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K-Louise
Tue, Jan-29-02, 20:42
Hi Cass,

Please don't beat yourself up over this. We, as humans, simply cannot be perfect every single day of our lives (although some of us have high expectations of ourselves to be this way). This is a lifetime plan, and in the end is it really going to be the end of the world if you are one or two pounds over your goal when that date arrives? What is a few days in a lifetime. Just accept that there are going to be days when you are less perfect than others (but not everyday). I'm making a note to take my own advice here :D

Tomorrow is another day, stay on plan, and brush off today.

Kim

Dizz
Tue, Jan-29-02, 22:30
I didn't want to eat I litterally forced myself

Sounds like you were punishing yourself with food. I like the good days better than the bad days but that's life. I don't want anymore of my life wasted at this weight neither do you. Next time you want to punish yourself or
sabotage myself when ever I begin to be successful remove yourself from the situation for a period of time. Set yourself up to win!

So what, you're a few more days getting where you want to be...the time you do it doesn't matter..you doing it matters and you are doing it, you are winning.

Ellipsis
Tue, Jan-29-02, 23:35
Okay, I'll stand up and be counted here. I have 110 pounds to lose before I meet my goal weight of 150. I've just started the Atkins plan, and hope that I can succeed with it where I've failed with other methods. I'm on my 8th Induction day, no major loss yet, but hopefully I can make this work. I'm very hopeful. I'm tired of being fat...I've been so all my life. I wanna try "skinny" for a change!

Wish me luck. :) I'm glad I found this place...I do think I'll be sticking around here for a while!

-- Nicky

Jimsgems
Wed, Jan-30-02, 01:05
Hi Nicky;

Welcome to our group. I'm up in Anaheim, so howdy to my Southern neighbor. You are in the worst part of the whle plan, at least for me and it passed by very quickly and for me it was in the Holidays, that made it rougher at least for me) and 55 lbs lighter in only 58 days so... it will happen for you too. Drink lots of water this is more important that you realize. I saw major health improvements in the first week and it's just getting better. Today is the first day I've been able to walk up two flights of stairs in 15 years w/o pain (I was run over by a truck, that's another story), what a difference 50 lbs can make. This is good stuff. Please enjoy the journey and be well.

EmyAmber
Wed, Jan-30-02, 02:38
Hi,
I'm new here and am getting used to this vB code (I'm familiar with HTML in a limited way but this will take a bit of getting used to).
Right now I weigh 334 pounds, I weighed around 360 when I 'restarted' this way of eating, on Oct 22 2001. I had tried earlier that year, lost weight, then 'fell off the wagon' and regained. I didn't quite get the 'hang of it' and am still learning.
I'm type II diabetic, 47 years old, have high blood pressure, asthma. Before I started this way of eating, and exercising, I was having trouble walking even a block. After I'd lost a few pounds I started exercising on a "total gym" machine my sister has, and I'm building muscle, the asthma is SO much better, I can walk all around Disneyland now without using my inhalor at all ;)

Anyway, I've been going to a couple of forums for support, and found this one, and decided I'd try it too. I don't know for sure how much I want to weigh ultimately, because as an abuse survivor I have issues about fat being my 'protection'. SO I am just going to take it a step at a time, all kinds of emotions and feelings surface as I go, but I know that unless I get my health improved NOW, the quality of life will probably be pretty bad in the next few years. And I want to get out and DO things and live now too, I've spend so much time in hiding.

Well, that was a long introduction, but I was SO glad when I saw this section, for we who aim to lose 100 pounds or more.

From Emy

Marion13
Wed, Jan-30-02, 04:11
Glad to see you here among friends.... we all have a long way to go and we also face a lot of the same issues as the weight comes off. But ultimately we have to face the challenges if for no other reason than our health. We will all succeed with the encouragement and support that we get from this forum. Look forward to catching up with you in your journal.

Maz

cassborn
Wed, Jan-30-02, 06:05
Thank you,
Jimsgems, K-Louise and Dizz I really needed pep talk. I know that as long as I stick to plan I will lose weight. The occasional moment of weakness will even out with the good. I have to keep reminding myself that unlike a diet that I use to drop unwanted pounds and then I go back to my old ways after I achieve my goal weight, this is a change of lifestyle. So along with changing the way I eat I need to change my behavior as well, this will take time. Having this board is really helping me work this all out. I am truly grateful for you all. Today is a new day and I can get back on track.

Welcome Ellipsis and Emy Amber you will enjoy being a part of this support board. I have got so much encouragement from everyone on this board.

Emy,
I can relate to you hiding in your body. I have been doing that since I was a teenager. I have no memory of being abused but I have a terrible fear that some men want to hurt me. When I was a teen I didn't know how to handle unwanted advances by men and I quickly gained weight until I was so unappealing to men and then when I was 20 I lost 80 lbs. and began to look good and the men came swarming around again. I had a bad experience on a date and that sent me back into “hiding”. I gained my eighty-pounds back plus a few for good luck.
I have since found an amazing man who loves me just as I am. We are coming up on our 6th anniversary this Sunday. I have been working very hard to come out of hiding. Losing weight is scary for me. I need to lose weight for my health and to keep up with two small children, but I am also afraid to deal with how men look at me when I am thin. My husband and I have had to work through a lot of my issues in this area and I think I am ready to deal with all my skeletons now. I am excited to be thin for the first time in my life and I will learn how to deal with how men treat me. I refuse to let men who don’t know how to respect women determine how I am going to feel about my body. I have a beautiful body and I want to enjoy it. Good luck to you, I know that this WOL is going to change your life in ways that you wouldn't expect.

Jimsgems
Wed, Jan-30-02, 10:44
Emy;

I am also a person that was abused as a 11 - 15 by two female cousins, YES! That was abuse. I finally figured out that it wasn't my fault, they were an aggressors, not me. I chose instead to forgive, but not forget. When I was older, I got my revenge, but, thats another story, my parents believed me and charges were filed, nuff said.

It's different for girls but fat (weight) won't protect you, not "REALLY". As a police officer and investigator, I can bare that out. You can give up that defence if you'd like and enjoy a longer, healther and more mobile and rewarding life. I find tall (or shorter) big women really sexy. Go figure? My wife is 5' 11" and 185 and I don't want it any other way.

As a Type II diabetic also (8 years), I am now off all medication and my numbers are wonderfully norman. My BS = 115, BP = 142/82, HDL-LDL = 80 and with all the egg's I'm eating my coat is very glossy.

I live in Anaheim, you mentioned Disneyland? Be well, be happy.

Welcome again.

EmyAmber
Wed, Jan-30-02, 14:11
Thanks for the welcomes. I got a lot out of what you all shared, I'm going to have to work on my 'fat as protection' defense, as I go along. It helps to hear that it doesn't really keep me (or anyone) 'safe', and that there are people who understand where I'm coming from.

I'm hoping to get off or at least reduce my diabeties and high blood pressure meds in time-already my bg levels are better, and while I didn't have high cholesterol/tryglicerides before, they HAVE gone down a bit already. I just need to get the 'good' one, ah....HDL is it???? Higher. I hear that I can work on that by eating more nuts, or getting more olive oil in my diet.

Anyway, it's great to talk to people who understand. I'm really happy with this way of eating, finding freedom from compulsive eating for the first time in my adult life, really. Amazing :roll:

Jimsgems
Wed, Jan-30-02, 14:51
"finding freedom from compulsive eating for the first time in my adult life, really. Amazing" Yes it is amazing Dear One and it's easy and safe, thats a good thing . With apologies to Martha Stewart.

Andy Davies
Wed, Jan-30-02, 17:45
Cass, I can relate to your point about self-sabotage. This is something I don't consciously do, and hadn't even thought about it until I read your above post. And yet, as soon as I read those words, I felt a cold wash of recognition around my head and trunk. I have a stumbling block, in which I have lost 77 pounds on two occasions now, but cannot seem to get beyond that figure. Always something crops up which dashes the latest hope, and there is a possibility that I.too. sabotage my own success when I get to that stage each time. I will have to go away and think hard about this issue, and examine all the evidence as impartially as I can. I think you may have stumbled onto something here...

Andy

DWRolfe
Thu, Jan-31-02, 09:43
I've explored this to a certain point in therapy a few years ago. I've had the same thing happen, I diet or change my WOE and successfully lose weight and look good. But then I believe I start to feel vulnerable because I don't have the big wall of protection around myself as a barrier between myself and the experiences and people that await me. Being vulnerable and open and avaialable means taking risk, such as risking being hurt or placed in situtations that you don't feel you're equipt to deal with. I've even noticed that as I lose weight, I hold a pillow next to me as I sleep that sort of makes me feel more like my size when I am my biggest. I guess the things that we want to sheild ourselves from are different for each person. For me, I think it's fear of having too much attention drawn to me and fear that I'll have to be charming and witty and bright but instead will fall flat. My therapist always asked me if that had ever happened. I has not. So she suggested I always look to the evidence and experience when facing my fears and stop manufacturing possible scenarios.

Let's face our fears and win this game!

Jimsgems
Thu, Jan-31-02, 10:51
DW;

I'll have to be charming and witty and bright but instead will fall flat.

You could really not ever do that, you are already Warm, tender charming, witty and bright. I too draw attention when I enter a room and I do that a lot as I'm a singer of Southern Gospel Music and a Bass Singer and a minister in song (at least that's what it says on my card). I am also funny, quick, witty and charming just being myself, I've never missed a oppertunity to give a warm hug, a kiss on the cheek and a simple complement to anyone who get's in myway. I'm finally getting that I'm really bright too.

I am touched by yoour thoughtfullness and the way you tell your story, very tender.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, I don't know if you realize a beard is a mask also, you might still be hiding behind. If it wasn't there and you only had a mustache for example for decoration, we could see your beautiful face and your smile too. It's just another choice and a random thought of my totally demented mind. Your friend, JR.

DWRolfe
Thu, Jan-31-02, 11:42
What a thoughtful reply, JR! :)

Your point about my wearing a beard is well taken. But truth be told, I just look better with one! I shaved it off a few years ago just to freshen up my look, but I really didn't care for it much. It's several colors now (early 40's) which I like, too. I think I orginally grew it following the advice of someone who pointed out that by wearing facial hair, a man can draw attention away from his balding head. As I've matured, however, I've learned to appreciate my balding head (as do others) but the beard remains and gets my daily attention. :p

I also draw a lot of attention when I walk into a room. I guess it bothers me most when I am at my biggest because I'm always adjusting my clothes or trying to get comfortable on some too small chair. And after the thick fog of denial recently lessened, I realized that I am basically the biggest person of every group I'm in. I don't like that feeling very much. :thdown:

Whenever I mention to people who know me that I am shy and don't like attention, they usually laugh at me. I guess I do a good job of overcoming my fears by being outgoing and personable. But it's not easy when I'm worried that my pants are going to fall off (small waist & butt, big gut). Do you know what I'm talking about here? :q:

Thanks too for sharing here with us. Your weight loss experience inspires me!

Carry on! :wave:

P.S. Am I the only one who misses the spellcheck feature? Ugh...

cassborn
Fri, Feb-01-02, 08:57
This WOE is so effective in helping me lose weight without complete denial that it has inspired me as well as terrified me. The only thing to stop me from being successful is self-sabotage. I have had to come face to face with all that I am afraid of and begin to deal with my past issues. I have begun to see myself thin and walk though how that makes me feel (great!!!) and now I want to be thin and healthy more than I want to be afraid. Fear has kept me company for a long time, like a good friend. Fear and I have done everything together, we became reclusive together, we have canceled plans at the last minute afraid of how we would fit into an unfamiliar situation, we have sat in the back and stayed off to the side together, we wore clothes that were to big for us so that maybe people couldn’t really figure out how big we were.
I don't have to be afraid anymore. I am no longer vulnerable to the things that I once was vulnerable to that made me hide in my obesity. I am free to go on to live the life that I want to live. We are all free to go and live without fear. I am becoming more and more excited as I continue to lose weight. I am seeing less and less of my old friend fear. I don’t need fear to keep me company anymore because I am becoming good friends with courage.

DWRolfs,
I know what you mean when you talked about becoming vulnerable to people. The thinner you become the more people notice you and the more people want to interact with you, and the more you open yourself up to being hurt. By closing yourself off from people, you miss out on so much as well protecting yourself from hurt. This is a time of transformation for those of us who have become obese to hide from people and pain. With each pound we shed we must become stronger than the fear and redefine who are and who we want to be.

Jimsgems you made a good point about DWRolfe’s beard but I think he looks great with it. ;)
Cass

bubbychux
Fri, Feb-01-02, 09:41
Good Morning,

I really enjoyed reading this thread to everyone. I agree that we can use our weight as insulation from dealing with other people, or situations that might mean we have to be vulnerable. When I was 20, that was 10 years ago I weighed more than I do now, and went on a very strict diet and exercise program and I lost over 100 lbs, but not without some major problems, all emotional of course. No one prepared me for the vulnerability that comes with being thinner. I had this bipolar relationship with my body. One day I would love it, the way it curved, or the way ribs stuck out or what have you, and the next I'd criticize the stretch marks and poochy tissue left behind from having been so heavy. Relationships were just doomed for failure at that point. I had such low self esteem that I sabotaged almost every one.


It amazes me though, when I look back now and see photographs, how attractive I looked, but how much I hated that and myself. Another major factor was that I was almost always hungry and went on these horrible binges and then would purge (yes bulimia) and that purging emptied me emotionally. At any rate, my point is that we can be our own worst enemies and it's really sad that our society has set us up this way. Such insane ideals are impressed upon us from infancy that it is no wonder there is an epidemic in this country. That plus the fact that there's sugar implanted into almost everything we eat now. I'm just greatful that we can recognize that a lot of it comes from within and that that is half the battle. I'm also even more glad that we have a WOE and WOL that centers us in so many ways. I can also say that I've matured greatly in the last 10 years, and that I'm much better equiped to deal with my emotions as they may arise. It also helps to have great forums like this one to make me realize that I am not alone.

Everyone, lets keep up the good work and try not to be our own worst enemies this time.

Sharon

Jimsgems
Fri, Feb-01-02, 11:02
Hi all and Good Morning;

Ya all are so well spoken, I'm getting self concious (yes, I too miss the Spell Check feature), hoping to keep up with you all.

DWR; You wanna keep the beard, great. Remember I said it was a choice. It can't hide the face that you are just a really big Teddy Bear. That's a really great thing. Remember... I, R, 1, 2!!!

The more you loose (This has been my experience), the more you are noticed and we can all just get over that and move on. Some people (both women and men) who wouldn't give me the time of day at 395, are now stopping by to say hello and ask me how I'm doing and how much weight I've lost now. I'm just so-o-o cute, charming and witty, I just smile and say, Thank you.

Folks who follow the Southern Gospel Music and only see me every 3 months, have seemed almost stunned, I guess 54 lbs is a lot in a less than 60 day period, I'm walking better and my health is getting better. Between this WOE and my wife, and her kind help in all of this, It's been easy so far.

I am blessed to be in company of such bright and accomplished people such as yourself. Be well, hug's and lot's of encouragement and sincere love. Jim :D

Hey... PS; I really miss the spell chekkkkkeeer too.

Ellipsis
Sat, Feb-02-02, 06:57
Hi Nicky; Welcome to our group. I'm up in Anaheim, so howdy to my Southern neighbor.
Hi Jim. :) Thanks for your welcome!


Drink lots of water this is more important that you realize.
I've been doing this for about three days now, drinking 100 ounces a day. It's been a challenge, but I think it's helping...it seems that the first "burst" of induction weight loss has kicked in. Yay!


Today is the first day I've been able to walk up two flights of stairs in 15 years w/o pain
YEAH!! Very nice! May this continue to get even easier for you!

:)


-- Nicky

Marion13
Sun, Feb-03-02, 04:47
I've been reading back over the posts to catch up... Re the issue of saboutaging yourself, as much as I hate to admit it, I have definitely been guilty of it in the past.... I am at present at the lowest weight I've been for over 10 years and at the exact weight where I have thrown in the towel on about 12 other occasions and regained all I have lost.... but this time, for whatever reason I'm determined to break past it.... I actually have a book that I write my weight in once a week and take my measurements every 3-4 weeks.... when I look back through it, it always stops at my current weight.... why, I honestly don't know but I think that perhaps some of it is being scared to lose weight.... BUT, by the end of this week I know I will be able to report that I've broken through my invisible barrier....

Maz

LC_Dave
Sun, Feb-03-02, 08:04
What makes me angry about my pounds to loose is that Sugar is in everything! All the restaurants and fast food places, everywhere that 'normal' peopel go - that kind of food makes me fat.

But the real stickler is the people who believe it's 'my' fault. I've eaten myself to this, I've been super-lazy, I don't have willpower.

Their pathetic ignorant egotistical 'moral high' stance - really gets to me!

I've had bad run ins with old and ignorant skinny people. These people despise overweight people and see them as inferior!

UGGH! Sorry - I needed to RANT!

LC_Dave :(

Victoria
Sun, Feb-03-02, 09:43
This thread is just so inspiring and thought provoking. It is good to know that there are folks out there dealing with the same issues of vulnerability and being noticed. I know this has been a problem with me also. But then there comes a time where you feel like people are noticing you because you are the FAT person in the place. I don't like that feeling. I would rather blend a little better. :rolleyes: Thank you Jim, DWR and Andy for being so willing to share. It's refreshing to hear from the guys on a personal level.

LC_Dave, I've had that kind of thing happen with elderly people. But you have to remember, they didn't grow up with fast food and super sizing portions. When they were young, people didn't drink more than an 8 oz. glass of soda. Now a days people are daily consuming 48 oz. sugary sodas with no thought to what it might be doing to their systems. I remember one lady telling me, doesn't it have to do with just pushing yourself away from the table? The thing that hurt was, I knew I didn't eat any more than she did. But she assumed I did, because I was so much bigger.

Well, keep going people...we can do this. It may take a while, but we can do this! ;) Victoria

cassborn
Mon, Feb-04-02, 08:51
Happy Monday everyone,
Please, forgive my gloating/celebrating but I am a Mass. native I just moved to NH in September of 2001.
I had to make my confessions in my journal today about the SB party last night, but I am not sorry. One night of rouge eating was worth it. I am back on track today. I am hoping that the damage will be minimal but I am drinking lots of water and keeping a tighter rein on the carbs this week.

I hope this Monday finds you all happily low-carbing.
Cass
:spin:

Lessara
Mon, Feb-04-02, 11:26
Cass, I did the same thing! I had chips and onion dip. But I'm back on course! :p
Wasn't the game terrific!!

bsayne
Thu, Feb-07-02, 14:16
Facial hair and all! Cherish the "old" ones too. Wisdom, if there is wisdom to be had it seems always to be on this thread for me.

I am fast approaching 50% and the previous...fall off the plan and just die stopping point...I am aware, (as ever!) that I have to face these fears and be watchful for even the slightest...."I've done so well, I'll just have one bite" mentality creeping in. I gained all of my weight at special occasions...well, they must have been "special" to me to have to use an excuse to binge on the carbs that have never made me feel good. Now every day is a reason to be good to myself and others and not to confuse food for Love, Warmth, Intimacy, Friendship, Caring, Stress Relief or Support.

Luckily, as this is a learning process...I am learning something...and have piled lots of extra support on in the up and coming milestone...It will happen, it will happen soon and it will be a learning experience...followed closely by the pounds to follow...for it will not stop there! Keep the faith, and the determination will follow!

Bsayne

Andy Davies
Thu, Feb-07-02, 20:04
Some interesting posts have appeared on this thread since my last visit.

It seems like the self-sabotage issue has affected quite a few of us, and I recognise in the posts of others some of the experiences I have had myself. Having given this a lot of soul-searching, I believe that I have sabotaged previous efforts before the end, then done so again at the same point on the next occasion. Indeed, during the past few days, I have caught myself introducing little sabotaging cheats into my otherwise well-controlled dietary regime, and have found it most worrying. This has come as something of a shock to me, especially as it has such major implications on future behaviour.

