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Andy Davies
Wed, Oct-31-01, 07:59
Kezza, I'm glad you told me my remarks were helpful. It makes me wonder how many other things we have taken it for granted that people know, when in fact they might not. I think it's time we had a little feedback session here to help clear up such things. I'll start, then everybody else is free to jump in with questions, comments, uncertainties, observations, requests...just let us know how you are feeling, and what you would like to see. If we can accommodate it, we will.

OK, me first. This triple digit forum is from today going to have a 3-person mentoring team - Ruth is going to join NumberOneWendy and me in trying to keep everyone's questions answered, offer advice, explanations, or point you in the right direction for help if we can't do it. Ruth is already a triple-digit member, being like all of us in for the long haul. She has specialised knowledge of diabetes, which often aflicts people with a lot to lose, and she is frequently to be found on the diabetes forum. She has a great sense of humour, and I for one am extremely pleased that she has agreed to spend a bit more of her time here with us.

Right, off you go. Any thoughts, questions, observations, requests, etc are welcome here now!

And a warm welcome too, to Ruth.

Andy

Sticki
Wed, Oct-31-01, 09:12
Thank you everyone for your wonderful comments - I have a big head!

I am not sure about going for end of November in case I don't make it - disappointment can be a trigger for me to do something silly with a diet, but I am still going to give this 100% as it is great to see the pounds go down. And yes Andy you can have a hand of my lard (LOL) take as much as you want.... :p Seriously though thank you.

My little comment is nuts . I see a lot of people on the forum eat nuts - but I find they raise my carbo level quite a lot, I guess that if you are following a regime that allows over 20 grams then they are fine, but as I restrict my carbo to a lot less than that I generally have to avoid them - the weekend just gone proved that to me.

Anyway that was my little pork rind for the day :exclm:

Thanks again

:wave:

Ruth
Wed, Oct-31-01, 10:19
... and thanks Andy for the intro. I'm pleased to be involved as a mentor in this support group. The people here have helped me tremendously & I'm glad to be able to share with newbies on the site. ... And yes, you can see from my stats that I *qualify* LOL to be involved in this forum.

Most of the knowledge I have of diabetes comes from what I've learned since being diagnosed as Type 2 diabetic in May 98. 4 family members have "D" too. I am passionate about diabetics educating themselves about this disease & how to control blood sugars. In this day of health care cut-backs, one simply cannot rely on your doctor for all the tools & knowledge you need to manage this disease on a daily basis.

Sticki: ahh, I identify with you about NUTS. I don't know how to stop at 1 oz, so why even start? Having said that, I DO have nuts in house, 'cause I'm planning on making some LC Chai mixed nuts (a recipe from Karen's newest cook book).

TTFN, Ruth

Lessara
Wed, Oct-31-01, 10:37
I'm a nut eater, more specifically Macadamia nuts ;)
I don't eat cheese so the only major carbs I have are from nuts, salads, and sausage.
The nuts are my portable snack that doesn't need refrigeration.
so I can bring it to work.
I have slowed down in my weight loss, but I've started picking up again so I'll wait to see what happens. I am only having half a jar
(6 carbs) a day. With Sausage and salads that makes 11 more carbs, and lastly I have Cream of Riccatta for breakfast and that's 5-8 carbs, depending on how hungry I am in the morning ;)
Thats a total of: 22-25 carbs. :D
I will be honest, eating almonds, walnuts etc make me nervous, they are up there in carbs. So I know what you are talking about.
I see people eating peanut butter and I wonder how do they do that, but I see people eat more carbs than I do.
I'm sensitive, oh well :p

mazdababe
Wed, Oct-31-01, 15:14
Hi, my name is Cheryl, and I too have over 100 pounds to lose. I started Atkins again...hopefully I will stick with it this time. I am very grateful to have people to share my ups and downs with and have decided to keep a journal to help with that. Thanks for listening, and I hope to be sharing my loss very soon! :spin:

numberonewendy
Wed, Oct-31-01, 16:21
Hi Cheryl,

Welcome and I'm sure you will stick with it this time...heck you got all of us here :D

Great that you started a journal, something that will help you keep on track. Lots of support here, so don't give up girl :thup:

Just a little tid bit Cheryl....you will be sharing your weight loss with us, trust me :D

(Hey Andy, I just pop on here every so often, not much on the education, but love giving support to something I know that works ;) )

Andy Davies
Wed, Oct-31-01, 19:19
Hi Cheryl, and welcome. We'll certainly try and help you keep on track here, and help you succeed this time. Keep posting in your journal, and come here for extra support.

Hi Lessara, like the new picture.

On the nuts issue, I agree about the usefulness of being able to transport them around without a fridge, but find they are rather addictive. (Peanuts, at least). Haven't tried macadamia nuts yet - I live in a small town in the sticks, and the local shops don't seem to stock them. But I will enquire. I've heard about these nuts all over the place, and have to find out what they're like!

Hi Wendy (Bailey), sorry I missed your message earlier, I was posting my own at the same time! Congratulations on your latest weight loss. Even with the little fluctuations it's a very impressive result. I love your determination. And if you enjoy exercise, and find it beneficial, then why not? (Just don't ask me to join in!)

Andy

BaileyWS
Wed, Oct-31-01, 19:35
Hi all and welcome ...

This forum has been my lifeline ... Whenever I feel overwhelmed or ready to go off this wol ... then I check in here ... there is so much information, but more than that ... there is so much positive energy and encouragement! Thanks.

I am most comfortable posting in this place ... though I do post in other areas, I find this one to be "home" for me.

About nuts ... I eat macadamias and almonds ... but I find I can't eat too many ... I get full of them ... any more and I'd get sick ... That keeps me in line.

I also eat peanutbutter ... but I try to limit it ... I like to spread peanut butter on a WASA cracker for a real treat (and sometimes breakfast). Even so, I remain in ketosis. When I'm craving sugar ... a spoonful of peanut butter will often suffice ... it's a whole lot better than breaking into the halloween candy!!! :eek:

I know, though, that when I am in a long stall or if I go out of ketosis for some reason (like a banquet meal) that I have to give up the nuts and cheese ( or at least cut way way back) to get back on track.

What's cream ricotta for breakfast?

Ka3n
Wed, Oct-31-01, 19:57
I will be honest, eating almonds, walnuts etc make me nervous, they are up there in carbs. So I know what you are talking about. Lessara, they're not too much more than the macs.
1 oz which is about 1/4 cup
Almonds 5 grams
Black Dried Walnuts 3 grms.
English Walnuts (this is the typical type in stores) 5 grams
Walnuts by Planters 4 grams

1.3 oz- Macadamians 4 grams(I have no idea why the book gave 1.3 oz for the Macadamians...)

When I got my scale I couldn't believe how many where in an ounce! They're so good for us, too. I love them for a treat.

Ka3n
Wed, Oct-31-01, 19:59
This forum has been my lifeline ... Whenever I feel overwhelmed or ready to go off this wol ... then I check in here ... there is so much information, but more than that ... there is so much positive energy and encouragement! Thanks.
I agree, Wendy! This whole site is such a great place for me, too.
:roll: :wave:

firespirit
Wed, Oct-31-01, 20:43
You guys are awesome :D

Like many of you have said, I too have found this forum to be my lifeline. And I love to love all over and post all over, but I do think of this as *home*

Nuts

I do okay with anything but pistachio. I usually measure out my nuts carefully and never eat over the amount. I also love 1 or 2 T of nut butter on celery, etc. But with pistachios I tend to just keep munching...so for now I'm avoiding them.

When last I checked in I'd finally broken that 250 mark, but I had a small fit of depression and dived into pizza and other carbs. I got over it, and am trying to come up with a plan for the next time it hits, but so far...??? I've been experiencing a little "scale fright" of my own, but I'm going to weigh tomorrow morning and see what's up.

Andy, in case I never mention it...I'm really glad you're here. Your information and support are :clap: and since I'm considered diabetic or pre-diabetic (depending on which doctor I listen to), I'm glad to have a "pro" looking out for us.

If I listed each of you by name, this post would be even longer, so I'll just say I'm soooo happy you are all here and posting. You're stories and encouragement keep me going :spin:

AmandaSo
Thu, Nov-01-01, 02:23
Oh, sure... make me think about that!

Yeah, yeah.... I still have over hundred to go (113, in fact). But I can't even think of it like that.... I have to take it in ten-pound increments or I'll go crazy.

But it's important to acknowledge where I have to get every now and then. :D

Dizz
Thu, Nov-01-01, 09:51
Amandoso, your braver than I. I can't even do 10lb increments I look for 2lbs and am thrilled to see that!

I do eat the nuts - mixed nuts, no salt. Of course it is in small amounts but it satisfies a need to "munch" haha a pacifier of sorts. Whatever works is my motto.



:thup:

Kirkwood
Thu, Nov-01-01, 10:44
I've been jumping for joy all morning because I made it through Halloween without eating ANY of the 10 bags of candy I bought. Unfortunately, where are neighborhood averages around 100 kids, we had less than 40 - a lot of candy left over. Stupid terrorists. I sent 1/2 of it with my husband to work, and 1/2 to the neighbors kids. Of course, he's not all that happy because he's trying to live this WOL with me, and he said I'm making it hard for him.

I can't imagine succeeding out there without his support. How do those of you do it who have to cook 2 dinners everyday?

--Kirkwood

BaileyWS
Thu, Nov-01-01, 11:32
I know about the Halloween candy ... I always overbuy because I'd hate run out ... now I have alot to give away too.

Regarding cooking two meals: I just cook what I want and then supplement with a potato/pasta/corn/etc. Then, again, we're pretty simple eaters. Last night it was fajitas ... I ate all the insides but no tortillas.

And the other night I made spaghetti for my daughter (it's her favorite and she had a bad day) ... I made meatballs ... I added them to the sauce for them. Oh, maybe I need to tell you that I use jars of sauce -- Prego or Ragu (easy!) ... but for me ... I put a few in an oven-proof dish, mixed them with sauteed peppers, mushrooms, and a little bit of onion, covered them all with grated mozzarella -- put it in the oven until the cheese melted (under the broiler, actually). Yum ...

Ka3n
Thu, Nov-01-01, 12:15
I put a few in an oven-proof dish, mixed them with sauteed peppers, mushrooms, and a little bit of onion, covered them all with grated mozzarella -- put it in the oven until the cheese melted (under the broiler, actually). Yum ... Wendy, why not post that recipie in the LC Kitchen so everyone can read it. It sounds fabulous!

DIZZ:
I can't even do 10lb increments I look for 2lbs and am thrilled to see that!
That's exactly how I have to do it. :) Although lately I've been estatic over one pound loss!!! It's coming slow but steady.
I feel better anyways. That counts. BUt, I know what you mean about the 2 pound increments. ;) If I had to go 10 pound incriments as slowly as mine is coming off, I'd go crazy! :daze:

Victoria
Sat, Nov-03-01, 08:21
Hi Mari!!!
What a great idea! I know I can relate. It's good to know their are folks who have as much weight to lose. I feel that I finally figured out why I got so big. I've been concerned about my health and feeling like I wanted to hide from the world because of my weight. But now that's all changing, because low carbing is the answer. I've been working on this since this summer, and I've lost mucho inches. Even my wedding ring is getting too loose! I haven't bought any new clothes yet. I like having them baggy on me. It makes me feel successful! But soon I will have to, before they fall off ;)
Looking forward to hearing from you again. Do well!!! Let's encourage each other and pray for each other. Victoria

BaileyWS
Sat, Nov-03-01, 11:40
Originally posted by Ka3n
Wendy, why not post that recipie in the LC Kitchen so everyone can read it. It sounds fabulous!

Done

Andy Davies
Sat, Nov-03-01, 16:01
Hi Victoria, and welcome,

Like you, I would also like to thank Mari for starting up this thread - it's a real winner.

I sometimes sit and try to puzzle out why it feels so comfortable, and is so popular with everybody. I have wondered if it is because we are all in the same boat, of having a long way to go, whether we just relate to each other's experiences all the time, because we've been there ourselves, or whether because we have probably been more taunted for our size than those with less to lose, it has made us appreciate others treating us with respect and as equals. But who knows? All I can say is that it feels natural and comfortable to come in here and discuss any topic, and just know that you are not going to be treated rudely, or be jeered or sneered at, as I am sure we have all been elsewhere.

So, congratulations for starting a low-carb way of life, for joining this forum and finding this thread. 3 good choices.

Andy

Andy Davies
Sat, Nov-03-01, 16:05
Thanks Firespirit.

I'd say you've been making your own mark, too.

Andy

Kirkwood
Sat, Nov-03-01, 18:51
I like your plan name, Andy! You da man for controlling the need fish, chips & pints. Lord knows that's what I ate & drank when I went to visit England! [Loved your country, and want to go back ASAP!]

--Kirkwood

Andy Davies
Sat, Nov-03-01, 20:38
Thanks - and how cleverly you capture British culture - well, a large part of it, anyway! I've heard your country's pretty impressive, too!

Andy

Ka3n
Sat, Nov-03-01, 22:31
I sometimes sit and try to puzzle out why it feels so comfortable, and is so popular with everybody. I have wondered if it is because we are all in the same boat, of having a long way to go, whether we just relate to each other's experiences all the time, because we've been there ourselves, or whether because we have probably been more taunted for our size than those with less to lose, it has made us appreciate others treating us with respect and as equals. But who knows? All I can say is that it feels natural and comfortable to come in here and discuss any topic, and just know that you are not going to be treated rudely, or be jeered or sneered at, as I am sure we have all been elsewhere.
Yep. So true. :)

BaileyWS
Sun, Nov-04-01, 15:09
Hey,

I finally got around to 1) starting a journal and 2) putting my picture on this forum ... it's kind of fun, you know, seeing everyone's pic.

Regarding the fish and chips ... I heard a joke recently ...

A group of nuns were eating in a neighboring monastery. They had the best fish and chips they had ever eaten and wanted to meet the chefs ...

In the kitchen they met the man who made the fish ... "you got it", he said, "I'm the fish friar." And behind him a short fellow said, "and I'm the chip monk."

Cute, huh?

Ka3n
Sun, Nov-04-01, 16:06
Hi Wendy! :wave: I love your picture! Cute joke, or did that really happen? (I'm sooo gulible!) ;)

fctimmons
Mon, Nov-05-01, 12:56
I AM READY!

I HAVE to lose some of this body. I mean I have enough here for three regular sized people. No reason to keep it all to myself. I have been huge (400lbs+) for 20 years and 300+ for most of the time before that.

I have a number of friends that have done really well on a no/low card program and I think this is a great plan for me - since almost 100% of "ME" is a product of CARBOHYDRATES. :D

I have all of the books, pamphlets, web-pages, etc. and am ready to begin. I lost 40 pounds on Weight-Watchers and have kept it off for 2 years - now I need to jump off the ledge and REALLY GET TO WORK!.

I think this website and message board ar GREAT -

Oh well - Here I go! :wave:

Kirkwood
Mon, Nov-05-01, 13:41
Way to go, Frank! Stay with us - you can do it! :D

Andy Davies
Mon, Nov-05-01, 14:00
Hi Frankie, and welcome.

Why not browse around the site and pick up some ideas and inspiration. As soon as you want information or support, shout out, and you will get it. Usually, as soon as someone starts following this way of eating (WOE), it raises practical questions, and these can be answered for you. One good plan is to start a journal in the "Bootcamp" section, so that your daily hurdles of getting to grips with this new WOE can be assisted and overcome as you encounter them.

You have definitely made a good decision to choose this WOE. It will clearly be a long journey, and you have to accept from the outset that you are talking about more than a year. However, you have to take your eyes off the end result for now, and focus on small individual targets along the route, of between 2 pounds and 15 pounds. Each target represents progress. Others have done it. If you approach it with determination, so can you.

Good luck, we'll also be here for you.

Andy

Natrushka
Mon, Nov-05-01, 14:11
Originally posted by fctimmons
I think this website and message board ar GREAT -
Oh well - Here I go! :wave:

Welcome Frankie! Congrats on choosing LC and making that commitment to your health. I agree with you 100%; this forum is wonderful :)

Why not stop by "Introductions" and say hello as well?

Nat

Ka3n
Tue, Nov-06-01, 11:15
I have all of the books, pamphlets, web-pages, etc. and am ready to begin. I lost 40 pounds on Weight-Watchers and have kept it off for 2 years - now I need to jump off the ledge and REALLY GET TO WORK!. Forty pounds is a great achievment, Frankie! :thup: I agree that this site is wonderful. :D I think it's the best on the Internet because of the caring people here :p and all of the resouces. the LC WOL (way of life) is the best way for so many of us. I know that I feel so much better eating this way. :thup:
Keep posting and let us know how you're doing. :wave:

Kirkwood
Tue, Nov-06-01, 12:01
Well, I blew it at lunch today - and, believe it or not, it was on salsa. I planned on having a little with my pork rinds for lunch, and before I knew it, I ate 1/2 a jar. Can't decide if it because it just tasted so good, and I hadn't had anything like it in a long time, or just because my body was craving something in the vegetables & spices it hasn't had in a while. Probably the former! The salsa tasted great though - does anyone know of a brand that has less than 2 grms of carbs per serving? If you make it yourself, does that help lower the carb count? I'm assuming not, since you are still dealing with tomatoes.

Take care!

A thin me!
Tue, Nov-06-01, 12:15
Hi! I am new to this board and this diet. Okay, I'm a fatty.
I weigh about 300 lbs. My scale does not balance, the dr. kind - so I must be more than that. Very depressing.

Otenn, I find your entires inspiration and hopeful.
Please contact me at Luvskipper~MSN.Com. I wanted to send you a private message, but I was denied. Please email me!! You are great. :daizy:

I am so tired of being fat. I wear a size 24 and sometimes, they are tight. I REFUSE TO BE ANY BIGGER< I REFUSE TO BUY BIGGER CLOTHES> I REFUSE TO BE FAT!! I WANT TO BE THIN.
I am ashamed of how I look and hide in my home when I can.

I have a daughter and I am a leader of 6th grade girl scouts and how am I supposed to be their role model when they are talking fashion, clothes and etc?? Some role model. I also want my daughter to be proud of me and I know that sometimes she is not and that hurts.

Does anyone have suggestions for fast food - because sometimes I take the girls there or sometimes it is dinner. What do you do, order a hamburger and toss the bun? What else or where else can you eat?

Eggs and bacon or similiar for breakfast w/coffee. Lunch is 1 cup salad w/meat product and drink. Dinner - 1 cup salad and meat again. Sugar free Jello for dessert, right? During the day, you can snack on cheese, or meat or veggies and drink water. Am I correct so far? I have bought and read the book 6 times and have gone to the store twice to get what I need. I even bought the strips. Do I have it right?

Please give me ideas, or tell me what pitfalls to avoid. I really want to succeed this time. I do not know how this board works, but if you have patience with me I will do my part and help you. Lets do this together.

