself every couple of hours! Tsk tsk!

I decided to start a journal to pacify myself. It worked a treat. I know what you mean about skin looking great...I seem to have that all of a sudden...here's hoping the weight loss follows!

Mrs_Moo :wave:

[bluegreen]

Hi,

New member here. I've been lurking for a few weeks and have been enjoying all of your posts.
About myself...

I've put on just over 2 stone during the last couple of years after quitting the nicotine (3 packs a day!) I tried the low-fat, low-calorie, etc to no avail.
A couple of weeks ago I started the New High Protein diet and shed quite a few pounds. I was feeling great, I had more energy, felt calmer and my skin and hair had improved as well.
However, last weekend I had a terrible case of food poisoning and since then I had been loathed to put any protein in my mouth and suffered colossal carb cravings. I went to see my traditional chinese medicine doctor who put me on some detoxing herbs and she suggested to lay off the high protein as well.
Wouldn't you know that I absolutely ballooned in a matter of days, that dark circles that weren't even present during the food poisoning, had appeared and I could barely drag myself out of bed.
Well, I had another consultation with her today and she has told me to go ahead and cut down on the carbs, give up the bread, basically resume the way I had been eating since it had been working for myself. The traditional chinese medicine approach is all about balance and perhaps what falls under the definition of balance is different for everyone. For me, this is low carb and I can't wait to start tomorrow and this time I am staying on track, bugs or no bugs!
Thanks for being here, Bluegreen

[Mrs_Moo]

:wave: Pssst.......I have lost 5lbs! (Actually I think it is probably at least 8lbs 'cause I guessed my starting weight and only weighed myself 4 days into the diet!!!!!!)

HOORAY!!!!!!! I Just had to tell someone!

I feel great and my skin and hair has improved. I also don't feel tired or sluggish. I am getting sick of eggs though. I really want to continue drinking diet coke/pepsi but am a bit scared re the sweetener thing......!

I can't seem to find whey protein anywhere neither so I do feel a bit perturbed that I can't enjoy 'bread' with my butter!

Still smiling and returning to gym this week to 'boost' my weight loss.

Mrs Moo

[Christie]

I started this New High protein diet 2 weeks ago after limited success on Atkins. To restrictive for me and I kept tripping up.I find this so much easier to fit round my life and so far have done ok (I think... too afraid to stand on scales yet!! I do feel better and clothes fit a little bit easier so that is enough insentive for me just now.)

Pleased to see others are doing this and will watch this space for your news.

Basically Im doing atkins but having one slice of bread a day and wine (lots of ) at weekends. I don't restrict my veg either.

Hope Im doing this right any tips aould be welcome.

[Kayceecan]

:wave: Hi Everyone,

Been eavesdropping ;) Where is there any info on this diet? I've searched, but have found nothing. Any site to find out what's involved? How is it different from Atkins? Thanks, K.C.

[Christie]

Got my info from book. If Im reading it right the only difference is a higher allowance of carbs daily, 40grms certainly no more than 60grms a day.Alcohol is allowed as it is v.low carb but definately no beer. You are to have one slice of brown bread daily or the same amount of carbs (17grms) in something similair.
Hope this is of use.
Best to read book though.
Sorry for bad spelling as am rushing out to pick up kids.

[Ascombe]

This my first posting so I hope I get it right. I am also trying the high protien diet I've also tried atkins in the past though I found it too restrictive.
I'm aiming for 30g carb a day thought i hav'nt given up low cab desserts as he suggested. I'v lost about 4 lb in 8 days so far though I think my weight loss has stalled ?? because of trying low carb products eg low carb pizza base or the desserts ? is this possible or is 30g just too much carb for me. I guess I'll persever and find out.
:wave:

[steve23]

Hi All,
My wife and I have been on this diet for about 2 weeks,
and we have a few questions for anyone out there.

1. CHEESE: We have been eating alot of cheese
(our favourite one is Jarlsberg,Norway)and it tends
to have a constipating effect on us.Does anyone know
why the book says it is alright to eat cheese but
not to have milk.....this doesn't add up as cheese
is made from milk..?Perhaps it's something to do with
the cheese making process that reduces the carbs ?

2. Has anyone suffered any ill feeling effects e.g.
FLU symptoms,aching muscles,shivers etc since they've
been on the diet ? and is this because of Ketosis ?

My wife suffers from M.E.so she is very keen to build
up and strengthen her Immune System.Has anyone
got any tips which may help ?

Any info would be much appreciated

Thankyou,
Steve.

[Dahlia]

Hi,

I've been following Charles Clarke diet for 8 weeks and have lost1 7lbs I think he is a bit optomistic in saying you can
eat up to 30 carbs I certainly can't eat over 25.
I lost 7lbs in the first two weks but know loose 1 or 2 lbs a week that is including the occasional days breaking the rules.
I have lost my craving for things sweet and don't feel hungry anymore.
I combine a bit of atkins and Charles Clarke and it seems to work.

like to hear how you are getting on.
:)

Dahlia

[Dahlia]

Hi Steve
I have just read your mail.

My husband is a food chemist and there is a sound chemical reason for the low carb in cheese. Roughly in the process of cheese making much of the whey which contains lactose a sugar is lost so the remaining curds which become cheese are much lower in sugar.

there is a good article on constipation on this web site but I find Psyllium husks from the Health food shop do the trick.

I have a daughter with ME. -she found eccinachia qite helpful but do watch out for food intolerances especially as on this type of diet one tends to eat quite a lot of the same thing
. There is a web site for ME somewhere that might be helpful.
Regards to you both

:wave: Dahlia

[Bungle]

Steve,

Regarding your post, I started on Atkins then read Dr Charles Clark (as it seemed less restrictive), and sort of do a bit of both.

Try to make sure that you are taking enough supplements

basic ones recommended by the atkins book are;

a good multivit without iron

(and one to maybe stop the mussle aches)
potassium + magnessium (there is a ratio of 2 to one on this one but not sure which way round it is off hand, sorry)


Before doing the low carb thing I didn't bother with vitamins but because my intake of bread and milk and fruit has obviously nose dived I found I was getting leg and mussle cramps. But the vits have deffinately helped :).

Also for the ME i would try evening primrose oil supplements. My partner is trying to recover from a long bought of Glandular Fever, and is taking it. It was originally recommended to us by a friend who's dad worked with patients suffering from ME, who also were taking the supplement.

Happy low carbing,

Good luck to both you and your wife with the new way of eating and do hope the eating plan helps with your wifes ME.


regards

Bungle.

[steve23]

Hi Dahlia & Bungle for both of your replies...
my wife and I were very surprised to get
2 replies so quickley !!

Thanks for the cheese explanation,
we've just bought some fetta cheese
to try out..it's organic and made from
sheep and goats.

I will try giving my wife echinacea and
primrose oil for her M.E. She has suffered
with this illness for about 9 years and has
tried both of the above oils/herbs but
maybe she wasn't on the right diet
to allow the correct digestion/absorption
into her system.We are both hoping and
praying that at last this is the right one !

In the meantime will try and find the M.E.
website you suggested(and will buy the rusks
you recommended from the Health food shops)

Thanks again to you both,
:wave:

[Banana]

Hi there,

This sounds interesting. Can anyone explain in a little more detail the differences between this diet and Atkins? What's with the slice of bread, what's that meant to do?

Sorry I don't want to just go out and buy another LC book, I have quite a few already!!!

Hope someone has a little time to sit and explain!

Thanks
Banana :wave:

[steve23]

Hi Banana,
The New High Protein Diet by Prof.Charles Clark
is the first LC book I 've read,I have just bought
Dr.Atkins New Diet Revolution and am reading
through it now.Basically,it seems that Dr.Atkins
LC diet is a bit more restrictive in carbohydrate
consumption,whereas Prof Clark says you should
limit your carbs to between 40-60 grams per day,
(preferably keep under 40 grams).
Clark recommends 1 slice of wholemeal bread per day,
which counts as about 15 grams of carbs towards
your 40 limit.It's quite an effort to keep within this
limit,especially as I've been used to eating white
bread,pasta,rice on a regular basis.....very difficult
to eat curry without the rice,bolognese without
the pasta or spaghetti,or bacon sandwiches without
the white bread...!!!
Anyway I'm trying my best to stick with it....
I do love many different meats,but cutting out
the accompanying carbs in the form of bread,pasta,
potatoes,rice isn't easy....!
Hope this helps,
Steve :wave:

[SlinkyMe]

Hi All

Have been lurking for a little while. Been doing Atkins for just over three months with limited weight success - have lost inches though.

Really interested in this Charles Clark stuff - how's it going? Still losing or hitting stalls?

Any information would be gratefully received
Slinky

[Dahlia]

Hi,
I don't think there is a great deal of difference between the
two both Atkins and Clarkw seem to advise the same thing.
Clarke has more recipies and alows a higher intake of carbs around 30 to 40 which does'nt really suit me as I seem to lead a lower intake about 25. He doesn't talk very much about ketosis or nutritinal supplements and has a pretty good recpe selection at the back along with some isometric exercises . Good for shaping the muscle uder the layers of fat and Ive a lot of that left as I have another 36lbs to go .

I've been doing low carbs for about 11 weeks and lost about 21lbs at the rate of 1 to 2lbs a week after the first two weeks when I lost 4 and3 lbs.

I'm afraid this week I've binged on crisps, chocs and goodness knows what for 3 days because of a special event so its back on the low carb wagon tomorrow.

[Dahlia]

Hi,
I don't think there is a great deal of difference between the
two both Atkins and Clarkw seem to advise the same thing.
Clarke has more recipies and alows a higher intake of carbs around 30 to 40 which does'nt really suit me as I seem to lead a lower intake about 25. He doesn't talk very much about ketosis or nutritinal supplements and has a pretty good recpe selection at the back along with some isometric exercises . Good for shaping the muscle uder the layers of fat and Ive a lot of that left as I have another 36lbs to go .

I've been doing low carbs for about 11 weeks and lost about 21lbs at the rate of 1 to 2lbs a week after the first two weeks when I lost 4 and3 lbs.

I'm afraid this week I've binged on crisps, chocs and goodness knows what for 3 days because of a special event so its back on the low carb wagon tomorrow.

[cathrine]

I have been on the Charles Clark programme for 1 month and have lost 14lbs, and I am absolutely amazed at what I can eat.

[cathrine]

I tried to do the Atkins programme last year but could not get on with it. However I am now using the Charles Clark programme and have lost 14lbs in 4 weeks. It is amazing what you can eat and drink! There are a couple of main differences between the two:

you can eat some carbs on the Clark programme

you can drink wine and spirits on the Clark programme

the Clark book is less technical and less self-congratulating than the Atkins one

the book and the recipes are geared towards a UK audience which makes them easier to follow

Really we don't need a book to do the programme we just need to read our labels and use our brains but it is always good to have something to refer to.

[mark1504]

I felt the urge to 'go Atkins' after seeing it on the TV last summer. I went to the local bookshop (though I'm not sure WH Smith deserves such a description!) to buy an Atkins book but they only had the Charles Clark book.

The principle is much the same as Atkins but with a few different emphases. I was gratified to learn of the lenient attitude to alcohol :-) I wanted to lose weight, not my sanity or friends!

I can endorse all cathrine's earlier comments.

[KATMAG]

:yay: :daizy: : :cheer:
hi guys
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i have been considering swopping to charles clark from atkins ,would i be correct in saying that its the same as atkins but you can eat unlimited veg and fruit and drink wine on the odd accassion and 1 piece of whole meal bread and continue to cook your food with butter and eat cheese? sounds too good to be true! Please if some one could set me straight would be grateful
thank you
kate :wave: :roll: :wave: :roll:

[mark1504]

Whether Clark v Atkins is the best way to put it, I don't know. ;-)

Clark is true to the low-carb/ketosis principle, it is just a matter of emphasis.

So, definitely not unlimited fruit and veg!

He slants more to British tastes by allowing a slice of bread for breakfast (if you really must!) and relatively lenient attitude to low carb alcoholic drinks.

That's a gin and slimline tonic for me thanks!