Interestingly, I was also the class joker at school...And, as if that were not coincidence enough, I also grew a beard for 9 years, and for half of the 70s and half of the 80s, looked like Barry Gibb of the Bee Gees. Luckily, I did not sound like him when singing, being a natural Bass! But I heard a lot of these comments about hiding behind a beard at the time, and honestly did not believe I was doing so. Rather it was, if anything, an act of rebellion and general dissent, a role which again seems familiar to me, now that I am part of a LowCarb community in the face of society's overall disapproval.

LC_Dave, I started up a thread for the release of feelings like those you express. Click on the link below, read some of the experiences other members record, then feel free to vent your own spleen there!

http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26316

Andy

BaileyWS
Thu, Feb-07-02, 23:34
Bsayne ...

Congrats on getting so close to the 50% mark ... It's good to know how far we've come ... and to celebrate accomplishments. This is a HUGE accomplishment! :cheer:

Everyday, though, really becomes a new beginning. Everyday we rehearse the priorities we strive for, the values we hold, and make decisions for today ... Even when we meet our goals, we start fresh each day ... making the choices we want for our lives at that time ... I hope this becomes the strenghth for you to get through this milestone, and remain true to your real goals.

Sinlaila
Fri, Feb-08-02, 15:11
I have been reading through the thread and all I can say is that you guys are AWESOME. Tons of support! I sure could use some too.
I have always been heavy as far back as I can remember. Being 45, that is a pretty long time. I know part of the problem is that I need to exercise, but I have never done any. Even as a kid, I ducked PE class every chance I got. Anyone one have any suggestions for remedial exercise? I know about walking but it is always raining up here in Washington. Also, what motivates you to do it? I'm fat, I'm tired, every thing I do hurts. OK, I'll stop whining now.

Dizz
Fri, Feb-08-02, 17:30
Sinlaila, try water aerobics. Yeah, I know the first time in a swimsuit in years BUT it is great exercise and not hard on the joints. So wear shorts or a big T-shirt over a suit until you get use to the idea of wearing a suit. I love it. Look at the YMCA or some of the hospitals have Rehab places with pools you can use for a monthly affordable fee. Good luck.

Marion13
Tue, Feb-12-02, 19:18
Hi Sinlaila

I agree with Dizz, if you want to ease into exercise try water aerobics. I started at the beginning of the year and love it. The first Sunday morning that I went I felt absolutely sick in the stomach worried that people would "look" at me, but once I got up the courgage and got in the water I had a great time and, as it turned out most people in the class are on the big side, so we are all there for the same reasons. The best thing is you get a really good workout without any soreness the next day as the water totally supports your body.

Good luck

Maz

Dizz
Sun, Feb-17-02, 18:32
I can hardly wait until I get the pool at my house open again. The drive across town is a big bad pain in the neck! However, I am learning alot of water aerobic exercises.

bsayne
Sun, Feb-17-02, 21:19
Water aerobics is my favorite starter exericise! If you cannot find classes locally but there is a pool available then walk the water in waist deep or slighty higher...sounds easy but if you try it you'll feel the resistance! When that becomes easier then try to run....Do wear good supportive shoes in the water...Not the little slip-ons without arch support, preferably...canvas washable if you don't have access to actual water aerobic shoes...yes they make them! Also resistance gloves are great for arms!

My first suit was a snug 24...I didn't look at my reflection then either, too distracting and NOT advisable to jump in with your mouth hanging OPEN! I just jumped in as soon as we were allowed...hustled like mad and jumped out to shower...I know this is so hard for some people, but you are there for yourself and no one else! My current suit was attached to a goal, and is a pretty costly size 16, but it will last me even down a couple of size because of the way it is made...I shopped Department store sale racks, clearance and online for discontinued large sizes...H2Owear.com is another good source as is speedo.com. As some places will not allow other than actual swimwear.

Wendy, thanks for the note....I made my 50%! It feels so good! So close to my 200 pound marker too!

3 pounds from here is my previous road block...It is just around the corner and I can't even remember when the last time a scale and I faced off to see a number 1 in front of the wt! More than 10 years! This works, you just gotta be open to tweaking your program and sticking with all this great support!

Thanks all and keep hanging in! We're all rootin' for ya!

Beth

Jimsgems
Sun, Feb-17-02, 23:41
Hi again...

I'm still around, took a trip into internet hell, computers and ISP's and e:Mail, oh my! But I'm back up again.

Going to stop by my doctors next week to check weight, I haven't weighed in a month, and if I haven't lost too much weight I've lost bulk, I have enough room in my clothes for a family of gypsy’s,to move in, that might be fun. Never mind.
I'll update my stats next week, everyone be well and have fum. Jim

Dizz
Mon, Feb-18-02, 02:29
Good luck Jim.

:D

I know those gypsy's they visited me for a while then I went shopping. Just gave those clothes away!

Good to see you online again.

cassborn
Mon, Feb-18-02, 09:31
Happy Monday everyone,
I haven't posted in a few days. I have been doing okay. I had one little dip on Friday but overall I am doing well. I hope this Monday finds everyone happily low carbing. :)

:q: I have a Health-O- Meter dial scale with 350 weight capacity but it has been hard for me to get an accurate weight. I finally broke down and bought a balance beam scale, but I was curious what people over 300lbs. are using.

Julie88
Mon, Feb-18-02, 09:39
I found a scale at wallmart made by Taylor It weighs to 330 lbs
and thats the best I could do, I started on it at 344 and can still see the weight accuratly comming off now at 333 I m almost within the limit. Ps I paid $39.95.

Jimsgems
Mon, Feb-18-02, 14:10
I've even gone into doctors offices and they have a balance beam scale but the limits was 350. I was going to a friend's warehouse and using his industrial strength scale but I'm now below 350 and I can be weighed in the mall or any of my doctors office. Scales that go above 400 are very expensive, so... I hope I never have to deal with that again.

bsayne
Mon, Feb-18-02, 14:14
Good luck at the Doctors Jim! Looking forward to the update!

Have a good monday all!

Beth

Lessara
Mon, Feb-18-02, 16:31
I've been reading this thread (Can we print all the replies in a thread at once?) and I felt compelled to tell you about my recent experience.

I hang out with my friends every Friday night. We are all in our late 20s and well into the 30s. Lately I've have been asked out by almost all the single males in my group. All right after I lost 45 lbs. One of my friends, a close one of 15 years told me that I seem more confident and that I had "wonderful" curves that he hadn't noticed before. :rolleyes:

Now you can guess what my mind is saying: Oh, I've heard this before, I'm thinner so I'm more attractive. All they want is my body.
or I think: Everyone is feeling the "Aught to be married by now" blues.

Isn't that awful?? Should it matter 'WHY' men are attracted? It seems that is what I focus on. :rolleyes:

Oh I sleep with a pillow too. :)

skinnymini
Mon, Feb-18-02, 16:59
Keep on going mari, when i started the low carb programme i was 250lbs. today i'm 135lbs.... congrats on your success thus far.

stephen

allisonm
Mon, Feb-18-02, 17:04
Hi Lessara! :wave:

I know what you mean. This guy has known you for a while, you haven't changed, you're the same person, why wasn't he interested before? Why now? Easy to be cynical.

But let's give this guy the benefit of the doubt. Remember, there were TWO parts to his answer. He also said you've been more confident.

I know that I'm much happier now that I've lost a chunk of this weight and my blood sugar is now stable. And I've been projecting it outwardly. I'm probably more approachable now. A little more friendly.

Do you like him? Are YOU interested in HIM?

Congratulations on being asked put by all the single men in your group! How exciting! (I hope to move past inspiring the interest of married men and lesbians :rolleyes: )

Allison

Jimsgems
Mon, Feb-18-02, 17:15
Dear Lessara;

I’m sorry your recent experience has or seemed to have un-nerved you, I do understand at least from a man’s POV (Point of View). Men are stimulated visually and we do like the curves and as I so lovingly say… your elegance’s.

Please do not be offended by that, it is simply our nature, driven by our biology, I do know that men who are not aware of their mechanisms can be quite stupid and even rude in their approach. Real men know to look beyond the basics to the person inside the body, those are the one’s you want to consider, but again keep in mind we do notice the shapes and bump’s driven by our personal body type attraction priority.

An example, though not necessarily the best one (but it’s real) My 5 wives were all shaped about the same, tall (5’-10" to 6’-1"), proportionally breasted, usually a 42 "D" cup and a larger scale body, I love broad shoulders as an example. Everyone of my lovely women could have modeled for a Lane Bryant catalog or even Victoria Secret, so every man has a preferred body type, when someone comes into my presence shaped in "my type", my alarm still goes off! My last wife (we’ve been married 16 years now) so I’ve learned how to be with one woman (Thank God!), but till the day I die, I will continue to enjoy the curve’s and lovely shaped of the opposite sex.

I hope this has been helpful in content, I know it’s a bit personal but only by telling the truth as it is can we, men and women hope to understand one another, our needs, want’s and mechanism’s that make us the way we are.

I have done exhaustive study as a layman and councilor in the mechanisms of out most basic wiring of our brain’s, both men and women. An example of that wiring that demonstrates how we are wired… "DON’T THINK OF A ORANGE", ups! Too late. You have to think of an Orange in order not to think about it. That is an example of our wiring we are in many ways "automatic thinkers", that’s why diet’s don’t work and WOE (Way of Eating), in a very basic way when we actually get it, we are changing automatic responses, in a way re-wiring our though process. End of note, everyone be well and smile, you are loved by God and me too!

Gator
Tue, Feb-19-02, 09:38
Hi Lessara,

Trying to answer that honestly and remain politically correct is a tough one.

I do think though, that the physical attraction thing goes both ways, not just the guys toward the girls. I have noticed that I get a lot more attention from the opposite sex when I am much thinner, even from people I have know for a long time.

I am sure there are certain physical features of guys that you are more attracted to than others. It is human nature, and there is nothing wrong with that. Once we get to know a person, though, most of that disappears. From your picture, you are obviously very beautiful on the outside, and to be getting so much attention, you are probably very beautiful on the inside also.

Of course, what we are talking about here is strictly the romantic side of life. If it spills over into job selection, etc....then that is wrong, and is discrimination.

This guy has probably always liked you, but is now noticing you just a little bit more.

Let's face it; Our body is part of who we are. And all of us are here together trying to improve that part of ourselves, for health reasons, for self esteem reasons, for romantic reasons, and just to feel doggone great!

I have read many of your posts, and you have great insight.

Have a wonderful day.



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Jimsgems
Tue, Feb-19-02, 10:19
Hey Gator,

My fishing friend, you hit the nail right on the hammer! I have prided myself on never being politically correct, but I'm always RIGHT! That's a little consertive joke for the morning. But you are correct in everything you precented in your post.

I am one who wishes "P.C." meant Patriotically Correct and not Politically Correct. I'm one of these simple folk who believe the truth is... nottin more and nutten less! Get's me in trouble a lot!

I too am getting lot's of attention from almost everyone who knew or know's me and some who didn't know me before. I don't consider that the problem. My wife considers that amusing, she's great.

I have always had women friends (Not necessarilly that kind, but some) all my life. From 4 to 99 years old.) I'm just one of the good ol' boys who adore women in all their forms, ages, conditions and shapes. Sex has little or nothing to do with my attraction at this point in my life,(though as a young I was an ol'Horndog!) I just enjoy women's attention, comfort and fellowship (sex, did I mention the three letter word? Sex!).

I guess that kinda weard, but that's me. I'm not pretty, God know's that, but I am a good person with charm and a unique draw, I can't define (but I know when I set it into motion) and have always had folks feel real good around me. A kind word, a complement, a feeling of secutity in my size, a warm hug and away I go. Hey Work's for me.

Going on a job interview, wish me well, those who do... say a prayer that this is the job HE has in mind for me at this point in my life. Be will and have fun... Jim (boy! I miss the spell checker!)

Good Fishing, Gator!

Lessara
Tue, Feb-19-02, 11:40
I have to tell you this, In my group of friends, three are female including me, and I'm the only single one :D
Most of my male friends are totally scared to talk to women.
One of my dearest friends just asked a woman out that he's had a crush (do 30 year olds have crushes?), he's 34. It was the first time in 10 years he did that. He was so proud of himself, even though the woman said no (They work in the same office).
I do know half my problem. I don't think I'm attractive. Oh I think I'm pretty. But I just don't believe I have what it takes to attract a man. I've been told by several male friends that I'm wrong.
Why can't I believe? I have a great esteem. I am smart, funny, pretty etc. I love my job and I think I'm a good mother and friend.
My father told me quite often when I was young that men think fat women are ugly. I know that's what I hear so I try and keep my own thoughts to myself and say thank you when a friend compliments me :p

I am more confident than I was before so maybe that has something to do with the attraction of others.
Oh and I do find many of my friends attractive. :)

lesleyc
Tue, Feb-19-02, 13:15
hi Lessara,

sometimes we are our own worst enemy. By thinking nowbody finds us attractive we behave in ways which make us less attractive.

But recently I have found myself attracted to a guy who is overweight. He is an ex football player who has not kept up the fitness levels he used to have and has had the consequential effect of that. But he is handsome, intelligent ( a lawyer!) and funny....really sexy.

My point being - he doesn't have to be slim to be sexy. We can be like that too, if only we have the self esteem and confidence.

Ohhh - and I shouldn't even be thinking and saying these things ...I'm married :eek: ;)

lesley

Jimsgems
Tue, Feb-19-02, 14:19
You guy's, all of you brighten my day, Thank You all.

Now to my epistle... Lessara, I'm gonna name you but, it is really for all of us. I now have my Dr. Jim Hat on. Ph.D. in brain research at an un-named university here in Southern California; Your father gave you bum advice!!! he did you a true dis-service and he is/was totally inaccurate.

Case in point in one of the commercial's on weight control medication running on TV, an absolutely beautiful woman is roller blading and she is a hefty lady to be sure when they cut to her face, well it is a gift from God! No really. She is one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen on this Earth, ever, I just want to hold he and munch on her sweet neck and ups! I'm married too!(By the way my wife agrees with me about her beauty). I wish I knew who she is I would love to have that incredibly beautiful, sexy beyond my imaginings, full figured goddess, a woman of my dreams in front of my camera lens. Yes! At 54 I have a crush on her! But, I'm rambling.

It not you it’s your presentation, you are a very attractive young lady, I’ve only seen one photo of you and my eyesight isn’t very good, but you look good to me!!! The information your father (Daddy-god) told you went directly into you tape library in your brain, roughly in the same place where if I ask you to NOT THINK OF AN ORANGE, you have to think of an Orange FIRST, before you can not think of an orange… When you see a overweight person up comes tape… Daddy-god #45673412 and it automatically says… "Fat people are ugly!" it automatic, totally automatic it is in your data bank automatic response. Now your job is to notice that the tape is playing and try to update your reaction… "no Dad that is not true for me" is a good place to stop.

A very quick explanation about the term "Daddy-god", of if it had been Mom, it would have been "Mommy-god", with "god being lower case. When we were young our primary care givers are what we watched, believed without question and with reverence worthy of a god, you depended on them for everything, and you believed them absolutely. But they are only human and when we discover that usually the damage is done and usually at 10 or 12 years old we discover they are not infallible, but the tapes are already in your memory banks waiting for the key word to flash and display the track, so to speak. We are really all beautiful in our own was, my God made us that way, even Dr. Linus Pauling, one of the greatest minds of our century though horrible twisted and mal-formed by a awful disease, beyond his self he even is beautiful in my world. Have fun Be well, God Bless.

Please excuse this long and rambling post, just some suff I had to say. :D

BaileyWS
Tue, Feb-19-02, 23:57
I don't know if I'm even qualified to speak to this issue having never been single. I was married at age 18, so effectively, was never "in" the singles scene ... and my husband has always been attracted to me at 160 or 290.

Now, here's what I ask my daughter about women and looks ... do you really want a relationship with a guy who is initially and primarily attracted to your looks? I don't ...

I want a relationship based on mutual interests, shared values, friendship, mutual admiration and respect ... not physical attractiveness. I am not going to argue with the fact that men are more often initially sexually stimulated by the visual. That is pretty much accepted ... but "attractiveness" means a lot more than looks.

Even my husband agrees ... that he's more attracted to personality, style, etc. than looks ... maybe he's a rarity (and I'm the lucky one <G>). But I believe him ... I know who he thinks "looks good" and I often agree, but that doesn't mean that he's the least bit interested in having a relationship with them or that he even likes them.

And the opposite is also true ... friendship, respect, admiration, etc. can also titilate the libido.

I also agree that "presentation" makes up for a lot in the looks department ... confidence, make-up, personal style, hygeine ... can make a huge difference ... but I wonder if that's really so much about looks, or if it's really about the self-confidence ... if you think you look good, you project good looks?

Dizz
Wed, Feb-20-02, 00:16
:thup: Very well said!!

Jimsgems
Wed, Feb-20-02, 01:53
BaileyWS;

Very well said and I totally agree with 99% of what you said, and consider... great love comes from great relationship, not usually the other way around. Fulfilling sexual love does not come from one night stands.

Bailey, This was not directed at your very accurate comments, I didn't mean that was what you said, you clearly didn't, just my poor writing skills, sorry if I made it sound that way.

I am constantly getting hit on by my friends for me to introduce them to my women friends, from the club, from auto racing and from church. I’m not a match maker, I simply don’t do that and I tell them straight up. Some friend huh? What I will tell them is to go do what they love to do, auto racing, pubbing at the club, golfing (I call it flog, that golf backwards, that about how I play!) or going to church and you will find folks of like interests and then attraction will happen, naturally, without any real un-natural effort.

At 400 lbs. my fingernails were clean, my body was washed daily, my hair (what I have left) is washed daily and cut monthly, my mustache is professionally groomed, I shave everyday. I take great care to always present a clean, well groomed and professional image. I also a Southern Gospel Bass Singer, I have to look and smell good because sometime I’m in very close quarters (lot’s of hugging and kisses from folk's who enjoy this form of music) and I just cannot be any other way. My wife is exactly the same way, except she doesn't shave every day. :D

By the way at 340 going lower, my posture is as bolt upright as I can manage, I just have a command, always have since military school as a 8 year old, an Eagle Scout, Airborne Ranger (Green Baret-Vietnam Era, before it was cool)and a State Police Officer. Duh! how could I be any different.

When I leave a room, I want the others to say wow! being around Jimmy was fun, or he made me feel good, or I love to hear him sing, not that they are glad my stinking carcass is out of the room, I want to make folks glad they met me not glad I’m gone. It’s just the way I’ve chosen to be, and what I strive for.

I work at that every day, but if someone doesn’t warm up to me , I don’t bother them with it, I just move on to kinder gentler spirits who appreciates me for what and who I am, besides "If you don't Believe in Angles, then you haven't heard me sing!" (I just couldn't not add that).

Be well, keep losing the weight, but you'll never be any more beautiful that you already are. :D

cassborn
Wed, Feb-20-02, 08:04
I used to hate the fact that men are attracted to the physical first and then they get to know you for who you are. I don’t understand how some men can’t get past the physical to see the true person.
About 70-100lbs ago that used to be a problem for me. When I was in my teens and looking more like I was twenty-something I used to get so much attention because of my body(I had quite the figure), but I was not ready for that kind of attention. I was terrified of what men wanted from me based on how my body looked. I figured out quickly that men were less attracted to overweight woman. I began packing on the pounds somewhat unconscious of what I was doing.
When I was twenty I went on a diet and lost eighty pounds and with each pound I lost the number of men that would pursue me would increase. At one point it was so bad that I was afraid to leave my house. I lived in Boston at the time and I used to take the T (public transportation) to get to work. Some days when I didn’t have the fight in me I would take a taxi. Needless to say within a short amount of time I gained even more weight back. I was so afraid that men just wanted my body and didn’t care anything about who I is was or what was important to me.

I met a man when I was about 250 pounds who fell in love with me. I personally think that I was attractive even at that high weight, as did he. We have been married for six years and now have two small children. I now weight 315 pounds and we have a great relationship. I accept that my husband is attracted to my body and that the thinner I get the more attractive I will become to him. It is the same way that I become more attracted to him when he is considerate and meets my emotional needs. I wish I understood that then; that this how men are not good or bad, this is just how men are. All I needed to do was wait for the man that would see me for me and not just for my body. I could have spared myself the hurt of becoming overweight and unhappy.