Thanks for reading and I look forward to your ideas, menus and suggestions. :wiggle:
P

aiya
Tue, Nov-06-01, 12:24
I have a couple of pounds to go to reach 100lbs gone, and then I have another hundred to lose. I seem to be stuck here. Part of it may be that I've taken on a bit too much and I'm stressed out. I'm eating carefully, but not exercising as much as I could.
I do think that when you're very fat, you have some different issues, like how to exercise without hurting yourself, and how to make changes when you may have very little energy. Also, no one notices the first 60-75 pounds! There's also the matter of being very conspicuous, and so not feeling great about going to the gym or a support group.
On the plus side, we burn a lot of calories! :lol:

Aiya

numberonewendy
Tue, Nov-06-01, 12:37
Welcome a thin me,

I see your following the Atkins woe and have read the book six times...wtg....I"m still trying to finish reading it...LOL

I hear you on your complaints and although you consider yourself fat per say. I can't help but think big and beautiful.

Just being invovled with the girls must be a positive for your daughter, we must look inside of ourselves and see if its more us that is embarrassed then the kids. They love us no matter what weight we are at. Weight has nothing to do with role model hon, keep that in mind. Big women know how to handle fashion too :)

Now, for coming to this woe, I would like to think folks are doing it for their health and also benifiting by losing weight.

Yes, when stuck in a fast food place to eat, leave out the bun. There are a lot of places you can eat at, just omit somethings and add a salad.

Wonderful to see your understanding the concept. Now just relax, learn, and enjoy the results. Remember, it took time to gain the weight, it will take time to see it leave :D

Looking forward to reading about your succcess!

Welcome Ayia,

Energy, yeah, that is a big one. I too had no energy. How about starting small at home with exercise. Then like myself as you go down your ready to head out with others? Truly, though, just to let you know, I didn't start exercising until just these past couple of weeks. I just concentrated on my food intake, and the weight started coming off.

mazdababe
Tue, Nov-06-01, 15:21
I am new to this WOE also. I tried it once before, but went back to the old carb way.....I just started over and have lost 3 lbs.....not much, but so far so good.

It can be very hard sometimes being an overweight or "fat" person. I have been that way most of my life, except for very short periods. Anyway, like they have said, it is an attitude, you can and should be loved no matter what size you are! Just try to be positive about something every day.....it helps!

:) I have found this forum to be very helpful, and am trying to keep a journal. It helps to keep track of what you eat during the day, especially the carbs.

About fast foods :idea: I generally will eat salads when i go out....not always a great thing, but good....also burgers without the buns...chicken..a great salad is chicken caesar.....yummy!

Thanks for listening!

A thin me!
Tue, Nov-06-01, 15:47
:Party:
Aiya:
100 Pounds!! Way to go!! I want to be a winner like you!!!
Celebrate - in a LC way, but that is a major accomplishment.

A thin me.

A thin me!
Tue, Nov-06-01, 15:55
Hi, I am new too. thanks for the suggestions of fast food.

Where in Chicago do you live?? I live in the northern subs. on the lake.

Talk soon,

A THIN ME :wave:

mazdababe
Tue, Nov-06-01, 16:01
Hey, A Thin Me!

I live in northern suburbs of chicago...north of O'Hare.

It gets easier.....just remember to exercise too....its not easy, but a little each day helps!

Andy Davies
Tue, Nov-06-01, 16:18
Welcome to 3 great new members here.

Lost in admiration for Aiya's success to date and determination for more. There may be some tips on "stallbusting" on the tips at the top of the home page. It could be the body re-adjusting itself to a fairly major change of size and shape, perhaps, and this might create a pause.

"A thin me" - there are recipes on this site already (see Karen's recipe slot).

Mazdababe - 3 pounds is a good start. Every long journey has to start with one step!

And the three of you are raising some very good new issues.

Look forward to seeing more. Certainly looks like we can all learn something from Aiya.

Andy

aiya
Tue, Nov-06-01, 18:55
Dear All,
Thanks for your replies. I enjoyed reading them. It has been great to fit into places and clothes I'd "outgrown."

I think the trick for me so far has been educating myself. I have studied everything I could find about insulin resistance. Since I have diabetes, my blood sugar monitor tells me what works and what doesn't. I think the most useful thing (and the very hardest) has been doing something Dr. Berstein suggested. He says that if you get over-full your liver will react by shooting out more insulin, which messes up your whole appetite/metabolism system. I've seen this to be true by monitoring my blood sugars. When I don't stuff myself (even with lettuce!) or starve myself I lose weight pretty steadily without being hungry or tired.

Thank you all for being here. Keep up your good work.

Aiya

otenn
Tue, Nov-06-01, 19:01
Aiya:

Don't mean to be rude, but every time I see your username (or real name perhaps?) I have a little laugh. In my husband's first language, "aiya" is the equivalent of the English term "ouch!". As in "it hurts". My 18 month old is just starting to talk and so far, it is one of his favorite words... :baby:

Smiles,

Mari

numberonewendy
Tue, Nov-06-01, 19:02
OMG I didn't read your earlier post right ....you lost 100 lbs....Wow, girl, now thats amazing! :cheer:

aiya
Tue, Nov-06-01, 19:15
Dear Mari,
I have been told that Aiya is the Celtic goddess of power, and that it is the word by which the Suquamish Native Amricans summon their spirits.

But I suspect Ouch! is a much closer tranlation when it comes to me. :daze:

Aiya

Ka3n
Tue, Nov-06-01, 23:21
Aiya,
First let me congratulate you on your fantastic weight loss!! :D :thup:
Second, your handle is so cool. The Suquamish Chief, Chief Seattle is someone that I respect greatly. My favorite quote of his is, "This we know, the earth does not belong to man, man belongs to the earth. All things are connected, like blood which connects one family. Whatever befalls the eartth befalls the children of the earth. Man did not weave the web of life--he is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself." AND the Celtic Godess of power...ummmm, me tinks me knows how u lost 100 pounds. You've got connections...hee hee :p
I'm glad that you're here. :wave:

russ
Wed, Nov-07-01, 01:32
:wave:
Hi all. This is my first visit. I like what I see. I'd never thought to look for others on low-carb on the 'net til a link brought me here.

This is my third time doing Atkins. I really blew it the first two.

This time around, I've lost the first 13 of roughly 115 lbs. And I intend to stick around for the long-haul.

numberonewendy
Wed, Nov-07-01, 05:34
Welcome Russ,

Good luck on this third time. This is a great site for support. I know without this site I probably would have given up at some point too.

Keep up with the wonderful weight loss and keep posting :wave:

Lessara
Wed, Nov-07-01, 06:22
I tried Atkins about 5 years ago but I had no support at all and I didn't lose weight and I got sick.
This time I researched abit, got more assertive with my doctor and this diet turned out to work great for me! This site is the main reason for my success, to read other people's stories and know that I'm "normal" is a wonderful feeling.
I too have a long way to go but I just look at how much I lost and how loose my clothes are and just enjoy the trip as I go. :daizy:

aiya
Wed, Nov-07-01, 09:48
Welcome Russ,

I read somewhere that people who quit smoking permanently have quit unsuccessfully an average of 5 times before they get it right. I try to think of LC as my way of life, and any other styles of eating I may do are just unpleasant side trips.

Aiya

Andy Davies
Wed, Nov-07-01, 10:35
There you are, Aiya, you're invaluable already - I knew you'd be an asset.

Hi Russ, welcome aboard.

Andy

russ
Wed, Nov-07-01, 11:18
My first time, I was skeptical, but I decided to try it for two weeks. That 2 wks. wound up being 6 wks., where I lost about 35 lbs. But I was going on vacation and knew I wouldn't be able to do it. I made up my mind to go back on it after I got back. But I wanted to have pizza and beer one time before I went back on it. Long story short, I got a DUI that night, and for months, I honestly didn't care about diet. It wasn't worth it.

I'm lucky to have a low resistance, and I have an active job loading trucks. As long as I continue to eat right, everything will fall into place.

Cheryl R
Sat, Nov-10-01, 22:22
I have over 100 pounds to lose. Right now I am looking at small 5 pound goals. I'm about to hit my 1st goal. I'm down about 4&1/2 pounds so far. I will only weigh once a week on Tuesday...since that is when I started. I am going to stick to this for the long haul...I got my husband on the band wagon too. He's starting out slower though, he's diabetic and really wants to watch his blood sugar a few times a day. He's been running in the 130-140 range and just about 4 days of cutting carbs, his morning number was down to 111 this morning. He hasn't read the Atkins book yet but he plans to. Mean while he's just cutting out the big carbs...like pastries, cakes and stuff that he should have given up last year when he was diagnosed. He doesn't have 100 pounds to lose, but I have more than 100 to lose.
I read most of this thread...it has over 200 posts in it...I think closer to 300. I've been reading it for hours. But...now I know I am not alone. :spin: :spin: :eek: :eek: :thup:
Cheryl

russ
Sat, Nov-10-01, 22:39
The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step--Chinese proverb :)

gecolon
Sun, Nov-11-01, 10:16
Well, I never thought that I would need to lose over 100lbs, but low and behold here I am. I don't know when and where it happened, but it did. I have been on this woe since the end of August and I never thought that I would be so glad to be in the 200's. reading through your post has been an inspiration to me and it really helps to see people who needed to lose more than 100lbs succeed.

Victoria
Sun, Nov-11-01, 10:29
Dear Gecolon,
Just a high five for you for getting under 300 lbs. That too has been a big thing for me. But I am not too far under 300 lbs. , can't wait to be farther away from that mark. But I am truly thrilled to see the 200 range! :roll: Well, gotta go, my little son wants to go for a walk with me :D I'm thankful that I want to go for a walk with him. Since losing some of the weight, my feet don't hurt like before. And walking is enjoyable again. Good going Gecolon, keep it up. I'm rooting for you! :cheer: Victoria

gecolon
Sun, Nov-11-01, 11:45
Dear Victoria :wave: ,
Thank you for your reply. Your stats are similar to mine. I can walk now too. It is so weird because I have so much weight to lose, but people are noticing. It is like I still look big and like myself (body shape), but just a smaller version (I'm melting:)) . It feels good. I've been at the same weight now for about 3wks. I've been cheating. There is something about my father that can set me off. He came by yesterday and as soon as he left I was eating ice cream straight out of the container. Whatever it is I need to let it go and avoid him for a while. Oh well thanks for letting me vent.

BaileyWS
Sun, Nov-11-01, 13:51
Yes, Gecolon, it's important to know what our triggers are in sticking to any woe. I know that when I get depressed I crave the sweets and chocolate ... yes, ice cream is a big temptation. It was always my "feel good/reward" food. So when I'm feeling down (which I do every year in the fall) I reach for the Breyer's mint chocolate chip. Unfortunately, it's also my daughter's comfort food, so it's always in the house ... I even made a half-gallon of homemade a couple of weeks ago for her ... and I just HAD to have a scoop. It was decadent.

I guess one scoop every few weeks is not going to throw me too far off ... but I need to be very careful and intentional about it ...

Welcome to all of you new members ... glad to see you here.

gecolon
Sun, Nov-11-01, 14:22
:) Thanks Wendy. I thought that I would be able to cheat occasionally and bounce right back , but after these past 2wks. I've changed that thought pattern. For me Lasagna is my trigger food. My DH [who whenever he is feeling insecure decides he wants to cook one of my favorite meals] cooked Lasagna 2 Saturdays ago. Something about the pasta makes me crave sugar and bread for days. If I have a piece of candy then I don't get the cravings. Go figure. I've been looking for the supplement that they say helps with cravings, but so far I can't find it. I am going to NYC next weekend so I am sure I will find it there.

BaileyWS
Sun, Nov-11-01, 14:48
Originally posted by gecolon
:) Something about the pasta makes me crave sugar and bread for days. If I have a piece of candy then I don't get the cravings.

Yes, where did I read? Was it in Atkins or the Zone or both? That different carbs get into our system quicker and spikes the insulin higher ... pasta ... refined flour ... is the fastest. So it makes sense to me that a lasagna meal would trigger more cravings than pure sugar in candy. ... and one small peice of candy doesn't have as many carbs as a plate of pasta.

Regarding triggers ... it's not even the foods that trigger us that we need to keep track of ... but the psychological triggers ... for you, you mentioned your father, for me it's seasonal depression ... and holidays ... I just think, it's a holiday I can treat myself ... but that can lead to a very slippery slope ... if I do that, I have to be sure I'm well grounded ...

Cheryl R
Sun, Nov-11-01, 15:06
Grounded for the Holidays?????

I wish I could get grounded for the holidays. I am cooking at my house. How do you cook stuffing, pies, yams and all of that without eating it. This will be my biggest challenge...but I'll do it. I am not going to deprive my guests of their Traditional Holiday... I had one person tell me not to serve pies and to just have salad instead of potato... Just because I'm on a special diet I am not going to tell others what they have to do. Yes I could choose not to serve a traditional meal...but I could also choose not to have my family over to my 1st Holiday in our new home. My mother in law is going to bring the pies...so at least I won't have to bake those. The hard part for me will be the sweet potatos...it's my favorite. I'm new to Atkins since Nov 1st. I know I can have the turkey...but not the gravy..I can have the olives... but not the sweet pickles??? I can have the salad but not the potatos...
My husband said, that we could treat ourselves to a reward meal like in the Hellars diet...but that we should eat all the carbs in one hour...and then once that hour has passed...then get right on plan. I'm really curious what everyone else is doing. I am going to go to the recipe part of this forum and check it out. Maybe I can find a treat I can fix for myself that day.

MocaGirl
Sun, Nov-11-01, 16:29
I'm a wannabee loser of aprox 110 pounds. Long way to go but not giving up!!!!!! Good Luck 2 everyone*********** :p

Jessica :angel:

Andy Davies
Sun, Nov-11-01, 17:26
Hi to all new members here.

Just one thing to add, from personal experience. This idea of consuming carbs for a limited period does not really work with me. I'm OK when I have none, which is usually. But when I think I'll just have a limited amount for a limited period of time - it does not work! Why? Because once I get the taste, I'm addicted, and there's no stopping me for quite a while. Best not to start. If I don't have any carbs at all, I don't miss them and I'm quite happy, but there is great danger in thinking I'll just have one . And people who say "Come on, one won't hurt, will it?" are wrong. It most certainly will. So, if you're anything like me, you might have to view this business of eating carbs for just an hour a day with some suspicion. The funny thing is that the longer I have been low-carbing (about 15 months now) the worse this gets. It was never a problem before, but is getting to be quite a major one now. So be warned. Carbs are not so easy to control as you think they are going to be! Finally, and this will sound quite strange, the only carby product I have some control over, and appear able to eat without disastrous results is chocolate! The worst thing for me at the moment is the sweet-tasting breakfast cereals which my children eat. Temptation always seems worse when it's in the house, but then if there wasn't a real possibility of giving in, it wouldn't be temptation, would it? Time to show a bit of character - and I'll start straight away tomorrow!

A thin me!
Sun, Nov-11-01, 18:15
Hi C:

There is a new thread started called" What are you doing for the holidays." You might want to check it out.

Thanks

A THIN ME>

P.S. I feel the same way!!

Dizz
Sun, Nov-11-01, 18:24
I looked on the home page for that thread and didn't find it. Can you help? Thanks Dizz

MocaGirl
Sun, Nov-11-01, 19:15
I to am like u and CANNOT, CANNOT, consume carbs and expect to control it!!!!!! I went down that road once and 50 pounds heavier here i am, so I learned a Valuable Lesson. "Do the Diet Properly." Dont try to modify it to suit your needs.

My body's needs is it needs to lose weight for health issues and by me putting Carbs in my Body is doing no Good.


I consume around 20-30 grams a day from a salad or veggies or the Atkins Bars and thats it. I am content that way.


Everyone is different and I dont say this is the only way it can be done but for me this IS the only way!!!!!!!!!! Good Luck Peeps.


Jessica :roll:

Andy Davies
Sun, Nov-11-01, 19:29
Hi Jessica and welcome!

And thanks for your support!

I agree exactly with your position, that everyone has their own way, but for me (and for you) it is not safe to think you can ever control carbs. Also like you, I am happiest at around 20-30 g of carbs per day, although I tend to get mine from fruit juice or fresh fruit.

Good luck to you. I'll be with you in spirit.

And I have a special affinity for your needs, if you ever want support.

Best wishes,

Andy

MocaGirl
Sun, Nov-11-01, 19:32
Wow, your weight loss is Phenominal!!!!!!!!! Awesome :cheer: Your almost at your Goal. If u don't mind Andy could u explain your Diet to me????????? Is it similiar to Atkins??????? I'm always looking to learn about new Diets.


Thankx 4 the info, we have alot in common. Talk 2 u soon :spin:


Jessica :wave:

Ruth
Sun, Nov-11-01, 21:24
Originally posted by Dizz
I looked on the home page for that thread and didn't find it. Can you help? Thanks Dizz

The "What are you doing for the Holidays?" thread is located in Triple Digit Club, which has more that just this thread! Come to think of it, maybe members think that this thread IS TDC, but it's not, it's only 1 thread, albeit a loooong one. :)

Ka3n
Sun, Nov-11-01, 21:27
I agree exactly with your position, that everyone has their own way, but for me (and for you) it is not safe to think you can ever control carbs. Also like you, I am happiest at around 20-30 g of carbs per day, although I tend to get mine from fruit juice or fresh fruit. Me too, that's why I didn't do well on CA. Too many carbs. And Andy, I'm sooo looking forward to the day that fruit doesn't trigger the cravings! :yum: I love fruit. Do you find that fruit with high carbs, like bananas trigger your carb cravings at all?
BTW, you are doing so well! Congrats. When do we get to see pictures?

Andy Davies
Mon, Nov-12-01, 06:48
Hi Katherine,

I have to be careful with fruit, because it can easily put me over my carb-tolerance limit, and bananas are one of the highest fruits for carbs. But I do not eat vegetables (my choice, the diet would certainly allow it) so I rather feel I ought to eat fruit, and out of loyalty to my brother-in-law, who comes from Honduras, I do eat the odd banana. No, I don't find they start a craving, but of all the fruits, they do seem to me the most indigestible.

As for photographs, I do not have a digital camera or scanner. I have been told by Sabine (Madpiano) how to do this, but it costs rather more money than I can afford at present. Nothing sinister or evasive about not including a picture to date, just practicalities. But things do change in time, and eventually it will happen. Can't see it in the immediate future, but it is at the back of my mind.

Glad you also share my low-carb "needs", like Jessica. It is always reassuring to know that someone else shares your metabolism (hence the success of this forum and particularly this thread). No-one likes to feel too "odd" or unusual in terms of metabolism, I think.

