alcohol

[Rob]

does anyone here drink alcohol?

I would like to hear any personal stories about wine drinking .

Protein Power book seems not to forbid it but to encourage it in small amounts . I have not had any but would like to try ,but not to fluff up my new WOE LOL




Rob :wave:

[Bonnie]

Hi Rob,

I also have been following PP since Dec' 99...the best advice I could give to you is that you have to see what works for you...as you know the Eades state that if you are going to indulge in wine that dry is the way to go... I personally indulge in wine and spirits on occassion and in moderation.... if you do a search on wine and alcohol you will find many threads that have discussed this issue in great depth...

Bonnie

[LittleAnne]

Hi Rob

Whilst I drink very little alcohol there are a number of UK participants who really like the odd, or not so odd, glass of wine. Beside the alcohol wine has around 3 or so carbs per average glass, so remember to count these. Alcohol is always burnt off before other enegy sources, so it has an impact on calorie levels.

Pop into Lastchance's journal. I am sure that a month or so ago she was having discussions about wine drinking and came to the conclusion that she was drinking too much and thus it was stopping her loosing weight. It seems likely that one or two glasses once a week are OK, but too much more is likely to really slow your progress.

http://www.italiantourism.com/images/wine.gif

[Rob]

The Eades actually say that a small amount of alcohol can actually help you loose weight and they quote a few pieces of research about this subject .

What do you make of this ?


Rob

[fiona]

Rob,

I hardly ever drink wine. Definitely slows progress. There is an interesting thread on wine (http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?threadid=41163) you might like to check out.

Might I suggest waiting until you are at least half-way to your goal – decision is yours of course.

Take care,

[rustpot]

Yes I do tipple. I drink red wine......and white wine......and rose wine......lets say I drink wine.

I too gave up for Atkins induction and after two months read Protein power and went whoopee. Nicely timed for Christmas.

However I also love Famous Grouse and soda water. While there are no carbs in spirits and I knew that the pure alchohol would delay weight loss rather than the weight gain through the carbs in Beer and lager (I do like Stella and Grolsch.....how could I watch the world cup and not have on), nevertheless I persisted in my regular nightcap.

If you go to the beginning of my Journal you will see that it was the alcohol that I indentified as the the sole cause of a six week stall.

I stopped for two weeks and the weight began to go again.

There is a post that I started called Black Gold where I announce my discovery that Guinness is a relatively low carb beer ( about 5 carbs for half pint).

But allround as there are positive health benefits with moderate red wine consumption that is now my tipple of choice. famous grouse maybe at the weekends only.

[Rob]

Hey all,

thanks for your very informative replies. As of yet I have not had any alcohol , not that I'm a big drinker but the idea of a glass or two interests me :D especially since the Eades say that it may sensitise the body to insulin and even stimulate weight loss .

I do take on board that it may cause a stall thats why I have not indulged . I like the idea of maybe only on weekends or only when I'm more than 1/2 way to goal . I'm not really a beer drinker ,prefer spirits and cocktails . I've got a full bottle of delicious KWV port wine as well as other red wines and I dont now what to do with them . I've also got tequila as well as KWV brandy LOL

Thanks for your interesting comments once again

Rob :wave:

[Carlos]

Hi Rob!
My weakness is whisky.
I've found that with most spirits the carb content is negligible, and I'm Ok with an occaisional tipple. (as long as I'm careful to use sugar-free mixers)
I did stall once due to 'overindulgence' :daze: shall we say, but overall I get through about 8-10 measures a week and haven't noticed any detrimental effects. :spin:
I see from your last post that you also like spirits, so maybe that's the way to go for you. :thup:

[Rob]

Hi Carlos,
thanks for answering . I'm really not a drinker but I wonder how it would go if I had some ,or if I used it in cooking ??

I do have afew bottles of the stuff hanging about and I want to use it before it goes bad LOL. I read that spirits are digested as if they were fats . Protein Power book says that it may even stimulate weight loss and that 1 or 2 small glasses of dry wine are acceptable with 1 to 1.5 g carbs per Oz .

I havent had a tipple yet , but the day will come :D

I heard that you get pretty slammed as well cos of the low carb .



Rob :wave:

[jaykay]

Can you buy the low carb beer Miller Lite in the UK? I haven't seen it anywhere, but it seems like a good idea! Also, how do you find the carb content of no-alcohol beer. Sometimes I used to drink Kaliber if I wanted a cold beer but needed to drive later or something. But now I'm not sure if I can, cos I can't find out its carb content. Any ideas?

[tink]

HI,

I have the odd glass of dry white, I usually find that is enough to go to my head !!!

It hasn't affected the weight loss.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Rob]

Hi Tink,

I think no alcohol for such a long time would reduce ones tolerance and thereby causing one to det grunk much quicker .

I havent had a drink for months . Hate to find out how I react as I was never the worlds biggest drinker LOL

Hey is sugarfreek.uk your business ?????



:wave:

Rob

[tink]

Yes Rob,

I am co-owner / founder ! Initially started for diabetics, it is how I discovered the LC way of life. Thanks to Lc I have got to my goal weight so I am now maintaining.