I believe that it is import to embrace the newfound interest that people may have in us as we lose weight. We each have to find what is appropriate for us at the time and pass up what does not meet our needs, but this time advances wont send us back to self-sabotage, on their behalf.

Victoria
Wed, Feb-20-02, 09:20
Lessara,
I think it's more about your being available now, and not about whether you've lost weight. Aren't you recently single? This guy has probably always liked you and now that you are available he feels free to say so. ;) Victoria

Lessara
Wed, Feb-20-02, 12:02
I think you hit it on the head! That's so true! I've only been divorced for two months and I only just came back to my group of friends a month ago. Come to think of it, he did ask how Alan and I were and I told him of our divorce. (It was mutal and no hard feelings)... He has wonderful morals and that probably is why he waited till I was divorce and not just separated!! Thanks Victoria!

Lessara
Wed, Feb-20-02, 12:18
I just wanted to let you that I enjoy all your posts! They are full of life and humor. I would be quite surprised that anyone would ever forget meeting you! I look forward to reading what you are up to. I won't forget you! You are terrific! :)

Jimsgems
Thu, Feb-21-02, 20:03
Lessara,

Dear One, Thank you for your sweet comment's. My personality and my directness and general candor is a polarizing behavior, you either love me or you leave screaming! Doesn't leave too much room in the middle. I got over it a very long time ago. Life is just too short to dance to bad music or with ugly women.

You are very right about Green (sorry Kermit), my #4 Son is a funeral director, mortician and embalmer, he assures me that being green sucks, and that it not a good sign! :D

Well, I said I was gonna be back after I saw my doctor today…I went today to review my last blood work and physical, being that it was a free visit (I don't have insurance yet), he's just a genuine good guy and so is his partner, it was short.

Results I figured were OK, and I thought I had stalled in my weight loss at about 42 lbs. The reality was even stunning to me. My BP=138/72, HDL/LDL=100, Pulse: 62, Blood Glucose=120.

I stepped on his scale dreading it, (I had not weighed in over a month)and he sent me down the hall to another doctor's office to double check using their scale, just to be sure... 317 lbs! I started 398 lbs. on December 2, 2001 and 81 day's later, I have lost 81 lbs!

I am so pleased with myself and the job I'm doing, only 79 lbs. to go to my goal of 240. I left smiling and then sat my Jeep in the parking lot and sobbed, this time with joy!!

I just wanted to say hello, see how you all are doing , share the good news and wish for health and great wealth to share.

I'm gonna update my profile next. :D

BaileyWS
Thu, Feb-21-02, 23:51
Jim ... I'm so happy for you. And I can't believe it ... a pound a day?!?!?! Wow! That's amazing ... and your blood work and vitals are so healthy! Good work.

I'm envious. There are times I really wish I were male (they tend to lose so much faster and easier ... and can be at goal at 240 <G>) But then, I decide, I like it better the way I am ... :)

I'm doing well myself, I have to admit. I was afraid I'd be stalled at 240 for years -- well, at least months. As it turned out the stall lasted about 5 weeks. But I've left that number for good. I've been weighing every morning pretty consistently at 231, 232, or 233 for the last week or so. But, that means that I've come down just about 10 pounds since Christmas ... so, in perspective, that's pretty good. And I didn't gaine weight by going too far off this woe during my surgery. And I'm hypothyroid now and still not gaining ... so there's a plus too.

The doc upped my thyroid meds this week and we decided not to pursue and further treatment for the thyroid cancer. So now, it's just a matter of getting my hormones back up to a normal range ... in a month I should be back to feeling great.

Jimsgems
Fri, Feb-22-02, 00:54
Wendy;

You are so right, men tend to loose weight almost twice as fast a women, everything being equal, though it seldom is equal. I'm glad you guy's are women, I'd look pretty funny with breasts, well... I mean beautiful breast's mine were big but somehow it was just different and I'm gonna get myself in trouble here, I'm gonna stop writing now.

I'll actually be somewhat "thinner" believe it or not, I've never been flabby fat (Endomorphs tend toward the flabby tag, pear shaped, don't mean to offend anyone, I won't go there) Being a mesomorph..."being powerfully built, tending to be both bony and large structured humanoid", yeh! that's me and obviously an IQ, after I finish this post of well less than 100 points.

240 lbs. was where I was as a police officer and power lifter, though at this point in my life, I'm just not interested in either, I'd settle for being able to walk a mile w/o pain, heck, I'd go for ten feet and without the weight my legs, knee's and back is getting better. 14 year's ago I was run over by a fleeing felon ending my law enforcement career and the resulting pain and complications, has not been too much fun.

I have promised my son that when I get to 240 lbs. we will both go skydiving, it will be his first time and for me having been a Airborne Ranger (Green Beret) during Vietnam (When it wasn't cool), it will be my last of 148 jumps, until I die (that will be 149!), but that's another story for another time.

bsayne
Fri, Feb-22-02, 00:59
Jim, you are amazing! I got so happy when I saw your numbers, I could just feel the emotion and pride that must have enveloped you! Congratulations and a great big pat on that "growing smaller" back! This Army brat should of known a military stickler when she heard him! It's a special group of grammer school kids who know what "clean the latrine" means! Scouts too...That one is dear to my heart...Wow, so many accomplishments...I am hopeful my youngest will attain Eagle in the next couple of years!

Wendy...you have come a long way and are still making such good progress, even with the set backs...glad they haven't brought you down! I am so glad that you are healing. I too have to remind myself...slow is still movement...there is comfort in knowing in time all things will resolve. I often remind myself that my body isn't necessarily on the same schedule as my psychie!! Doesn't mean it won't happen, just can't tap my toes to the hurry up tune! I know what you mean....the trade off for being a man...I'll stick it out..I like my curves!

The best is enjoying better health, all during the process!

WTG! What a group!

Beth

Jimsgems
Fri, Feb-22-02, 02:21
Thank you Beth, I am surrounded and in the company of such wonderful and tender folks, it makes me proud. As you know Beth, if I talk the talk without being able to walk the walk I would just be a fraud.

Wendy, I look at it this way, I hit a plateau that lasted for 18 years! ;)

I'm a lot wiser and better equipped now, I know that if I personally "slow down or plateau" again just add additional sources of fat to my WOE!!!
Still just doesn't sound right, but hey, it works!

My dear and loving wife... the same one who play's a worn out copy(not even on CD!) of "Get-A-Job" at full blast every morning for my wake up call, the same one who says "I married you for better or worse, just not for lunch!", ya know the one who cook's me three scrambled egg's every morning, in real butter even, got me a special treat for morning... Jimmy Dean "Hot" Saugage patties twice the size of silver dollars and extra fat bacon, hey, go figure. She can't stand to see me put Vietnamese Style Fermented Fish Sauce, I can't spell Nuc'mom and too tired to go get the bottle, (I learned to like it while I spent two tour's in Vietnam, you can put that stuff on rotting meat and it tastes "just like chicken")or catsup and Tobasco, red or green Sause on my egg's just to add a little kick to it, all my kid's (4 boy's) and grandkids(9 of them)love to have breakfast with me. My new motto may have to be "eat more fat, loose more weight", just kidding.

Love ya all, I'm blithering, so it's time to go to bed. Please tell me more sometimes about being an Army Brat sometime and just pray that your son's troop and it's leaders guide him to a point where acheivment becomes the journey and not just a goal. Eagle Scouting isn't for everyone, it has to be a fun and rewarding journey, otherwise it just isn't fun. I didn't like school, because I was forced to do it and I'd better do it well or I wasn't going to get into West Point. I did and I hated it, at that time I wanted to be a soldier not a collage student, it took me 15 years messing with getting my BS degree, my MS took five and my Phd. two, I finish in June. I think I figured out how to enjoy it, did you know you can get grant's for writing reports on why Diamond's are only formed naturally by nature deep in the Earth under extream of heat and pressure. NO REALLY! Just how much fun is this? My MS is in gemology, so that one was a natural. But that's another subject for another time.

Gator
Fri, Feb-22-02, 07:12
Hi Jim,

I've enjoyed reading your posts, and upon reading your latest one, couldn't help noticing some interesting parallels in our lives.

I too was in the military during the VietNam war, but served 6 years on Nuclear Submarines, chasing those Ruskies around the Mediterranean, and other things I probably still can't talk about.
We ate some pretty rough food too, when underwater for several months at a time. Powdered eggs and green kool-aid for breakfast, and green bologna for lunch. Yum! I currently work for the Navy as a civilian.

You're into Gemology, huh? I am past president of the Mississippi Gulf Coast Gem and Mineral club, my specialty being gem cutting (Faceting). I cut emeralds, sapphires, synthetics, anything but a diamond (That is another discipline entirely). I have demonstrated gem cutting at various gem and mineral shows throughout the south. It's a great hobby. I have decided to keep it strictly as a hobby, and have opted not to pursue any commercial endeavors with it.

I also built and maintain the website for "The Rock Peddler", a lapidary supply company, near Boston, Mass (www.rockpedler.com).

Several years ago, I was into weight lifting, and got to where I was in pretty good shape, but that was then, and have started working out again, now that I'm losing this doggone fat.

You have me beat on wives, though! I am still on my first one (29 years now), and have 3 great kids. My oldest son attended Xavier University in Cincinnati on an Army ROTC scholarship, and was just commissioned as a second Lieutenant this past May. He was on the Ranger team throughout ROTC, and went through Northern Warfare training in Alaska, and will be attending Airborne training in Georgia soon. He is "Gung-Ho", and I am extremely proud of him.

We started out at about the same weight, and are now at about the same place in weight loss.

Well, we've both spouted enough hot air to melt the polar ice cap, so............

Have a great day!

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Gator
Fri, Feb-22-02, 07:16
Need to correct a typo on the link of my above post. It is www.rockpeddler.com. Sorry!

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Lessara
Fri, Feb-22-02, 11:31
I am an Air Force Brat. My Dad was last stationed in Offut AFB in Nebraska, he's retired now. I'm very proud of him! :cool:

BigDogTimC
Fri, Feb-22-02, 15:37
That is fantastic progress. Congratulations. Weep away.

This is my first post on this thread. I *never* thought that I would categorize myself in the "Triple Digits Club". Never.

I thought "only really, really huge people who are really far gone" need to lose 100 pounds.

Well, I woke up one morning and realized, I'm one of them. I need to lose 100 pounds. 112, really, to get to my goal.

And I'm not "really huge". And I'm definitely not "really far gone". But I was now in *that category*. What a bigot I had been. I'd always excused my weight (about 80 to 90 pounds overweight) by justifying, "well, I'm not as heavy as so-and-so who has 100 pounds to lose..." Shame on me for thinking that. Being 100+ pounds overweight is NOT really far gone -- we're valuable and productive people who have simply made a choice to "be all that we can be, but less of it".

We (and yes, that includes me!) are not really far gone!

I realize now that there is NO point at which any of us is "far gone". We are who we are, and if we've decided to be "less of who we are" then more power to us.

A month ago I had 112 pounds to lose. Now I have 91.

Dang, Jim... if I lose 81 pounds in 81 days, I'll be withing 10 pounds of my goal!!???!!!

I wanna be like Jim! LOL

With admiration,
BigDog

Jimsgems
Fri, Feb-22-02, 18:08
Not to make fun at your weight goal, but, na-na-na!!! Now that’s just rude! I’m kidding, I was just pokin' ya a little. Life can be pretty funny, My God is constantly laughing his butt (if He has one) off at my antics. We use an aphorism around our home, I’ll share it with you… " We Plan and God laugh’s".

In my brain research era, one of the things I learned was "we get to be what we resist". There I go again being profound! That might be true, but look at it again anyway… "we get to be what we resist". Re-worded for the Justices of the Florida Supreme Court… "if you hate rich folks, you’ll never be rich", it’s the same exact mechanism, I spoke about in another post about how our brain is wired as a specie. OK, it’s been a while… don’t think of a Orange. I know you have to first think of an Orange, in order to not think about it. It’s really very simple stuff, not too much at all. We are all individual mechanisms and yet totally different . I think my God has a since of humor, for sure.

I am very grateful for all of you and the support, the spirit and the great joy of a bunch of loser’s, even those of us who hit a plateau that lasted for 18 year’s, boy did that ever stretch out my birthday suit!!!!

Take care and be well.

Gator, they only told you it was bologna, I don’t think we really want to know, huh? BTW I love the photo.

bsayne
Sat, Feb-23-02, 01:32
Just got back from the ER in SF...my dear sweet Truck mechanic HB was run over by one of a set of doubles at work today. Thank the Lord most of him made it to the center area and more damage wasn't done. They are observing him overnight and so far a fractured Fibula and a chipped area below the rt knee cap are the only bones affected...Lots of soft tissue damage, abrasions & bruising like I've never seen before, but no organ involvement yet...hopefully at all. They said more than once, there's an angel on his shoulder and they can't believe the damage he sustained isn't more severe...me too!

As this is our second scare in less than a year (he just had by-pass last march) I am scheduling a vacation (maybe 2) for as soon as he is able. Time to start making the time to get away and enjoy each other...The first 24hrs are still critical as internal damages are tough to guage on you big guys...So please, if you would, keep us in your thoughts and prayers. You can never have to many angels at the ready.

Yesterday is gone, Today is a gift from God, and Tomorrow is promised to no one.

Thank you for all your cheer and well wishes, I will try to keep you posted.

Beth

P.S. Hug your loved ones today!

Victoria
Sat, Feb-23-02, 09:07
Beth,
Oh my! Your poor hubby! My prayers are with him. Thank God he didn't get more squished. Keep us posted. Hoping for a strong recovery. ;)

I enjoy reading your posts Jim. You are too entertaining!!! And I am so happy for your progress. That is just amazing, 81 pounds so fast. Your wife sounds like a fun gal...a real gem.

Well, gotta go people...but I enjoy reading all of you. Victoria

Jimsgems
Sat, Feb-23-02, 14:20
Sorry to hear.... Having been run over by a truck too I have certain empathy and certainly prayers too. Be well, be Happy and be Safe.

ldypgmr
Sat, Feb-23-02, 22:11
I hope your husband will be fine...you are definately in my thoughts and prayers.

Dee

Marion13
Tue, Feb-26-02, 03:20
Dear Beth

Hope your hubby is on the road to recovery, it must be a very stressful time for you. I understand what you mean about the by-pass. My DH had a quadruple by-pass three years ago and then 8 months ago had two total knee replacements. A vacation sounds like a wonderful idea. Make sure you take care of yourself as well as your husband, we tend to forget how much accidents and operations impact on us as well.


Maz

K-Louise
Thu, Feb-28-02, 02:24
Hi everyone.

I'm home from the USA, had a fine time and successful business meetings.

Beth, dear lady, I hope your husband is mending :rose:

Well, I stayed on plan, so am very proud of myself for that, even on the long flights. Would you believe that after not losing andything for a month, I just got back from a week in the USA, and find myself down 5 pounds in that week.

I didn't count calories, I didn't count carbs. I ate a ton of salad, and veges, fish and meat. I ate advantage bars, SF chocolate (every day), SF sweets, pork rinds, drank coffee (real stuff) and diet sodas. I made the decision to stay on plan, but be relaxed with all that stuff. I can barely believe i broke a one month stall, and lost five pounds (and its stayed off too since I got home.

Amazing. Remaining more relaxed about it all. I learned a lesson, was obsessing way too much.

I loved the advantage bars. I'm hoping to be able to get them here in Australia soon through GNC, but if not will organise an american girlfriend to ship me some each month.

So... only 3 pounds to go till I pass my first personal goal and 2% to a new photo :D (this one is way too serious).

I'm starting to see the difference in the mirror now, which is nice.

Hope everyone is well.

Kim

ldypgmr
Thu, Feb-28-02, 06:47
Hi Kim

Congrats on the 5 pounds. The Whoosh Fairy LIVES!

:angel:

Glad that you enjoyed your trip and are home safe. Yes, I think I obsess tooo much over eating everything right and being "perfect" on this WOE.

Keep up the great work.

Dee

Victoria
Thu, Feb-28-02, 09:26
K-Louise,
Glad to see you back! And 5 pounds thinner! I'm glad you had a great trip and enjoyed your time here. I love seeing your new pictures....so are you putting up new ones coinciding with weight loss goals? That sounds like a great idea.

Beth,
How is your husband doing? Continuing to pray for him. You both are in my thoughts and prayers... ;) Victoria

bsayne
Fri, Mar-01-02, 22:29
Just wanted to drop a quick note and say Thank you to all who have kept us in their thoughts. While we are not out of the woods yet, deep vein thrombosis is a continued threat, we are as blue as we can get and hopefully will get better everyday, with no complications! As my day is now a full fledged circus I will drop back when I can...who get's the next round of meds?

Congrats K-Louise...Isn't it lovely to get a reaffirmation from yourself that what your doing is working!

Take care all,

Beth

K-Louise
Sat, Mar-09-02, 05:05
Hi all, after 3 months of strugging with Atkins, I have decided to give it up in favour of a local plan - FatLocity.

I went to see a local group - www.pictureofhealth.com.au and had a personal plan done to suit my requirements. It is a ketogenetic plan, low carb that is, so not giving up the low carb, just need to try another variety to see some results. 11 pounds over 3 months (which is what I lost on Atkins) just doesn't seem enough for someone as heavy as me. I have lost only 3 pounds over the past 2 months.

I'm starting FatLocity in the morning. Starting at 280 pounds, so eager to see some faster results than was getting on Atkins. I can see already why this plan will work better for me. It is much more scientific approach to low carb. One thing I have learned is that a low carb diet should not necessarily mean its a high protein diet, and at the end of the day, when you are insulin resistant like I am, you cannot eat as much as you want until you feel "satisfied" - damn I could eat all day.

Beth, I hope you and yours are doing well?

Take care
Kim

Victoria
Sat, Mar-09-02, 10:40
K-Louise,
The important thing is that you ARE losing. I hope the new program works for you. I just read Protein Power and they were emphasizing the need to do resistance exercising...lifting weights to build muscle. Because muscle burns fat quicker and helps raise your metabolism. I wonder if the Fatlocity incorporates that aspect along with the low carbing. Because I think that would speed things up a bit. The program sounds a bit expensive, but maybe a little more structure and support will be helpful. I hope we'll still see you here. ;) Victoria

K-Louise
Sat, Mar-09-02, 15:40
Thanks for your comments Victoria :wave:

Exercise is certainly something the PoH folk have been "encourging" me to build up, and I have promised an hour a day of anything that gets me moving to start with.

I believe this program will work for me. It makes sense it will work for me, working with/around my insulin resistance. Given that I am Type II diabetic, and NEED to lose weight I don't think $100 is expensive at all (remember that's $US50). You get personalised plan and ongoing support whenever you want to contact them. At the end of the iniital 4 weeks, you get a personalised plan for ongoing. It incorporates exercise program, and advise on supplements) that can help, or not help.

Yes of course you will still see me here (although I'm hoping there will be "less of me" here ;) The new program is a low-carb program, and this is a general low-carb forum, not just for Atkins folk. There is a lot of useful general low-carb information to be shared and learned regardless of the program we are following :D

Cheers
Kim

Jimsgems
Sat, Mar-09-02, 17:29
You all are in my prayers and thought. I will cross the line sometime next week and be below 300 lbs for the first time in 18 years on the way to my goal weight of 245 lbs.

The support, e-mail’s and well wishes have served to support me during this transition time in my life, Thank you all.

I ask also for your prayers as I enter my third month of unemployment, my Dear, sainted wife insists she married me for Better or Worse, but not for Lunch! We are very fortunate to have a few months income in the bank, even though it bites deeply in our reserves. I was just "Down Sized", that is my former company was just bought out and everyone over 45 was let go! Life is not fair, but life is always good, no matter what. Thank you.

In respect to which WOE you chose, it doesn’t matter, the bottom line is do what works for you, I’m using Atkins because it works for me, I tried WW and it didn’t work for me. So… do what works for you. I’m so excited for all of us and the success we are having together. That’s wonderful.

...and, when I make my goal weight I'm buying a real one! The car not a hyerp! :yay:

ldypgmr
Sat, Mar-09-02, 21:19
Jim

Man, I feel for you being out-of-work. I hope you find something soon. Been there, done that and know the stress and tension involved.