I have been reading in your journal how you have forsaken all dairy products. I, too, have done that in the past, and the only dairy product I regularly consume now is cheese. This is because it has a very high fat content, and combines well with such foods as white fish, which have high protein content, but virtually no fat. I find my meals are most successful in helping weight-loss when they are high in protein and fat, but low in or preferably devoid of carbs. I drink tea and coffee black, without sugar or other sweeteners, and although this did take some getting used to at the time, I really like it that way now, and it saves all the problems of trying to find sugar substitutes, and the worry of their reputed addictiveness. Likewise with milk substitutes. Especially in the kinds of tea I have seen you discussing, like Earl Grey and green teas, which are definitely much better without milk or milk substitutes. Storage is not a problem, as it can be with milk substitutes, and although tea and coffee taste horrible that way to start with, you do get used to them, and eventually learn to distinguish between different brands or types, just by the subtle differences in taste.

Well, that's enough from me. Time to give someone else a go!

Andy

Ka3n
Mon, Nov-12-01, 11:49
Especially in the kinds of tea I have seen you discussing, like Earl Grey and green teas, which are definitely much better without milk or milk substitutes. Storage is not a problem, as it can be with milk substitutes, and although tea and coffee taste horrible that way to start with, you do get used to them, and eventually learn to distinguish between different brands or types, just by the subtle differences in taste. I've always been really sensitive to taste. Always really picky about what brand of Earl Grey (profound differences) and always had a favorite green tea, too. Artifical flavors never did it for me, even as a kid. Being so aware of the subtle diffrences has allowed me to have wonderful experieces. I feel like I'm re-training myself, or rather re-directing myself. Your words are very encouraging as always. Esp. your thoughts on fruits. BTW, have you ever tried to take Amalyse when you eat fruit?

Andy Davies
Mon, Nov-12-01, 16:50
What is Amalyse?

I've never heard of it.

I do sometimes eat cream (double or whipping) with fruit, and during the summer months when fruits of many types were in season, I often (almost daily) had fresh fruit salads with cream, and used up all of my daily carb allowance in doing so. On such occasions, I do not have the fruit juice I otherwise consume. In the UK, if you go into supermarkets just before closing time, you can get fruit at or near its use-by date at cheap cost, and the cream is usually reduced by then as well, so you can get very good deals. The only uncertainty is you never know which types you are going to get, and this led me to try some weird and wonderful combinations - an experiment I regard as very successful, because it has introduced me to some unexpected new fruit salads. I never add sugar or anything else to these fruit salads.

Andy

aiya
Mon, Nov-12-01, 18:34
Dear All,
I enjoy all your posts so much, you keep me going.

I had a very weird thing happen Saturday night. I was at a church dinner, sitting with a group of my women friends, and we were laughing and teasing each other. I was having a great time. Then the woman kitty-corner to me said,
"You're Aiya, right?" Well, this was a little strange because we had been sitting eating dinner for about 15 minutes. She is in the choir with me,has been since she joined the church a year or so ago. Then, to my surprised look, she said
"You've lost a great deal of weight, haven't you? I didn't recognize you, I guess I haven't seen you since summer, I just figured out who you are."
My friends looked at me and smiled, and said,
"Yes . she has lost a lot. " and we went back to our conversation.
The more I think about this the weirder I feel. I guess this woman has only seen me in my choir robe for several months. but it disturbs me to think I am unrecognisable. It's not like I dyed my hair or cut it. I think I look like myself, only thinner. I'm not the wallflower type, that you wouldn't notice, I'm often the center of attention.
I'm not even sure why I'm so freaked out.

Anybody had a similar experience? Any wise thoughts?

MocaGirl
Mon, Nov-12-01, 20:14
My ex's sister told my ex that I should "watch out" because she saw me and I looked like I had "Lost Too Much Weight in such a short period of time." :confused:

Granted, the Atkins Diet has been a great success 4 me but I don't feel that I'm losing at any different rate then anyone else.

I think she was just shocked to see me a little thinner so fast. I feel that as long as you feel mentally and physically well, there are no limits to how much one can lose in any amount of time!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll: :spin: :daze: :wave:


So, I took it as a compliment!!!!!!! Comments from people are gonna come no matter what especially if their used to seeing you "Fat" for so long. Also, it tends to come from people who have weight issues as well. That's only what I've noticed.

Great Work everyone!!!!!!! Keep posting. :p



Jessica :thup:

aiya
Mon, Nov-12-01, 20:19
Thanks, MocaGirl!

Aiya

Ka3n
Tue, Nov-13-01, 07:09
ANdy, Amalyse is the digestive enzyme that breaks down Carbs., No, I don't find they start a craving, but of all the fruits, they do seem to me the most indigestible. In case you wanted a banana and didn't want to experience the indigestible part, it may help. Just a suggestion, problably more along the lines of wishful thinking on my part and I wanted you to enjoy the experience without the 'indigestible' aspect ;)
In the UK, if you go into supermarkets just before closing time, Cool! I'll keep that in mind when I get to have such treat! I went to a regular chain grocery store minutes before closing other night and the only little extra thing I got was the chilling looks of the check-out clerk. I read it in her eyes, "don't make me stay late!" ;) Not that I blamed her :) BTW, I understand about the photo-camera-scanner thing...although I'm betting that your before and after photos are awsome!

Andy Davies
Tue, Nov-13-01, 17:30
Hi Katherine,

I should have recognised the "yse" ending from my college days, although most natural enzymes seem to end in "ase". What do you do out there - market natural enzymes?

Aiya's before and after pictures would probably be more striking than mine. But I do seem to be on the brink of a change in physique: another few pounds and my shape will change to a basically upright one, with a couple of remaining bulges! I had an unexpected glimpse of this in the mirror the other day, before regaining a few pounds due to a carb lapse at the weekend which makes it necessary for me to re-lose 2 or 3 pounds I had lost last week but not yet declared. More striking in my case is the clothing I can now wear that I could not before - my waist size is at least 10 inches less than it was, and I can wear a new jacket underneath my old one. But I still have a way to go yet, and these last 40 pounds will make a far more noticeable difference to my physique.

Dizz
Tue, Nov-13-01, 17:47
But I still have a way to go yet, and these last 40 pounds will make a far more noticeable difference to my physique

It's so funny everyone notices the weight loss around the face, the chin, even "your chest" but seems the legs and the bottom are the last to be commented on. haha

I sometimes wonder if people are being kind and I only "think" I have lost weight below the waist. haha NOT TRUE. I know and I don't need the affirmation (except from the tape measure and I live for that).

Andy be true to yourself. You are a wonderful site to behold even with the extra 40 lbs.

Andy Davies
Tue, Nov-13-01, 18:09
Thanks for the vote of confidence, Dizz, but it's not what my children say!

MocaGirl
Wed, Nov-14-01, 19:31
was so shocked when she saw me and how much weight I've lost in the last few weeks. She wanted me to tell her What Diet I was on and what I did. She said SHE ONLY HAD 20 POUNDS TO LOSE AND WANTED IT OFF BY X MAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :confused:


She also said she didn't have the Willpower to do a diet through.


Now here's the two things running through my head. :rolleyes:

1) I have approx. 110 pounds to lose, she has only 20.

2) I can't give this woman willpower, it must come from within. Also, she could just read Dr. Atkin's NDR and get the info. I don't have any special secrets!!!!!!!!!!

Now, I'm not saying people who have only 20 pounds to lose don't have their own battle, it's just us 100 pound or more people face a different battle then just wanting to fit in the jeans from 2 months ago!!!!!!!!!!!


Catch my drift??????? Well, this is how I feel and I wish everyone here Luck NO MATTER HOW MUCH WEIGHT THEY HAVE TO LOSE!!!!!!!!!!


Jessica :wave: :daze: :spin: :roll:
:cheer: :hyper: :rheart:

BaileyWS
Wed, Nov-14-01, 19:54
Originally posted by MocaGirl

Now, I'm not saying people who have only 20 pounds to lose don't have their own battle, it's just us 100 pound or more people face a different battle then just wanting to fit in the jeans from 2 months ago!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes, I, too, have trouble relating to the people who are 10-20 pounds overweight and fighting to get back to a size 6. I've been overweight ever since puberty set in 30 years ago. I was never a size 6! I went directly from a girls 14 plus to a misses 14-16. That was 6th or 7th grade.

There will be a time, however, when I have lost over a hundred pounds and only have 10 or 20 more to go ... I look forward to that day! I expect it could more than a year from now ... maybe two ... but that's OK. I'm in this for life now.

I'm also not in this for reasons of vanity ... My motivation in health not looks ... this culture we live in is much, much, much too consumed with appearance and I have felt a need to rebel ... Our ideas of beauty must grow to include people of all body sizes and shapes. Beauty comes from character -- from self-confidence and compassion and a sense of humor. Beauty comes in respect for all human beings. I think there is beauty in sensitivity, romance, and passion for life.

just my two cents ....

tamarian
Wed, Nov-14-01, 19:58
Originally posted by BaileyWS
I expect it could more than a year from now ... maybe two ... but that's OK. I'm in this for life now.


Wendy, this is the right attitude. Yes, some have a couple on moths of battle to reach goal, and some of us require a couple years to get there. It's the same battle, but we need more endurance! :)

Wa'il

MocaGirl
Wed, Nov-14-01, 20:10
I too feel the same way our Society as a whole is sooooooooo consumed by Looks that I don't feel like I want to Buy Mags anymore................... :confused: :rheart:


I feel left out. I am like u Wendy and Doing this as a lifelong thing and not just as a temp. phase to fit in the Latest Designer Jeans. It would be nice but it's not a possibility right now. I'm giving myself like 6-8 months to be at my Goal Weight.


Your doing great Wendy so keep me posted on your Sucess!!!!!!!!! Good Luck 2 u..............WE WILL DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Good Luck To everyone..............No matter what your weight loss is, any weight over the Desired weight is unhealthy.

Jessica

Ka3n
Wed, Nov-14-01, 21:48
Andy:What do you do out there - market natural enzymes? Nope, I don't sell anything. Although I'm taking writing classes and hope to sell some of my writing soon. For my non-fiction class I've been buying armloads of magazines to research. I don't feel like I want to Buy Mags anymore.. You have such a valid point MocaGirl. I feel like women's body images are distorted in these magazines. They look like Anorexic women with implants to me now. or else boyish a-sexual waif types.
When I first came to this site, my goal was 125. which at 5'2" is a comfortable weight. At one time I weighed around 100 and wore a size 0. At that time I thought 125 was fat.
Anyways, I was looking at this picture of me when I weighed 170 and now I think that I look great,you know curvy and nice like a woman should look. But, at the time the photo was taken, I thought that I looked fat and ugly.
It's all about how we think about ourselves. I'm still working on that part of myself. Looking at the photos in magazines now makes me feel angry instead of inferior! I'm not anorexic, I don't have implants and I'm not a boyish waif--I am woman!!

Victoria
Thu, Nov-15-01, 00:13
Dear Katherine and Moca Girl,
Just wanted to validate what you guys were saying about the images of women in magazines. Ugh!! It wasn't quite so bad when I was a teenager in the 70's. Now a days the "women" displayed in magazines look about 15 and look like they haven't developed yet. No one can live up to that!
I put 160 as my goal weight but I know I'll be thrilled when I get under 200. I haven't seen that weight since the early 80's.
I hope now that I am losing, that I will appreciate every 10 pounds or so, and not wait to enjoy my weight loss only when I'm done. I think the major thing is getting control of my weight, instead of feeling out of control. And every little bit that I lose, makes me feel better physically and emotionally for the victory.
I'm so thrilled that I lost another 2 lbs. that I had to change my stats. Little victories!!! :wave: Victoria

Lessara
Thu, Nov-15-01, 10:58
A great women's magazine is Mode. It has pictures and ads with full size women. I love it because to talks about all aspects of our daily lives plus fun stuff. I recommend it to anyone. :cool:

lilwannabe
Fri, Nov-16-01, 03:50
I screwed up on induction today...

I am so frustrated with the scale not moving...I was so looking forward to getting on there this morning and seeing the numbers go down...yet I get on...and I am up a pound.

I have been so faithful in following Atkins...I have been real careful...and still no change.....so...A couple of days ago I bought a sugar free...relatively low carb chocolate bar...and thought that I would enjoy a section of it after I weighed. This was a mistake...I weighed...and spent the whole day in a miserable mood. So this evening...I took my section...then went back and had another section...then another...now I have just finished it.

So...I have sabotaged myself...but I will be back at it again tomorrow...back to day one of induction I guess...AAAAAAAArrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!...I am so mad at myself. I ought to know that the weight will not move quickly on me...I have yo-yo-ed myself into this...and so what if the d*** numbers don't move quickly...I have like the rest of my life....I guess I am just jealous when I read about all these people that are losing so much so fast. Don't get me wrong...I am happy for them...just envious that it is not me!

Andy Davies
Fri, Nov-16-01, 14:09
All this talk about people's perceptions of a "good" womanly shape is interesting. Hope you don't mind if I contribute a male view to this, though I don't promise it will be representative of most men's views, in fact I rather suspect the reverse. Firstly, classifying people (of either sex) in this way - i.e. by referring only to their outward physical appearance - is to de-humanise them.

Men and women are people, and their worth is considerably more than an automatic response triggered by prevailing trends of opinion. I hate the attitude of people whispering ( or even saying out loud) "she's fat". So what? Youi don't go round saying "She's black" or "She's lost a leg", unless you are a little child, and don't know any better yet.

Secondly, the outer packaging does not convey any sense of the qualities, attributes, skills or merits of the person within (not that you'd think so, the way job interviewers reject overweight applicants in favour of sleeker, but less competent, models). On the contrary, it is a good bet that the overweight person is going to be a nicer person, through suffering a lifetime of insults and sarcastic remarks, and because their efficiency and skills have always been overshadowed by their size.

In comparison, those people who so admire the advertisers' favoured body shape are usually superficial, trivial and shallow people with no more brains themselves than I could find in a field of retarded sheep. It is an inequity we suffer for our size. And as for personal preferences, I have long said that there is too much skinniness about women today. I like women to look like women, not pre-pubescent girls or rejects from a war-on-want poster.

And another thing. The "She's fat" people don't realise how much the person has had to fight just to get down to their current size, and would probably sneer at their months of effort anyway. It probably never occurs to them that overweight women were cursed with a metabolism which cannot cope with industrial society's preferred food type; in short that it's not their fault.

Do I want to subscribe to the views of such people? No. Do I want their preferences foisted onto me? No. Do I care what such people think about me, or my views? No. It does bother me that so many of these people are in postions of influence. But at least we can come here to be in contact with real and genuine people, who do not judge us for our size, and can offer help, support and guidance to our efforts.

Andy Davies
Fri, Nov-16-01, 14:24
Hi Lilwannabe,

Sorry, didn't mean to ignore you - somehow found myself on a soap box!

I can relate to both aspects of your post. I too have found to my cost that carbs cannot be controlled, when I think "One won't do any harm, surely?" and will be posting to that effect on my journal later this weekend.

Also, it is very dispiriting when you expect to find a weight loss, and there is not one, or worse still there is a gain.

The best crumb of advice or support I can offer was something I read in Bluugirl's journal: "I will lose this weight, sooner or later. I would prefer sooner, but will settle for later". If you focus on doing what you know is right, and try to ignore the scales for a while, you will find sooner or later that the weight takes care of itself. You appear to have a stubborn metabolism, so it could be a long fight, but this is not a race, is it? Put the carb lapse behind you and try to think of this as primarily a beneficial way of life. I'm sure you will find the weight loss does come...in time.

Andy

Sh'ra
Fri, Nov-16-01, 15:05
I just found this website today, and am thrilled to say that this is my second post (first on the Intro board); I'm very glad to have found this board in particular, as I am in that triple-digit group. I have spent my lunch and every break I have reading this one thread, and it has been an inspiration to me.

In particular, Wendy (Bailey), I want to say that your posts have inspired me greatly. I, too, want to lose the weight, not for looks so much as health and being able to do those things I used to love to do. My deciding factor, about 60 pounds ago, was when I went to the fair with my daughter, and we wanted to ride a behemoth called the Zipper. I have always loved carnival and amusement park rides, so I was particularly excited. However, when we went to get into the car, my legs and stomach were too big for the strap. It was completely humiliating to me to have to get back off that ride in front of hundreds of people because I was too fat for them to shut the door.

My daughter, of course, comforted me and told me it was stupid that only teeny people could ride (she's a teeny person herself at nearly 16), but it determined me to do something about it. I'm sure we could all describe (like my zipper ride and your mountain) some experience that was a catalyst to our desire to lose weight (too big for coach in airplanes, not fitting into movie theater seats or roller coaster seats, being rejected to ride a horse at a stable, etc.). I mostly just miss the activity, though - the sports, the running without feeling like I'd die or my ankles would give out - and other things I used to love to do. You all inspire me.

Andy - you posted awhile back that you didn't understand why your reaction to carbs was so much worse after 15 months on the program than it was in the beginning. Maybe I could shed a little light. When we eat a lot of carbs, it spikes the blood sugar; it also, in a chain reaction, raises serotonin levels and beta endorphin. After awhile, when these three areas are constantly working overtime, the nerve receptors stop working as well, and it takes more and more to raise them - that is one reason we see so many carb addicted people with incredible depression.

The Beta-endorphin is especially interesting to me - when we eat something like say, a candy bar, it can spike beta endorphin just as quickly as exercise in athletes - that's why it is such a sugar "rush," because with that release of BE, there is also a release of adrenaline. After a time, though, your body gets simply tired. If you release adrenaline often, the effect gets weaker and weaker, so you have to work harder and harder to get that effect (see the similarities between an alcoholic and a sugar addict? - same reason).

In your case, you have spent time on this plan, and your body has regulated itself much more. I would imagine you have less "down moods" than you used to, if you used to swing that direction. Your Beta-endorphin is back on a normal keel, and releases for the right reasons (same with your blood sugar and serotonin levels). Your adrenal gland is back on.

So, when you eat a little of the carbs that used to overuse the system, BANG!!! You get an instant BE rush, and a release of adrenaline. Your body wants MORE, and therefore craves all the harder for it. This is why an alcoholic can be okay in the beginning after giving up the booze, but if he slips once two years from now, whammo, he's off the wagon and in the pub again. Your system is now NORMAL, and therefore when you put refined sugar and refined flour into your body, it goes all out of whack.

In short (too late! :D ) you have "fixed" your body chemistry, so the nasty stuff has a stronger reaction when you use it, and a stronger craving after.


Again, all, thanks for being here, and just inspiring me.

Sh'ra

Andy Davies
Fri, Nov-16-01, 19:46
Thanks Sh'ra, very illuminating.

You obviously have a lot to offer.

Welcome aboard!

Andy

Kathie
Sat, Nov-17-01, 17:35
Hi Everyone!

First, way to go Mari and everyone. Especially the woman, sorry I already forgot your name, who has lost over 200 pounds around the 3rd thread!!! WOW! You are my idol!