You can email me for a discount code if you like.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[fiona]

{I think no alcohol for such a long time would reduce ones tolerance and thereby causing one to det grunk much quicker ...}

You are right Rob. I was teetotal for …. let’s just say a lonnnng time as I don’t want to give away my age ;) !! ….. and now I find one glass will do for me what .. perhaps ten glasses will do for someone else. I have to be responsible as to how much is safe FOR ME if I choose to drink. It might be fun to find out how LCing has affected you.

Take care,

[IcicleWork]

I am at the end of my first week of Atkins, and am going to the pub tonight... I WILL have one pint of Stella, and then go on the soda water, as im driving. But does anyone know how many carbs are in that one pint?

Little Ann has posted a UK carb counter here, and i checked lager and bitter on it and it says 'trace' amount of carbs, but that is totally NOT what Fitday says.. Fitday says it's 1.11 grams carb per ounce, and i think an Imperial pint is 20 US ounces, so that's my entire carb count for the day if i trust Fitday.
How can these 2 sites give such COMPLETELY different answers? You could maybe see them differing a wee bit, but not this much!

If anyone can help me with a lager carb count, i would be most grateful!

[LittleAnne]

Hi

I have just tried the Sainsburys and Tesco's web site and neither give any dietry information for Stella larger. I have looked for other largers and came up with this.

Sainsbury's Biere Des Moulins De Flandres Lager 24 x 25cl

Nutrition
per 100 ml per serving
Energy (kJ) 143.80kj 359.50kj
Energy (kcal) 34.40kcal 86.00kcal
Available Carbohydrate 3.00g 7.50g
Alcohol 3.20g 8.00g


Sainsbury's Cerveza Spanish Lager, Spanish 10 x 25cl

Nutrition
PER 100ML STANDARD SERVING ???????
Energy (kJ) 174.30kj 43.72kj
Energy (kcal) 41.70kcal 10.46kcal
Available Carbohydrate 3.60g 0.90g
of which - Sugars 3.60g 0.90g
Alcohol 3.90g 0.98g

This second one is confusing, perhaps the numbers are the wrong way round?

Whilst not a beer or larger drinker I think that the amount of carbs seem to depend upon the amount of sugar added and it is possible that the taste in the states is very different to in the UK. Have a look at the cans of Stella and see if they contain the relevent information, otherwise that looks around 10-15 a pint, if I've done my sums correctly.

[IcicleWork]

Originally posted by Little Ann
Hi


Sainsbury's Biere Des Moulins De Flandres Lager 24 x 25cl


Available Carbohydrate 3.00g 7.50g





Anne, I must thank you for your speedy reply! You're spot on with this Moulins de Flandres... this is Sainbury's version of Stella (both Belgian) and they taste very similar. However, Im sorry for being thick, but i dont understand what these 2 figures are... is it 3 or 7.5 g for 100ml? Why are they showing 2 figures?

[Rob]

the first is for 100 ml and the second is for 250 ml



all books say steer clear of beer unless it is light beer



Rob

[KellieG]

It ain't as fun as beer...or as tasty as mixed drinks or cocktails- but I ALWAYS have a drink at the pub...

Good ol' Vodka & Diet Coke.

Never stalled me yet. And after a few, you still feel tipsy!

Kellie

[IcicleWork]

That's good news, Kellie!
I'd have thought voddy would have carbs as it's made from potatoes, but i just checked it on FitDay and it said -0-!!!

[LittleAnne]

You are right, Vodka and pure spirits do not have any carbs.

However, they do have lots of alcohol and that is calories. Alcohol not only dehydrates you, but is also a natural poison to the body and so it is expelled first, along with lots of water. That is why its is important to drink water when you have been out drinking to prevent you getting a hangover.

Aren't I a killjoy? Alcohol in moderation is fine, but it does slow some people down.

[Scotsman]

Hope this list of carb counts I knocked up some time back may help:

KCal Protein Carbs

Diet Coke 0 0.0 0.0
Diet Tonic Water 0 0.0 0.0
Spirits, 100ml 220 0.0 0.0
Dry Sherry 100m 115 0.2 1.4
Red Wine, 75cl btl 510 1.5 2.3
Tomato Juice 100ml 15 1.0 3.0
Miller Lite Beer, pint 150 1.4 4.1
Tonic Water 100ml 20 0.0 5.0
Lemonade 100ml 30 0.0 7.0
Lager, pint 170 1.1 8.6
Coke, normal, can 40 0.0 11.0
Orange Juice 100ml 45 1.0 11.0
Port, 100ml 155 0.1 12.0
Beer, pint 180 2.0 13.1
Dry Cider, pint 250 0.0 14.5
Stout, pint 220 2.0 22.0

Yours aye,

Scotsman :wiggle:

[alibubble]

Hi,
I've been low-carbing for 7 weeks now.
Had my first alcoholic drink since starting this WOE last night at a surprise b-day party. I was sh**faced after just one glass of white wine...!!!
Very Bizarre...(and cheap !)
Ali