I am pulling for you being under 300 pounds. Let me know so I can party with you. How wonderful, You will feel great.

Dee

Jimsgems
Sat, Mar-09-02, 23:42
Dee;

Thank you. It hasn't been a vacation, but... "where He guides, He provides", I have to believe that. I'm interviewing, so far not much. When you are a 55 year old white guy in America or anywhere for that matter, it doesn't get easier.

Thanks, again. Jim

Victoria
Sun, Mar-10-02, 08:40
K-Louise,
That does sound great. I must have misread the website. I thought it said $199 for starters. Fifty bucks is reasonable. I myself don't follow Atkins...so any program that works for you is great. I was wondering if your diabetes has lessoned since you've been eating low carb? I've heard of people actually getting off meds because of low carb. So you start Monday. We'll be watching and hoping for the best for you.

Jim,
Out of work...sorry to hear that. Hopefully something will turn up soon. ;) Victoria

DeeX2
Sun, Mar-10-02, 20:05
I just recently started low carbing again. I did it once about a six months ago, but with three kids and husband who loves carbs, it's hard. For some reason they hate my noodleless lasanga! :eek:

I have over a hundred pounds to lose, I think. To be honest, it has been so long since I was thin, I can't remember what weight I looked good at. I know it's not the weight Im at, that's for sure!

I am so glad I found this group, I need all the support I can get. I don't get much support on this at home. Everyone, except my mother who is a type II diabetic, thinks I should just eat less and cut out the fat. Of course, they don't think I have been there and done that, got a closet full of t-shirts to prove it! But Im going to do it this time!!!!
:cheer:

Victoria
Mon, Mar-11-02, 09:10
DeeX2,
Good to see you here! I know you'll find this forum to be very helpful and informative. So many people here to listen and help each other.

It is hard to live in a household where the others still want sugar and other no-no's. But it gets easier as the pounds and inches start dropping off. I have learned to buy things for the kids that aren't as tempting to me. But mostly they eat less sugary things, because now I feel that it's really not good for them either. I know my weakness is chocolate, so if I buy ice cream for them, it's always a different flavor...not something that would make me crazy. My husband will eat donuts in front of me...now. But at first he was more careful around me. Now he knows that it doesn't make me sway. But I do tell him what NOT to eat around me. So it's liveable. Hope you can work out HOW to do this, around your family. ;) Victoria

tangible
Mon, Mar-11-02, 22:28
Hi, just logged on, first time.. been on Atkins 1 week, against all odds.
Still trying to believe I've neglected myself this much for this long!

I'm anxious to remember what it feels like again to move & breath effortlessly.

Marion13
Mon, Mar-11-02, 22:43
Hi Tangible

Welcome!!!! I truly hope you find as much inspiration and support from this forum as I have. Have you started your own journal to plot your progress and list what food you have been eating? That way we can drop by and see how you are going. You have taken the first step and I know you will succeed.

Maz

tangible
Mon, Mar-11-02, 23:19
No, haven't started a journal yet. Actually doing something is one thing for me, but "taking the :roll: time" to write about it almost seems like duplicating my actions.

May be I just need to slow down & give it a try. How does this benefit from your experience?

Dizz
Tue, Mar-12-02, 09:44
Continued repeative active is necessary to learning. I find that doing the journal helps re-enforce the way of eating. It can also become a useful tool of accountability for those who need it. :)

lmccarty96
Tue, Mar-12-02, 09:59
I was told I should check this group out and I'm glad I did. I have 114 pounds to lose so I'm on of you triple digits people. This is my first week on Atkin's and it's going good so far. Having a little withdrawl from carbs and pop though. Keep it up everybody and you guys are awesome!!!!

Jimsgems
Tue, Mar-12-02, 11:20
Almost sounds like a Bobby McFarren song! When you start anything, doesn't really matter you are going to have to deal with the mind and body's reaction. Carbs and pop are both more addictive because we like them, and the caffeine is also addictive if not physically, mentally .

I've lost 100+ lbs since Dec 2, 2001 (100 days) I know that men loose weight faster than women, sorry, I’ve sat in Weight Watchers and had the "pack of women", glare at me, especially after a 15 lb week! I still have a two liter of diet soft drink everyday, and I know the day is coming where I have to cut that out, especially as I get closer to my desired weight, but it will be the last to go. I also admit…"I’m a "COOKIE QUEER!" Each time I walk by a plate of sugar cookies with the thick frosting, they call my name and each time I’ve made a choice to not eat one or five! I have to choose which is more important for me and I do that often.

I am very glad you are here with us and warmly add my welcome, good luck, good decisions and relax induction is only for a little while. Then you can add back in some carbs and you will likely notice how they make you feel icky!

Lessara
Tue, Mar-12-02, 11:38
Grrrrr! ;)
I wish I was able to lose like that!
But with all I deal with slow lose is
a GOOD thing. Lets the mind match
the body! :)

Jimsgems
Tue, Mar-12-02, 12:17
My body is getting better, but I am loosing my mind faster. :D

lmccarty96
Tue, Mar-12-02, 13:08
Thanks for the support guys. It actually helped me today. I went to my grandma's house and she had fresh-baked brownies. I wanted one so bad that I could taste it. I DIDN'T EAT EVEN A CRUMB THOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So thanks again.

Lessara
Tue, Mar-12-02, 15:46
What a great new picture!! :dazzle:

BaileyWS
Tue, Mar-19-02, 23:14
Wow ... you can sure fall off this woe quickly! After the surgery I was pretty easy on myself -- allowing ice cream for sore throats and such ... then it was time for vacation ... I thought "you only live once!" I was still grieving somewhat about the thyroid cancer and such (human mortalitiy issues, you know). And lost all desire to stick to LCing on vacation.

We went to a resort in Puerto Vallarta ... the food was great ... I started with a dessert, then a little pasta, then pastry for breakfast, and then ... whoosh ... I was a gone ... back to old addictions so fast! I was only gone for a week (11th - 18th) but I gained 10 pounds! This morning -- the first morning home -- I weighed in at 242 ...

So now I'm back to induction for the next week or so ... And I'm asking myself, "was it worth it?" I really enjoyed a few of the pieces of bread and desserts I ate ... but I know I didn't love all of it ... sometimes I was just eating because it was there. I learned that eating that "old" way gave me the same "old" digestion problems: heartburn, gas, etc. I didn't realize life had been virtually indigestion free when I was LCing.

I guess it was an experiment ... to see if LCing really works ... OK I know I've seen the scale go down, and you all sharing your stories, but sometimes a woman just HAS to see for herself <G>

Now I know ... Now I know the price I pay for eating that way ... and now I can make better (I hope) decisions when I'm traveling. I'm leaving again in 3 weeks and this time I'll be away for a month. It, at least, is not a resort with unlimited desserts.

Live and learn.

Jimsgems
Wed, Mar-20-02, 01:18
BaileyWS,

No shame, use what you learned and move on. I know that when I finish this current run and I step on the scales at 240 lbs, I could have a heart attack and drop dead! But... what if I didn't?

My Dear Wife made a point with me, I'm now at 100+ pound weight loss, we were at Home Depot picking up some gardening items and I walked by the cement and sand area and I picked up two 50 bags of sand, I was staggered at the weight! No wonder my back and knees hurt! Then Linda said something I won't soon forget, she informed me that "for each pound of body fat your heart has to pump through 9 miles of veins and capillaries!" So for me that is 900 miles(!) of work my heart doesn’t have to do every day. I think that’s fascinating, I checked with my doctor and he verified the number. Think about it… At the moment of death, will we wish we did more when we could have to extend by only moments? If not then what about quality? Dear
No shame, use what you learned and move on. I know that when I finish this current run and I step on the scales at 240 lbs, I could have a heart attack and drop dead! But... what if I didn't?

Bailey, I’m not singling you out sweet lady, I needed to hear it again myself, if anyone got anything out of it good, if not… well, never mind!

I’m sorry you have to do induction again though, it wasn’t too pleasant the first time for me. Good Luck, you have my prayers too. Jim

BaileyWS
Wed, Mar-20-02, 07:48
Thanks Jim ...

Oh, I'm not too hard on myself ... I really do think of it as a learning experience. I am in this for life ... so a detour now and then won't delay the journey too much.

And some good news ... after one day of induction and water drinking ... down 4 pounds this morning!

Jimsgems
Wed, Mar-20-02, 11:15
That's Wonderful, keep it up. I know I hit a plateau a week ago, and I upped the fat content about 10% (which is a lot) and I've started down again buut slower this time. The "free fat" is gone!

See ya later Pretty Lady.

BaileyWS
Mon, Apr-01-02, 17:24
See the new picture?

I did it! Remember the goal -- 240 -- and horseback riding? I did it!

about 6 years ago my daughter and I wanted to ride horses at a stable in Michigan where we were living then. We were turned away 1) she was two years too young and 2) I was about 30 pounds too heavy (that stable had a weight requirement of under 240 pounds). I told Katie -- you gain the years and I'll lose the pounds -- she kept her end of the bargain <G>. It took me 6 years -- but I finally kept mine, too.

When we were in Puerto Vallarta for spring break, all three of us went on a 3 hour trail ride into the mountains to the waterfall -- yeah!!!

ldypgmr
Mon, Apr-01-02, 18:11
Wendy

Horse back riding is one of my goals as well. IF I can get under 200 by August, I can ride the horses at the camp I am going to...So I am working hard on the 59 pounds.

Great going, you look terrific on the back of the horse!

Dee

:wave:

Jimsgems
Mon, Apr-01-02, 19:13
Wendy;

That's great!

Jim

Cheryl R
Mon, Apr-01-02, 23:02
You go girl
That made me feel so wonderful reading that...horseback riding isn't my goal...but I did go with my youth group to ride a ride at marine world and the thingy ma bob didn't fit down and latch over my belly....this is a bad example though, because I was terrified by that ride....but any way...I am so happy for you....

Fruit for though for me now, I am going to think of something I can't do because of my weight and then I will strive for that.

some people go for marithons and such...I will be pleased if I can ever walk a 5 mile walk in less than 4 hours.

I am just so tickled for you...!!!!!!!!!! :D :D

Traveller
Thu, Apr-04-02, 12:29
well i just thought I add my name to the growing group that has to lose over 100 lbs. At the start 3weeks ago I had 113 lbs to lose . I am so happy to have found this WOE. Never hungry, never thirsty lol.
258/236/145 :wave:

Joyeux
Thu, Apr-04-02, 19:03
Hi there Mari

I am just joining in since I am also needing to lose more than 100 lbs - and I am on the way there since March 15th 2002. :spin:

I think this thread is a great idea to serve as an encouragement to each other on our journeys to better health!

Keep up with your positive mindset and you will only succeed at every junction you cross! The biggest success you have had or will have, is the original decision to do something to improve life for you - bravo! The weight losses are only reminders of that original success in your change of thinking. It takes honesty, courage and integrity to make such a major life change and press on with it.

/hugs
Joy
:wave:

In_Control
Thu, Apr-04-02, 19:44
Just wanted to add myself to the 100 pounds plus club. I'm on week #3 now. Joy, you started 3 days before me ... from your stats, you are doing GREAT! Congratulations!

3 1/2 more pounds and I will have less than 100 to lose. :sunny: I'm truly looking forward to reaching that milestone!

This new WOL is going to take sooo much commitment. But ... all it takes is CONTROL....right? For so long I've allowed myself to be OUT OF CONTROL! But it's time to take my life back. There's so much I want to do, and I don't want what I put in my mouth to be the reason I don't do it.

This forum is GREAT. I have already benefited from other's successes! Thank You!!!!

coyote
Tue, Apr-16-02, 19:47
Just a little intro...

I have to say that reading these posts give me an adrenalin rush. So much success!!

I just started the atkins diet just over a week ago and am surprised so far. I need/want/wish to lose 111 pounds.

I've decided to surround myself with positive people and this forum is definitely going to be part of it. I just love how supportive everyone is towards each other.

I realize that I'm not just changing what I eat, but I'm also changing how I think. I don't think you can be truly successful unless you do both.

Here's wishing that we all reach our goals. :D

bsayne
Sat, Apr-20-02, 02:01
Wow!! Welcome newcomers and Howdy to you prized and cherished souls of wisdom! Long time out I know, still have hands full with caring for the the dear HB, but as he is finally and luckily slowly progressing...(should be walking again in afew more weeks), I really needed a kick in the seat of the pants and afew smiles so here I am!

I'm only (luckily) a few pounds up and I am determined to make it past Lunch tomorrow with the right choices...just needed the encouragement of all of your motivational words and to get back to basics with a plan in hand!

Great picture Jim and Hearty congratulations on your ongoing and inspirational wt loss...any good news on the job search yet? Been sending you lots of "white light" that something comes your way befitting your many incredible talents.

Wendy, that horseback riding picture is great! I'm looking forward to riding at camp this year too and hoping the horse doesn't end up wearing my "camisole" when we get to the top of the hill! I'm looking forward to having a "choice" in riding companions again!

Better run..early Dr's Appt tomorrow...Thanks to all who contribute!

Bsayne!

Victoria
Sat, Apr-20-02, 18:35
Jim? Is that you? Wow, amazing picture, again. You are an inspiration!

Beth, so good to see you here again! I was thrilled when I saw your name listed. So glad to hear things are improving for your hubby.

Well, just wanted to say hi. And announce that I have a new baby granddaughter!!! She was 9 lbs. 2 oz. Yep, we have good sized babies. And she is the loveliest. Truly. ;) Victoria

lennon
Sun, Apr-21-02, 09:50
i am trying the bernstein diet for a month so that i can at least
be encouraged by SOME weight lose...
recently i was in philly...everyone was pigging out on donuts and cheesesteaks, drinking beer and wings...
i was so good
had the fiber, no sugar and a lot of salads
got home, weighed myself, gained 2 pounds
how are you suppose to go on after that
i felt so lost and helpless

i almost feel like giving up
then i think about my kids
why is this so hard
it is the year 2002 and people should
not be having trouble with their weight
we are all suppose to be healthly with
hovercrafts, right?

any support would be greatly appreciated
thanks
lennon :confused:

Victoria
Sun, Apr-21-02, 10:08
I don't know what the "Bernstein Diet" is, is it low carb? I thought of several things, that might help. The 2 pounds may just be from not drinking enough water. I know I have a hard time drinking enough water when I'm out and about. And when you don't drink enough, you tend to retain water...hence the weight gain. So get your water out and guzzle. Second, are you just eating salads? I think you probably could of had some wings, if they weren't breaded. You need to eat enough so that your body doesn't think you're starving yourself. If your body doesn't get enough...it holds onto everything it can because it's preparing for a famine. So it could have been just not drinking and eating enough.

Good for you for not indulging in the donuts and junk food. Consider looking at it as a lifestyle change and not a diet. Cutting out the sugar and junk food will always be better for your body than eating the junk that harms your body. And in the long run, that will be more important to your health and your family than a month on a diet. You look like you've already lost quite a bit. So don't be discouraged. You can do it. Don't focus on just one week's loss or gain. Focus on learning how to eat right, the losses will come. ;) Victoria

ldypgmr
Sun, Apr-21-02, 10:08
Hi Lennon:

It is very easy to get discouraged. Why not look at the two pounds differently. Instead of looking at it as negative, try to see if there is some positive in the gain.

Did you increase you exercise this week? That could cause a net gain.

You traveled. When I sit alot and don't get enough exercise I have a water weight gain. Is this what is going on.

Staying on the WOE, when faced with tons of temptation is hard...You did great my friend. Maybe your body is getting ready for a BIG Whoosh! A couple of people have remarked that they see a small weight gain prior to a big whoosh.

By keeping positive thru the gains, you can keep your motivation.

Personally, I tell my self that the small stalls give the skin a chance to catch up to what the rest of the body is doing... :daze:

I too think that there should be a fat dump button on the human body...if we can make it to Mars, surely we can discover such a button. :D

Dee

:wave:

lennon
Sun, Apr-21-02, 12:06
thanks for all the words of encouragement!
this is really great
i know it will help me a lot
cause it already has

the Dr. Berstein's diet is very popular around here right now.
you go to their clinic and get vitamin B shots three times a
week...its low carb, low fat, high protien
it kind of scares me
its so rigid
but i promised myself i would do it for at least a month
just so that i can see some kind of a change
i get so discouraged so easily

i do notice that when i don't exercise that i don't feel as good and obviously lose as much
but it is hard for overweight people to excercise
sometimes i feel like everyone is staring at me
then other times i think
good get an eyeful
it won't be there for long!

just think
if society wasn't so critical
being 25 to 35 pounds overweight would be fine
and i would only have to lose about 50 more pounds
which sounds alot better than 70 to 100

i will let you all know about how i do at Dr. B's
i don't look forward to the shots in the bum!
(God knows i get enough of those at work!hehehe)

my first day is this wednesday
i will share with you the agony of the do and allllll the don'ts
thanks again
for being there for me
lennon :roll:

Darlene55
Mon, Apr-22-02, 00:12
Hello everyone!

I am just amazed at all I have read here! And I am so happy I have found this place!
I don't feel all alone now since I have been reading about a lot of people who need to lose a lot of weight like I have also! I have over 150 pounds to lose!!
It is a long Journey but I know I will make it to my distination! I have never had my mind set so determined like I have this past 3 months and going on 4 months now!

One of the things I tell myself everyday is:ONE DAY AT A TIME!
We only have one day to live at a time and so if we only think about what will be in each day as it comes and not think about the past or the future then we will make it to our goal!

I never thought I would see my diabetis #"s at a normal reading everyday.....and now they have become normal and I am so happy about this! So if any of U are reading this and U are a diabetic like me.....and U have not tried the Low carb way.....just do it and see the wonderful results!

Just wanted to share a bit of how I am doing it and how happy I am feeling now! And don't get me wrong.....I do have somedays I want to just stop.....but I will not ever go back to how I used to eat!! I WILL KEEP PUSHING ON AND ON.....NO MATTER WHAT!!

Good Luck everyone!! :wave:

tangible
Mon, Apr-22-02, 15:42
Hi all

I too sometimes get discouraged when "THE SCALES" don't move in the right direction! ( we give them all too much power, don't we?)

I was cooking up a storm for company yesterday & absentmindedly started eating the stuffing!

At least it brought a bad habit to my attention..eating while cooking! My first reactive thought was too continue for the rest of the day..then common sense caught me & said "You've been down that leary path before, don't go there!"

I did taste real icecream that night also & said, OK I remember what that tastes like, I'm OK.

Discovering why I want to go back is part of the change in this WOL also. Just 1 challenge at a time!

:daze:

Victoria
Wed, Apr-24-02, 09:09
Darlene,
Great news on your Blood sugar numbers. That is such great news. And I know as you continue you will see your weight numbers go down and be even more encouraged. Keep going everyone. :wave: Victoria

downrgr
Sat, May-04-02, 21:54
I have been on the carb diet for 15 weeks.....have lost 76 lbs...have not been in the 200 range for 18 years......would like to loose another 104 lbs. ...I am at 344 right now....started at 420...but I only lost 11 lbs. last month....hit a plateau....need some help....I REALLY stick to the diet....have only cheated 3 times....need some good advise...PLEASE ADVISE....Thanx....Greg...<*)}})><.....

PenclPushr
Sat, May-04-02, 22:20
Yep, when I get thru with this journey, I will be 128lbs lighter. I'm truly looking forward to it but know that it will take a year or two. I just have to be faithful and consistent to my woe.

Cheryl R
Sat, May-04-02, 22:37
Wow, this thread has gotten really busy while I was gone. I've been working to many hours this last few weeks to check in.

I am really encouraged by the enthusiasm I see here...I hope it's catchy.

Cheryl

BaileyWS
Sat, May-04-02, 23:48
I'm glad to be home ... in the literal sense, from a 4 week trip to Guatemala where I undertook and immersion experience to learn Spanish and something of the culture of Guatemala. I did learn Spanish, but much more ... it was a retreat, of sorts, a time to think, learn, pray, wonder, and give thanks. I will not soon forget the friendships as well as the amount of things I take for granted ... like silence, refrigeration, and medical care.

My time was filled with good and bad ... I had hot showers only when the flow was trickling ... I had diarrhea or stomach problems on and off for the whole 4 weeks ... twice, bad enough to seek medical treatment. I was pick-pocketed in the market. And the brother of the director of my school was shot and killed -- for a beeper and an inexpensive necklace -- in Guatemala city while I was there.