I too have over 100 pounds. 180 is my frealistic goal at 5'11', but I would love to hit160, though. 145? Don't think it would ever be possible. But I am done with people telling me to just get comfortable you will never be little so....

well, ~#%$#~%$ to that! If Susan Powers can do it, so can I!!!

Kathie
Sat, Nov-17-01, 17:42
Oh,

It is Patti!!!!!

Patti, you rock! 187 pounds is an amazing accomplishment!
You go girl!
Kathie

firespirit
Sun, Nov-18-01, 23:49
Kathie,

well, ~#%$#~%$ to that! If Susan Powers can do it, so can I!!!

I have a friend who is really into Susan Powers, and I can remember thinking this exact same thing ;) Do you think it would help if I tried chanting it 3 times a day before my LC meals??? I think I might have a hard time pronouncing the dollar signs and number signs though :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

A thin me!
Mon, Nov-19-01, 06:40
HI

Remember - you used to see Susan Powers almost on every channel and infor-mmericals? Haven't heard anything about her in a long time until you people brought her up. I wonder what she is doing these days.

Anyone beside me want to own up to the fact that they bought her tapes, books and videos??


Have a good day,

A Thin Me

Sh'ra
Mon, Nov-19-01, 15:14
Thanks, Andy...I'm really glad to be here!

All...who the heck is Susan Powers? I've heard of Susan Powter (the fat-free stop the insanity chick - whose diet I tried, by the way, lost 30 pounds, but nearly killed myself and became hypoglycemic and depressed), but I've never heard of Susan Powers.

Sh'ra

A thin me!
Mon, Nov-19-01, 15:53
Hi

I meant the Insanity Lady -- but I guess I just picked up on the typo before me. However, I do know someone by the name of Susan Powers, so that is probably why I also made the mistake.

Love your beautiful name.


Pam

Sh'ra
Mon, Nov-19-01, 19:07
pam,
You met her, huh? Must've been quite eye-opening *g*.

And, thanks for the compliment!

Sh'ra

lilwannabe
Mon, Nov-19-01, 20:05
I have decided to go back to CAD...nice to see someone else on here also doing it...Atkins just did not work for me...I was following the plan...and being very careful...I started to gain...Maybe I am one of the rare...It could only happen to me...so today...back to CAD...feeling good about it...and no cravings for carbs...never did have them when I was on CAD before...just thought that I saw so much success with Atkins I would try it...anyhow...glad to be back..and hope to be losing real soon.:D

Victoria
Mon, Nov-19-01, 21:48
Hi again lilwannabe,
I have read several of your posts and know you have been frustrated. I'm glad you are searching for the right plan for you. Everyone is different, and it's important to be open to figuring out what works for your body and lifestyle. I read "How I Gave Up My Low Fat Diet and Lost 40 Pounds" by Dana Carpender. I liked her approach, because she explained different ways to do low carb. So keep on working on it. You'll figure out what works for you. Don't give up. The answers are within reach. I also read The Carbohydrate Addict book, found some helpful info in it. Let us know how it goes. Hoping for the best for you!!! :rheart: Victoria

Sh'ra
Tue, Nov-20-01, 09:31
Lilwannabe,
Actually, I'm thinking about doing the opposite, so we'll have to compare notes :) I do crave carbs on CAD, and feel that I might need something more restrictive, as the reward meal tends to cause me to want to binge. Let's keep one another posted.

Maybe I just get bored easily, and should rotate the plans every few weeks or months :p

Sh'ra

Andy Davies
Tue, Nov-20-01, 12:02
Victoria,

I would like to commend you on your excellent post to Lilwannabe. This system works because we all share knowledge, experience and needs with each other. You offered help and support, which is exactly what everyone needs, and we all need to be doing this for each other.

Another way in which the system is working well is in exchanges of information and ideas, such as that between Lilwannabe and Sh'ra.

Keep it up folks! This is what this forum is all about!

Andy

lilwannabe
Tue, Nov-20-01, 20:57
So true Andy...And I need to thank everyone for listening to me rant. I am feeling better...much better today...and I owe you all alot for the support you have offered me. :rheart: Thankyou...thankyou...thankyou.

I am again feeling like I am losing...I have not weighed myself...I will on friday...if I do not see any results then...I am just going to give up on the scale. Like I have said before...I like feeling healthy...so if my goal is never reached...it doesn't really matter...I just like feeling in control of myself...and my eating...:bhug: This is a hug for you all!!!!

Andy Davies
Wed, Nov-21-01, 03:54
I have borrowed this from Nat (Natrushka) because I like it so much:

"I've decided that I'm only going to listen to the scales when they tell me what I want to hear"!

Andy

kezza
Fri, Nov-23-01, 06:32
I too suffer from scale fright and I have not owned scales for at least 10 years.
If I wanted to weigh myself I would use other people's scales (when they were not looking) or the school scales or jump on the scales at the doctor's when he left the room to get something!! :D
Why? Maybe I was too scared of the truth. maybe I did not want to be defined by how many pounds/ kilos I weighed.
But when I started this LC WOL life again recently I did buy myself scales. But I try not to worry about the weight too much because I know it will go up and down by many pounds depending on the time of day and the Time of the month!!

I mainly just think about my clothes and how loose they are feeling. But of cousre I'm happy to see the scales say I weigh less. I'm just waiting for larger amounts before I celebrate too much.
see ya ,
kezza

lilwannabe
Fri, Nov-23-01, 11:14
I am back down from 231 to 228 since going back to CAD. I am very happy about it. Looking forward to getting below 228 now. It will happen...sooner or later...:D

russ
Sat, Nov-24-01, 21:56
I guess I'm a little behind on the topic(how overweight people are treated), but here's my input.

A couple of years ago, I caught a talk show that featured two sisters that day. One had struggled all of her life with a weight problem, the other was always slender, and didn't understand what her sister's problem was. Makeup artists were brought in to give her the appearance of being overweight, and she went out in the city. To make a long story short, she came back in tears. Talking about how she had been stared at, pointed at, rejected in job interviews, etc. I guess the stuff they put on her also weighed quite a bit, and her back hurt, her feet hurt, and so on. I'd be willing to bet she never had any more snide remarks for her sister.

Victoria
Sun, Nov-25-01, 10:28
Yippee!!!!
I just wanted to cheer for lilwannabe!!!! :cheer: I am so happy for you that you have a downward trend going. I bet you are thrilled. I had gained a few at Thanksgiving but have gone back down. So I'm happy too. It's always nice to see a little victory. Three pounds turn into five and then seven and then ten and so on. A little at a time, but it adds up.
I know when I first started out I would be frustrated that it wasn't coming off fast enough. But I kept plugging away and now I'm down almost 50 pounds. I think a weekly weigh is a good idea. Especially if you are feeling the changes in your clothing. You can tell by how your clothing feels that you are losing. Inches are better than listening to that mean ole scale!!
And Russ, I have seen skinny people wearing those "fat suits" to understand how fat people feel or are treated. Most of the time it offends me when I see them do this. They may be able to get the gist of how that much extra body feels, but at the end of the day they know it's coming off. I'd like them wear it for a month. Then maybe they would realize how it really feels. :rolleyes: One thing with having struggled with this for so long, I hope I will always be kind and considerate to others who have this problem. Hopefully I can be helpful to those around me that need help. Victoria

Andy Davies
Sun, Nov-25-01, 17:50
Hi Russ,

I hadn't heard about that experiment, and found it very interesting.

It is a proven fact that some people can eat anything they like without putting on any weight, while the rest of us are prone to gaining weight easily, and usually have a history of fluctuating weight. This contrasts with the other type of person, who often weighs the same (give or take a few pounds) for decades or scores of years. Unfortunately, these static-weight, slender types always assume that the rest of us are overweight because we deserve to be. The actual reason, of course, is metabolic - some people have a metabolism which can process every kind of food, and the rest of us lack those enzymes that break down carbohydrates.

I am going to start a new thread in another part of this site about how slender people perceive and react to us, and invite contributions from anyone with experiences to share. Look out for a thread with the name "In their view" or somesuch.

Great work, Lilwannabe and Victoria, incidentally.

Andy

bsayne
Fri, Dec-07-01, 21:37
Well this threads been a little too quiet! Since I took the time to read it I am posting and hoping for some action! I too have 100+ to lose and the more I read the more I learn. That which I learn, I will file for my journey. This is a great site with so many valuable opinions. The only downside to reading a thread that started so long ago is realizing how many members haven't been back in a while! Awwwww!

Now I see what they mean by stick around....But this place feels like a life preserver and I'm holdin' on for love of life!

Thanks to all who contribute by sharing their pain, gain, loss and knowledge and best of all the sense of humour that it takes to make it through the only way I know how...one meal at a time.

Keep it up!

Bsayne

kezza
Sat, Dec-08-01, 05:16
Hi Bsayne,
I really like your final comment about getting through this WOL the only way you know how...one meal at a time!
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Thanks for that thought. :)
I needed something to focus me right now (see my journal if you want to know why) and that comment is simple but true.
See ya,
kezza

firespirit
Sun, Dec-09-01, 04:38
Hi Bsayne,

this place feels like a life preserver Amen, Amen, AMEN :exclm: :exclm: :exclm: :exclm:

This thread is one of those places I go to reread some good stuff when it seems like I can barely keep trying (like now) :exclm:

Thanks for the reminder to make it through the only way I know how...one meal at a time.

Thanks---I really needed that :wave:

Sh'ra
Mon, Dec-10-01, 11:31
I was thinking that it had gotten pretty quiet on this thread, too. This is the thread that I actually started with three weeks ago, and that inspired me to try locarb again. I'm glad I did.

I only lost 6 pounds during this induction (ended today), and I was tempted to be disappointed about it, but then I realized that was 3 pounds a week, and that is nothing to sniff at, considering no other diet helped me out that way.

Take heart, all, and remember how far you've come.

Jimsgems
Mon, Dec-10-01, 17:51
I had an absolutely awful weekend, being a diabetic this diet (WOL) could kill you if your not careful. I was having Blood Gluclose levels as low as 40 that is very hypoglysemic and the highest were 120. Well my first stop of the day was at my endo's office to see him. I'm still a diabetic, but all med's except for one is being stopped and the remaning one is cut in half. The remander of today has been much better. I got Dr. B's book and trying to read it now. I'm gonna get on top of this plan and win.

I also read about the insurance charts, they are a joke, totally unrealistic except in a perfect world. I cannot imagine a woman at 5'2 or 5'3" at 107! Where do you hold them without grabbing bone and what about their "elegances"? I just cannot imagine or don't want too... I have to admit I've always been attracted to curvie women, zoftig in German... Soft and beautiful edges, full figured. But I digress.... Jim :D

Dizz
Mon, Dec-10-01, 18:01
the insurance charts, they are a joke, totally unrealistic ]

Welcome to our world. Trust me, 5 ft is not going to be 107 either haha. I'll be happy at a curvy 150 and so will my husband!

Jimsgems
Mon, Dec-10-01, 19:46
Yes my Dear One;

I do adore the curves and bumps. Thats a good thing, totally skinny sucks. Smiles, be well. Jim

rosie2
Sun, Dec-30-01, 19:58
I'm 50 and hypothyroid, High Blood pressure, addicted to sugar. Then I want salty stuff and back and forth. It's rediculous the things I crave and give into eating EVEN when I know I shouldn't eat or drink it. I need some serious help from you guys. I am trying to make a come back after Christmas (still candy and fruitcake and stuff in the cupboard to bake). I even thought I could eat a piece of candy and throw a piece away. If I did that every time I ate some pretty soon it would be gone. I thought about freezing what is still in my kitchen for bring out during summer school break for the kids (and me to munch on). What would you all do in this situtation???
Please respond I need sugestions from your heart! :idea: :exclm:

Also, what tasty things do you all eat for breakfast or snacking that can be had during indution?
Thanks rosie2 :wave: :wave: :wave:

bellablue
Sun, Dec-30-01, 20:23
Hi Rosie2, :sunny: just wanted to welcome you! I also have 100 lbs to lose and I'm your same age or there abouts. I'm eating very low carb for my plan and so our objectives may be the same but our means to the end a little different. I eat cauliflower for breakfast! Never thought I would say that but my mate got me a food processer for Christmas and I'm shredding and making faux fried rice (actually cauliflower) w/ turkey burger and garlic. I've been doing this "total behavior change" since the end of July. I got kinda tired of eggs and sausage. I really believe this is the right way to live and eat. Just removing most carbs and sugar from the equasion has made me feel so much better--because I have fibromyalgia--I never thought a diet change would ease my aches and pains--but it has. I also found that after kicking sugar--and kicking is the only way to describe it, I can have an occasional diet soda and I no longer notice the artifical sweetner that used to just gross me out. Welcome and this is an awsome board!!~~bellablue

Cheryl R
Sun, Dec-30-01, 22:44
:wave: Can I keep coming to this 100 pounds to lose when I get to the point where I only have to lose 90 pounds or whatever...I read most of this thread tonigh...my eyes are killing me...but isn't it wonderful to know how many of us are in the same boat. I actually have a ways to go to get to the point where I can say I don't need to lose 100 pounds any more....I was just curious how this group worked.
And....I would love to read more about people who have already lost over 100 pounds....but my eyes have had it tonight.
You all are so great....I can't wait to come back tomorrow and read more threads.
I'm also passing this site on to a friend who is starting low carb too... Good luck to everyone...2002 will be our year.

Victoria
Mon, Dec-31-01, 13:44
No one here will ever tell you not to come on in, just because you've lost too much. I think in that case, you would be an encouragement. I think the main idea is to have somewhere for folks to come when they want to talk to people with the same struggles. Having over 100 pounds to lose is way different than someone with 30 pounds to lose. We are here to cheer each other on and hold each other up---even when it's discouraging.

So Happy New Year! It should promise to be a good one, with victories in the future! :wave: Victoria

Andy Davies
Mon, Dec-31-01, 14:30
Hi Cheryl, Victoria is abolutely right (Thanks Victoria). I am currently showing a loss of more than 70 pounds, although that will go down when I re-weigh myself in the New Year and declare gains over the Christmas period (not long to go now).

Yes, it's a place to go for reassurance for all those of us who have more than 100 pounds to lose in total. To me, it's one of the best parts of a really great site, and some even describe it as being a "lifeline".

No-one in this forum is restricted from going to any part of it and posting, but those of us with a three figure total to lose tend to think of this as hallowed ground for us. I know I have said this before (for those who have seen it already) but there are some very heartwarming and inspirational stories in earlier posts of this thread which I intend to copy into a new thread which I am going to start up soon to give encouragement and hope to all members.

A very Happy New Year to all subscribers of this thread.

Andy

Cheryl R
Mon, Dec-31-01, 16:48
I read some of the posts on this thread last night....I think now, I will go back to the beginning and read more.

I do still have 100 to lose, another reason I asked that question...is because I thought it would be nice to hear from the ones that are close to losing 100...and we could cheer them on...or the ones who have lost over 100...and they could cheer us on....

I have one place I always plateau on...and that's when I get to the 230's...I have not managed to get out of the 230's in about 10 years.

Andy Davies
Mon, Dec-31-01, 19:29
Hi Cheryl,

I know what you mean. I have a point at which I seem unable to lose more weight. It comes when I have lost 77 pounds. A couple of months ago I was on 76 pounds again. By tomorrow, I'll be lucky if it's 63.

All of us who lose weight have struggles, and I would not for one minute belittle the efforts of those with comparatively little to lose, compared with us. I know from offline discussions with people who have taken a year of hard work to lose 40 pounds (their entire requirement) that the total journey is just as hard for them as it is for us - but in different ways. I tend to identify with triple-digit people because their struggles are more exactly my struggles, and the kind of abuse they are likely to have experienced in the past is more like the kind I have suffered.

What I am "investigating" right now (actually, some people view this as an excuse to break the diet and indulge without reastraint for a few weeks, and with some justification) is the effects of long-term low-carbing on cravings and our ability to control them. This is something other long-term triple-digit people have experienced, and I am trying to sound out strategies for coping. We also seem more easily guilt-racked over our lapses, perhaps because we have been so much on the receiving end of criticism and abuse by judgmental "outsiders" who have never needed to lose a pound in their lives, and tend to classify us as pigs and weak-willed gluttons.

The good thing is that this is the one place you can guarantee to come without being censured, criticised or made to feel unworthy. On the contrary, there are some truly lovely people here, all willing to help, and share their experiences for our mutual benefit.

Andy

K-Louise
Mon, Dec-31-01, 21:47
Hi all :wave:

I am viewing a few of the forums on this website, and participating too. It really does help. I am keen to encourage the Australian/New Zealand locals to use that forum, as well as the countdown to 250.

At the beginning I had 121 pound to lose, although I do think I lost 6 pounds (probably water weight) in a low fat/starvation diet in the 2 weeks prior to starting Atkins (this is certainly more enjoyable for me, and suits my almost diabetic symptoms quite well).

I have set my first goal at 250. Small steps to make the goals seem achievable. After 250 I will reset the goal to 230, and so on. I must admit though that when I reach 269 I will be over the moon, then my remainder to lose will be under 100 to get to my ultimate goal of 170. I am large boned and tall, I have no desire to be a bag of bones, and will be a very happy 170 pounder.

Each time I reach a major recorded goal I am going to treat myself - a weekend away at a luxury resort (there is one I frequent about 1.5 hours flight north of Sydney with a GREAT seafood buffet and amazing swimming pool). Every 20 pounds will warrant one lovely new outfit. Every 10 pounds will warrant a trip to the Beauty Salon, facial, pedicure.

I can't ever remember feeling so confident that I will win here.

Thank you all for your support.

Kim

BaileyWS
Tue, Jan-01-02, 00:01
I have found so much help from this forum and, specifically, this thread, that I never imagined I could be thrown out now that I've lost 45 pounds. Hmmm.

It's so true about those of us who have triple digit losses ahead of us ... we have different experiences from those who have 20 or 30 pounds to lose.

I agree that the guilt of going off this woe is probably greater for us. I know that this week was one of those times for me ... I planned for it .... figured I would be a little more lenient with my food choices.

But I found myself confronted by all the "old" patterns -- I am visiting my family or origen -- I've realized that my whole family is addicted to food, namely carbs. And I slipped back into many of the old ways. The comfort in the food -- especially the sweets and breads -- hmmm.

Well, the thing is that I was recognizing it ... but not fighting it to the degree my husband thought I should have been. Well, that's probably not fair ... I was the one who projected his disapproval onto myself. He admitted he wasn't so much concerned with the amount of sugar and starch I ate these last few days, but he was concerned it would be much harder (maybe impossible) for me to return to this woe when we returned home. He sees it as addiction. I thought, in some ways, it would be easier being addicted to something I could eliminate completely from my life -- like alcohol or drungs -- than to be addicted to carbs ... because I will need to learn how to manage them, not just how to avoid them.

I learned that his approval was very important to me ... we talked at length and it's fine now .... he is learning how to encourage me without scolding ... and I am learning how to reject the "old ways" but still receive the good feelings.

Tonight, I volunteered to do all the cooking for the NEw YEar's party at my parents' home. They were elated, since my mom and dad don't relish cooking (just eating); and I was able to make a lot of things that I am able to eat without guilt -- cheese stuffed meatballs, party franks wrapped in bacon, london broil on a stick, cheese balls, veggie platter, etc.

The payoff for me was that everyone raved about the food .... including my mom and dad ... and my hubby! So I got my good feelings, as well as feeling good about my own eating tonight ... and they got to stuff themselves with food they thought was decadent!

OK .. so I did have a peice of cake ... but I had decided to eat one peice if I felt I really wanted it .... and I really wanted it. :)

bsayne
Tue, Jan-01-02, 00:42
Wow, I'm so glad to see this thread getting fired up again! BaileyWS, all that really matters is that you learned from and expanded your options in your experience...your doing great, just look at how far you've come! Keep the faith and work on the fear that we all have...the fear of succeeding.

Seems like most of us have a magic number or wt area that is fearful...mine is anything below 200 right now and I know I have to deal with it soon. I bought into the "Baloney" about the dangers of LC and since I am also hoping for a pregnancy that I may be harming more than one and cut loose from the program last April...Yikes...I'm still relosing from that failed experiment...But I am LC smarter now and I am still learning everyday what it takes to make me not just tick...but tick well!

I'm stayin with this WOL now and no matter what...I didn't have people around me LCing together...but now I do. I know what it feels like to feel so alone in your struggles and now I just don't want anyone to feel that way...Support should always be available, you need only ask.

100+ is a special place...I feel for anyone who has wt to lose...but feel a close kinship to those with this 100+ struggle...who share the pain of being off the charts in everything we look at. Who have felt the shame of this terrible addiction for too long. Not to mention the humiliation of so many parts of society that just don't FIT US! I wish more of the mainstream medical community would recognize that this could be the answer for so many suffering individuals out there...but I guess the drug companies would have something to say about that!

I'm rambling...it's late...but I still send my heartfelt good wishes to all who need this forum to heal and restrengthen your resolve & your commitment to live, and live well.

Bsayne

Victoria
Tue, Jan-01-02, 17:12
Bailey, I think you did pretty good! You realized that you could make a better buffet if you did the cooking! And everyone enjoyed it. Holidays are hard, there's alot of eating involved. But we are all getting back to normal now. This year should be a good one for all of us. :roll:

Kim, you know how to treat yourself! Lots of pampering! I've lost 55 pounds and still haven't bought new clothes. Now that Christmas is over, I will have to. These are getting embarrassingly DROOPY! It should be fun to go and see how clothes fit now. I know my Mom has lost 36 pounds and she was wearing her big clothes at Christmas time. The very last day before she left, she was wearing a sweatsuit that fit. She looked tiny compared to before. So I'm looking forward to the difference of new clothes.

Bsayne,
Check out Otenn's pregnancy journal...since you want to get pregnant. I'm sure you have to modify it a bit. But I think less sugar and processed foods could only be better for the babe. I would be concerned about getting enough calcium tho. I always drank lots of milk during my pregnancies.

Tootles everyone! :wave: Victoria

Andy Davies
Tue, Jan-01-02, 20:14
Hi Kim,

I don't believe we've "met" before, pleased to do so now. I think you are absolutely right about your planned strategy: lots of small goals, rewards, not aiming to become over-thin. If you follow this regime, you will surely lose weight and be very contented. Incidentally, I expect you have seen it already, but there is also a diabetes forum on this web-site, if you might find that useful. By the way, I hope you are safe from those dreadful fires where you are!

Wendy and Beth are old friends - as usual some great points there. And Victoria, I'm with you about not buying new clothes too soon. My last pair of trousers, before they fell apart from old age, had become so buched up around the waist that my wife told me I looked as if I was wearing a gathered curtain around my waist. But when you have a fluctuating size and shape, you don't want to splash out on something that might not fit you next month, do you?

I love Beth's idea of everyone else matching our size!

And Dizz, those old insurance charts for height and weight were an arbitrary calculation made 150 years ago, based on lung-size, and the volume of air a person inhales and exhales. If you want the reference source for this, it is in the Banting book which is reproduced in full elsewhere on this site. And in my humble opinion, like yours, it's high time it was totally revised.

Andy

Dizz
Tue, Jan-01-02, 21:32
:wave: Andy, just got back to task and saw your post. I totally disagree with anyone who insists (including the doctor) that I conform to any "chart" that says what I should weigh. My idea weight is when I am the happiest with myself. It is when I say it is good and right. So burn the charts!!

I did break down and buy some new clothes. haha Saw my reflection in a store window. haha Boy, those pants were not fitting anymore no way no where. Thought I could hold out but decided to let Santa Claus bring me a couple of pair for Christmas. You know I really did like putting on those pants and shirts and seeing a better looking reflection. So Kim and Victoria, buy at least one new outfit that fits, it really picks you up! :thup:

Happy New Year and New Outfits to ALL!!

numberonewendy
Wed, Jan-02-02, 05:42
So Kim and Victoria, buy at least one new outfit that fits, it really picks you up!

Oh I so agree :thup:

I totally disagree with anyone who insists (including the doctor) that I conform to any "chart" that says what I should weigh. My idea weight is when I am the happiest with myself. It is when I say it is good and right. So burn the charts!!

And on this too!

Andy Davies
Wed, Jan-02-02, 08:15
Me too! Being a born rebel myself, I'm behind you 100% there Dizz and Wendy!

Andy

bsayne
Wed, Jan-02-02, 23:21
I just did my PP calculations for % of fat and LBM...ya know all the really depressing stuff...I am still in shock! And I am 44% into my journey! When I put in my real starting wt on a computer program the other day I wasn't even on the Chart/Page...I, Me Nsayne old me was being represented by a RED ARROW pointing off the page...sorry mam' but our female schedules don't go above 250!! How did I think it might be different if I looked at my actual % of fat somehow...???!!

I tried to explain that I ordered ALL SMALL PARTS...I got the hands and feet...the rest were on BACKORDER! I guess their not buying the big boned theory either!

I am not tripping to far south over the wt schedule...they think I should weigh something like 113...yea I think in the 4th grade I was close to that figure!

Hey thats O.K. I don't really know where I need to be either...I'm just guessing but when it feels right and I like the way I look and feel...I'll be the first to know! Then you'll know cause I'll be shoutin' it from the page tops! But I'm not telling those fools at the insurance charts...they'd probably disagree anyway!

Take care and love yourselves!
Beth

P.S. Victoria; Thanks for the note...there are a couple of LC pregnancy journals now...I do miss OTENN though she has been pretty busy of late and hasn't been on...I do plan to keep LC as a base and modify where needed when/if the time comes...calcium is high in my many dark green veggies too, not to mention cheese and cream! I also found my Atkins 3 had more of many vitamins than did my prenatals...we shall cover all areas!


Beth

Andy Davies
Thu, Jan-03-02, 09:09
You crack me up with your sense of humour, Beth!

Just as well you can laugh about it.

But have I missed something? Are you pregnant, or am I misreading the post?

Must check out your journal.

Andy.

Sh'ra
Thu, Jan-03-02, 11:12
I love this thread. And once I get past the mark where I have less than 100 lbs to lose, I'm still coming :) It is inspiring to me to see those who have started in the same general area as me that now have less than 100 to lose.

Victoria and others - I haven't bought new clothing, either, except a pair of jeans that I deliberately bought a tiny bit loose because they're more comfortable that way when I'm cleaning house. My blouses are getting a little loose (bought them when I was still at the 300 mark), and seem to look somewhat baggy, but I don't want to buy smaller quite yet. I kinda like that loose feeling, when I've spent so many years hating how I felt in clothes that always seemed too tight. I'll spring for the new wardrobe in about 25 more pounds :D

Shalom,
Sh'ra

K-Louise
Thu, Jan-03-02, 13:29
Hi Kim,

I don't believe we've "met" before, pleased to do so now. I think you are absolutely right about your planned strategy: lots of small goals, rewards, not aiming to become over-thin. If you follow this regime, you will surely lose weight and be very contented. Incidentally, I expect you have seen it already, but there is also a diabetes forum on this web-site, if you might find that useful. By the way, I hope you are safe from those dreadful fires where you are!

Thanks Andy, nice to meet you too. You seem like quite an inspiration. I could cetainly lose some inspiration today. My scales are going in the wrong direction, and with the help of some new friends here checking out my journal we are going to eliminate the culprit. Hopefully it will be reversed soon. I lost 7.5 pounds in the first 5 days of WOE, and in the 11 days since have regained 6.5 of them :cry:

The bushfires are still devestating here, and it looks like days before we will even look likely to have rain. It is so hot and dry.

I find great support in coming here every day. Everyone is an inspiration.

Kim

Andy Davies
Thu, Jan-03-02, 19:32
But have I missed something? Are you pregnant, or am I misreading the post?

I did misread the post. Sorry Beth.

Kim, great to have you here. I have replied in your journal.

Sh'ra, I certainly hope you will! (continue coming back here when you have less than 100 pounds still to lose).

Andy

upncomer
Fri, Jan-04-02, 06:36
Hello everybody!
I posted an Introduction, but saw this site and got very excited to be with those "of my kind"!!! :D

I have been on Induction for a couple of days now and am feeling great! My hubby is even helping out - and he is the type who ends up sabotaging my diets without fail (I don't even think he knows what he is doing when he does it!).

I am a borderline diabetic and much looking forward to the day that I can stop taking the glucophage (as well as the many other medications that I take).

I have "scale-aphobia" and am wondering how many others feel the same. I don't plan on weighing myself until I go to the doctor's on Jan 16, so hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised. By then I should just be ending Induction.

BTW, is there an acronym listing somewhere on this website for us newbees? A couple of them I have figured out, but feel kinda dumb when reading posts with acronyms that I have no idea what they stand for!!

I usually am a great lurker, but this site is so friendly and warm that it makes you want to talk. I guess I will be yapping a lot here - hope you all don't mind!

Andy Davies
Fri, Jan-04-02, 07:50
Hi Darla,

You sound like just our kind to me, in all senses of the word. Welcome. Feel free to participate as much as you like - you're among friends here.

There is a list of acronyms here. You access it by clicking on the red toolbar near the top of the page, where it says "Low Carb Tips". A drop-down menu appears, and you click on the bottom option, "Low-carb lingo".

Also, there is a sub-forum dealing with Diabetes which you might like to check out.

Andy

K-Louise
Fri, Jan-04-02, 14:59
Wow, you sound so much like me it was almost like reading my own introduction.

My starting weight 291 (only 1 pound different) and my ultimate goal is also 170. I am also borderline diabetic (father and sister are diabetic).

And, as many of my new friends here will know I have been doing serious mental battle with the scales the past week.

You will find so much support and good advice here, it will really help you.

Don't forget to start a journal. Write down everything you eat (good and bad). I have found it really helpful for others to look at my menu and offer advice on what I'm doing well, or not so right.

I have actually, just yesterday, started induction (Atkins) again, becasue of issues I had with too much salt and artificial sweeteners. This time I'm doing it REALLY clean. If you should read through my journal, please ignore my mood of the past few days, I feel much better now.

I find reading other people's journals is a great way to pick up interesting ways to eat too.

Welcome Darla.

Kim

upncomer
Fri, Jan-04-02, 17:36
Thanks for the warm welcome!
Andy: Thanks for the acronym listing, I will check into it. I will also check into the Diabetic forum. :hyper:

Kim: Yes, it looks like we are quite a bit alike - my dad and sister also are diabetics! They both take injections and I swore to myself that I would never get to that point.

I am struggling with the water, but I am starting out slow. I drank 3 glasses today (which is tremendous for me!) and am TRYING to lay off of the coffee. That is my real weakness. I have been drinking black coffee since I was around 4 years old - can't stand pop (soda for everyone else!) :D

I will try not to lurk as much and talk more - promise! I will also check out the journaling.

My goal is to tuck in my shirt (and feel comfortable about it!)

Cheryl R
Fri, Jan-04-02, 19:29
upncomer...
they are all right...this is a great place...and you are now one of us...I just joined recently...and I'm already family...just call me sis-----sis....
anyway...My husband is diabetic too and he already stopped taking his meds...he was having sugar lows....he hasn't told his doctor yet...but he is seeing her at the end of the month. Be careful...and check you blood often...especially after the 3rd day.
My dad was insulin dependent..and my sister controls with diet...and my brother is insulin dependent..out of control...he drinks and eats whatever...he had juvinile type...but wasn't diagnosed until he was 19.
anyway...welcome to the group...I just love it here....I am addicted to this group...really

numberonewendy
Fri, Jan-04-02, 19:36
Welcome Upncomer

Love your goal....I too look forward to these days :D

My goal is to tuck in my shirt (and feel comfortable about it!)

bsayne
Sun, Jan-06-02, 00:14
Welcome to all newcomers! You are in the right place and can relax knowing you are among friends! We have either been there or are heading in a similar direction...weight down that is...better yet health up!

With this many great minds we can figure anything out! I'm in this for the long haul and look forward to sharing & celebrating all successes along the way. Everyone has the right to succeed in 2002! We all just plain deserve it!

Bsayne

upncomer
Sun, Jan-06-02, 12:59
It has been around 4 days now that I have been on Induction and I can't believe how much less I've been eating, while how full I have been feeling! BA (before Atkins), I just about "grazed" all day - without ever having an empty stomach.

This morning, I heard a strange sound. The dogs looked up every time they heard it and I couldn't place it until I realized that it was my stomach growling!!! I guess it was time for me to eat some food! :daze:

Hubby has been extremely helpful for me - the only thing that I have not gotten him to change yet is eating late. He usually eats at around 10pm nightly and expects me to eat at the same time. While he is out, I have been eating my dinner (6-7pm).

We do a lot of hunting and I wondered if anyone knows of any good recipes for wild game (venison, rabbit, duck, etc.). We have got a freezer full of stuff that I want to use before it goes bad!

mdxgirl37
Sun, Jan-06-02, 13:45
hello everyone, mdxgirl37 here. i posted an introduction on the intro page but found this one and decided to chime in.

I have around 165 pounds to lose to get to my goal. I did Atkins back around July and lost 17 pounds within the first 3 weeks but just stopped. I have reread the book and have decided to do a modified Atkins. I am cutting sugars, bread, and dairy (mainly milk) out. I get my small amount of carbs from vegetables. I started on the 26 and the scale shows about 6 pounds but I can get into jeans that a couple of weeks ago were about to pop. I have been a slave to the scales all my life and will not do it now. I plan to way about every two weeks but will be more concerned with how my clothes feel and fit.

I have done a lot of research and truly believe that I have starved myself to 300 pounds and have really messed with my metabolism by going back and forth/up and down/starving and binging. I would always lose weight on these starvation episodes but also excercised like a maniac. I was miserable and I was freakin' hungry all the time. So here I am and appreciate and desperately seek the support the triple digits have offered to others!

Looking forward to meeting all of you.

Victoria
Sun, Jan-06-02, 13:53
Hello upncomer!
I just had to say I love your saying at the bottom of your post. I'm going to write that one down. Hope all goes well for you. ;)

Hello mdxgirl37,
Good to see you here! You are most welcome. I know how hard it is to realize how much lay ahead...but it's one day at a time. And a few months down the line you'll be rejoicing for the weight you've lost.

And hello bsayne....always good to see you here. You are always a ray of sunshine! :sunny: :rheart: Victoria

Cheryl R
Sun, Jan-06-02, 15:49
welcome everyone...I love this forum...you will too.

upncomer...
I used to be married to a hunter...the only stuff he ever brough home that I ate were the ducks...and some of the fish...I used to cut the venisen up in strips and soak them in worshersire sauce..for a long time...then fry in oil...he loved it...I hated it. Just too gamey for me...I used to cook it for him and his friends. I divorced him many years ago...he was so cruell to me..so I don't remember everything we did with it...except the jerky...I did eat that.
I loved the ducks cooked plain and simple...
Of course I always let the "idiot" (that's what I call him behind his back...but never in front of my daughter)anway I always let him gut the ducks...and then I would smother them in butter and seasonings...I wouldn't even stuff them....then I baked them in the oven....I liked a garlicy seasoning on them and pepper.
Maybe I should be nice to him...and he might give me some. I tried a store bought duck before...but it just wasn't the same.

Now I'm craving duck. yum...yum...

angelwings
Sun, Jan-06-02, 18:16
I just wanted to say that I am 298# and want to lose about 150# :( Oh, well, I'm among a lot of friends, I think! It's surely a long journey but this site makes it seem a little more likely to achieve my goal FINALLY! I am 5'3 and all this weight just gets in my way! I hate it. I'm 34 years old and even though my spirit feels like a kid, my body just won't let me do what I want it to. Sometimes I feel like I am just wearing this enormous fat-suit! Anyway, guys, I just wanted to drop by and tell you that you have another comrad to keep you company. Talk to ya soon.

Kelly :wave:

K-Louise
Sun, Jan-06-02, 18:39
Welcome Kelly

The more the merrier, and yes you are among friends.

Personally, I find it so liberating to be able to tell people how much I weigh (after swearing to take it to my grave).

Have you started a journal yet? You will find it very helpful, and we will all help you along your journey.

Cheers and welcome
Kim

lilwannabe
Sun, Jan-06-02, 19:30
I made a deal with myself that I would eat what I like over the holiday week...without the guilt...now I am struggling daily to get back on track. I am okay while I am at home, but there are still so many goodies at work...and they keep calling my damn name. I have not had the guts to step on the scale, because I know I am up...I can feel it....but I just can't seem to get back on track...help me please. I have ordered a new plan...maybe that will help...it should be here in a week or so...I don't want to blow this now...those pounds were so hard to get off, I don't want to start all over again. I feel puffy and ugly today...I just want to cry....why is this so hard for me...I know I have to just say NO to the carbs...but they are a constant on my mind....I hate this feeling!!!:tears:

liddle
Sun, Jan-06-02, 19:46
Hey lilwannabe,
Why not use your pain to get back on track? Anthony Robbins says to associate your pain with what you want to change. Associate your pain, you say you feel puffy and ugly, well use all that and associate that hurt with carbs. Get it all out, right it down, next time you hear the cookies or whatever it is calling your name, you wont want to go near it. You'll know that if you do, it will bring you pain. Go to a mirror, tell yourself that you are worth it and have had enough pain. It will work!

Take care,
Heather

Dizz
Sun, Jan-06-02, 20:27
Hey, Lilwannabe I also made a guilt free decision at Christmas to eat with the family. I felt like I had gained 8-10 lbs. I had gained 3. It was very difficult to drop the sugar and carbs again. Actually, much harder than the original time.

The only thing I can tell you is cheating does not help you, it only prolongs the agony of getting back on course. Stay the course however you can it only takes about a week this time then the cravings will subside.

You want this and you know you do. Take a pair of fatty pants that you have "outslimmed" and put them in a drawer at work. When you hear the sweet things calling your name.....pull out those pants and tell yourself "If I eat that I will be wearing these again!" Trust me that's enough to take my appetite away fast.

Good luck whatever works use it, you are your own best friend and worst enemy.

Andy Davies
Sun, Jan-06-02, 20:48
Very warm welcome to mdxgirl and all new members here. This is a great thread. Just say what you are thinking, and someone will pick up on it. Very informal, and we are all just like each other in many ways. Angelwings, glad you found this thread.

Andy.

K-Louise
Sun, Jan-06-02, 23:26
Hi lilwannabe

Any addiction is a hard thing to beat.... but you can do it!!!

I call it addiction because i am approaching this the same way I approached kicking the smoking habit 8 years ago. I still know that if I have just one cigarette, it will be just as hard to stop wanting to smoke all over again as it was that last time. I am associating that feeling with high carb food. That's what keeps me strong.

As with kicking any addiction, the cravings will subside with each passing day.

Take care and be strong, it will be SO worth it!

Kim

Victoria
Mon, Jan-07-02, 11:45
Lilwannabe,
I know it's hard to get back, but you can do it. And you want to. You have less than 100 pounds to go. That's do-able. Am I remembering right? Are you on CAD? If so, you could have some of the carbs that are calling your name at your reward meal. Just save it for later. If I'm remembering wrong, I apologize.

I have a question....does anyone have information on how eating low carb might effect breastfeeding? My sister is just starting to low carb along with my brother in law. She only has maybe 40 pounds to lose. I told her to do it more modified because of the nursing. Anybody have any articles or info? Thanks...Victoria

Sh'ra
Mon, Jan-07-02, 14:33
Welcome, all newcomers! I know that you will be happy with this website. I began coming here somewhere around November, and I already feel like this is a big helpful family (better than a family in some ways, as this group is supportive while sometimes family members aren't ;) )

Lil,
I know it's hard - if you're still on CALP or CAD, put that stuff in your reward meal, dahlin. At any rate, it DOES seem easier to me to begin anew with a new, fresh plan - I tend to do better when I rotate the LC plans I use. If I stall for a time on one, I'll move to another one, and rotate. It seems to work for me - keeps me from getting bored or discouraged, that's for sure. Keep your chin up, hon. It's hard to get back off the craving again, but you CAN. Maybe you should go gradually.

Shalom,
Sh'ra

lilwannabe
Mon, Jan-07-02, 18:31
Thanks you guys...er gals....Last night was not easy...but I managed to get through it without eating all the junk. I know that because I am on CAD I can have the carbs...the problem being...I was eating them at home...and then eating them at work too. So day one is done....I managed...it was a good night. I have ordered another plan from the shopping channel...it should be here in a week or so...I think I need a switch too. It may help me get back on track as well.

I still need to step on the scales...just scared to that's all. I will get up in the morning and weigh and post...I need to do it...it is a way for me to get myself out of denial. I must be willing to look and see the damage I have done so that I can begin to repair and move on.

liddle
Mon, Jan-07-02, 20:04
Lil,

It certainly sounds like you are ready to take control! Good for you! :cheer:

Take care,
Heather

shellyfell
Mon, Jan-07-02, 23:21
:wiggle: Hi Mari, I have 105 to lose, was 276, now 240, going 135. I'm switching from atkins to zone.......I have fibromialgia. This makes some things harder but lessons the severity of the symptoms. I'm hoping to make it easier by using this site. Time for :o .....................night all :wave: .............Shelly :wave: night all

bsayne
Mon, Jan-07-02, 23:45
Lilwanabe...look at all the ropes that came your way...or should I say weigh! Good job on the day...does planning help or are you a seat of the pants kind of person...everybody is different I know! It helps me to plan ahead and pack ahead...and when the office was overrun with goodies I always kept something inedible nearby to stick in my mouth...a pencil/pen usually...no room to stuff that way...and if I walked in to a boobie trapped lunch room I'd grab mine and head for the door...outside or in my car anywhere away from the site...if it really was goading me that is!

Welcome all newcomers...come and sit a spell...we can always use a fresh perspective and a new challenge to face together...

Victoria...on BreastFeeding thats a tricky one...I'll check in at your journal!

Take care all,

Bsayne

lilwannabe
Tue, Jan-08-02, 12:13
Okay...I weighed...I can not believe it....but I double checked...I am down a pound.....I did not post, just in case it changes by tomorrow. I am in shock...I really was expecting to be up by about 5 lbs. Last night was easier again...of course I was not working...and I do have a plan....I just have been having problems sticking to it...you see I work in a group home...so it isn't like an office setting....we don't have a lunch room....we have a kitchen...which I must enter often as I have to do the cooking....anyhow....I think I am back on plan now....and finding out that I didn't gain is just a bonus...although I will not take advantage of that....I think I was just real lucky or something....Maybe I went down before I went up...that too is a possibility...because I feel puffy....I guess I should weigh myself more often to know for sure. :)

Jimsgems
Wed, Jan-09-02, 22:52
Well... It's been four full week's, just entering week #5 and I've lost 35 lbs. So far... folks are starting to notice, that there isn't as much of me "around", and my clothing doesn't hurt so much anymore. No pain, no discomfort and no diabetes med's, I'm off everything and blood glucose has averaged 120 for the last 3 weeks, on the high side of normal range.

I set a target weight loss of... 140 lbs total for a finished weight of 235. I'm 6' 1" and 375 when I started. I'm doing a modified Atkins because of health concerns (diabetes & heart problems). My hdl/ldl cholesterol is 80, BP is 128/85 remember, I’m still 345 lbs. 54 years old. So I’m doing OK.

Bless you all for the support over Christmas Holidays, it really helped me pass the cookies and treats. :D

K-Louise
Thu, Jan-10-02, 00:24
That is amazing. You have been strong and committed and it has paid off for you.

Don't forget to update your profile so your scale icon will show your weight loss.

:cheer:

Kim

Jimsgems
Thu, Jan-10-02, 01:05
Kim;

This is meant as a complement and not a pick up line, but your photo is of a very beautiful woman, just absolutely beautiful, do you know who she is???

Seriously you are a very, sexy, attractive lady. I again don't mean to embarrass you, for a truly beautiful Sheila is a grand thing. Be well, have fun. Oh by the way why are you standing upside down, like you've never heard that for an old Wowser, well not really. *smiling with a knowing glint in his eyes* :D

Thank you.

Suzimc
Thu, Jan-10-02, 11:48
Jim:

You're doing great! Hope to see my numbers look like that soon. I was wondering how you modified your diet? My partner is doing Atkins with me and he has diabetes, high blood pressure and high cholesterol. I have trouble getting him to eat anything with fat -- how much fat can he eat?

Fat is what makes this diet great! Well, eating fat and losing fat...

Suzi

Andy Davies
Thu, Jan-10-02, 13:08
Suzi,

You're absolutely right. Eating fat is one of the key aspects of this way of eating, and I do mean key aspect. If you are restricting carbohydrates, you have to give the body a lot of fat. If you do not, the body will crave - then demand - carbohydrates. Maybe not in days or weeks, although the battle may start then, but gradually over the months till the pull is irresistable. I speak from recent bitter experience. But how to get them? Meat is being bred leaner, butchers trim off fat and throw it away or wrap joints in it, or throw it in with the meat they are mincing (what you call "ground" meat). Cheese and cream can create stalls. So what a lot of peole use is mayonnaise or olive oil.

Eating fat will make you lose fat - provided you do not eat carbs at the same time. In that case, you would gain weight. To lose weight by eating fat, keep the carbs as low as possible.

And Jim, it sounded just like a pick up line. Congratulations on your improved stats. More to come there, I feel.

Lilwannabe, well done. A triumph, no matter the size of the loss. And we share and rejoice with you in it.

shellyfell
Thu, Jan-10-02, 13:31
about adding more fat.....can we eat too many calories and stall out.......i've always been worried about this.......did i mention to you guys that i have fibromialgia and that this diet relieves some of my symptoms if i be strict with myself?

Suzimc
Thu, Jan-10-02, 13:38
Andy:

You're right about the meat -- my favorite steak is a rib eye with big chunks of fat in in - yumm! But they are so hard to find -- they cut it all out :(

Also, I have not used mayonnaise because of the vinegar in it and I really miss it -- also ranch dressing. I'm hoping to get a blender soon so I can make my own mayonnaise - anyone have a recipe?

Shelly - I also have fibromyalgia, haven't noticed any improvement yet but expecting it. I think all the rain has overcome any improvements the diet may offer. I'm also exercising which has put my body in total shock -- but I expect it to help soon...

Suzi

K-Louise
Thu, Jan-10-02, 15:20
Hi everyone

Shellyfell, there is generally a guideline regarding calories which is 10-12 times your body weight... so if you weight 200 pounds, aim for 2000-2400 calories. Your body may think you are trying to starve it if you have less, and may stall if you are having too many calories more than that. I suppose the guidelines for this this may vary depending on what plan you are following. I am not familiar with the zone.... does the plan give you any guideline for this?

Have you guys found www.fitday.com Its a great way of keeping track of your daily intake, and is real simple once you get the hang of it and get most of your daily foods in there.

Suzimc, I have tried this mayo recipe for a blender and it turned out pretty well.

1 whole egg
1/2 teas dry mustard
1 cup olive oil
1 1/2 tbsp. lemon juice
1 tbsp. boiling water

Place the egg, mustard and 1/4 cup of the oil in an electric blender. Turn on the motor and add the remaining 3/4 cup oil in a slow, thin stream. Add the lemon juice and water. Refrigerate.

Cheers
Kim

shellyfell
Thu, Jan-10-02, 15:37
:wave: Thanks for the info on calories. I'm switching back to Atkins to lessen the cravings. About fibro.....fellow sufferers feel the symptoms worsen when they eat potatoes, rice and bread. Take it REAL EASY with the excersise. :wave: Shelly

Andy Davies
Thu, Jan-10-02, 19:38
Kim,

Thanks for the mayonnaise recipe, think I might even try that myself.

Andy

Suzimc
Fri, Jan-11-02, 08:15
Kim-Thanks, I'm going to try the mayonnaise this week-end.

Shelly - I have learned to start the exercising very slow - I start with 5 minutes aerobics in the morning and 5 minutes walking in the evening and increase by two minutes a week. I have found that this way I don't see an increase in my fibromyalgia symptoms -- in fact, I plan on seeing an improvement in a couple of months.


Suzi

Jimsgems
Fri, Jan-11-02, 10:11
Suzimc;
I'm not ignoring your question, but before I could get back on the board, you've received wonderful and as I know accurate info in reply. About fat… I'm not too worried at this time about the amount, I seem to eat a maximum amount of fat. my egg's w/melted cheese are fried in butter, I eat six sausage links and a small dish of cottage cheese and that's just breakfast. It seams like what was said about a reasonable amount of fat is required to get the system moving. My blood pressure is 120/85 and my blood cholesterol composite HDL/LDL is 80 and my blood sugar’s average in the 125’ish range, all my numbers are good and I monitor them closely with my endocrinologist.

cyndiboo
Fri, Jan-11-02, 12:05
Hello all my fellow Triple Digiters!!! I too need to lose over 100 pounds, 130 to be precise.

I started on January 1, 2002 and weighed myself for the first time. As of January 11, I have lost 14 pounds :eek: !!! I am so thrilled. I have never lost this much weight, this quickly.

I am always trying new recipes and looking for better ways to prepare the foods we are now eating. I am glad to be a part of this group, although I don't mind saying that I won't be the least bit unhappy when I no longer qualify. LOL

Best wishes to all. Don't get discouraged, it really is getting easier with each passing day. It no longer bothers me to fix my children foods that I don't eat. I just keep imaging myself thin, and that is all it takes.

Have a great low carb weekend. :wave: Cyndiboo

Victoria
Fri, Jan-11-02, 12:24
Dear K-Louise,
The mayo recipe sounds really easy...I'm just dying to try it. I too love the fact that we can have real mayonaise, real dressing or things cooked in oil or butter. All the things one tries to avoid on a low fat diet.

Shellyfell,
I live in the Central Valley in California. Maybe we are neighbors. Wouldn't that be fun!

Cyndiboo,
You are doing great! Fourteen pounds just to start! That is so encouraging. We all share your joy! Well, see ya all around. :wave: Victoria

Jimsgems
Fri, Jan-11-02, 12:31
Cyndiboo;

I am very empressed, you are doing great. Keep up the attitude, the diet aspect is easy and the weight will keep falling off and... The best part is " My clothing doesn't hurt me anymore!"

Jim

tamarian
Fri, Jan-11-02, 12:38
Originally posted by Jimsgems
The best part is " My clothing doesn't hurt me anymore!"

There's even a better part :) Soon you'll have the "My cloths don't fit anymore!" feeling, which is great.

I always get clothes that are one-size smaller as a motivation to the day I get into them. I also donate the cloths I have once they out fit me. I do this immidiately, as a "point of no-return."

Wa'il

Jimsgems
Fri, Jan-11-02, 13:17
A man can get by with three suits, a blazer or two, and two contrasting pants and two pairs of shoes, a few ties and a few shirts. Thank the lord I have braces (suspenders) for my pants.

I much prefer however the California casual look of Hawiian Aloha shirt's (see my avitar) and casual slacks or Dockers.

I pitty the pocket books of women, the clothing issue for women is horriable, shoes, dresses, slacks, sweaters an the list goes on... How luck you are. :D

tamarian
Fri, Jan-11-02, 13:35
Originally posted by Jimsgems
How luck you are. :D

Unfortunately, it's not as good as it sounded, and I don't buy lotto tickets either :)

I don't keep a full wardrobe at each size. I basically get one pair of jeans, a size smaller, whenever I fit the previous "target" jeans.

Wa'il

bsayne
Fri, Jan-11-02, 14:05
Welcome back Jim, I wondered what happened to you! Glad to hear you are doing so well. I'm afraid I have to second Andy's comment though...maybe you should start a LC singles thread...!!

Great idea Wa'il...great minds must thing alike as I have a new pair of black jeans just sitting on my shelf as I do anything but sit to get into them! It's an incredible feeling when the next size pulls over the hips and wraps the waist!


K-louise- Thanks for the recipe! Sound too good to be true...but seems like in LC land this is often the case...KISS! Keep it simple!

Hi Cindyboo, Suzi and Shelly Welcome and best of luck on your LC plans!

Have a super week-end all!

Bsayne

Dizz
Fri, Jan-11-02, 14:34
I'm just glad I can shop for clothes at Walmart. Inexpensive pullovers and slacks. They are much less expensive than having to shop at the Plus Size stores. But like everyone else I am NOT buying each size as I go down BUT I am getting rid of the larger size as quickly as possible! I am saving 1 large blouse and 1 pair of pants just to make sure I never fit them again haha.

K-Louise
Fri, Jan-11-02, 16:19
After a few weeks of struggling to find what works for me, seems I have found it and the scales are going the right way.

Bysane and Andy, I didn't want to embarrass Jim by saying I had heard many less obvious lines during my 40 odd years, so I'm glad you did it for me. Hehehe (sorry Jim). I've seen a few of your posts Jim where you are commenting on the glorious aspects of women, so my initial reaction was going to be ... "I bet you say that to all the girls". :lol: OK, enough paying out on Jim now :D

Bysane, you are right... this LC way is so much simplier and SO MUCH more delicious... example.....

A cup of boiled cabbage ... (gagging as I speak) versus

A cup of lightly boiled cabbage fried in panjuices (after your steak comes out) and tablespoon butter, with a sprinke of fresh ground pepper.

I was inspired to try Cabbage by Chrissy (very grateful).. YUMMMMM

I don't have to worry about the wardrobe... I have whole outfits of classic styles in the next 3 sizes down all hiding under my bed, I knew I'd get back into them some day. A few alterations to update, a few accessories... no problems.

Keep well all.

Kim

Jimsgems
Fri, Jan-11-02, 17:14
Thank you for going easy on me Kim. I do complement beautiful women every chance I get, including my 5’ 11" tall wife. I do adore women, so shoot me. I'm also not a bit bashful of letting pretty women know that they have been noticed. I’m not very likely to get back to Australia any time soon, so you can breathe a little easier now. I must confess my wife is number 5 (and last), not that I’m proud of it, but I refused to give up and I have lived large, I'm happy with that aspect of my life.

Before my wife’s blindness she was a general contractor and Vice President of Construction of a major women’s shoe company that was here in America from NY to So Cal. She is top notch in every way and to me her accomplishments is as attractive as she is. One of my favorite aphorisms is: "Life is just too short to dance with ugly women or to bad music." I better go now before the rocks start hitting me. See you all later, be well and have fun. :D

BaileyWS
Fri, Jan-11-02, 19:28
Hi Jim, I like your attitude! Brings a smile to my face.

RE: CLOTHES
I don't keep anything that's big on me (except one sweat suit, because it's just that comfy). I give it all away! Right now I have 6-7 bags of clothes waiting to be picked up.

But I don't go out and buy a whole new wardrobe either. Can't afford that. I have one brand of jeans -- stretch denim, bought at Target -- that I find to be the most comfortable. I've been using them as my guide -- they are cheap, comfortable, and ... well, I'm just a "jean" kind of person.

I do need to buy a new suit, though, for Sundays. I found two cheap ones (<$50) in a sale catalog that came this week. I'm just not sure if I should buy the size I'm heading for, or the one I'm heading out of. Since the suits are so cheap, I'm guessing the sizes will run small, so I may opt for the larger size (besides I need something NOW, and this way I can buy something new in a few months.)

RE: MAYO
Is homemade mayo worth the extra effort? It looks easy enough, but does it taste better than the jar stuff I've been eating all my life?

Suzimc
Fri, Jan-11-02, 19:50
Hi all:

Jim - thanks for the info on fat -- you have re-inforced what several people have told me and I have shared it with my partner (totally different than what he got from the doctor --who I happen to work with) but because he is losing and feels so much better he has decided to stick with Atkins.

On clothes - Today I wore a outfit that I had on at the beginning of the year - it was so tight I had to go home to change. Today it fit great. Yes!!

Wendy - the reason that I asked for a recipe for mayonnaise is because all the store bought brands contain vinegar. I am on a anti-yeast diet so I cannot have vinegar. One of our knowledgeable members suggested I use lemon juice instead - so I'm going to try this recipe.

Mock mashed potatoes (made with cauliflower). I made these last night and they were fantastic. And I don't like cauliflower, so if any of you haven't made them yet because you don't like cauliflower, go for it! The only problem I had is that I didn't want to stop with one serving. But I did! I can hardly wait to have more tonight.

Suzi

bsayne
Mon, Jan-14-02, 14:36
Well Jim, I'm glad you took it in the spirit it was dished! A man who appreciates women has nothing to be ashamed of...just don't let it get too deep in here, ya' here now!

Kim...you were very well restrained too...