Now I am home in my air-conditioned home ... and listening to the stillness of the night ... having enjoyed a good steak dinner ... wow ... I am truly blessed.

I am still hoping my luggage finds its way to my home ... I would like to be able to give away the many gifts I brought home for people who helped make my trip happen ... but the suitcase is somewhere between here and there ...

I have returned to low carbing the minute I left the plane ... I anticipate a few hard weeks of cravings ... since I ate so much bread and fruit and sugar while I was away ... but I look forward to helping my intestines return to their more natural and healthy order ... and continuing my weight loss.

I will know more in the morning, when I weigh myself ... but it looks like I have continued to loose quite a bit while I was gone .. this afternoon I weighed 226 ... so that's 6 more pounds ...

People have joked, I could market "The Guatemalan Diet" and make millions by letting poeple eat foods tainted with ameobas and other strange bacteria ... it wasn't fun ... but at least, I am psyched to get back to LC ...

I will update my stats tomorrow ...

Wendy

Jimsgems
Sun, May-05-02, 00:57
BaileyWS;

Glad your safely back home, we forget how rough and brutal the world can be, we are very safe here by compairson to many parts of the 3rd world countries. I actually had gun battles and fire-fights while in Brasil, we had guards killed and wounded as well as bandits killed almost every week. It was in some ways like the old West, I imagine. When I was in South Africa, my family lives in a fortified walled compound with patroling guards armed with machine guns. When I was home, my 2nd cousin was shot and killed by a gang of Ters who wanted his BMW and Rolex. They gunned him down in daylight in the driveway to the compound. Now there are gates at both ends of the aproach road.

PenclPushr; Congrats for your progress, that is really nice and I bet you are feeling better too. Ya all be well, Blessings. Jim

Lisarubin
Sun, May-05-02, 07:22
Hey Everyone. THis site is too cool! I'm doing a Adkins kindda thing but find I get really grumppy on it. So I'm addin some carbs in my a.m. meal. The weight is coming off slow but at least it's coming off. I have done this before and the speed of lose was incredible. however i have read that if you do it again the lose slows down. Any other info on this phenomena??? :wave:

BaileyWS
Sun, May-05-02, 08:17
well, it's official ... no matter which way I stood on the scale this morning it read 225 ... that's a 7 pound loss these four weeks ... and a great way to re-start my LC eating (because the other way of losing is NOT the way to do it!). Not only am I seven pounds lighter, but I crossed the 50% mark! Wow ... that's a total of 67 pounds! Since last summer ... I feel good.

Wendy

Jimsgems
Sun, May-05-02, 11:57
Lisarubin;

Plateau-ing is perfectly normal in this process. Heck, I was on a plateau for 18 years!!! It happens at different points for different people but with Atkins style eating you can break a plateau several ways I’ve found. One is to add a little bit of carbs (up to 10 grams a day) and add lots more fat to your eating plan and then just keep on, keeping on until you body "gets" it and starts down again. Then you can cut them back again as long as you feel good when you do it or some prefer going back to induction levels for a short while. Everyone is different but some of the laws of losing will work for everyone at one time and/or another. I'm begining to think that a Plateau is your body and minds way of catching up with your desires! :D

After loosing 118 pounds since Dec 2, 2001, I plateaued for a month, but I didn’t break out in hives and get all worried, I just kept eating in my new way and this week I lost 7 pounds, be patient, It does work.

Gods Rich Blessings on you all and on your choosing to break the cycle of fat clothes and skinny clothes. My favorite quote by a woman at Weight Watchers is; "Well, at least my clothes don’t hurt me any more!!!". That says a lot. Keep On. Jim

Dizz
Sun, May-05-02, 20:10
Hi guys, I've been away for a while but ready to start back again. Still need to lose quite a bit but really needed a time away from the computer. Looking forward to starting up the journal again and getting to know everyone. Side note: When last I was around Jim was job shopping what's the good news??

ERSmith45
Sun, May-05-02, 21:32
I started low carbing on 3-20-02 and have lost 16 pounds. :clap: Not a bad start for an ol' fart... :agree: I started at a SHOCKING 322lbs! :Puke: I had not weighed myself in quite awhile, more from fear than anything else. :bash: I could feel the weight piling on. :skull: The not knowing :confused: finally got to me. I would have fallen off the scale, had I not already stepped off to see the final number! :eek:

This is my third time around with the battle of the bulge and it is the biggest one. I can remember when I hit the 200 mark 25 years ago for the first time during my first pregnancy. I was devastated to say the least! :cry: My ex-husband was no help either. He would bitch about the weight and then bake two lemon meringue pies. Then he would have the nerve to bitch because I wasn't helping him eat them, :confused: hence the use of EX-husband. :D

My current husband (#2, 15 years later) is too wonderful. :angel: I was 235lbs when we started dating and 250 by our wedding day. :doah: Four and a half years later at 306lbs he still has a smile on his face when he sees me. :bhug:

Jimsgems
Sun, May-05-02, 21:50
Dizz;

Glad you are back. Thank you for asking, Like I said; "Good News & Bad News..." First I'll tell the good news; I have been "hired" into a professional, full time, Southern Gospel Music Group. So right now I'm singing with Living Faith and working on songs for "Jericho". There is very little money, some expenses paid.

Singing Southern Gospel music is very fickle especially here in the West and California in particular. In the Bible Belt they pack concert halls and churches and an audience of 2,000+ people are common and here 200 is a full house. If you look at the simple economics of this it’s easy to see why. At $15. Per ticket average the simple form means that in the Bible Belt it isn’t uncommon to have a gate of $ 30,000. In California $ 3,000. There are often four groups on a bill and so… divide the gate by four, so… BB=$7.500. Ea. SC=$ 750. Then you have to pay for the church and or auditorium fees often 20% of the gate. Sometimes we sing for "free will or love offerings".

Anyway you get the picture, when all is said and done you might make $500. for the entire group, thats for five people (four singers and our wonderful paino player and world class Alto, Charlotte.). We don't do this for money, or fame that's for sure, it's about the message and an abiding love of singing.

The bad news is I’m still looking for employment in my usual field with all the problem associated with that. IMNTBHO the internet has to a very large degree made the job market "un-personal" or de-humanized", jobs are posted on Monster.com for example and there are 4,000+ people who apply. Your chances of getting YOUR resume under the nose and eyes of a recruiter is about a 1% chance of having your paperwork even seen. It’s very frustrating. I’m working on it. Keep praying for me and my wife is all I can ask. Thank you.

Dizz
Sun, May-05-02, 22:56
:angel: Everyone on this list has been in my prayers since I drifted away. Glad to hear you are blessed to be doing what you enjoy but will continue to pray that you be blessed in all areas including finances.

Lisa, the grumpies melt away somewhere around the first week. I wouldn't worry to much most folks expect you to be a little grumpy when dieting. It is my experience that you control the amount of grumpiness so be happy it's much more fun! :D

Lisarubin
Mon, May-06-02, 05:58
:roll: Thanks to all who sent me replies. I'll keep "modifying " until my body gets it straight. The grumppies are gone already, or so it seems today and I'm hoping to have this chipper feelign for a long long time.
Have a great day!

mythreeson
Sun, Jun-02-02, 13:37
hi i just found this site yesterday but already love it. i want to raise my hand to the 100 pounds and over to lose. i have been on this for six weeks and have lost 24 pounds and already feel great. i have noticed now on a day where i may have extra carbs for some reason i feel not so good and have a bad mood. i started at 262 and am going for a goal of 135 that is what i was all through high school. got down to 110 which is what i should weigh for my height when i was 17 but didnt look good at all. my first small goal was to be under 250 and was thrilled to see the scales say 249 lol. now at 238 my next goal is 220. hope to meet alot of nice people in here.

Lisarubin
Sun, Jun-02-02, 19:35
Hi Mythreeson,
Sounds like your doing very well with your LCing. This site is great and very informational. Good luck using it and I may have to look to you for advise since your doing so well. :D

YummyWater
Mon, Jun-03-02, 23:52
every time i read into any of these threads i just get all warm and fuzzy, but really, its great knowing you all know how i feel or have felt (you gather the idea)
hmmm... okay, i have 144 to lose, started w/157 (hee hee, that means 13 are already out the door!) i started 4 weeks ago tomorrow. i cant wait to weigh in honestly, because i think ive fixed a few of the things that were slowwing me up (yummy "2-3 carb" bars, diet soda, and im trying to cut down on my processed meat) ive always been this way, or rather the only time i was the same weight as my peers was in third grade when i had my tonsils out. *sigh* i can still envision the picture, heh, i was wearing black velour knickers :lol: (hey gimmie a break, it was the christmas photo!) but yeah, i really improved mental image-wise over the years and really think pretty highly of myself.but i know i will live longer, be able to do so many things i have difficulty achieving now, and will be all around healthier for the long haul (heh, a pun)
so YES. great to be here. oh and i only skimmed through the 1st and last pg, but huge congrats to baileyws. wow, 50% thats great!!!
have fun everyone.
tanya

BaileyWS
Tue, Jun-04-02, 00:17
Welcome Tanya!

and thanks for the congrats. I'm not feeling very congratulations-worthy right now.

I am having a very difficult time getting back into the swing of LC eating. Since my homecoming, I am definitely craving carbs ... bread, pizza, ice cream, etc.

Life has been extremely stressful these days. Hubby has been out of town every week for work ... single parenting IS difficult. On top of that weekends have been spent in rehearsal ... hubby is directing a production at our local theater ... his assitant director directs when he is out of town. Opening night is Friday ... we have been SO busy ... I'm doing costumes .. lots of sewing . The good news is that there is no time to eat ... the bad news is, I've been "comforting" myself with favorite foods ... mostly fast foods and saying, "I will get back to LC after the show opens.

I did pretty well today ... but I still couldn't walk past my daughter's box of cheese nips without taking a few. I am proud of my weightloss ... but I am grieving the fact that this is a life long endeavor. I like to eat pizza and ice cream ... I don't want to give them up for life ...

Topazmom
Wed, Jun-12-02, 08:02
My name is Whitney. I have been reading all of your posts for a
few days now. I have 100lbs to lose. My highest weight was
255 about 10 years ago. I was in a very unhappy marriage. I
ended up getting divorced and finding The Atkins Diet. I didn't
follow it in a healthy manner though. I smoked and ate hotdogs and cheese pretty much everyday. I ended up losing 105lbs on
the diet.

Then I met the cutest man in the world! He was 22, I was 28.
We dated a year and then got married. This man is 6'2" and
weighed 129 when we got married!!! I'm talking SKINNY ! I started to cook regular meals for him. Something he
had never had! He and I both started to gain weight.
A year later I got pregnant. I gained 54lbs. He gained 20.
So, I'm up to 254, he's up to about 150, still very skinny! 15 months later, pregnant again! I ended up with gestational
diabetes this time and had to go on a restricted diet to avoid
insulin shots. Funny how you will go through anything to protect
your baby! Why couldn't I do it when I wasn't pregnant?!? Anyway, I only gained 8lbs with my second pregnancy, and my
little boy was 9lb 8 oz.! I still left the hospital weighing about
240.

So here I am, 240lbs, tired of being this way. Determined to lose
weight and be around for my babies. I'm doing more of a Protien
Power plan. I really love seeing all of the support that yall all
give each other. Thanks for reading my novel, and I hope to
get to know you all.

Thanks,
Whitney

DWRolfe
Wed, Jun-12-02, 09:51
And welcome to the Triple Digits Club!

It sounds to me like you've got your head together about what you need to do this time around and the right motivation.

I think those of us who have tried LCing successfully before (and then gained it back) have a very good shot at long term success. We have the benefit of hindsight and can be sure not to fall into the same traps a second time.

I hope you'll post often and share your progress and experiences with the forum.

We're all cheering you on!

Donald :wave:

Topazmom
Wed, Jun-12-02, 10:00
Thanks for the welcome and support. I have noticed that you are
a very friendly and supportive member of this forum. You have had
wonderful succuss on this WOE as well! Thank you again, and I'm
sure we'll be trading recipes soon!

Whitney :wave:

tangible
Wed, Jun-12-02, 10:58
I know you can do this the healthy way Whitney!

And, before you know it, you & your husband will be the same weight! :daze:

Now, there's a goal! :cheer:

Victoria
Wed, Jun-12-02, 15:29
Hello BaileyWS,
I'm so glad you made it home safely. I wouldn't worry about your struggles with getting back to LCing. I think it could be related to your return and recovering from all that you experienced. I think once you adjust you'll get back to your LC habits. Just keep trying.

Welcome Whitney,
Good to see you here! I've read Protein Power and find it a very good read. I really liked how they explained the health benefits of Low Carbing. My sister was close to having gestational diabetes...so she cut out the obvious sugar and gained way less weight during that pregnancy than the first. I think there's a big correlation between eating lots of carbs and gaining tons during pregnancy.

I'm sure you'll do great on this way of eating. I've been thrilled to see the scales move downward. I am NOT a "dieter", but have found hope in Low Carbing. I can lose weight without starving...I like that part. ;) And feel like I'm becoming a healthier ME. :roll: Victoria

BaileyWS
Wed, Jun-12-02, 23:22
Welcome Whitney ... this support group can be great help in lots of ways. Glad you joined us and I'll be pulling for you.

Voctoria, I am still having a very difficult time getting back to LC. I had allowed myself carbs for quite a while now ... beginning with the surgery in Feb. The scale is reading closer to the 128-130 mark now ... and I refuse to let any more pounds stick to me. I don't mind staying here for a while, but I DO mind reversing a good trend. I don't want to give up.

So ... I think I need to do a better job thinking about the resistance .... this is not a food thing ... it's a life thing. What is keeping me from eating in the way that's most healthy for me?

Why do I feel the need to "treat" myself to a dish of ice cream or a bowl of popcorn? Why can't I get myself to the gym in the mornings?

I'm really looking for help from people who may have lost the habit ... and have been sucessful at getting back.

Thanks,

Topazmom
Thu, Jun-13-02, 07:19
Tangible- Thank you for the welcome. You are right that is a great
goal! My first goal is 50lbs by Christmas. My parents are taking
my whole family to Disney World for Christmas! I want to be able to walk the park with my kids without huffing and puffing! I figured it up and it is about 2lbs a week to loose. I'm really going to try.

Victoria- Thank you for the welcome as well. I think you are right about pregnancy and weight-gain. Now if we could get the Dr.s
to see it. I think they should warn pregnant women about excess carbs during pregnancy. Looking forward to chatting more.


BaileyWS- Thank you for the welcome and I appreciate the support! I'm going to need it.


Whitney

Lolabug
Thu, Jun-13-02, 12:59
Hi all,
Just thought I'd drop in as I'm in the same boat. I think I've got it all together for now. Been doing Dr. Atkins seriously since May 1. (Not so seriously since Mar 1).
Love this site 'cause I don't feel so alone in what I'm going thru.

what really inspires me is before and after photos. I don't know why I think that when I lose all of my weight, I'll look like a bag 'o skin. somehow I think in the back of my mind that people will always be able to see that I was once fat and still judge me as they do today. I'm coming to grips with the fact that I'll look "normal" and all anyone will see is a healthy and vibrant person.

Ooop, boss just walked in, back to work!

shellyfell
Thu, Jun-13-02, 15:53
Hey, Baily........I'm in the same boat as you. I've gained back 27 of the 42 pounds I lost by LCing. I have fibromyalgia and last June everything that could have sabatoged my progress happened. I quit excersising as well. I started induction over again today and started baby steps back to excersising. I know for a fact that depression has ALOT to do with my motivation. Depression is an evil, ugly dragon that is relentless at burning up to nothing your optimism to do anything that is good for yourself unless you find the exact combination of meds and therapists as well as a positive environment to live in while your making your way through. LCing is VERY helpfull in so many ways. It even lessens the fibro symptoms!!!!!! Now that's a MIRACLE!!!!!!!

:spin: :cool:

Spinning in frustration but keeping it cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SHELLY.............................................

shellyfell
Thu, Jun-13-02, 16:08
I just remembered what a therapist told me once about an eating disorder I have.........she ask me what things were like when I was a child..........I told her it was a war zone(I'll leave out the details), then she says to me "what was meal times like?" They were wondrous, full of potatoes, gravy, fried chicken and cube steak rolled in flour, molasses bread, all things carb-etc., etc., etc.,------now here's the kicker, everyone was so happy at those moments, jolly, laughging, filling my plate and more than once along with more milk, pepsi and Koolaid than any humanbeing should consume, let alone a kid...............so here I am, fixing it at 37, still spinning but keeping my cool :spin: :cool:.....................

Shelly.........................

BaileyWS
Thu, Jun-13-02, 18:45
Shelly,

There is no doubt I am also experiencing a bout of mild depression. This is pretty normal for me during periods of stress. But it is not severe enough to seek medication at this time, I usually manage it well. I tried medication for a short time last fall and found the side effects to the medication were worse than the mild depression ... so I manage it without meds.

I can also relate to food being a positive, safe, and "good feeling" type of memory.

I wish I had a food attitude more like my husband's ... he's the "eat to live" sort of person ... I'm more "live to eat." He just doesn't care about food ... as long as he eats he doesn't care what it is ... and, luckily, my daughter can be that way too. Although, I have noticed she eats when she's bored ... which is happening a lot right now because school is out.

I'm still dealing with culture shock ... coming home is often more difficult than going in the first place. I am still reeling from the psychological stress of realizing I actually had cancer in my thyroid and that life is fragile and that I AM vulnerable. Plus the normal stress from work ...

Today I'm doing well ... so far low carb and not overdoing ... I didn't make it to the gym this morning ... but I went shopping and did tons of walking at the mall looking for a father's day gift.

One day at a time ... one day at a time.

webster62
Mon, Jun-17-02, 20:17
It's so nice to know I'm not the only person out there who needs to lose this much weight! :wave:

I've been big all my life. Did Weight Watchers for the first time when I was 12. I lost but didn't keep it off.

When I was pregnant with my oldest I actually weighed 30 pounds less when I had him than I did when I got pregnant. No such luck with my daughter. I ganed 60 pounds with her and still have the baby fat (Ha--after 13 years!) I weigh now what I weighed the day I had my labor induced.

I lost about 35 pounds on Weight Watchers 6 years ago and as soon as people started noticing it I freaked out and started eating again. Now I'm pre-diabetic :( and have been on and off Atkins for 2 years. I am really hungry most of the time. What am I doing wrong?

Chrissy
Mon, Jun-17-02, 21:28
16.5 more pounds and I will have lost 100lbs.

This is the most weight I've ever lost and the longest I've ever stayed on a plan.

Its a wonderful feeling, and I wish you all the very best, dreams do come true :rheart:

Chrissy
Mon, Jun-17-02, 21:41
Originally posted by webster62
I am really hungry most of the time. What am I doing wrong?

Hi Webster, welcome to the forum. You will love it here, lots of great people who have walked your shoes.

You should not be hungry, it sounds like you are not eating enough food. Add fat to all your meals.....this will keep your hunger abay. The best thing to do is EAT went you are hungry, just eat low carb foods! Listen to your body.

Happy LC'ing and good luck on your journey :thup:

Christine

Victoria
Mon, Jun-17-02, 22:40
Hi Webster!
Good to see you here. Chrissy is right...don't be hungry, just eat low carb. If you're pre-diabetic, does that mean you are hypoglycemic? Maybe you need to make sure you eat lots of small meals, just make sure you have protein and low carb vegies. I like to eat a can of tuna with spinach leaves and ranch dressing. Simple and fills the bill when I'm hungry. Getting rid of the sweets and breads and unnecessary carbs should help with your blood sugar.

Just do it one day at a time. Don't try to lose too fast. Start up a journal here on the forum and if you list your foods and quantities, we can come and visit and see how you're doing. You can also keep track of your food intake on fitday.com. It's free and will let you know how much fat, carbs and proteins and calories you are consuming.

Hope is goes well for you. :wave: Victoria

In_Control
Mon, Jun-24-02, 08:37
Hey Skinnyminny!

And wow. You started from where I started. 255. PLease tell how it feels to weigh 135!!!! How long did it take? I did notice that you are very young. I'm sure that helps.


By the way...Happy Birthday!

webster62
Mon, Jun-24-02, 17:20
Thanks for the help. How do I do a journal on here?

sasquatch
Thu, Jun-27-02, 17:58
It's like i told someone at work...I lost 6lbs in one week..Another 8 months at the same rate and I should be just about there(Just kidding, I know about stalls, slowdowns, and evil dwarves sprinkling me with weight gain dust as i sleep) :D

DWRolfe
Thu, Jun-27-02, 19:20
I'm sure you've heard (or will hear) it so often that it's boring...

...but I love your screen name! :roll:

Welcome to the forum and to the Triple Digits Club!

Donald :wave:

Lovetotest
Fri, Jun-28-02, 10:37
Hi guys,

Linda here :) I have lots of weight to lose. I started this WOL on June 10th. I have about 220lbs to lose. I know that I feel so much better already. My appetite is finally getting under control some. It feels really good to not constantly looking for my next fix. I am not very strict as of yet. I am still eating fruit at this time. I am trying to eliminate it slowly. Do any of you eat fruit on this wol. Talk to you soon.

Hugs,
Linda

Shark01
Fri, Jun-28-02, 11:16
Linda,
You are certainly off to a good start :thup:

As for fruits, my wife is doing somersizing and you can have fruit ONLY if it is seperate so anything eaten with it wouldn't be stored as fat due to the insulin spike caused by the fruit. For example, an apple or orange for breakfast with nothing else.

So maybe you can do that for breakfast a couple of times a week.

Good Luck ;)

Jolly Bean
Wed, Jul-10-02, 17:41
Hi everyone!

I'm a newbie and just wanted to introduce myself to the group.
I have well over 100lbs. to lose and have only been at the Atkins Diet since July 1st, but I'm feeling good :)

I'm looking forward to being part of this forum!

Hugs,

Jolly Bean :-)

sasquatch
Wed, Jul-10-02, 17:53
Hey everybody- Just stopping in to say hello, HELLO! Just made it back into ketosis after trying those carbloite chocolate bars on sunday & monday(about 3/4 of a bar on both days is the only out of the ordinary thing in that time period). Am I the only one who can't eat them? OH WELL. I'll just have to suffer through with the odd macademia nut :D

gapgirl420
Wed, Jul-10-02, 18:13
Hope this train hasn't left the station yet....I really want to be on board when it takes off....

Doing really well, and will keep everyone posted on the progress.
Thanks again for the support!

GAP

Lolabug
Thu, Jul-11-02, 07:48
Welcome everyone.

for any newbies, check out the first threads in the newbies questions forum. Lots and lots of really helpful links.

Plus, in the General carb form, Nat has a thread about how to go about using the search function more efficiently.

Lots of info and support at this forum. Welcome!

Tickie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 10:12
I feel great about losing weight. I haven't felt this good in years. Yes Lovetotest, I eat fruit before meals early in the day and I'm still losing something I don't know if it just inches or pounds because I don't have a scale and I only go by how my clothes fit and how I feel and I feel marvelous and my clothes are looser. I started exercising everyday if only for 1/2 hour. Even if I don't lose weight I'll do anything to keep this feeling of well being. Also I prefer fruit to the bars etc. Sometimes if I get the taste for something sweet and I'm out of fruit I'll drink some diet rite soda that comes in different flavors.

MissJules
Fri, Jul-12-02, 03:58
I also have over one hundred pounds to lose. Right now my weight is 271 lbs. When I started this WOL my weight was 305.

I am 5'2" (that's prolly streching it a bit... more like 5'1 and 1/2") and my goal as of right now is 150lbs. That will be a total weight loss of 155 lbs... a whole person! WHOA!!

I know I WILL do it, though.

As for weight charts.. .BLAH!!! I'm supposed to weigh like 107lbs. I personally think I'd look sick that thin.

I'd love to get to know you all better. Email me if you'd like.

I work graveyard and have plenty of time to email back and forth, or I do have chat programs at home I can use. AOL, AIM, ICQ, Yahoo (yeah, I was an internet junkie before I started moving my butt) :wave:.

You all have a GREAT low carb day!!

Julie

babybear
Fri, Jul-12-02, 13:00
I have around 135 pounds to loose. However, my first goal is 250 so I have 22 pounds to loose. Hello to everyone hope you are doing well.

Babybear :cool:

Victoria
Sat, Jul-13-02, 10:24
Hi everyone and welcome! So many new faces. ;) I have a little over 100 lbs. to lose still. I've been doing this for over a year and have lost 70 lbs. or so. So I'm still plugging away at it. Low Carbing has been the only way I've been able to change my size. So I want you all to know it really does work. Make small goals...don't get discouraged by HOW much you have to lose. Rejoice in every 10 lbs. you lose. If you keep going, one day at a time...in a year you will have a lump of fat gone too. ;) ;)

As far as the fruit is concerned. There are some that are lower in carbs than others. Melon, strawberries come to mind. Find out the carb count on your favorites and keep that in mind when you have some. I don't eat more than 1 a day....usually. You can look on fitday.com and find out how much carbs, protein and fat are in the foods you are wondering about. This is free and is a great tool to keep track of what you're doing.

I had read to make sure and eat protein with your fruit so your insulin doesn't spike. So there's a difference of opinion there. I will eat a piece of cheese or something with a slice of melon. Then I have my protein to offset the insulin.

Well, anyway. You all have a wonderful low carb journey and check in with us often and let us know how you're doing. :wave: Victoria

mwallace29
Tue, Jul-16-02, 10:14
HI Everyone ~ I have been reading this very looooonnnnggg thread this morning. It sure has been nice to get to know everyone a little bit.

I started dieting in the beginning of June and went from 286-273 (low fat) ~ I was starving all the time!!!! I decided to try Atkins on 7/7/2002 and have just finished my first week and have went down to 267! I had a rough couple of days ~ but I feel great now and I am never hungry!!!

I am on my way to 160 ~ thanks for being here!

Congratulations to so many of you on your great successes!

KetoisKid
Tue, Jul-16-02, 21:01
Well, I just crossed the triple digit mark. I am now down 105 pounds, and have stayed there for 3 days, so i think i will call it official. Another 50 to go, and I will be home free. Hopefully by years end. i had set 190 as my target weight, but now that i am at 225, I think 175 is definitely attainable. I am down to a 38 waist, and my new goal is a 33-34.
I wear suits to work everyday, and had delayed buying any new ones until this week. i am finally at the point that I can have them taken in as i lose the last 50, and not have to replace them. All the money I saved on food in the last 5 months just went out the window as i spent a fortune on suits, but it was the happiest several thousand dollars i ever spent!!!!!!
I am keeping at least one of my size 54 suits with the 53 inch waist in the closet to remind me, and happily repleacing the rest with size 44 suits with 37 waists.
The one thing i must always remember is no matter how long it takes to get to my final goal, i will always be a triple digits member at heart. The path to 325 is a familiar one to my body, and if i do not pay attention for life, it will find it's way back without me watching. That is why this forum is so valuable. Thanks to everyone who posts in here, and gives freely of their thoughts, emotions, and feelings. It is much appreciated. God Bless everyone and Be Well.. jason

DWRolfe
Wed, Jul-17-02, 08:49
Jason, I'm just beaming with happiness and pride for your accomplishments! :thup:

I'll drop by your journal to gush further, but I just wanted to share my hearfelt CONGRATULATIONS with you here, in a very public way!

What a wonderful story, especially for members of the Triple Digits Club. I look forward to the day when myself and many others here can join you in this exceptional achievement.

Woo-hoo!

Donald :wave:

mwallace29
Wed, Jul-17-02, 08:52
Congratulations Jason ~ I can't wait until I am on my last 50!

amarise28
Wed, Jul-17-02, 15:21
:wave: hi! i have ben posting in my journal since june 10, but am certainly not new to LC ing. I lost 100 lbs in 2000 only to gain it all (all but the last 8 lbs :( ) back in 2001. so here i am . i have to realize that for me, eating carbs is not something i can do and not be VERY fat. ..esp since i have PCOS and for that low carbing is the ONLY treatment (i identify w/the chin wiskers ..>sigh<....hormones are a b--ch) .
I cried when i saw i was back over 300 AGAIN, but i am down 21 since finding this supportive forum..it REALLY helps to not feel so alone...swimming against the high carb food pyramid:devil: culture....i would love to keep company w/ you all if you don't mind as i continue this journey to LIFE. Congradulations :clap: to all of you who are well on their way....hope to catch up to you soon :) love:rheart:-amarise

Jimsgems
Thu, Jul-18-02, 10:05
You are doin' great... You can, I can, we all can. Be well. Ain't it great?

Jimsgems
Thu, Jul-18-02, 10:11
amarise28;

I cried for you too, Remembering all along that... "we either have what we want in life, or we have the reasons why." Who else is in charge of your life, but you.

You can do it, you have done it before this time with more resolve to overcome the "PACKAGE" we've all been sold on. But, we know better. Be well, be aware and be active.

sasquatch
Thu, Jul-18-02, 19:18
Hi everyone just stopping in to say hello, and now that I wrote the address of this site down , I can put it into my new browser(which does not tranfer all my old bookmarks) :mad:
AT least todays weigh in was good news :daze: . Off to put this site in the other browser.

lilwannabe
Thu, Jul-18-02, 21:22
I got weighed today...down another 3 lbs...Yahoo!!

Jolly Bean
Fri, Jul-19-02, 11:36
Great job, Anita :D

You're doing so well, be proud of yourself!

I have decided not to use the scale, at least for a while at all. I have so much to lose and I am just starting.
I have been following the Atkins plan and I have to admit, I feel GREAT :wave: I am not hungry most of the time and I feel like I have much more energy.

I'm so happy I've found this board and all of you. It is SO inspiring to read your posts and see how much progess everyone has made!

Hugs,
Janie
aka Jolly Bean

amarise28
Fri, Jul-19-02, 21:05
hi :wave:thanks for the compassion and the kind words..i will not give up..i am so glad i found this site. God bless all of you.

:rheart:-amarise

Shark01
Sat, Jul-20-02, 10:16
Amarise,
I couldn't help noticing that you list your WOE as Atkins/CAD? I don't know which you are following, but I am having a lot of success doing Atkins for 3 weeks, then doing a week of CAD. It really is working well ;)

BaileyWS
Tue, Jul-23-02, 21:42
Hi everyone ...

It's nearly my 1 year anniversary of LCing. July 27 is the day. I have had a good year of it. Today I am about 50 pounds lighter than I was when I started. That I can live with. Unfortunately I was about 10 pounds lighter a few weeks ago ... but I've had a very very difficult time getting motivated and sticking with the LC WOL since ... well since my parents were here visiting, since I was on vacation, since I was recovering from my trip to Guatemala, since my surgery in February ... well, maybe since Christmas ... OK ... I haven't gained it all back ... in fact, I'm still a few pounds lighter than I was the first of the year ... fluctuating between 236 and 226 for the past 4 months ... so what have I learned?

I've learned that I really AM addicted to carbs ... once I start it's very very hard to give them up ... also, I've learned that I really don't like them that much. I feel better all the way around when I don't overdo them. More energy, less flatuance, less heartburn, and not as achy. I've learned that LCin really needs to be a way of life for me ... but I've also learned that keeping steady (if not at my goal weight yet) is also an accomplishment I'm proud of.

I was able to sit in the seats on rollercoasters this summer with my daughter ... and have a great time ... I was able to sit in the airplane without an extender ... these are good ... and I never want to go back ...

So, I am starting again ... tomorrow will be day 1 of induction to get back to the Atkins plan ... I will do it for a week ... and then back to OWL.

I will begin excercising again as well ... This anniversary is good ... I'm proud of what I've accomplished, but I need a good motivator to get me back into the groove ...

Amaraise, I also suffer with PCOS and the hairs on the chin ... It's good to know we are not in this alone. Whenever we have a set back ... that's not an excuse to give up altogether ... it's just a diversion on the path to success ... we will make it.


Thanks for the support.

amarise28
Wed, Jul-24-02, 15:13
hi there :wave:
shark..yes i put down both atkins and cad b/c i find that atkins is really the way for me to lose weight the fastest and i do feel better on it..fibromyalgia, pcos symptoms,etc improve drastically when i stay under 30 grams per day. However, being a total carb addict i am bound to slip up and when i do ..i just look at the clock and say..ok..this is your hour..hello reward meal. I find it really helps w/ special occasions like birthdays when there is just no way i can pass up that cake. i dont do 2 weeks atkins/1 week cad..how does that work for you? basically i am just aiming for atkins figuring that at least if i miss i still land safely in CAD. it helps to keep me from thinking that if i blow the atkins all is lost and i might as well take a day off...this way after the hour i am right back on track and it stops the guilt/eat cycle.

wendy..so nice to meet another pcos battler...still havent been able to stop the whiskers...are you on any meds? Dont you think LCing is really the best treatment option? I sure do..but then again i'm not married so dont know about the fertility issue..i sure hope i get to have children someday..do you have kids? God bless you as you get back into induction...YOU CAN DO IT!!
:daizy:-amarise

paws
Wed, Jul-24-02, 16:36
Mdxgirl - I lost weight the first three weeks on Atkins and then for reasons I don't understand I gained 5 pounds in the next week and a half. I was very shocked and depressed about that so early into the diet and I am still in induction. The next week I lost 4 1/4 pounds so I am back to losing weight but I just wanted you to know that you are not the only one with a weight gain.

Shark01
Wed, Jul-24-02, 16:51
Originally posted by amarise28
hi there :wave:
shark..i dont do 2 weeks atkins/1 week cad..how does that work for you? basically i am just aiming for atkins figuring that at least if i miss i still land safely in CAD. it helps to keep me from thinking that if i blow the atkins all is lost and i might as well take a day off...this way after the hour i am right back on track and it stops the guilt/eat cycle.

The 3 weeks on 1 week off seems to work well enough although I've only done it once (2nd time coming up next week) and I apply it as a planned week of change to keep things fresh rather than a cheating fallback. I think it would become a slippery slope used that way for me. It helps me to stay on my primary diet when I can say" next week I'll go see the Austin Powers movie and I'll have the great movie popcorn with Xtra butter and a real Coke. :Party: " or "I want to go to the House of Pies and have a couple pieces of chocolate pie :yum: "

BaileyWS
Wed, Jul-24-02, 16:54
Amarise ...

I don't take any meds for PCOS. I had my thyroid removed earlier this year, so I am on thyroid replacement. I had tried glucophage before low carbing ... my doctor prefers that I do one or the other, but to stay off the glucophage while doing Atkins.

I am well passed the fertility issues, though I went through the whole gammut 13-15 year ago ... they didn' t know about the connection between PCOS and insulin then. I took injections of fertility drugs in order to conceive. My daughter is turning 13 now ... my only ... my pride and joy.

Other PCOS symptoms? I stay on the pill now to normalize my hormones and keep me regular. the weight, of course, is related ... as it is to the thyroid problems as well.

I don't want to be taking a pharmacy of drugs, so I am fine regulating PCOS through the low carb diet. I'm hoping it will keep me from becoming a diabetic ... and reduce other health concerns as well ... The percentage of PCOSers who get diabetes by thier forties is astounding ... I want to beat the odds ... I'm nearly 42 now.

So far today ... induction is going well ... The big test will be tonight when I get home from work. I am alone this week since my daughter is at camp and my husband is working in Dallas. That's both a blessing and a curse ... don't have to cook for them, but there's no one watching me but me ...

SummerYet
Tue, Aug-13-02, 00:36
Hi Everyone!
I want to lose 120 pounds...
I have lost 16 so far...
I will be here for a bit...look forward to getting to know everyone!
~Michelle :dazzle:

Jimsgems
Tue, Aug-13-02, 09:50
Way to go! It's a moment by moment thing. We are not giving up anything, actually we are receiving more than we would ever give up. So good for you again, welcome and be well.

SummerYet
Tue, Aug-13-02, 10:02
Thank you so much for that inspiring welcome!! I will make sure I visit here often!!
~Michelle :dazzle:

sasquatch
Tue, Aug-13-02, 12:05
SummerYet-- Greetings & Good Luck fellow, New Jerseyan!! :clap:

bike2work
Tue, Aug-13-02, 19:56
Hi,

I haven't read all of this thread, but I find it inspiring that you are all so open and friendly and doing so well with your weight loss. Congratulations to all of you!

I know how hard it is. Last year I was over 300 pounds (don't know how much over because the scale only goes to 280). I got down to the 220s but have been yo-yo dieting and gaining this year. I used to be so diligent about following a weight-loss plan precisely but somehow it's gotten harder this year. I've been mostly off-plan and need to get serious again.

So here I go (again :rolleyes: ). I look forward to reading more of your insights and success stories! :)

Jimsgems
Tue, Aug-13-02, 23:33
A warm welcome to you too. Stay and play.

shellyfell
Wed, Aug-14-02, 00:48
Hi there, I was just wondering what kind of dieting you were doing for your initial wieght loss..........
...............Shelly............... :wave: ..............

shellyfell
Wed, Aug-14-02, 00:55
I finally just lost five more pounds

:thup: to me.......................yay!!!!!!!!........Shelly........ :cheer:

SummerYet
Wed, Aug-14-02, 08:07
Thank you Sasquatch! Where in NJ are you from??

Way to go Shelly!!!! You go girl!! :clap:

bike2work
Wed, Aug-14-02, 16:38
Originally posted by shellyfell
Hi there, I was just wondering what kind of dieting you were doing for your initial wieght loss..........
...............Shelly............... :wave: ..............

Hi Shelly - Congratulations on your weight loss!

I did Atkins but I never came off of induction. I lost maybe 85 - 90 lbs (I'm guessing) in 7 months, all alone with no support. Then I started to add a little more carbs and more food variety and exercise and began to gain slowly for a few months.

I got very frustrated and felt like it was pointless, since I was really adhering to something close to Protein Power. So I finally blew it for the first time and started to eat "normal" food because I was gaining anyway. Of course, I then began to gain faster.

Once I was off plan I developed a mentality of "I'm out of ketosis anyway so ...." For over 3 months now I've been falling off the wagon and going back to that same stupid thought, "I'm out of ketosis anyway so ..." and then staying off plan for weeks. This line of thinking has caused me to regain over 35 pounds.

Now I don't lose much when I go back on. I sometimes wonder if I hit a setpoint or if I can only lose on induction, which is pretty hard to go back to.

You didn't ask all that -- I just had to vent.

Thanks for the welcome, Jimsgems!

Luxsit
Sat, Aug-17-02, 11:57
Hi, I am just getting started 485 in late August, down to 455 now, this is great but seems like I have a million miles to go.

lilwannabe
Sat, Aug-17-02, 12:08
Ahhh...but the rest of your life to get there...be patient...it will happen!!!

mccarthynl
Sat, Aug-17-02, 12:44
Hi Mari,
I have more than 100 pounds to lose also and just started and I know what you mean about wanting some extra support. Congrats on all the weight you've lost already. I feel inspired by you.
Sucess!
Eileen

TxCharity
Sat, Aug-17-02, 13:49
I am new to this site and I have over 100 pounds to loose . I am hoping I can find a group that is encouraging and supportive . Its a long road to travel without encouragement . I am very postive and determined.

shellyfell
Sun, Aug-18-02, 15:39
Luxsit, some of us get some really quick results........that can be a good thing if you pay close attention to your overall health. You've come to the best spot on the web I've found and I've done alot of searching. You'll get some great support here and LOTS of knowledge, information and creative ideas to help you along the way...................

Shelly :wave:

shellyfell
Sun, Aug-18-02, 15:43
..................and 30 pounds is alot of wieght, you're to be congragulated for that........................
:cheer: WAY TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:wave:................Shelly

Isabel
Sun, Aug-18-02, 18:15
My all time high weight was 330. It is in my medical record so I know it was a fact but I don't remember it. I don't remember losing it anyway. I hovered around 300 for many years. I have not tried much dieting, knowing I would lose a lot when I was ready and not before.

Two years ago, I started working with a doctor to lose weight by adding exercise and a balanced diet. In two years, I lost 35 pounds. And I was going up and down that point for almost ayear. I guess I could say I lost 35 the first year and nothing, in spite of great effort and determination.