Bailey I can relate to the bags awaitin pick up...Great idea cause I do not intend on fallin' back.

Suz; Really gotta try that recipe! Sounds soo good.

Dizz, I can sometimes find some great buys at that store too! I am still amazed that I can finally tuck in and not cut my self in half with a belt on my jeans...what a glorious feeling. I am on the last notch and ready to hit the flea market for the next size down...there's belt bargains there for sure!

And with as many sizes as I've had to slide into there had better be bargains!


Best of LC to all,

Bsayne

cassborn
Mon, Jan-14-02, 20:54
Hi everyone,
I will be hanging out with you for a while, I have 175lbs to lose. I have been on the CALP for 6 weeks and I have lost 15 lbs so far. I love this WOL the variety is great and not having cravings is an answered prayer. I have been experimenting with so many new recipes to keep the plan interesting. I am excited about getting to know this group. Thank you for your support.
Cass
:wave:

Dizz
Mon, Jan-14-02, 21:07
Haha Cass, you are a brave soul. I won't even consider tucking in a blouse yet!! I don't wear an overshirt on a fitting blouse now, so that is progress.

Dizz
Mon, Jan-14-02, 21:11
Cass, I know that sounds like alot of weight to you right now and it really is but......trust me if you work this way of eating (WOE) correctly you will LOSE big time and some of it quickly. I know because we started about the same place and I've been eating this way for 6 months and have lost 66lbs. If I can YOU CAN. :thup:

Marion13
Tue, Jan-15-02, 05:16
Hi all

I have been reading back over heaps of the messages and having a great time doing so. Some of it made me LOL because it was so like me. I have a 'fat' wardrobe and a 'thin' wardrobe, but I must confess that the thin wardrobe has not seen daylight for a number of years. But, now that I have found Atkins all that is going to change. I have lost 25 pounds in only a few weeks and can't believe it is working. I feel great.

It started out with me in tears in my doctors surgery after trying for months to lose weight on a low-fat high carb diet I was getting absolutely no-where and practically starving myself. My doctor actually suggested the Atkins program and warned me that it was against everything that most nutritionists would tell me but that she guaranteed that it would work.

I figured that if my doctor was recommending it, then it must be ok.

Look forward to many conversations to come.

Maree

Andy Davies
Tue, Jan-15-02, 06:17
Hi Maree,

Welcome to this forum, and this triple digits section.

What a fantastic woman this Doctor is! The world could certainly do with a lot more like her.

But it makes me seethe to think that you had to go through all that starvation and misery because of common perceptions that only low calorie high carb diets (and willpower!) will do. It is high time that society learnt the truth and dispelled the myths that lead to so much misery!

Anyway, glad you found Atkins, and us. You can relax now, you're among friends.

And what a start you have already made! You have seen the difference already. You know it's going to work this time. We look forward to seeing more posts from you.

Hi and welcome to Cassborn, too. We all have a long way to go here, so I hope you feel more comfortable.

Andy

Victoria
Tue, Jan-15-02, 07:48
Hi all,
I had to go back a couple of pages to just catch up from the last time I was here. Welcome to Cass and Maree. It is good to see you here. And Jim, you are quite a character. Somehow I feel better knowing you are married.

I ditto what Dizz said to Cass. In just a few months you will see so much progress. We all have lots to lose. But with low carbing, it is possible and enjoyable. I am shocked by my success. I have lived for so long being FAT, most of my 30's I kept on gaining. Now I am in my "early" 40's and turning it around. I am so thankful to finally have found the solution. By the time I am 45 I should be a "normal" size and fit! What a wonderful thing to look forward to!!!

Well, all....I appreciate all of you and your input. You always bring a smile to my face. :roll: Victoria

BlueCarGal
Tue, Jan-15-02, 16:17
Another member of the triple digits club signing in....!

I only just started induction on 1/13..... first two days were fine, but today the food cravings hit. Nothing specific, I just want to stuff my face.

Fortunately I found these forums, so I know that other people feel the same way and-- most importantly-- that if I stick with it, it will work.

I gained most of my excess weight in a *very* short period of time (medical condition which has since resolved). Until recently, I had the image of myself as a chubby but not FAT person (which would fit in with being 5'9" and weighing 160-170). Now there's no denying it, and I'd better do something about it.

I'd like to get down to about 140-150. The lowest I've ever weighed at this height was 115. I felt that I *looked* the best when I weighed about 135-145. But if I can get back to 160 I will be thrilled.

Cheryl R
Tue, Jan-15-02, 18:28
marian 13...you are lucky you have a nutritionist to support you..that should help a lot. I have to see my nutritionist monthly for awhile...but she doesn't like what I'm doing...but she would like to keep an eye on me....also...I went to a class before I got assigned to my own nutritionist...and that instructor kept saying...a calorie is a calorie is a calorie...I wanted to puke.
She said 40% of what I eat should come from the bread and cereal group....does she want to see me at 400 pounds I asked...I told her I was already pushing 300...and if I ate that way...I would weigh 400 in another year or two...needless to say...she washed her hands of me.
Good luck to you....

K-Louise
Tue, Jan-15-02, 18:54
Well the proof will be in the proverbial "low carb" pudding, won't it. :lol:

crzyblond
Tue, Jan-15-02, 22:45
Just wanted to say hello! I am a new member wanting to join the triple digits group. I started this woe last week. It went well and I was feeling good, then the weekend hit. With all the running around with the kids, I didn't do so well. Now I am trying to get on the band wagon again. Hopefully I will be able to stick to it this week. So far I'm down 7 pounds, so that is motivating me to keep going. I have a really hard time seeing myself at any other weight, I've been so heavy so long. I really want to get down to 130, but would be happy at 140 also. But hey, I'm happy every time I'm down a little so...

Thanks for listening! I am glad I found this site!

Chris

Marion13
Wed, Jan-16-02, 04:51
Welcome. I am very new to the site as well and overwhelmed by the support and encouragement given to me already.

Don't despair if you have a bad day, it happens to all of us. Just get back on track asap and get rid of the guilt. That was my biggest problem, always seeing myself as a failure, well not this time, if I could bottle the motivation that I am currently feeling I could sell it for millions. Funny you should say that you can't see youself at any other weight. I am the same, even when I was close to my goal weight many years ago, I still saw myself as a "fat" person. The way I am getting around that is to go by how my clothes are fitting and measuring myself every couple of weeks rather than just relying on what the scales are telling me.

I have been a "comfort eater" for ever. Any excuse to eat I'd find it. Whilst on low-fat diets I will admit that I have snuck food and hidden myself away to eat it, actually feeling good that I didn't get caught. It was like someone else took over my will for those few minutes, but of course the minute I'd eaten it, I would get angry with myself, feel guilty and figure that seeing as I'd blown it, why bother... and that gave me the excuse to eat more.

No more, if I do eat something I shouldn't now, it will be because I have made a conscious decision to do so. But I have to say that so far I have not strayed from the program. I feel very empowered and in control and finally realised that noone but me can do this and that I must do it for myself. And with a web-site like this, we won't fail.

Good luck

Maree

upncomer
Wed, Jan-16-02, 06:47
Hello all!
I have just finished my Induction and have lost a total of 11 lbs!!!

:cheer:

I go to my doctor today and am excited about telling her my progress. She is also somewhat "calorically challenged" so she might want to listen more about what I am doing!

I also got on the Fitday website and found out how easy it was to keep track of my carbs. :thup:

And, I have FINALLY got up to drinking 100 oz. of water per day!!! :D That was, I think, my biggest challenge on this plan.

All in all, I am very happy with my first two-week results!

liddle
Wed, Jan-16-02, 07:31
That's GREAT upncomer!!!! Nothing like an 11pound loss to keep you motivated!!! Keep up the good work!!!!!

:cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

Heather

cassborn
Wed, Jan-16-02, 07:35
Hi everyone,
I have been doing good on the CALP. I started doing yoga again and it really help get the blood flowing as well as helps me relax. I can't believe how much better I can do the poses after losing only 15lbs. I love this WOE my husband and I are doing it together so that really helps. I have become quite the chef on this plan both for reward meals as well as craving reducing meals. I think variety in eating and staying focused on my goal is helping. I have a docters appiontment coming up and I dread what she will say about my WOE.

I have a question about fiber, what are some suggestions about getting extra fiber in this WOE?
Thanks
Cass

Victoria
Wed, Jan-16-02, 08:00
Hello all!
Cass, I think if you eat lots of salads and vegies, you won't have a problem with fiber. I eat two large salads a day, usually. The raw vegies are best I think nutritionally. But I also saute collard greens, squash and other types of vegies. Green beans are high in fiber and low in carbs. And eating nuts helps with the fiber need. I tend to eat tons of vegies along with my meat or eggs. There's a recipe for hot muesli by Doreen in the breakfast section, I think. And I use low carb bread with tons of fiber. I have never had a problem with being "regular" on this WOE because I concentrate on eating my vegies. That's what I do. Check out the journals...Bsayne has a great one ;) , and K-Louise also. Everyone does it a bit different, but you can get menu ideas from their journals. Hope that helps :p Victoria

mdxgirl37
Wed, Jan-16-02, 09:58
haven't written for a few days. crazy weekend. things are going well.

cassborn: have a question for you. i noticed you said something about yoga. there is a yoga school here in town and they offer a week of free classes. i would like to try it but figure at my weight (300) it would be a joke. i was very flexible when i was young but don't know if i have it in me now. what do you think? would love to hear input from anyone who has done the yoga thang! thanks

lilwannabe
Wed, Jan-16-02, 14:21
I think that you should phone the school and explain your situation to them....they will be able to let you know whether they can accommodate you or not....That is what I did....I heard about a yoga class...I phoned, explained that I was quite overweight...they then told me that I probably would not fit into their class, but they knew of another that might be able to fit me in...

Suzimc
Wed, Jan-16-02, 19:18
Hi Everyone:

I have to comment on the weight image because it is so true! When I was 145 I thought I was so fat -- and now, I would love to be 145 again. Did I see myself fat and make it happen? Now I'm working on the opposite, trying to see myself thin and make it happen.

Also, about the cooking. I never cooked before I started this WOE. At least I never cooked after the kids left home. Now, I'm trying out new recipes every day and we are loving them. And most of them I have found on this site. Thank you all!

Suzi

mdxgirl37
Thu, Jan-17-02, 05:36
lil' thanks for the input. actually i did call the school a while back and they said i would be fine. however, i am a bit non trusting cause i don't know if they were doing because they wanted to help me or to get their new business up and running. i try to believe the best but have had a couple of bad experiences in the past....kickboxing, etc. i used to love being active and was very athletic until my mid 20s. then the couch became my best friend. i have always been bigger but now realize i was average size and literally starved/binged myself to 300 pounds.

better get to work just wanted to add my input for the morning. have a good day/evening everyone.

cyndiboo
Fri, Jan-18-02, 06:22
Hello everyone!! :hyper:

I am having a great morning. I woke up feeling thin and had to get on the scale. YES!! YES!! YES!! TWO more pounds lost.


My loving:rheart: husband paid me a nice compliment on how good my skin is looking lately. All this water is helping in more way then one. He even mentioned that my backside looks and feels smaller. You know the upper part where it looks like you have wings at the top of your butt because it spreads out farther. LOL


:sunny: I am glowing with the wonderful feeling of pride in sticking with this. The fact that I have lost 16 pounds in 17 days!!!! Just the fact that I have doing this for 16 days is great for me, nowmally after just a few days on any new eating plan I would give up. This time has been so much simpler, and much more rewarding. I won't say easy because anything worth while takes effort and time, I am into this for life.

The other day I was sitting in class thinking, and decided at the very least I should commit myself to this plan for nine months. My thinking was this; I have been through three pregnancies, each of which lasted nine months. Those nine months flew by with such a fabulous reward for me at the end. How would nine months on this WOL reward me? So, I am trying to make a chart that covers the next nine months and put it up in my room so I have to look at it everyday. I am hoping that seeing my numbers go down will help me keep my positive attitude and stick with this. Don't get me wrong I don't plan to stop in nine months, I have just given myself the goal of doing this for at least nine months.


Two of my three children have the flu. The last three days and nights have been miserable, no one is sleeping well, and the fever just keeps coming back. Today is day four and I am hoping this is the last day. Now I am waiting to see if my oldest child, my husband or myself will succumb. YUCK!!


I tried on a pair of pants the other day,(haven't worn them in over six months) and they fit!!
:cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:



I hope all of you get on the scale and have lost some pounds, or measure and have lost some inches. I still need to go buy a measuring tape, I plan to do that this weekend.

Have a super weekend. Smile you will feel better, and may make someone else a little bit happier too!
:dazzle: Cyndiboo

cassborn
Fri, Jan-18-02, 07:39
Hi everyone,
I love this message board. I get so much inspiration from you all.

Mdxgirl37, I weight 320lbs and I do yoga at home with a tape by Brian Kest, Power Yoga Energize 1. I have never taken a yoga class but I bought this tape and I love it. I can't do all of the poses but I get an amazing workout. I like yoga because it is a low impact way to get the blood flowing and it helps me to relax and get focused. The more I do yoga the more flexible I become and as I lose weight I can can get deeper into the poses.

Victoria, Thanks for the tip about the veggies. I do eat alot of veggies but maybe I need to eat more greens and green beans. I think my body has to get used to this WOE.

I have gained about four pounds during my period so I am hoping that I lose it as well as the wight for this week.
I have a question: do you usally lose weight during the week of your period?
Thanks for your support.
Cass

Victoria
Fri, Jan-18-02, 07:49
Hi Cyndiboo!
Your enthusiam is contagious! I'm so happy for you. You are doing great. I'm sorry to hear of the flu...my family has been dealing with that. It does go away eventually. Hopefully you and your husband will be spared.

Cassborn, You must've posted while I was waiting for my computer. I usually gain weight during my period, but it goes away right afterward. I don't usually lose more than where I was before tho. I don't think four pounds during your TOM is unusual. So just wait til it's over, the gain won't stay. Unless you're eating lots of chocolate! :rolleyes:

Thanks for the Yoga tape recommendation. It's always nice to hear what others are doing. I'll have to check that out. ;) I need to do something inside when it's too cold to go out much. :wave: Victoria

cassborn
Sat, Jan-19-02, 04:26
Happy weekend everyone,
Victoria thanks for the info about my TOM. I have a confession to make: last night I had a little bit of chocolate with my reward meal that turned into a lot of chocolate. OOOPs. I hope that I wont pay to much for that. Around my TOM I always find my way to some chocolate. I will be good today and stay focused on my goal.

Cyndiboo, K :wave: eep fighting off the flu and I hope your kids get better soon. Have a great weekend.
Cass

Marion13
Sun, Jan-20-02, 02:52
Well it was a sweltering day in Australia today.... topped around 36 degrees celcius which I think is around 100 degrees F. I have drank so much water today it's a wonder I can't hear myself sloshing when I walk.... must admit I am feeling kinda bloated. I'm sure more water went in than came out LOL...

did water aerobics this morning which I am really starting to enjoy, especially as all the women doing it are on the 'largish' size... am about to go off and start my first journal.

Maz

odd sock
Sun, Jan-20-02, 10:08
I am new to this forum, but have joined because of browsing around the site and seeing success stories like yours. It is so much hard work, and yet the level of determination and patience to see it through amazes. I am so proud of all the people that I have seen on this site.

It is so true about joining classes and size. A while ago, I was taking a fencing class and, even though the instructors had no problems with me, fellow students seemingly believed that big people shouldn't try such activities. There was also a terrible moment at the beginning of the term when everyone had a fencing jacket provided, but there wasn't one large enough for me... several earth-shatteringly long minutes of people looking at me, sizing me up, whispering. Fortunately, the instructors were brilliant in diffusing the problem and getting me a jacket, so I plodded along. When I began the class I could only do up the straps in the back, not fasten it properly with the zipper-- but it didn't stay that way. About a month into it, someone was helping me do up the jacket and all of a sudden-- zzzZZZIIIPPPppp! It was on properly and no one had any cause for scorn.
Again: determination and patience!

Mari, you are fantastic! I know exactly what you mean about seeing that "2" because I keep looking to the horizon when I will see a "1" again!

Victoria
Sun, Jan-20-02, 10:34
Odd Sock,
Fencing? Wow, you are brave. I am impressed with you. Do you still fence?

Glad to see you here in the triple digit club. It's good to be around people dealing with the similiar amounts of weight loss.
Yes, there are lots of people just starting and lots of people in the middle of their weight loss journey. So we can learn from each other along the way. ;) Victoria

Andy Davies
Sun, Jan-20-02, 18:41
Hi Maz and Old Sock, and welcome to the forum and the triple digit club.

Old Sock, I was born and bred in Surrey, came to East Anglia 4 or 5 years ago. Your fencing experiences were sad, funny and disturbingly familiar...I love the humour of your name!

Maz, lots of water is definitely one of the key components of this way of eating. Feels odd sometimes, but make sure to keep doing it! Will look out for your journal.

Andy

Dizz
Sun, Jan-20-02, 20:41
Maz, don't you enjoy water aerobics!! I did them last summer but put the pool to bed for the winter. I have just last week started them at the hospital fitness center. I, too, felt size was an issue and didn't want to do the first visit but bit the bullet and went. Much to my surprize I was in the majority size wise. I have determined I don't care what other people think. I am tired of fat ruling my life and I am taking it back!

Cheryl R
Sun, Jan-20-02, 22:32
I love this tread..so much inthusiasm. I saw someone said they are tired of letting fat rule their lives. I used to feel that way too...now I don't care what people think...but I've yet to get in a bathing suit and go to a pool. I am going to find somewhere to swim laps..as soon as I learn this town. I will get brave and buy a bathing suit soon...I just got a lane bryants catalog and it has suits in it.

About Yoga...is Yoga exercise? I thought it was for meditating??? I don't know much about it.

cassborn
Mon, Jan-21-02, 08:00
Hi everyone,
I hope everyone is doing well. I had a really challenging weekend. I was extremely emotional, (TOM) I was dealing with real issues but my emotions made everything worse. Victory!!! I did stick to the CALP plan during my emotional outburst.

Aside from being a carb addict I was also an emotional eater. I ate when I was upset, sad and when I felt like I was out of control I also ate to reward myself. Now with this WOE I don't have food cravings but I lost my buffer (food) now I have to deal with my feelings about everything. I did not expect to have so many stuffed feelings. I have been journaling and that has really helped me work through some of these stuffed feelings.
I am surprised at how much my weight has influenced the kind of person I am and the kind of life that I lead. I feel as though I have become somewhat of a recluse I only do what I think that I have to do. I have a home-based business but I go out to see my clients I am active in my church and I am involved with family activity's. I am aware now of how uncomfortable I am with my weight out in public around people I don't know. I have been afraid of what people think of me. I know that people don't understand why I am overweight and they judge me for my size. Now that I have found this WOE I feel so much better about myself because now I know that I am doing all that I can to get my weight under control. I am so happy about how much my life is changing by dealing with my weight.

Has anyone else felt like they are more emotional or they have become more aware of their feeling? Please let me know some of the things that you have gone through since changing you WOE.
Thank you.

Cass

BaileyWS
Mon, Jan-21-02, 08:08
Cassborn,

This woe does have effects on your body chemistry and endocrine system ... generally people feel better when they are following the woe, than before they started ... but taking on a new challenge is always stressful. It makes demands on us we're not used to. It gives us rewards as well, but maybe not as quickly or as dramatic as we had hoped.

For me the real emotional days pass in a day or two. The support I get here and from my family is always helpful. And I continue on ...

Hopefully, it will be the same for you.

Victoria
Mon, Jan-21-02, 09:52
Hi Cassborn,
You hit on an important point...and a great way of describing it. Food can be a "buffer" between us and the world. Or a comfort. Obviously that's what got us to this point...seeking solice in food. So, yeah, you have to work out a way to deal with things in a different way. The ironic thing is when you go to food for comfort, it creates more problems. And hence the reclusiveness. I know I became quite a hermit, because of my self consciousness. But now that I am victorious, even tho I'm still big...I find myself venturing out and living life more. I even went for a walk with my youngest before church. I felt energized afterward.

On another issue, it's hard to feel victorious spiritually when you have such a compulsion to deal with. I know I felt so defeated before. But even tho I am not thin yet, now I feel in control and victorious over this problem that has plagued me for so long. I think your journaling is a great idea to help you along the way. And we are here for you as well. :wave: Victoria

cyndiboo
Mon, Jan-21-02, 10:41
You can do this!! You really can. Like the Little Engine That Could, just keep saying, "One more day, just one more day." Before you know it a month will have passed and you will be feeling so much better.

Tomorrow will be day 21 for me and I can't hardly believe it myself. This new WOL does get less complicated. I am finding more and more delicious recipes for such a variety of foods that I will never need to eat another high carb food in my life.

YOU ARE WORTH IT! Keep telling yourself that this is your LIFE!! This is not make believe, this is for real. No director is getting ready to yell cut and tada you are thin again. We had to work at eating to become overweight, so why shouldn't we have to work at eating to become thin?

Hang in there, you will be so much happier, and feel so much better.

(I also left this message with crumbunny who sounded like they needed some encouragement.)

Think thin, Cyndiboo

odd sock
Mon, Jan-21-02, 15:54
HA HA HA HA HA!!! (an obvious LOL!)

Andy, dear, it's odd sock.... I suppose niether is a compliment to myself when you think about it! :rolleyes:

I did fencing for about a year recently at university.
I stopped because (1) I graduated and moved and (2) my knees had been bothering me.

BUT, depending on my knees (and I think weight loss will help that as well) I may take it up again. It is the adventurer in me, which is why I have become really serious about weight loss... I have decided that I want to be an adventurer when I grow up (at the tender age of 32.) I want to climb mountains (I have plans to climb up Mt. Snowden in Wales this summer,) ride horses, learn how to dance, and do martial arts. I think that I would do better if I was in condition to do it and this is what inspires me every day.
Yi-yi-yi-yi!!! Let's GO!

Tazmani77
Mon, Jan-21-02, 18:00
Hello, I started Atkins in June of 2001 and have lost 53 pounds so far. I recently regained 4 pounds of that back when I tried to go on the WW diet for a week. YUCK! I won't do that again. Well I'm back on LC to stay and would like to post with you guys for support while I trim off the rest of this weight. I got about 100+ pounds to go so I'm going to need a lot of help. Do you guys have room in here for me? :)

:wave:

Marion13
Tue, Jan-22-02, 03:29
We all have a lot to lose in here but with the support and encouragement we give to each other we will all make it. Wow you have already lost a heap, keep up the good work.

I have only recently started on Atkins after years of trying every low-fat diet known to man... I'd lose a bit, then plateau, then start gaining again and end up heavier than when I started. I truly believe that this WOE is the only one that will work for me and it obviously is working for you too.

Have you started your journal yet?? Look forward to catching up with you there.

Maz

cassborn
Tue, Jan-22-02, 08:50
Thanks everyone for your encouragemnet. I know that this WOE is such a major change for me and my body and mind have to adjust. I do feel as though day by day I am getting a little stronger and becoming more bold. I don't want to be a recluse and I don't want to be embarassed about my body. My body is changing each and every day and I feel so much better than I ever did before.
I know it took a long time to get this way and will take a long time for me to undo what I have done.

Having support and knowing that so many of you have been successful helps me to stay focused.
Thanks.
Cass

Sh'ra
Tue, Jan-22-02, 09:36
Hi, everybody, and welcome to all of you new ones! It's great to see this thread so busy after only having been gone for a few days! It's really encouraging seeing so many new folks here, and so much determination.

YOGA - someone asked about Yoga, so I thought I'd throw a few cents in. Yoga can be a "religious meditation" exercise brought to us from the Eastern world. However, it can also simply be stretching and breathing exercises without the spiritual connotations. If you are of a particular religion, and concerned about the teacher of a live class, I would simply ask. Many fitness centers have stretching classes that are very similar to yoga without the religious content. There are also many videotapes without the content as well. I have one at home, and it is very relaxing (as well as invigorating). Many people swear by this exercise and state that it tones them better than weights or cardio exercises.

Just as an introduction of myself to the new folks here (and Odd Sock, I love your name, too - it made me laugh the first time I saw it :) ), I began this WOE about two years ago, and lost a total of 85 lbs. However, then I went off it and gained back 25. I've been on this board since around October, and have really enjoyed the encouragement and inspiration found here. I began on Atkins this time, but have shifted it somewhat into my own LC-based plan. I don't think I'm losing as fast, but I can live with it as long as I lose.

Oh, and Odd Sock, I love adventure, too - my main motivation to lose weight is so I'll feel better and be able to do all the things I want to do. I want to climb Pike's Peak with my husband and daughter (who are planning on doing that one day, maybe even this summer), and I want to be able to run, play, and be a contestant on "Survivor" :D

Hope you all stick around and get full benefit from this forum!

Shalom,
Sh'ra

bsayne
Tue, Jan-22-02, 13:05
Welcome Odd Sock, Taz, Maz and forgive me if I missed anyone! This thread never fails to crack me up and make me think, usually very close together!

Yoga...thanks for the tape tip as the two I purchased started out with salutation to the sun for....ever....(about 10 times) and I like a little slower intro! As far as the call ahead class comments...I just fume when I think about discrimination toward any individual! I would prefer to think that they referred you to another class due to the beginner level, as some advanced yoga can be more aerobic than you would imagine!

My favorite high end of wt exercise was definately water aerobics..and still would be if I wasn't watching kids from 6:30am on...if you don't have classes but have a pool available...thats not frozen over...you can even just walk the water at waist level and get a good work out from the resistance. There are great gloves, shoes and waist belts for deep water resistance...My first suit was a 24...now the 16 fits...some may say were just playing in the water but its fun and good for you.

I had another bonus this week-end...I went camping with the scouts and for the FIRST TIME EVER used no pharmacuticals to endure sleeping on my deluxe camp mat on the ground!! That is a first and a real pleasure not to wake up in agony, unable to sit up let alone walk...as previously has been the case! I started out on a cot so the next step now is a much smaller...thinner inflatable sleep pad...one that would work for backpacking...one of my long term goals. I hope you are all setting short and long term goals..and of course the rewards that go with them, as it makes your journey on this WOL so much more pleasurable to acknowledge all successes and steps in the rights direction...

This is not a diet, to me that indicates you are either off or on. As a WOL it is all part of a journey of learning and success even if it is sometimes just one meal at a time.

Bsayne

Victoria
Tue, Jan-22-02, 14:42
Bsayne,
You are always so inspiring! I have to say your journal now a days makes me feel like I have to get up and MOVE! Your enthusiasm is very contagious. I just started walking with my youngest son. He rollerblades while I walk. It's alot easier than when I was bigger. I used to get shin splints, but no more. It's been nice here, not too cold for walking and the sun been's out, so we've been having a great time at it. It'll be a while before I do a more strenuous work out, but I'm glad that I'm doing this and walking for 30 minutes a day. And my son is so persistant I can't flake out.

Backpacking in this weather? Where'd you go? Hope you had a good sleeping bag! Well, enjoy hearing from you all... :wave: Victoria

Marion13
Fri, Jan-25-02, 01:52
Exercise - one of my real downfalls. Must say I haven't tried yoga but would really love to. I am currently doing deep-water aeorbics where you wear a belt around your waist and do a work out in deep water. Find it really good fun and there is no way I could do a normal aeorbics class yet (with all them skinny chicky-babes in g-string leotards) ho hum, one day. What I really want to do is to get back playing tennis. Ten years ago, and about 90 pounds lighter I played competition tennis three nights a week and was B grade singles champion of the club. That is what I really miss and it is one of my goals to be able to play again before the end of this year.

Maz

K-Louise
Fri, Jan-25-02, 14:52
Hi Maz, that is a great goal, and one I have no doubt you will get to. That will perpetuate your loss even more. I must get by to read your Journal again soon. You have been so supportive and encouraging to me, and many others here. Thank you.

Speaking of goals.... as my fellow australians know, it is summer her now. I live on the beach. My goal is to walk along the beach next summer, wearing my swimsuit, and nothing else, and not feeling the need to cover up and feel self-conscious. That will be so soul lightening for me.

Kim

Dizz
Fri, Jan-25-02, 15:23
Marion13, I recently started water aerobics as well. Do you find that it helps the weight loss or just in inches? I'm sorta stuck at 258 and needed a kick start to losing again.

Andy Davies
Fri, Jan-25-02, 18:46
Hi Odd Sock,

Sorry I managed to get your name wrong. (Thought they were both funny though!)

You do not say if you graduated from Surrey University, but I was living in Guildford before Surrey University was ever built there. It was built just before you were born, when I was in my teens. Perhaps it is this great age of mine that causes lapses like getting your name mixed up!

Andy

Jimsgems
Sat, Jan-26-02, 20:59
I'm still here, only now there is a lot less of me, 55 lbs to be exact in 57 day's. I know this won't go on for ever but so far it's been an easy trip and I've never felt better, from all the egg's and fat I'vve been eating my coat is very silky and glossy. I'm totally off all diabetic medications. My Endo said he wishes he had the number's I have... BP 118/68, pulse 64, HDL/LDL 80. I entered the range of only 100 lbs. to go. :D

Andy Davies
Sat, Jan-26-02, 21:16
Hey Jimsgems,

Fantastic news!

Everyone here will be delighted for you. What an inspiration you're going to become. And you must be feeling so much better in yourself, as well as so relieved, at this news.

I have people asking me for reassurances about cholesterol, and the kind of readings you are talking about, so you would be a good person to quote...if that is OK?

Andy

bsayne
Sat, Jan-26-02, 22:45
You are on a major roll! That is great news!

Dizz; The water aerobics will help both wt and inches depending on the effort you apply! You will see all fitness levels and all levels of output in most classes...don't worry about that...just have a good time and do what feels comfortable for you! If you are a strong/comfortable swimmer than deepwater is a good choice...some people are not comfortable in deep water even with the waist belt and look a little like those weeble dolls rocking back and forth...As with adding any form of exercise...take it slow and give your body time to adjust to the added demands you have just placed on it..I slept for the first 2+ weeks of water aerobics and was about to throw in the towel....when I finally could keep my eyes open for the day!

Victoria; Big Basin...outside Santa Cruz...it was a balmy 28 degrees...no wonder I couldn't drink all my water...it was 1/2 frozen~ It was great though...and next time I bring the insulated water bottle...

Bsayne

K-Louise
Sat, Jan-26-02, 23:26
A pound a day..... that is amazing Jim. No wonder you are feeling good.. that's a lot less weight to carry around. It is inspiring.

Beth and Maz, I am going to look into water aerobics... that sounds like a perfect exercise for me right now to begin to get some tone. lol ~ at a WEEBLE doll???? I love some of the international words you pick up here.

Dropping my calories to 2000 a day has certainly helped me. I'm still keeping my ratios at around 67% fat, 3% carbs, and 30% protein. It seems to be working well for me now. I'm confident that my pounds to lose will very soon be under 100 pounds .. that will be a milestone for me.... 6 to go :D

The eye must play strange tricks.. I too though Odd Socks' name was Old Sock :daze:

Jimsgems
Sun, Jan-27-02, 00:35
Andy;
Sure, it's OK, use me, abuse me, just no carbs. :D

Thanks all for the warm comments and wishes for continued loss.

I am very happy and I am feeling better physically and emotionally than I have in years. I'm still a big guy and always will be, I just won't be fat! I long time ago and far, far away I was a 210 lb. Special Forces Ranger and a Olympic style power lifter, running up to 10 miles a day in training built a very good cardovascular system, but years of abuse and disuse caused the pounds to pile on untill I stepped on the Scale and it said... "Get off Me, One at a Time!" (That really happened).

I got the message. I am very sure I will never again see the well conditioned young soldier, jumping out of airplanes, eating snakes, slogging through the jungle, wearing a funny green hat, killing people in exotic foreign lands or being a cop making the streets safe for the good guys. Thank God. But now I will stand a chance of making it to old age, I can handle that.

PJ in Miam
Sun, Jan-27-02, 04:45
Well, if it's any consolation...

... you can still eat snakes. :D

PJ

bellablue
Sun, Jan-27-02, 07:14
I've been really lazy and haven't posted in awhile but I have have to say Hooray to Jim for his success. I have been on a modified type Adkins since August of 2001 and I've lost about 60 pounds. But clearly the better benefit to this is that nearly all my fibromyalgia symptoms are gone and I've kicked sugar totally. And feel GREAT! I have never felt better eating all these "formerly bad foods" from my low fat watching days. Now all I have to do is exercise more (that stationary bike awaits me in the garage). Prior to starting my carb-watching I was so tired--everything about me was slow. Walked slow, thought slow, couldn't stand for long periods of time--who would have known it was sugar and massive carbs that were slowing me down. I have my "edge" back and feel like I'm in my 30's (I'm almost 52). The low carbing has given me my life back!! <html><img src="C:\My Documents\blackcat5.gif"><html>~~bella :wave:

Dizz
Sun, Jan-27-02, 13:12
Congrat's to Jim!! Bet your wife has to wear sunglasses in the house because of the glare from your high gloss coat. ha

You're doing great. Good to hear from you again.

K-Louise
Sun, Jan-27-02, 13:27
Ok, well my scales did a little dance again this morning, but they refused to go over 279.5.... I'm erring on the conservative side and posting 279.5. That means that for the first time since 1994 I weigh less than 20 stone. That is a GOOD and WONDERFUL thing. My little scale <--- (see left) is telling me I finally made it to 10%. Wooo hooooo

:dazzle:

I promised myself that every 10% would bring a reward (not that I don't reward myself all the time anyway :D) but this will be ... ummmmm ... a bottle of my favourite perfume! Oh, and every 10% will; bring a new photo (I'm tired of seeing this one) so watch this space.

Reading and participating in this forum has definately helped.

Kim

Andy Davies
Sun, Jan-27-02, 13:31
Jim, you crack me up!

Bellablue, great to hear from you again, and thanks for sharing your good news too. Success stories like this really make a difference when I'm answering the questions of new members about whether this woe is safe, and whether there will be any benefits.

Kim, glad you've found a formula that works for you.

Andy

Jimsgems
Sun, Jan-27-02, 14:27
You good folks, make me smile too. Kim, make the perfume "Beautiful", that is such a wonderful fragrance.

Yep! We can still eat snake, but I've given up Iggy and Monkey for Lent and for some reason just never started up again. I gave up war and killing too. That's a good thing. We have soldiers to do what we won't or cannot any longer do, they are all Heros in my book. Brits and Americans as well.

Thank you all again. :D

Sh'ra
Mon, Jan-28-02, 14:45
PJ,
**ROFLOL** I was thinking the same thing - after all, snakes are protein

Congrats on the successes, Jim and K-Louise! :wave:

Shalom,
Sh'ra

Jimsgems
Mon, Jan-28-02, 15:19
Sh'ra;

U 2 make me LOL, Your a sweet lady. Thank you.

Shalom, Peace, Blessings, Sah'Wa-dee and Ah-Wah. 5 Blessings to all of you.

Jimsgems
Mon, Jan-28-02, 15:22
KL,

Nice new avitar, I don't care what anyone thinks (LOL), you are a pretty lady. :D

Victoria
Mon, Jan-28-02, 19:20
K-Louise,
So happy for you!!! Good to see the percentages change. That's exciting. I tried to visit your journal the other day and realized I am WAY behind. I think the last time I visited was page 5. :rolleyes: So I will have to drop by again.

Bella,
Thanks for sharing that about fibromyalgia. I have friends with that and now know to tell them about this.

See you all around and so good to see all the success!!! :daze: Victoria

Cheryl R
Tue, Jan-29-02, 00:05
This group has gotten kind of silly since the last time I was here. Kim...you put up a new picture...you look different in this one. You're at your 10% mark...that's good...mine says 13% but it's not really true...I have 199 as my goal weight in there now....when I reach that I will decide what my final goal will be...somewhere between 150 and 175.
some of us in the 199 club put 199 as our goal for now.

I think I will read this thread more often...it seems like an active thread...and it's so nice to read notes from people who are in the same boat as me...with over 100 pounds to lose.

Jimsgems
Tue, Jan-29-02, 00:32
We are or have become a "Wild and Crazy Group", me too. He-He!
It's mearly a reflection of our former selves. :D

Lessara
Tue, Jan-29-02, 10:28
What's life without some silliness!? :p
I love the humor keep it up.
Lets face it, it keeps us going, doesn't it? :D

Jimsgems
Tue, Jan-29-02, 10:43
It is my belief system that my God created laughter because, He too had a sence of humor... other wise why did He create people?

Now that's just my demented point of view. :D

cassborn
Tue, Jan-29-02, 19:03
Hi everyone,
I don't mean to be a party pooper when everyone is having so much fun. I had a really hard day today. I am a SAHM as well as I have a home-based business ( fashion design). My two children are 4.5 and 2 and some days are better than others. Today was a long hard day. At my reward meal I went banana's I ate way too much and I had a flash back to the days when I used to eat when I was stressed. The srange thing is I didn't want to eat I litterally forced myself to eat. I am discouraged because I have been doing so good on this WOE. I have never stuck with any eating plan for this long and I am on track to lose twenty pounds in eight weeks (this is week eight) but after tonight it might take a few extra days?

Sabotage anyone :q: I feel as though I sabotage myself when ever I begin to be successful. Maybe I am over reacting to this pitfall. HELP, please I need a little boast. Thanks everyone.
Cass :(

Jimsgems
Tue, Jan-29-02, 19:22
Hey Sweetie you don't have to beat yourself up, someday's are tougher than others, we know that, you are doing a good job, just put in a correction and move on.