I was so discouraged. In June, I started to tell myself I would just have to accept being so fat forever but then I got this other thought, telling myself that I didn't have ever to quite. I could always keep working on it.

I started Atkins on July 21st. I weighed 265 then, 247 as I write this.

I am pleased to have found this particular thread. It gets a little hard on me to read about people working off twenty pounds and seeming to believe their situation is identical to mine.

I am especially irked by the folks who state that one should not stay on induction for any length of time (even tho Dr. Atkins states quite clearly in his book that for folks with a lot of weight to lose, it is safe to stay on induction for six months OR MORE). I have been told, via posts, that I need to learn ongoing maintenance. I wrote back that I could focus on maintenance for the last fifty pounds. Let me get into place where ongoing lifelong maintenance is an issue before you start telling me how to manage my eating plan, I say.

Jimsgems
Sun, Aug-18-02, 20:50
Dearset Isabel;

Congratulations for getting here and for the gains (losses you've already made. I'm speaking only for myself as you have discovered everyone (well almost everyone) thinks theyhave your answer.

I have discovered in my journey that "you eather have what you want in life, or you will have all the reasons why." This little aphorisum is true for all areas of my life.

To date I've lost 128 pounds and have regained my health as the major benifit. I had loved ones and others tell me that dieting "this way" is so-o-o dangerious and it could kill you.

Which my retort was... "thank you for your concern, but I gonna die someday of something or another and when I die, I want to die thin." Well you might guess that ticked a few folks off. Now that I'm lost a fairly large amount and targeting more, geveryone just says "hello, gee you are really lookin well." Which I can say... "Yes, Thank you."

I had to top the scale at 401 pounds before I got the message! I still don't know quite what "The Message" was but it sure scared me smart and back to health. I must have truly gotten it!

I have between 40 and 50 pounds to go and I'm not in a big rush, I've been on this way of eating since 12/3/2001 and that's really fast. I've been holding here for a while bouncing up and down five pounds on a daily basis and frankly I'm getting a bit down because of my stall and I'm really not panicked at all, but I'm doing the things that will lead to a break through, I'm walking daily and eating about 20 grams of carbohydrates total a day, I'm giving up one of my loves... Diet Coke!

Stay focused and keep your sails before the wind even if they aren't blowing hard or fast for you will be ready when it does. Be well, be happy. Jim

SummerYet
Sun, Aug-18-02, 23:58
JimsGems-

I just wanted to let you know how inspirational you are. I read the things you write and it is like "wow". Thank you for the time you take to help others down the road you have successfully travelled! Keep up the great work...hope I will be there some day!

~Michelle :sunny:

Isabel
Mon, Aug-19-02, 09:30
I have recently realized that I have a confused body image. In my mind's eye, I weigh about 180, which would have been about forty pounds overweight when I was young. Does this happen to anyone else?

I have a few thoughts about this phenomena. First, why don't scientists study the body image confusion of the very fat? We have all read plenty about anorexics distorted body image. Fat people don't get the same respect, from the medical profession or society, that anorexics get. I speak pretty knowledgably about anorexia/buliminia. My 20 year old has struggled with it for five years, being a healthy weight today.

Second, why does this kind of distortion take place? Denial, sure. But, in my case, I think it is more than denial. I am truly out of touch with the physical reality of not just what I look like but what size I am.

It is complicated. I am also vividly aware that I am grossly obese by societal standards.

I can't tell you how many times I have been trying on clothing and 'realized' I needed to buy a larger size than the last time I shopped but somehow in my mind I rationalized that the clothing manufacturer was making the size 16 smaller, then the size 20 smaller, then the 22 was made smaller. Duh! The tricks we play on ourselves. In my mind's eye, I have never been larger than a 16. AND at the same time this denial about what size I needed to be buying was happening, I was also adding to my shame and humiliation over how large I was.

Anyway. Just wondering if others have been aware of distorted body image.

Jimsgems
Mon, Aug-19-02, 09:46
"Denial, is not just a river in Egypt!" It's where we can live if we choose, but seldom is that state a safe and as wonderful as it might seem. Therefore self-deception allows for a state of confusion. Confusion is where what we perceive runs directly into reality and when they don't match up... confusion is the result, and a paradox forms.

The bitter truth is a much safer place to play, reality isn't kind, but it's real and therefore more accurate and well...REAL.

If we live in a state of reality, the truth is just that, the truth, nothing more, nothing less. Deception will kill us just as surely as stepping in front of a moving train at speed.

Don't wish to sound morbid, but I just have learned to live in reality and while I seldom like it that all that much, I seem to keep a much richer balance over all, and I seem to make better choices in food and in life.

Just a few randomly focused thoughts from a totally demented mind! :D

PS: Can you tell I almost flunked Psych 101. LOL

Lolabug
Mon, Aug-19-02, 11:48
Isabel, I know exactly what you mean. I still think of myself as not that fat for some reason although another part of me realizes that I am very fat indeed. When I look at myself in the mirror, I don't see what I see in photos. (not that there are too many photos of me lol) I think that for me, it's just that I don't want to see how fat I really am. Over time, I hope that I can bring my internal image and external image together.

Jim, thanks for being a member of this board. I really enjoy all of your postings. And I love your signature line!!!

Alena.

Jimsgems
Mon, Aug-19-02, 12:15
Thank you, I am blessed by each and everyone of you as we forage forward to Victory.

Isabel
Mon, Aug-19-02, 12:25
I know a great deal about denial but I think a distorted body image is a different psychological phenomenon.

This problem doesn't get studied in fat people. But it does get studied in anorexics because society actually approves of anorexics a lot more than fat people. Do you know that new studies are showing that anorexia appears to have a genetic predispositon? It isn't too great a stretch to think morbid obesity has a genetic predisposition. . . we sort of already know that it does, right? Metabolic resistance is not a question of denial.

I expect to see a time in the future when 'morbid' obesity receives the same respect that anorexia/buliminia receives. If society can have sympathy for a person starving from anorexia that thinks they are fat, then maybe there should be sympathy from a person dying from chronic obesity who thinks they look trim?

I think when we disconnect our true body image from the physical reality of what we actually weigh, it is not quite simple denial. I suggest that it is part of a medical disorder that merits further study.

This disconnect between what we think we look like and what we look like does not get talked about enough, IMHO.

On the lighter side, I have every intention of losing enough weight so that my inner body image of someone who weighs around 10 becomes a physical reality! And then I am going to lose another thirty pounds!

Isabel
Mon, Aug-19-02, 12:31
Have any of you 3 digit losers ever lost 20 pounds and had no one notice?

I have. In addition to facing a year or two or more of weight loss, it can be difficult to be recognition for losing weight that no one notices.

Over last two years, I have lost 53 pounds and except for sister and daughter, no one has commented. I have a theory. First of all, I don't think really obese people are sort of invisible to most normal sized folks. They don't really look at you. So, when you do lose weight, they don't notice because they scanned you into their thought system as "fat" and never really looked at you.

What do others think? Have you ever felt invisible because you were/are fat?

Lolabug
Mon, Aug-19-02, 13:13
Definately have to agree with you on the invisible theory. Not everyone mind you, but most people. I used to worry about what I wore if I wore the same thing two days in a row. (Generally not because of anything fun, more due to laundry!) Now, I wear what I want because no one ever notices. Same thing for my hair, only a few women ever noticed that I had new highlights or a trim.

I definately think that most people, men especially if you are woman, just note "fat" and then never really look at you, only their own interpretation of you.

Thank goodness for those people who do notice. Like my dd. "Mommy pretty" is music to my ears.

We are definately treated badly by others, ignored, etc. Sometimes it's even as bad as what we do to ourselves. I've finally gotten a hold of that voice in my head that would always put me down, criticize, etc. Controlling what I eat, knowing I'm making good choices, that does a lot for keeping that inner voice under my control.

Sorry for rambling, this whole topic strikes a cord with me.

Alena.

lilwannabe
Mon, Aug-19-02, 14:08
I used to have the opposite problem with the body image...I would just see this very fat, discusting blob...I was so disturbed by my body, it would almost make my skin crawl...but I have been working really hard on this...Now when I look in the mirror...most of the time, I see the person I want to look like, not the person I do...occasionally I still see that horrible looking body, but I look away, take a moment, then look again, finding something positive to focus on...I need to do this, to get past the negative self-talk...

As for no body commenting...I still have many that have not said...Gee, Anita, are you losing weight??? (I have lost 25 lbs), but I do have people saying, Hmmmm...Have you changed your ____....are you wearing coloured contacts, New make-up/Hair??? Etc...they see something different, but can't quite figure out what it is....This is okay with me...Because this journey to a healthier, slimmer person, is just for me...it does not matter what others think, or see...Only how I feel, how I think, and what I see!!

Isabel
Mon, Aug-19-02, 16:03
I am not particularly dependent on other people for my self esteem: I never was, not even when I was normal sized. I am just trying to stimulant discussion on what goes through my thoughts. If I process outloud or in writing that is read it helps me shift my thinking.

Blessedly, I have never seen myself as a fat blob. I wince just to read and write the phrase.

Even tho I am not dependent on others for my self esteem, I am open to compliments and flattery. C'mon, doesn't it feel great when someone notices your weight loss? And isn't it just a bit discouraging when no one notices?

I am wearing new size 18W pants to my monthly book club this week. A guy in the club has lost about 60 pounds in the last eight months. Each month the group has ooh and aahed over his losses. I can't help wanting to get noticed even though I started out with 150 to lose and he 'only' had the 60. Maybe its the kid in me that wants the attention. But I think it is more. don't we all do better with positive reinforcement? I don't need a lot of excuses to 'slip' into eating something unconsciously. . .

I still think that for most folks, the fat are invisible. And you are so write, Aleana: fat women can be completelly invisible to men. I have been fat long enough to notice, at all kinds of gatherings. Sometimes I have seen them scanning a room, erasing me without even seeing I am there. This is especially frustrating in a professional context. I don't exactly want to do business with a guy who just erased me from the planet . . . but sometimes I must.

Isabel
Mon, Aug-19-02, 16:10
The only time I write a short post is when I am feeling self conscious about all my long, internal rambles that I tend to write.

I think if something grabs to write longer than usual, you need to give it some air, let it out so you can let it go.

Jimsgems
Mon, Aug-19-02, 16:45
When I was 220 Pounds of fit Air Borne Ranger (long before it was so cool) I imaged myself looking fit, firm and fantastic. I was an Olympic weight lifter and so, I had considerable upper body size and tree trunk like legs, (well they are only 29" long and I'm 6'1" tall, you do the proportioning).

When I was 401 pounds, I knew I had gotten bigger! But how big didn't hit home, because I didn't just have an enormous belly, I had an enormous body! What really rang the bell was when I bought new pants (because the old one’s were too small) I got a size 56” waistline. The good news is today 8 months later I’m a fitter 42” waistline! “The tail in the tape” was never truer, and I didn’t really see it!

I’m an entertainer and minister of music of sorts, I sing bass in a Southern Gospel Quartet and I’m on stage all the time and in front of lots of loving people and not one of those kind souls ever said, “your gettn’ too fat Jimmy, your gonna burst if you keep eatn’ like that!”.

But now my activity on stage is easier and much more animated and I can sing easier and longer (Never had a problem with louder though). So if they see, they choose not to offend. I’ve always loved to hug the ladies and men alike but now it’s easier and more loving not just warm. LOL. I am all of a sudden getting noticed in the singing community as the quality of my voice is getting much richer and smoother. PS: I'm lovin' it too.

lilwannabe
Mon, Aug-19-02, 19:07
Isabel,

Sometimes it is hard to judge the tone of someone on here...I, in no way meant to offend you with my post. I was only contributing my thoughts on what you had commented on. If I offended you in anyway, I do appologize...I found for many years that I depended too much on what other people thought...and what I thought did not matter. You see, I now realize, that FOR ME , it really doesn't matter what others think. I can't let it matter...Yes it does feel good when someone notices...Of course...it is like a reward for all our hard work...But again, FOR ME , it doesn't really matter.

bsayne
Wed, Aug-21-02, 04:01
Boy, have I been out for a long spell...I just had to get back in the swing with you triple diget folk...sure missed you all.

I say that as I look back to the fastest 30 pound wt gain in my own life's history. I am now finding the road back to the track of the train that was taking me where I wanted to be fast, just a few short months ago. I could beat myself up over it, but instead am choosing to pick myself up and dust myself off and pick up that which I know works. *Family Crisis is never a longterm reason to pitch in the towel. (*Due to a serious work related accident) My HB is stable but unable to return to work for now...more surgeries yet to come on his legs, and yes, we finally took a long overdue vacation.

About distorted self image...The part I know I'll have to face soon enough though is the fact that when I looked in the mirror...my mind could not or would not accept that the slimmer reflection was me...I felt a fear creeping to the surface and I know there's a "not safe" connection for me that I will need to deal with. Thinking that your body "caused" things to happen to you can create additional barriers for weight loss. I think I'll make reservations for the demolition crew now! Bringing those walls down has to be given some priority.


I hear you Anita, it doesn't matter what other people think...they're not who matters! Flattery is nice but if we hang our moods on the line waiting for someone to notice...somedays we can totally rationalize this is as common knowledge...and some days...it's a touchy subject.

I hear you too, Isabel, and until it does happen...that's what where here for! You look great! Keep up the good work and above all else, be good to yourself and reward the progress in a healthy, nurturing way. We can't change other's selective blindness. But, we can change out outlook to it.

Now Jim Darlin',
You and your stats are a sight for sore eyes! What progress you've made while I've been out and about! You look Mahvelous Dahling! Don't sweat the slow down, it may just be your bods way of getting use to all the continued changes. You'll get it figured out soon enough! Look how long it took for you to have to chuck the old Diet Soda...some of us never could go there!

Take care all,
It's good to be back!

Beth

Lolabug
Wed, Aug-21-02, 08:13
Hi Beth, I know what you mean about that fast weight gain. I had about 2-3 weeks where I had a huge carb-fest. Now I'm trying to get back where I was before. It only reinforces how vigilant I have to be. the price of slimness for me will be eternal vigilance. Sigh. But you know, I can live with that.

I'm having a brutal tom and my head is still clearing up from the fogginess. Not again I say. It's not worth it.

Next month will be better, and the month after that will be even more so, and so on.

Hang in there, the first week back is the hardest but you already know you can do it.

Alena.

Jimsgems
Wed, Aug-21-02, 10:31
Kermit is right... "It's Not Easy, Being Green", or fat, he could have added. But Like I've said over and over, almost like a mantra; "You have what you want in life, or you have the reasons why."

Gosh it is so easy to justify, reason, lie and deceive ourselves so, who suffers? Life just is just what we make it, it’s is just that simple and when I’m presented with choices, I have to choose what is best for me and my health and my WOE. It’s not really hard, it’s what is reasonable and it’s what works.

Bless you all for what you have chosen to do for yourselves and I hope, wish and pray for everyone as a group of loving friends, Beth that means you also, you all are so precious and I’m so richly blessed by you all and your support, It means a lot to me.

mdxgirl37
Fri, Aug-30-02, 20:29
hello all :wave:

i was on the net tonite and something posessed me to look up the atkins site. i found some of my posts from 1 YEAR AGO!! i can't believe it has been that long since i stopped my low carbing. i lost about 20 pounds really quick and then boom, just stopped.

i kept saying i would start again NEXT WEEK AND THEN THE NEXT. but i am back. i have thrown all breads out tonite and will be hitting the grocery store in the morning.

I want to thank all of you who continue to post on this site and give encouragement to those like me who let everyday life deter us from this wonderful WOL. LC is the only way i have EVER sucessfully lost weight without starving myself.

question: i have read in a couple of posts about being careful of bacon. i really loved a couple of slices with my eggs in the am, alternating with sausage. are people talking about the sugar in it. i buy freshly butchered which doesn't seem to be as filled with adatives as the store bought stuff but i could be wrong.

thanks again for all the support and information

Wendye
Sat, Aug-31-02, 01:12
Hi - I have been contemplating posting in this thread for a while - well coming here anyway. I hope it's fine with you if I join in. I fit the main criteria - I do have over 100 pounds to loose.

I just haven't been able to get started.


But I have bought all the right things and have the fridge stocked - forget the rest of the family for the first month at least!!


The can all low carb with me. My DH is very supportive although he has no weight to lose.


I went to the theatre yesterday to see Les Miserables - well I was pretty miserable - sure I fitted in the seat BUT I just seemed to be huge! So that is it!!!


September will be it for me I think I've heard that one before - I'll pop back from time to time - but come by my journal if you have time - I need all the encouragement and support you can throw at me.

I do get encouragement from others on the forum (a lot of fun and friendship too) but I'm not sure you understand fully ... when you don't have 1oolb or more to lose!! (I men - it's half of me!)


As I have read some great advice here already (not the whole thread yet) - and I will take small steps and make small goals!! I get discouraged easity!!! But I have lost well on this WOE before so I CAN do it again.

So I wish myself 'good luck'

MY GOALS: (I am recovering from knee surgery after 5 months of sedentary computer posting) but I am keeping them simple

1. To swim at least 5 days per week
2. Limit carbs to 20-25 per day (mostly salads/greens)
3. At least 8 glasses of water
4. Eat 'simple'

What do you guys think???? Does it sound OK????


mdxgirl37 - Abaout the bacon - from what I know - the sugar is used in bacon in the curing process - it's what makes bacon, bacon - but if you're eating it and losing I wouldn't worry. - What do others think???

Hi Jimgems and lilwannabe I've sen you around the forum before - Hi, it's nice to see a familiar face here.

Bye for now. :wave:

lilwannabe
Sat, Aug-31-02, 03:42
Hi Wendye

:wave: :wave:

Wendye
Sat, Aug-31-02, 09:08
Hi - I have just come back from a night out - the last supper!!! and i declared to all my friends that September was the month - I WAS going to be a 'loser' in September and i planned to swim5 times per week.
One of my closest friends said we love you just as you are - but I'll pick you up at 3pm tomorrow to takeyou to the pool - I am taking my kids - great friend!!
So it is 6 minutes into the new month here and i am feeling SOOO good.

firespirit
Sat, Aug-31-02, 09:35
Wow--I've been away for about 6 months and I love to see all the new names and faces :D

I've been very busy and very distracted from LCing and weight loss. Here is an excerpt from my journal:

Since I last posted earlier in the year much has happened:

I have moved from Arizona to Wyoming and am looking forward to my first real Winter in about 6 years

I am starting a new job on Tuesday as Accounts Payable Clerk at a Technical School.
NO rotating shifts or working midnights

I am no longer living alone, but sharing a place with 2 adults and a 2 year old

I have half-heartedly started and stopped LCing for the last 6 months, but it is hard without support, and with so many life style changes. I have to confess I found myself seeking comfort foods which are typically carbohydrate

So that's where I've been, and although still busy with all the changes, in my new home, with my new job, I want to be doing what I know I should....returning to this WOE/WOL, and trying to lose some of this weight. :thup: :thup: ;)

I'm glad this thread is still alive and thriving. It's a place not to be sooo alone and full of encouragement. You go guys & girls :exclm:

tracilynn
Sat, Aug-31-02, 12:51
Hi you guys !Well I have 108 lbs to go .Its so nice to know there is so much support on this site and we are all in the same boat .Have a great day :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:

Shark01
Sat, Aug-31-02, 13:55
Traci, who are you kidding you have 108.1 lbs to go :lol:

I wish my scale was that accurate..........then again maybe I don't ;)

tracilynn
Sat, Aug-31-02, 15:33
Well I guess your rite I have 108.1 to go you caught me :D I work at the hospital and use a digitel scale .Have a nice day :wave: :wave: :wave:

Victoria
Sun, Sep-01-02, 13:05
I haven't been back to this thread in a while. It's good to see you all here still. Jim, I always love to read your posts. You are alot of fun and very thoughtful.

As far as being noticed....I think I kind of like being more invisible. I'm starting to notice being noticed. It's either because of my thinner size or very well be because I dyed my hair...no grey. All of a sudden I see men turning their heads in my direction. It's a little disconcerting... Don't get me wrong, I like being more attractive. But I'm not used to the looks, at least not anymore. I liked Isabel's thoughts on how people erase you out of a crowd. And how people don't really look at you when you're fat...so they don't notice when you've lost. I think very overweight people (I hate the words morbidly obese) register as "FAT" to normal sized people. So until you've lost enough to not look "FAT", they don't see the subtle signs of losing weight. That's just how it is. And then some people are too polite to bring up your weight...either loss or gain. So I don't take it as them not noticing, but just not saying anything about it. Even so, you can see their noticing...the double takes.

So I guess I'll have to become more comfortable with myself and not feel the need to be invisible. Because I definitely don't want to sabotage my weightloss because being noticed makes me feel squirmy.

Wendye,
It's so good to see you here. I always see your smiling face in the journals. I'm hoping September is a good month for you. ;) Victoria

Jimsgems
Sun, Sep-01-02, 17:09
I'd turn my head too! You are so sweet to be so kind and caring that is why you are love and adored by those who know you (what makes you tick... so hard to define) you are so loveable and tender, ya brought a tear to my old eyes. Thank you. Jim

Wendye; Nice to see you again, but why are you upside down? That's an old American joke to my Ausie brothers and sisters. :D

Wendye
Sun, Sep-01-02, 18:55
Hi Jimgems - I dunno why we Aussies are upside down - but it's darn uncomfortable!!!
http://www.digit.de/gallery/u_can_digit/cebee/upside-down.jpg

Jimsgems
Sun, Sep-01-02, 19:06
Wendye;

Now that's funny, you Ausie women have always turned my world upside down, but that's another story.

Be well. Jim

lilwannabe
Mon, Sep-02-02, 02:46
Do the toilets really flush backwards???

Wendye
Mon, Sep-02-02, 03:29
Well I have heard the water goes down the plughole in the opposite direction but Anita .....

WHAT DO YOU MEAN????

Day 2 over and still no cheat - feeling good

Brekkie: Cheese Omelette
Lunch: Half a BBQ chicken
Dinner: T-Bone Steak with 1 cup beans and salad
Supper: Diet Jelly (a little cream)

lilwannabe
Mon, Sep-02-02, 03:34
:lol: Wendye... :lol:

That is exactly what I was asking...I tell ya...I am going to have to come and visit there some day...I will just have to check that out for myself...I think that is bizzare... :lol: :lol: (small things amuse small minds...lol)

Jimsgems
Sat, Sep-07-02, 15:58
I promissed some "Progress Photo's" so, for what they are worth.

The first one is me and my son (Just out of the US Army) at Christmas (Nov 24, 2001) with me at 401 pounds, offically Dec. 3, 2001 but who's counting. :rolleyes:

http://www.jimsgems.com/MyPotBellyS.jpg

Then two weeks ago at 268 pounds...

http://www.jimsgems.com/AAA2.jpg

"...all things are possiable in the Lord."

Wendye
Sat, Sep-07-02, 20:35
Wow - Jimgems what a transformation - you must be so proud of yourself - i am!!! How motivating to have reduced so much - I bet your whole family so proud of you - I hope htey appreciate you as muchas we do - youare a true inspiration!! I can't wait until I am brave enough to post some before and after pics - well when I have some after (or during) pics). Well done!!!

I am now no cheat for 7 days - this is DAY 8 - I feel great - I feel strong and I feel thinner.

Went out to dinner last night (Indonesian) so my DH said - you order you know what you can have (it's an all meals in the middle share affair - like chinese but different flavours and no chopsticks)
We had fried chicken (no coating except spices) seafood and beef skewers - perfect!!!

AND I swam for 15 mins - gonna try my bad knee for 17 mins today - have swimming for the knee and half for the overall exercise - so if I couldn't be bothered there's always 2 reasons to go.

Anyway by for now - keep well and keep LC. :wave:

LC_Dave
Sat, Sep-07-02, 20:41
Thanks for your PM message Jim, I couldn't reply because it says your inbox is full!!

Good to see large fellas loosing weight so successfully!

This is day 2 on induction for me!

Good Luck Wendye!

Dave

lilwannabe
Sun, Sep-08-02, 03:54
Holy Hanna...Jim...You look Fabulous!!!!!

ldypgmr
Sun, Sep-08-02, 10:08
You are looking great...I bet the ladies are swarming...especially with your singing ...

Where is you mental image of yourself? Just wondering.

Dee

:wave:

Jimsgems
Sun, Sep-08-02, 15:18
Dee;

That’s a great question and one that caused me to pause for a few moments of self-assessment. Thank you.

I have several self-images in my file; Fit and firm Special Forces Ranger from the Vietnam era, no. Fit, care free artist and business owner, nope! 245 pound Police Investigator fit but no longer fat, nope! Recovering from getting run over and crippled, this is where my weight really started up. No, not there. 401 pounds and feeling sorry for myself, no that was then, now... I'm actually imaging myself as fitter than I've been in 20 years, but still moving down to the thinner me. I'm targeting 220 pounds and I still have a way to go, when I get there I will just be there.

I guess, my self-esteem comes more from how I behave rather than how I look. I guess that came from developing "my stage presence". For example, it is more important for me to be measured by how I treat others rather by how I’m treated. Not to minimize how I’m treated, good or bad, I think is a reflection of me more accurately that any other measure or metric for self-measurement. I hope you can make sense from this and that your answer is in there someplace.

Be well ya all.

heyjude607
Sun, Sep-08-02, 15:39
~~~

I'm finding inspiration galore! Originally posted by Jimsgems
It is more important for me to be measured by how I treat others rather by how I’m treated.

I came over initally to check on my buddy, Wendye, but, as I looked at some of the posts here, I found so much fabulous reading that I've come back time and time again.

Just wanted to say good luck to all of us as we continue on our LC journeys.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Be yourself before God! And present your problems,
the ones you know you have come to your wit's end about."

Wendye
Sun, Sep-08-02, 18:01
What a surprise to see you here Jude! G'day.

Dee - good question :thup:
Jimgems - good answer !! :thup:
Anita - i like your style.
LCDave - good luck to you too!!!

We are all going well - we can do this - thanks for your support and encourgement.

Day 8 no cheat. - I think I will be just as excited <strike>if</strike> when I get to Day 188 no cheat!!! (maybe more excited). I'll let you know!! ;)

Jimsgems
Sun, Sep-08-02, 18:09
I'm so proud to be a small part of this magnificent group of kind and gentle people from all over the world.

Wendye
Sun, Sep-08-02, 18:11
What a surprise to see you here Jude! G'day.

Dee - good question :thup:
Jimgems - good answer !! :thup:
Anita - i like your style.
LCDave - good luck to you too!!!

We are all going well - we can do this - thanks for your support and encourgement.

Day 9 no cheat. - I think I will be just as excited <strike>if</strike> when I get to Day 99 no cheat!!! (maybe more excited). I'll let you know!! ;)

Wendye
Sun, Sep-08-02, 18:14
Jimeems - How did you sneak in there before me???

Jimsgems
Sun, Sep-08-02, 18:16
I don't know but you gotta keep an eye on us old fast guys. LOL

Cheryl R
Sun, Sep-08-02, 18:24
I'm back and still needing to lose over 100 pounds. I have to remember how to update my profile, I am a few pounds heavier that when I left here. I have been back to low carb for 9 days now. I'm following it so much better this time.
I was excited to see how many posts are on this thread now. I read about the last 10 or so replies... I was overwhealmed to see the difference in Jim's before and after. It got me excited.
I let a nutritionist talk me out of doing low carb back in April... If I hadn't listened to her, I would have lost more. I pretty much maintained my weight everytime I saw her once a month, I'd be up a pound or 2.
So here's to starting again.
I have been going 9 days so far, and hunger doesn't seem to be an issue already. I'm loving it.
Cheryl

Jimsgems
Sun, Sep-08-02, 19:40
Nutritionist...

Dearest Cheryl, Welcome back...

"I let a nutritionist talk me out of doing low carbs".

I as sorry about that as you are. I'm really down on the holier than thou attitudes of nutritionist. Have you ever notice that they (the nutritionists) either look like death warmed over or are as fat as a dog! Just wondering, or are the person who has never had to loose a pound in their lives. I guess that’s been my experience anyway.

I actually had a nutritionists tell me that if I did the Atkins eating plan, “it would kill me!” I had the great pleasure of meeting with her again and with the “Head” nutritionist (I just thought that was funny as all get out a “head nutritionist”, I’m sorry, but I digress. I had lost only 128 pounds in five months, and all my medical tests were normal and compared to what my blood worked showed and the fact that I no longer required the use of insulin, my skin was normal and healthy looking. It was hilarious, I gotta tell you. They sat there and reviewed my records and, reviewed my records and, reviewed my records. When they finally spoke, the question they asked was very telling in itself; “Well, (long pause) how do you feel? I laughed out loud and in their faces and asked if that was all they could come up with?

Next, I listened to them tell me, “well your experience is an aberration” and there must be other “factors” to your weight loss. I tried to explain to them using no words containing more than three syllables, what my experience and that my HDL/LDL Cholesterol was at 400 five months ago and now it was 90! They looked at my blood work again and the looked at each other again, not saying anything. Next, I told them about being a insulin dependant diabetic for the last seven (7) years and the FACT that I am now testing blood glucose levels at 100 average, again they just looked at each other and didn’t say anything.

I ended the meeting by thanking them for their time and asked them when did they stop learning? Next, I told them that they can think whatever they wish, I’m the one who knows what works best for me and that they are wholly unqualified to guide me with my nutrition and how can they call themselves professional? They just sat there in total abject silence as I walked out of the room.

Sorry to make this a rant, but you have to be very careful of who you let guide you in your needs for assistance and information. There are many folks on this board that are more qualified to be Professional Nutrition Counselors as many in the field. Be careful and be well.

I’m compelled to quote my mantra one more time; “You either have what you want in life, or you have the reasons why.”

Welcome back. Sorry again for going on and on, sometimes I just get angry when someone steals your dream, or tries to.
Jim

ldypgmr
Sun, Sep-08-02, 21:33
Hi Jim

I agree. Last January when I had my blood tested for the first time in over three years...my Dr. told me I needed to be on a low fat diet that would take care of the lipids which were 3 times high normal...then told me she was going to send me to a nutrionist... Well, I have been there, done that, had been low fatting for YEARS! The only thing that happened on LF was increased weight, increased Lipids, constant craving of food not to mention acid reflux and other stomach problems.

I told her thanks, but no thanks. Came home and started research on the web. Over and over again, low carb came up as the answer to lowering the lipids. At the time I thought I'd low carb for a couple of months until the lipids were in line, then go back to low carb!

Last week I celebrated... I had prime rib...7 months low carbing and 95 pounds gone. May I say that this is not a diet...it is a WOL. I feel so much better, I now stay LCing for the way I feel. The weight loss is an added bonus.

Later all....

Dee

BaileyWS
Sun, Sep-08-02, 21:35
Jim and all ...

I have found that thinking of a low-carb diet as a "prescriptive" diet as opposed to a "healthy" diet for all is helpful in dealing with skeptics. My daughter -- 13 years old, 100 pounds, 5'3" -- does not need to be following a low carb diet, neither does she need to be following a low-fat diet. She does need to be eating moderate amounts of a well-balanced diet. My husband -- 42 year old, 130 pounds, 5' 10" -- is the same. In fact ... he needs carbs ... he needs the quick energy.

I, on the other hand, have a hormonal and metabolic system which is much healthier with very low carbs. In addition, I know that I am physically addicted to carbohydrates --

So, I think real sin is applying a concept of "healthy diet" in a situation where a "prescriptive diet" is more in order.

BaileyWS
Sun, Sep-08-02, 21:46
By the way ... I'm back ... or at least I've been reading posts here the last few days again.

I have been struggling to get back into Atkins ... but have really been struggling. I have successful for a day or two here and there in the last few weeks, but there always seems to be a reason to eat carbs after a few days ...

So, I am back to approximately 240 punds ... about where I was at Christmas 2001, and up about 10 punds in the last 3-4 months.

The 240 mark is a biggie for me ... so I refuse to go any higher! We have welcomed an international exchange student into our family, who eats very "healthy". She, too, is 5'3" and weighs about 120 pounds ... she is a gymnast and very muscular ... she eats fruit, fruit and more fruit ... and very little fat ... and virtually no sweets ... she likes, bread, though ... and she eats a lot, I think ... at least compared to the rest of our family.

In addition, my husband has been spending most of his work time away from home ... so I have had to deal with being a single parent most of the week to two teenagers.

I find I like to eat carbs to deal with stress ... comfort foods ... and the idea of "treating myself" to a dish of ice cream is SO satisfying ...

Anyway, I know I need to get back to the low-carb lifestyle. I've been away too long. I also need to get back into the exercise routine which I gave up since my trip in April. I guess I'm asking for help ... how to find the energy, the determination, the will ... to return to a way of eating which I know is best for me ... any words of encouragement?

ldypgmr
Sun, Sep-08-02, 21:53
Hi Wendy:

You sure have some good stressers. I used food for a long time to help cope with stress. Now I use exercise. I walk and walk and walk. or dance dance dance. Find what you like to do and exercise...it's a great stress reducer.

Also, make sure you are not eating "stress" foods. Caffine, Chocolate, sugar and other foods that actually increase stress.

Just some thoughts.... You can do this, if your mind is set.

Dee


:wave:

Jimsgems
Sun, Sep-08-02, 22:10
Gosh, I am so impreessed, but underatand... I’m compelled to quote my mantra one more time; “You either have what you want in life, or you have the reasons why.”

Anyone can do this thing, it just requires us to want health and wellness more than sweets and bread and.... it's always your choice. I'm prayn' for us all. Hey, can't hurt!

Cheryl R
Sun, Sep-08-02, 22:37
John...it's ok to go on and on...I know what you mean. I can't believe I was so weak as to let her convince me. I only went to see her, because my husband was going and I went with him.
Wendy and Dee....I remember you guys from before too.

Wendy...It was hard for me to get started again to. I had spent last Saturday with my neice (an adult) and we were doing a garage sale at her house. We had both decided that would be our starting date. Since we were together all day, it helped me get through the first day. We found some no carb hot dogs. For breakfast, we had all gotten McDonald's. We through our english muffins away from our mcmuffins and ate with just the egg, sausage and cheese. Then we had the hot dogs for lunch. We were so busy that day, we didn't have time to think about being hungry. The first few days, we were on the phone with each other every single day... now I haven't talked to her in a few days. But, I had her daughter with me yesterday and she said all is well with her mom...so we did it. Starting over is hard...but you can do it.

Wendye
Mon, Sep-09-02, 01:09
Hi everyone -

Jimsgems - I agree with the appearance of nutritionalists/dietitians - my dietitian is one who has never had to loose a pound in her life BUT she does advocate Lo carb - her first focus is grain free - that works for some (but not me!!) Then it's a matter of cutting out spuds, corn and other hig carb veges and fruits but keeping diary - and plenty of it - this was too many carbs for me so I said I am going full on PP and hse agredd it was probably the best choice. So here I am.

GETTING STARTED

Getting started is the easiest thing to do when you first begin, but when it's a re-tread like me - I have taken forever to get back on track (well it's only 9 days but I do feel very strong - committed and unswerving).

My typical re-start was - great in the morning and by 4-5pm I'd have blown it - and would say - Oh well I have blown it might as well eat up and start again tomorrow!! - NOT A GOOD WAY TO LIVE. As we know this WOL can abe quite healthy but not if you chop and change part way through each day.

So what did I do.............

I took a good hard look at myself ................. not a pretty sight I can assure you!!!

Who was this woman I had become ???- this fat frumpy lookin' thang - where did this huge body come from ????? - inside was a vibrant enthusiastic slim social butterfly wanting to escape (OK maybe not slim - but at least normal) - so I just told myself I had to do it. It was literally do or die.

I am a big 'list writing' person --

So I listed all the reasons why I wanted to lose weight and reread it aloud with tears streaming down my face and then I started - not the next day - then and there....

and I feel so good - I feel 'with-it' no fuzzy brain - I feel lighter (haven't weighed yet) I feel proud of myself and I fel I am doing this for all the right reasons ----- ME and my knee

Well I'd better leave some room for others to post - but GET WITH IT - GET LC!!


Hey Jimsgems - I just notices in your pics you lost a mo as well - does LC do that to you too??? :lol:

I'm keeping my eye on ya

Wendye
Mon, Sep-09-02, 01:15
I'm back - I think it's improtant to know why emotionally or health wise why we want to lose weight.

Here were my original reasons and I see that most of them are physical or emotional not necesarily health - but that of course is all art of it.

This is what I wrote:

I have thought why - why do I want to lose weight - here's my top 20 - but it is not complete by any means - I should post this on my fridge except it's personal - just for you and me ;) .


1. So I have a variety of clothes to wear that fit and look good

2. To stop personal discimination - the type that says:
fat = lazy, sloth, unclean;
fat = overeater, glutton, pig;
fat = pathetic, uncontrolled etc etc


3. To find my neck and my lap - I lost them about 60 - 80 lbs ago

4. So the reflection is not so disgusting - as Atkid says you gotta learn to love yourself

5. To give my knee a chance to really get better so I can go overseas (maybe America) and so when I do come to America I won't have to pay for 2 plane tickets if I take up 2 seats.

6. So that 'fat' jokes become funny

7. To be more sociable - picnics, walks along the beach around the city/Darling Harbour - not worrying if I'll 'fit' in a seat at the theatre

8. To live longer, look attractive and feel better - for me!

9. To be less self-conscious of on-lookers

10. (Sorry this one is gross but has to be said) So my thighs don't rub together and give me a heat rash

11. So I don't look and feel 9 months pregnant

12. to be cooler in the summer

13. so that when I wave my underarm doesn't keep waving

14. So that when the car goes over a bumb my whole body doens't wobble

15. so that love-making is ......hmmm - let's leave that image alone!!

16. so I don't feel self conscious when we go to the theatre or movies or out to dinner

17. So that I can be proud of myself

18. So I don't embarrass my family because of my size

19. To be rid of this demon

20. So my husdand doesn't worry about me

I forgot -
21. so I can fit in a booth at a resturaunt instead of the table and 22. so I never have to worry about a seat belt fitting again
23. So I an 'sit' in a chair and not blob all over it
24. and yes for the SEX Did I really say that???
25. to prove to the doublters that LC does work


I have now thougth of millions more....

Jimsgems
Mon, Sep-09-02, 10:21
Loosing the "stach" was a choice, not Atkins, LOL

Sex is another important aspect of who we are as persons, and to have a strong and healthy sex drive is a WONDERFUL thing. It is the way it's supposed to be.

Sex and sexy are good things. Just look at me, why do you think I smile so much? LOL again!

lilwannabe
Mon, Sep-09-02, 13:55
Oh Wendye...So much of what you have written there sounds like a list I would have....(((((((((big squishy hugs for you)))))))))).

I think it is soooo important for us to remember why we want this. That is what keeps us on track...or at least what keeps us coming back...

For me...I have sooo many stretch marks, I will never have a beautiful body, no matter how much work I put into myself...there is no hiding the scars....BUT...I am learning to love myself despite that fact.

My doctor always tells me....NOTHING TASTES AS GOOD AS THIN FEELS!!! And he is sooo right.

Just to shop in any ol' store...to find really cute things at bargin prices...just to throw on a pair of sweats and a tee and look okay...to pull my jeans out of the dryer and have them not be the biggest in the house!! To wear my hubbies *big baggy* shirts to bed sometimes...To get whistled at by construction workers...(sick, I know, but everybody loves attention...lol). To have friends that I have not seen in a long time say....Holy sh**!! What happened to you????? To wear a little black dress, and actually have it be a *little* black dress...To wear high heels, and not worry I am going to break the heels. To run and play, and run and play, and enjoy running and playing...To become more social, not sit at home in front of the idiot box. And finally...The reason that I want this more than I want food is because .............

WE ONLY HAVE ONE LIFE TO LIVE...AND I WANNA HAVE FUN WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!

Jimsgems
Mon, Sep-09-02, 14:52
Amen!

Wendye
Mon, Sep-09-02, 17:31
Ditto

Hey Anita - NOTHING TASTES AS GOOD AS THIN FEELS

This sounds like a great quote for my favourite quotes thread! - I 'm going to add it now.

Bye - luv you guys! :wave: