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Corrie
Wed, Jul-10-02, 11:48
what did Dr. A say?? was it a good interview???

Tanyaskees
Wed, Jul-10-02, 11:49
I wear a 12 or a 14 in jeans and pants, but 16 or bigger in tops. It really sucks, I hate it.

Tanyaskees
Wed, Jul-10-02, 11:53
It was a good interview, Dr. A sounded so confident and the interviewer actually listened. And they took calls too. Then they has some other Dr. on disagreeing with low carb, and all he could say was the same old bull over and over again. No long term proof....blah...blah...blah. People called in that have been low carbing and improved their health and all he could say that there are no long term............. Well, you get the drift.

Corrie
Wed, Jul-10-02, 12:00
Well - considering that Dr. A released his first book in the 1970's - seems like "long term proof" to me!!!

HAHAHA - I LOVE iT!

Tanyaskees
Wed, Jul-10-02, 12:06
12s are too BIG??????????? I hate you even more now.

sydneyalex
Wed, Jul-10-02, 12:10
Corrie - you must be losing lots of inches...I;m sorry guess your in 10s now....If I could get to a 9 and stay there I would be happy.

Corrie
Wed, Jul-10-02, 12:16
Wow - that was strange....

Corrie
Wed, Jul-10-02, 12:17
I could send you a pix of when I wore a size 6 and then you'd really love me.....
I don't want to buy more clothes yet - I keep drying my 12's in a really super hot hot hot dryer to try to shrink them down but by the end of the day they are swishing around me......what to do...

Tanyaskees
Wed, Jul-10-02, 12:24
Oh....you poor baby, my heart just breaks for you. If I could take away that particular problem from you, just to help you out, you know, I would :p

Corrie
Wed, Jul-10-02, 12:33
I REALLY appreciate the thought. LOL :roll:

I remember getting on the scales once when I was 15 or 16 I about had a cow - they said 150. That is when I realized that I had a problem. I struggled with it for 20 years...
THATS "TWENTY YEARS"
20 years of my life spent fat and miserable. When I was pregnant - I got called a "Beached Whale". I have been there and done that - I have been the fat girl with the preety face for as LONG as I can remember. 20 years of depression...... and the starvation that never worked.
So believe me - I feel for anybody who has the problem. I borrowed Dr. Atkins first book from some neighbors and after I read it I refused to give it back. I really did. They asked twice and then left me alone.
So do anything you can to make it work better for you - beg borr & steal - take metabolife to boost your system - whatever works - do it ...Both of you...QUIT CHEATING. It's not worth it.
The end result is.
Phew - I feel better....


:devil:

sydneyalex
Wed, Jul-10-02, 12:46
I know I needed that sermon.....LOL...

Thanks Corrie..... ;) You are so right.

Tanyaskees
Wed, Jul-10-02, 12:52
I know how you feel Corrie, I have been fat all my life. My mom used to tell me how people would stop her on the street with me in the stroller and say how cute and chubby I was. CUTE...NOT. I don't feel fat anynome, just pleasantly plump...LOL.

sydneyalex
Wed, Jul-10-02, 13:05
I have never had problems until I turned 40...then I got fat...I was always a size 9 or 10...the most I ever weighed was 155 but being 5 6 it didnt bad. I can carry weight pretty good. Right now I dont think I look like I weigh 180...but I sure feel it...Still cant belive I let myself go this long......Around xmas time I was around 190...I got that off quickly.....

Corrie - I just love your attitude and the way you look at things...I will get there with you. I promise. I really want to/No more cheats!

Rhonda

Corrie
Wed, Jul-10-02, 15:46
Rhonda - good for you!!!

I just got back from a late lunch and have to watch the phones as our recp. has to leave early today ...groan.

Tanya - I just wanna slap anybody who says my baby is chubby (she is) I think its the "like mother like daughter" insinuation that really chaps my behind.....but all babies are like that for the most part and once they hit 2 or so they have usually outgrown it - whe gets taller everyday I swear.....But my point is as soon as she is old enough to give up her bottle etc - I am going to teach her the right way to eat so she won't have to worry about it EVER!

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-11-02, 09:01
Morning girls :wave:
Well. I took a pump and tone class last night, and I only have one word to say this monrning....OUCH!!!!!!!!!! I am moving
S L O W L Y

How are you all doing :).

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 09:18
Good morning
Yawn.

sydneyalex
Thu, Jul-11-02, 09:23
Morning you two!

Busy day here.

Rhonda

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 10:05
Here as well.....

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-11-02, 10:10
Ya'll are boring today and nobody cares that I hurt.....WHAHHHHHHHH

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 10:16
That's not true - I'm just not awake yet and am trying to work.....
I HATE that.
Heres a hug for you!!!


:bhug:

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-11-02, 10:18
OHHHH, how sweet, I needed a hug....thank you :).

sydneyalex
Thu, Jul-11-02, 10:25
Tanya here is rose for you!! :rose:

I care too...but its a good kind of hurt isnt it....I am just in a really bad mood...just found out my last child support check bounced and now all my checks I wrote are gonna bounce.,..I am so mad and he is due to pay again tomorrow.......MEN>>>>>and I cannot locate him whatsoever.......

Rhonda

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-11-02, 10:29
Thanks Rhonda :).

I off to a long meeting, be back after lunch. Talk to you ladies later. Cheer up Rhonda, and yes, men are trouble :daze:

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 10:34
I know what you mean - My ex owes me almost 30K.....

sydneyalex
Thu, Jul-11-02, 10:37
30K and you cant do anything about it....I dont get it...I thought they locked people up for that....

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 10:41
you can't lock some one up who has no address - pays no bills - just lives off other people and...well you get the idea....

sydneyalex
Thu, Jul-11-02, 10:44
Sounds like you have been thru some tough times too...well you know where I am coming from...

I depend on that money to survive...I cant believe this. :mad:

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 10:49
You bet I understand - I was on my own for years - and got NOTHING from him. When he took off with his girlfriend I had a 1 year old and was 2 weeks pregnant - it's probably a good thing I didn't know about the baby - who know how long the hell would have gone on......

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 10:55
It was hell - My poor kids...
Those 2 boys are so screwed up right now.......
The haven't had any contact with him in years and all of the sudden he wants to talk to them.....I won't let him.
I am such the bitch.

sydneyalex
Thu, Jul-11-02, 11:00
I wouldnt let him talk to them either...what a loser..

For two years I got no support for my daughter...then finally a court order was done...(I was never married to him, in fact he was married to someone else when I got pregnant) I know I know....I will never do anything like that again..Now he is orded to pay me 375.00 a month...and he has been doing pretty well with it/but last weekend he left he precious wife for someone else and now his daugher will have to suffer.

Rhonda

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 11:07
It sounds as if you ended up with a "PEACH" as well....
Mine was just a "JEWEL" ...and the funny thing is - (and this is what kills me) - He doesn't remember half of what he did to me as he is an alcoholic - he called me on his 12 step program a couple years ago to ask my forgiveness...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

I told him that to forgive him I'd have to feel something for him - love or hate - and I told him I felt neither and to look for forgiveness somewhere else as I had nothing for him - he's get no absolution from me..... and to basically FO.

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 11:08
I really screwed up his 12 step program......HAHAHAHAH

sydneyalex
Thu, Jul-11-02, 11:13
You deleted a step and made it a 11 step program----- :p

Good for you, I sure have a way of getting myself into some messes.....He works for the same company I do...we are all spread out tho...This company employes about 1000 people, I have called but cant locate him...

I knew when he left his wife there would be problems.

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 11:19
OH ABSOLUTELY!!! YOU WERE SO RIGHT...

Another funny thing is that when my X's girlfriend kicked him out he came crawling back and asked if I would take him back and we'd move to Montana (his parents were there) and nobody would know what happened....
I told him no - and the next day he called me back to say nevermind - they were back together - just in case I had changed my mind.........

sydneyalex
Thu, Jul-11-02, 11:32
He had some nerve didnt he..

He sounds like one of those men that cant be without a woman.
They just gotta have a woman....no matter what.

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 11:47
An adoring woman in one hand and a bottle of booze in the other.....

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 11:54
Now I am PO'd all OVER again.

sydneyalex
Thu, Jul-11-02, 11:55
Guess men are the same all over the world arent they!!!!! '

I sure have had a lot of bad luck with them.

sydneyalex
Thu, Jul-11-02, 11:57
I'm sorry....didnt mean to get your stirred up!! :there:

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 12:00
I went thru my share as well until I found my husband - we have been together almost 12 years (next month) and married for 6 - he is all my boys know...So there are good ones out there - ya just never know when you will come across one....

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 12:01
No worries mate!!
It's my kids that I protect - he has hurt them so many times - that is what gets me upset......

sydneyalex
Thu, Jul-11-02, 12:05
Its the kids that always suffer!

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 12:08
Yes - the kids always suffer - and they dont care.
They will later.....

sydneyalex
Thu, Jul-11-02, 12:31
You have a steak and I have another chicken leg....you go girl....

That steak looks pretty yummy!!!

I am trying to snap out of this mood..and quit worrying.

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 12:38
Yeah me too - let's change the subject...

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-11-02, 12:42
Hey Corrie, you have a steak....yeahhhh.

Boy, I leave for a couple of hours and you who just get all bend out of shape. You sure know how to pick them. Corrie, I am glad you finally have a decent man. I have been married for 10 years, so far so good. We have our moments, but over all it's not bad. He is pretty good guy....sometimes..LOL.

sydneyalex
Thu, Jul-11-02, 12:46
Welcome back Tanya...we have been having quite a discussion about MEN.......Glad you two found a decent one..maybe there is hope for me yet. :confused:

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-11-02, 12:51
Originally posted by sydneyalex
Glad you two found a decent one. :confused:

Today I think he is decent, tomorrow may be a different story.....LOL.

You will find the right guy when you least expect it.

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 12:54
I am the same way - today he is the greatest - tomorrow may be different!!!

sydneyalex
Thu, Jul-11-02, 12:56
I dont think I even care about having one anymore......

Not worth all the trouble.

Rhonda

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-11-02, 12:58
Sometimes I think that too. Being alone soundsnice once in a while, besides, I have my babies.

Hey guys, I think I may have an idea of what has me stalled. I just found out that peanuts are not really nuts but legumes(sp?). And I sould not eat them. Ihave been eating them every day. No more peanuts for 2 weeks to see if the weight moves.

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 13:05
OH Absolutely!!!
Cut out the peanuts - bad bad bad (till later on!!!)
eat macadamia nuts!!! - but only like 10.....never any more than that!

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-11-02, 13:23
I love macademia nuts, but they are so darn expensive. $5.99 for a little jar. But I will do as you say, no more peanuts. Why didn't you tell me this before, you should be able to read my mind by now and see what I am eating wrong :p

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 13:33
Sorry - my brain must have been on a vacation - but seriously - do you have a journal and write down what you eat everyday???
What about here in the journals forun - both of you do it so I can see - and be honest!!!

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-11-02, 13:42
No, I don't have a journal, it is a little too structured for me. I go with the flow and not stress about every bite that goes into my mouth. I will loose this weight, just at my own pace.

Corrie
Thu, Jul-11-02, 13:47
Take a look at my journal sometime - it is no where near structured. It just may help you identify habits or foods that are causing problems...

sydneyalex
Thu, Jul-11-02, 13:56
Thats a good idea...I dont know if I would have time to keep a journal...but might need to try.

Rhonda :(

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-11-02, 14:04
I'll think about it. It doesn't sound fun, and I hate to do stuff that is no fun if I don't have to. What can I say, I am lazy :roll:

Tanyaskees
Fri, Jul-12-02, 09:20
Morning girls :wave:
TGIF........................ :Party:

Corrie
Fri, Jul-12-02, 09:22
Need coffee - even if it is decaf.....

Corrie
Fri, Jul-12-02, 09:31
OK - I am back - that's better.
I am pretty excited - we are going to a non fire BBQ (no fires allowed in utah at all right now) with the scooter club we are joining. So - I think I'll take one of those roasted chickens, cheese,...what else???

We are having to drive as the scooter won't be done for a few more weeks - but it will be fun anyway.....

cherg74
Fri, Jul-12-02, 09:43
so i suppos :( e chunky peanut butter is out of the question!

Corrie
Fri, Jul-12-02, 09:44
IT is for now.

Tanyaskees
Fri, Jul-12-02, 09:46
That sounds like fun Corrie, can I come?
And yes cherg74, no chunky peanut butter :D

Corrie
Fri, Jul-12-02, 09:50
You bet you can come!! We are heading up to the mountains to escape the heat!!!
I am trying to find a picture oc a similar scooter so you know what I am talking about...... B right back.

Corrie
Fri, Jul-12-02, 09:57
OK - if I can get this to work (don't know how big the file really is) this is pretty close to our vintage Lambretta SX200 - But I don't want to upset any Lambretta freaks out there - this is actually a Lambretta SX150.....(Scooter owners take this very seriously)

Corrie
Fri, Jul-12-02, 09:59
OK - i know what I did wrong...

Corrie
Fri, Jul-12-02, 10:02
But it will have the single seat and the spare tire mount fron the previous photo!!!
COOL!

Tanyaskees
Fri, Jul-12-02, 10:17
That looks like fun, how fast do they go?

Where is Rhonda this morning?

Corrie
Fri, Jul-12-02, 10:25
They can be quite fun!!! and quite dangerous.

Wonder where rhonda is today.

Tanyaskees
Fri, Jul-12-02, 10:33
that is fast :).

Hey, did yoga last night....interesting. Not quiet sure if Ilike it or not. Definitely will try it again.

Corrie
Fri, Jul-12-02, 12:02
What is it like - I have always wanted to try it!

Corrie
Fri, Jul-12-02, 12:20
WELCOME BACK SUMMER!!!

summer10
Fri, Jul-12-02, 12:40
We got back about an hour ago. Had a great time, but also had several "cheats".

It took me a while to read all of your posts since Monday.

I am glad to be home - it's nice to go away, but it's always nice to come home too. Plus at home I eat much healthier.

I made an effort to eat LC, even brought LC food with me so that I could control some of what we ate. But we were on vacation and I just wanted things that I shouldn't have had.

Well I am back to 100% LC as of today and I will make up for last week.

Summer

Corrie
Fri, Jul-12-02, 13:11
I saw your list - don't worry about it!!!
You'll be ok!! Just drink lots of water and eat NOTHING but protein for a few days....

Tanyaskees
Fri, Jul-12-02, 14:49
SUMMER....welcome back girlfiend :). Hope you had a great time. Tell us all about it.

Corrie, yoga is a little strange, lots of weird positions. You definitly have to s have strong arms and legs. I have strong legs, but not arms, and I also have a hurt wrist, so I could not do some of it. Try it.

Corrie
Fri, Jul-12-02, 14:58
Ok - I'll look around here and see what is available. Sounds strange however.....But then I teach bellydance and am used to weird positions. LOL
Have a great weekend :wave: everybody!

Tanyaskees
Fri, Jul-12-02, 15:10
You too girl, talk to you on monday :wave:

moniquej8
Fri, Jul-12-02, 17:53
Hello All !
This has been one hell of a week, and how ironic to see what some of the topics were while I was absent from forum. I have been so busy creating an affidavate. I have some questions maybe someone can give me some input.
My husband has a little girl from a relationship prior to us meeting. She is 3 yrs old. He is in the Marine Corps and has been stationed overseas for the past 2 years with military commiments. His ex girlfriend is a gem to say the least! She is living off the state. There has been no court order for child support due to the fact she did not want to address the courts, she wanted him to pay her $100.00 a week under the table, which of course he refused to do so. Instead he opened up a bank account and had money direct depostited in this account every pay till he got back to the states to adresse the courts himself. 9 months ago before he had a chance to address the courts she was made to apply for support. There is now a court order. he has paid over $12000.00 in support to her in the past 9 months she wont allow us to have any contact with the little girl. She changed phone numbers etc.... She is in MN we are in NC. This girl is still on welfare. The courts hammered him with child support and court ordered him to pay for child care as well, even though she is NOT WORKING! She claims she needs child care so she can go to the library and sit on her ass to search for a job on the internet! My question is......
1. Does anyone know the guidlines on how they decide on visitation from state to state.
2. How can we make her use the insurance we have on the little girl for DRs care instead of using the welfare card? Everytime she uses the welfare card for med treatment the dept of welfare sends the bills to us since it is on the court order that my husband pays 100% of all med bills.
We have only been able to retain a lawyer this week and have not had much contact with him yet due to the fact we had to hire an attorney from MN since that is the state she lives in.
This is very hard on both of us, I just want to scream! She is using the little girl as a pawn. Right before he came home, she dropped her off at his parents house saying she wants nothing to do with her, Child services got involved and gave her back to her!
Any input would be a big help!
Monique

summer10
Sat, Jul-13-02, 10:29
Corrie,
Thanks for the encouragement. I had a good day yesterday and am doing good so far today. Although while I was out this morning I considered getting a frozen mocha coffee (since I've already cheated), but I restrained myself and am safely back home.

Hey Tanya,
How are you doing? We did have a great time, but I also ate some unacceptable foods. But as I said to Corrie, I am back on track now. (I even exercised this morning!)

Hi Monique,
Sorry that I don't have any feedback for you regarding your situation. That is really too bad, especially for the little girl. I wish you the best in resolving this, hopefully the attorney will be able to get your husband visitation rights.

Hope that everyone has a great weekend.

Summer

sydneyalex
Mon, Jul-15-02, 07:53
Hi Summer, - Welcome back.....missed you :(

Hi Corrie, Tanya & Monique....Hope all is well..I was not here on friday....had a tearful and upseting day witth my daughers father/he threated to take her from me..He did pay me the child supp for the bounced checkand the current amount due....he did not howver pay for daycare which he has been doing...that came out of my pocket.....blames all his troubles on me......

ANYWAY I am feeling better today - guess what i lost 2 pounds - that puts me at 178/.......isnt that wonderful...I love losing...its about time. :thup:

MOnique - dont know how to advise you on that situation.....got problems myself...good luck.

Rhonda

summer10
Mon, Jul-15-02, 08:07
Hi Rhonda,

Congratulations on your loss :)

Sorry to hear about your problems, is everything ok now? I missed you on Friday.

I am back to work today, my desk is a mess and I had 90 emails!!! But luckily my boss is out today so I should be able to get something done.

Summer

sydneyalex
Mon, Jul-15-02, 08:15
Summer - I feel much better today...although it seems I cannot type this morning.......kinda out of it..

How was your vacation....did you have fun? I know you did.

Rhonda :)

summer10
Mon, Jul-15-02, 09:01
Rhonda,

I'm glad you are feeling better. You must be happy about your loss - do you think it's the extra water you're drinking or something else?

I did have a great vacation, very relaxing and I got to do lots of shopping.

I wish I didn't have to work for a living - although there is probably no hope that that will ever happen. I will probably feel better about being here after I have been back for a few days. If I didn't have to work, and still had $ I could definetly fill my days!

Summer

Corrie
Mon, Jul-15-02, 09:18
Whoo Hoo girl!!!
Congrats on you loss ...
I have to get caught up this morning so more later!!

Tanyaskees
Mon, Jul-15-02, 09:29
WAY TO GO RHONDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

Morning ya'll. Hope everyone had a great weekend.

sydneyalex
Mon, Jul-15-02, 09:36
Me too....I am really out of it today.....I wanna go home.......
and yes I am drinking lots of water.

sydneyalex
Mon, Jul-15-02, 09:37
Thanks Corrie and Tanya....

Was waiting on those little cheerleaders.....they are so cute....now that I'm in the 70's not going back to the 80s

You guys are the greatest....Missed talking with you all on friday.

Rhonda

summer10
Mon, Jul-15-02, 09:40
Hi Corrie and Tanya,

How are you guys doing this morning?

Did you have a good weekend?

Summer

summer10
Mon, Jul-15-02, 09:41
Corrie,

I've been LCing all weekend, (since Friday) and feel like I am back on track. I checked this morning, I an not back in ketosis yet but am hoping I will be by tomorrow.

Summer

Corrie
Mon, Jul-15-02, 09:48
Good morning all.
I had an ok weekend - was very hot here - we broke all kinds of records. I think sat was up to 110, yesterday 105.
Today is supposed to be a lot cooler - 98. We spent all weekend in the pool. Didn't even cook anything. Had cold meat and cheese, salad etc. I did go to the gem show on sat am before it got too hot - found a beautiful opal bracelet.....OOPS.

I'm afraid to get on the scales - don't know why - haven't cheated at ALL. you know me - i never do - but oh well.

Tanyaskees
Mon, Jul-15-02, 09:49
I did have a pretty good weekend. I found a workout I really like. Have you guys ever tried jazzercize. It is sooooooooo much fun, I loved it. I am going to do it 4 time a week.

sydneyalex
Mon, Jul-15-02, 09:52
Tanya - you and I weigh the same now....how about that....And I love jazzericse......I am going to join Riviera next month.

Corrie - you know its about that TOM for you and I ....think its suppose to be Wednesday...maybe thats why you dont want to weigh...I feel like I am retaining water.....but I still lost 2 pounds so something is going right.......

Tanyaskees
Mon, Jul-15-02, 10:24
We sure do Rhonda, I think that's great :). I am actually flactuating between 180 and 178, have been for the last few weeks. Hopefully jazzercise will kick my butt in gear. I am ready to move down some.

Corrie
Mon, Jul-15-02, 10:30
Thanks for reminding me.....That probably is a direct contributor to lovely the mood I am in...Are you sure it almost TOM already???
I had to break down and take on of my husbands Xanex last night as there was no way I was going to calm down on my own - even tylenol pm was not going to do the trick last night - I took it early and slept for 9 hours - so I feel pretty good physically. Mentally I want to take somebody's head off.....Well I guess I had better start mentally preparing my self - I need to just hide for a few days and keep my mouth shut......

sydneyalex
Mon, Jul-15-02, 11:03
I am sure Corrie...its been 4 weeks on Wednesday....I feel about the same way...except I want to cry all the time.........It comes around too often.

Rhonda :mad:

Corrie
Mon, Jul-15-02, 11:07
F~$%!!!













I'll have to hide in the basement away from my husband and the kids where it is cool!!!

sydneyalex
Mon, Jul-15-02, 11:10
Can I hide there with you?????? :p

Corrie
Mon, Jul-15-02, 11:18
and Summer - I am glad youre back on track - remember don't go to the scales for a couple days yet.....are you drinking tons of water???

I am on my 2nd 24 ounce bottle for the day!!!
Plus I am hungry - what to eat???

Tanyaskees
Mon, Jul-15-02, 11:52
Hey girls, I forgot to tell you, I caved this weekend and took a full dose of paxil. I was soooooooo sick, dizzy, vertigo like crazy. I may have totalk to my Dr. and see if I can get liquid form and decrease my doze 1 mg a day for a week. That is some wierd stuff, very hard to wean yourself off. So Rhonda, if you don't have to take it, don't. But it does work wonders if you really need it.

sydneyalex
Mon, Jul-15-02, 11:55
Tanya - too late, I started taking it Friday...I have felt pretty good...I think I might like it...I am on 20 mg per day.

Corrie
Mon, Jul-15-02, 11:58
Oh yikes -
that crap is so scary.....................

Tanyaskees
Mon, Jul-15-02, 12:01
Thats what I am on, 20mg. It does help a lot, it is just hell stopping, as I found out. My dr. thinks I can stay on it indefinitly, as long as I need it. And since I have anxiety disorder, not depression, I may have to take it forever. I just wanted to try, but not sure if it worth it.

Corrie
Mon, Jul-15-02, 12:06
I don't think the sides efects are worth it...
And my hope is that like me, once you lose and get your blood sugar levels and insulin under control you won't need it at all....

Tanyaskees
Mon, Jul-15-02, 12:20
Corrie, I don't have any side effects being on paxil, it is getting off thats a bitch.... :(. My blood sugar is fine, but like I said, I don't have depression problem, I am a happy go lucky person all the time, until I have an anxiety attack, and then it's bad. I just freak. And usually I have a reason to freak, but take normal person freaking and multiply it by 100, thats me. Not fun. Paxil has been a wonder drug for that, I am a totally different person. Well, I do have one side effect, not interested in sex at all, poor hubby. Thats is the main reason I tried to stop. But when he saw how sick I was, he said not to worry about it. He can be sweet sometimes :).

Corrie
Mon, Jul-15-02, 12:24
I would definately call that an undesireable side effect - can't you get a Rx for xanex or something? You have a panic attack - you take one - you're fine in 10 minutes and you may even feel like a roll in ze hay!

Tanyaskees
Mon, Jul-15-02, 12:30
Xanes does'ndo anything for me. It only stops the attack if I know one is coming on, most of the time I don't and then it is too late. I tried xanex, not for me :).

Corrie
Mon, Jul-15-02, 12:31
and valium???

Tanyaskees
Mon, Jul-15-02, 12:52
Now that's an idea, havent thoght of valium. I'll just have talk to my Dr.

Corrie
Mon, Jul-15-02, 12:54
There are just so many other options out there -

I have a definate problem with the pharmacutical companies trying to shove their pills down our throats...........

Tanyaskees
Mon, Jul-15-02, 13:05
I see your point, but no one is shoving anything down my throat. I asked for paxil, and it was my choise to take it. Now I am paying the price by not being able to get off.

Corrie
Mon, Jul-15-02, 13:14
That's not what I meant.
They push it on the Dr's to get them to prescribe it - they push it on you on TV.....they make you think you need it.
JUST LIKE ALL THAT HRT CRAP THEY HAVE FOUND WILL NOW KILL YOU...
see what I mean?

moniquej8
Mon, Jul-15-02, 13:23
Rhonda,
Congratulations on your loss! :cheer:
Sorry about friday. Hang in there, it seems as if guys like to use the kids to get what they want. I was in that same situation once before, and I know how nerve racking it is. He has to prove you unfit to even have a Judge entertain the thought of changing custody, and we all know that is not going to happen.
Monique

summer10
Mon, Jul-15-02, 13:25
I just got back from lunch.

Corrie,
I am drinking my water, so far about 48 oz. I need to drink more, I'm usually further along by this time.

I don't take any meds, but I have heard that Paxil helps to reduce anxiety.

Summer

Tanyaskees
Mon, Jul-15-02, 13:45
It does help, actually it is miracle drug for anxiety. I am not sure anymore if I want to do without.

sydneyalex
Mon, Jul-15-02, 14:09
Thanks MOnique----

Tanya - I like the Paxil so far....I feel much better..my frame of mind and outlook on life are much better.

Rhonda

Tanyaskees
Mon, Jul-15-02, 14:51
I am glad for Rhonda, it helps a lot. I just hate to be dependent on it :(

Corrie
Mon, Jul-15-02, 17:36
It scares me to be dependant on any kind of medication!
Good night all - see ya tomorrow....

summer10
Mon, Jul-15-02, 19:11
I know you've all gone home, but I found this Dr. Phil quiz on another thread - maybe you all want to take it in the morning - here is the link:

http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50769

Hopefully if you cut and paste it, it will work - I don't know how to link it so that you can just click on it.

I got a 41 - my boyfriend got a 43. Try it and see what you get, it's pretty quick.

Summer

summer10
Mon, Jul-15-02, 19:12
Oh, I guess the linking works by itself - I didn't have to know how to do it - who knew!!! :confused:

Summer

sydneyalex
Tue, Jul-16-02, 07:41
Good Morning Everyone, :wave:

I sure am tired this morning.....
Tanya - did you take your Paxil in the morning? I sure could go to sleep.....

Hope everyone is doing well and ready to face the day!!!!!!

summer10
Tue, Jul-16-02, 08:08
Hi Rhonda,

How are you doing? I'm OK - glad that we are getting some relief from the humidity today.

Summer

sydneyalex
Tue, Jul-16-02, 08:12
Hi Summer - I myself will be glad to see fall come!!!!! Wont you...its been so so hot.....I dont like this time of year...so hows the dieting going?

Rhonda

summer10
Tue, Jul-16-02, 08:20
I like the summer, I just don't care for the humidity.

The diets going OK. After my cheats last week I have been 100% LCing since Friday - but I am still not in ketosis - not sure why. It probably doesn't matter since my loss was never better when I was in ketosis anyway. I am waiting until the weekend to weigh so that hopefully I won't have a gain.

How's it going for you?

Summer

Tanyaskees
Tue, Jul-16-02, 08:33
Morning girls :wave:
How is everyone today. I am good. Rhonda, I did take my paxil, I feel sooooo much better.

I have a gain again this morning, I hope it is the exercise and mussle weight. How long does it take to start loosong again after one starts to work out. I feel really good, just love jazzersice. I think I'll post the above question to the general exercise forum.

summer10
Tue, Jul-16-02, 08:42
Good Morning Tanya, sorry about your gain - I'm sure it's probably just muscle. Do you weigh every day?

Did you guys try the quiz I posted last night?

Summer

sydneyalex
Tue, Jul-16-02, 08:45
Tanya - What time of day do you take your paxil...does it make you tired?

I am not weighing for a few days....about that time of month.

Rhonda

Tanyaskees
Tue, Jul-16-02, 08:49
Phonda, I take it about 8pm. Try taking it at night, it worked better for me when I started.

Summer, I did take the test, I got a 40.

summer10
Tue, Jul-16-02, 08:58
I emailed the test to all of my employees and they all got in the 40s too - that must be the average score.

Summer

sydneyalex
Tue, Jul-16-02, 09:13
Thanks Tanya - I will try taking it in the evening...maybe thats why I am so tired.

I gotta go take that test.

Rhonda

Corrie
Tue, Jul-16-02, 09:26
45 for me!
Summer - don't worry about being in ketodis yet - remember your body will store all carbs in your muscles and liver and then when they are full carbs will be stored as fat - so it could take 3 to 5 days of being really strict to get back into ketosis - give it some time. Plus another thing is that alcohol (except beer) contains no carbs (unless its mixed with a sugared mixer) Your body will burn the alcohol for fuel first, then the carbs, then convert back to fat burning - this could take a week!!!

Tanya - if you have been exercising more - it's just water. When you overextend say like your finger - i mean like sprain it - it swells right?? Its the same with muscle. When you exert a muscle you actually tear it. It then swells (adds water) to begin the rebuild process, It takes a few days to heal - that's what the burning hurt is a day or two after exercise. It takes about 6 weeks to replace muscle with fat so it's best to just keep that process ongoing at all times.

Oh - and I am still crabby. REALLY CRABBY.

Hi Rhonda - take your paxil at night.

summer10
Tue, Jul-16-02, 09:31
Corrie,

Thanks for all the feedback, you are a wealth of information!!!

I'm sorry you're still feeling bad. Is the heat any better? Once you get your TOM you will feel better.

Summer

Corrie
Tue, Jul-16-02, 09:39
The heat is a little better today - only supposed to be up to 94 - much cooler when compared to last saturdays 107.5.groan.

But it sucks when it is 90 degress at 8am.

hope you all feel bett than I do today!
RHONDA ----I have something to tell you!!! It's about the child support thing - I have to make a phone call - b right back!

sydneyalex
Tue, Jul-16-02, 09:40
I guess I am the passive one - I scored 38....

Corrie - I usually am crabby too right now...but I think that the paxil is helping me...suppose to start tomorrow..and I feel pretty good...Not going to weigh tho.

Rhonda

Tanyaskees
Tue, Jul-16-02, 09:42
Hey there CRABBY...... :wave:
Thanks for the info. I am lost about the 6 weeks, can you explaine please. Thanks :).

Corrie
Tue, Jul-16-02, 09:59
You can tear down and make your muscles stronger in about 72 hours or so - but it takes 6 weeks to build a brand new muscle - to gain muscle mass.... to increase it's size so to speak......does that make more sense?
Thats why it doesn't do any good to weight train every day because - 1) your muscles get used to it and won't get any stronger and 2) you need a rest day so your can repair the muscle damage from exercise.

sydneyalex
Tue, Jul-16-02, 10:02
Corrie,

What did you find out about child support?

Tanyaskees
Tue, Jul-16-02, 10:06
It does make sense, but is that why I am gainning? Or water?

Corrie
Tue, Jul-16-02, 10:19
Tanya - What I tried to explain - but didn't make myself clear is that when you tear a muscle down (as when it is sore and swells) it retains water to help rebuild the muscle mass - so it is water weight being retained in your muscles. Drink more water - it will let go as soon as the muscle heals.

Rhonda - I just got a call from ORS (thats Office of Recovery Services here) They handle child support payments and collections. We were getting very close to locating the dead beat dad that I am getting no child support from. Thru a fluke of fate - I happened to be able to locate his exact position at 9:00 PM this evening. I notified ORS and I will be there watching as he is arrested and jailed for non payment of support....I LOVE IT!!!

sydneyalex
Tue, Jul-16-02, 10:23
Corrie,

Thats great...what goes around comes around dont it....bastard needs to be put there and kept until he pays you all the money he was ordered to pay.....MEN....good for you...Let me know when they arrest him.... :cool: :devil:

Tanyaskees
Tue, Jul-16-02, 10:31
Thanks Corrie :).

Corrie
Tue, Jul-16-02, 12:43
anytime

Tanyaskees
Tue, Jul-16-02, 13:54
Ya'll gotta hear this.

Ok, there is this guy that's a manager at GNC I go to get all my LC stuff. I have been going there for almost a year. I thought he was kind of flirty, but no big deal. Well, I asked him to order some KETO stuff for me. Friday I called him at the store to see if my order came in. He said it was not there, but if I gave him my number he would call me when it came in. No prob, gave him my cell phone number and he said 'Now that I have your number, you would not be interested in dinner, would you?' Ok, so I haven't been asked out in 13 years, married and all. I was so shocked, I said something stupid like 'Hubby would not appritiate it, unless you want to take both of us to dinner'.
Can ya'll believe I said that? Wow, what a blubbering fool. Weird :blush:

Corrie
Tue, Jul-16-02, 13:57
Thats great!!!!
Funny when it happens isn't it?

We get so used to not thinking we're attractive that when somebody notices we are mystified!!!
I am off to lunch - see you in an hour.

Tanyaskees
Tue, Jul-16-02, 14:02
It does feel strange. I went to get my order today and made my friend go with me. I didn't feel comfortable going by meself. I'll get over it.

summer10
Tue, Jul-16-02, 14:13
Tanya,

Tell your husband, it will make him appreciate you more.

So now will you feel uncomfortable going in there to get your stuff?

Summer

summer10
Tue, Jul-16-02, 14:14
Oh, you answered my question before I got to post it - someone came over in the middle of me typing and I got distracted.

Summer

Tanyaskees
Tue, Jul-16-02, 14:20
Yep, uncomfortable, but I'll get over it. I'll go on weekends when he is off. It is kind of stupid, he just probably didn't notice my wedding rings.

summer10
Tue, Jul-16-02, 14:24
It's still nice to be noticed.

Summer

Tanyaskees
Tue, Jul-16-02, 14:28
I guess so, I just don't remember......LOL.
Where is Rhonda? Haven't heard from her for a while.

summer10
Tue, Jul-16-02, 14:32
Doesn't Rhonda usually go home by now?

Tanyaskees
Tue, Jul-16-02, 14:35
Not till 3, unless she left early. I am ready to get outta here myself :).

summer10
Tue, Jul-16-02, 14:44
What time do you leave Tanya?
I don't leave until 4:30 - 45 more minutes - but today flew by!

Summer

Corrie
Tue, Jul-16-02, 15:00
Nuts to both of you - it's only 2:00 here.....

summer10
Tue, Jul-16-02, 15:13
Corrie,
But you've been there less time too. Have a good night.

Summer

Corrie
Tue, Jul-16-02, 15:19
you've been there less time.....

yeah sure right and I get to spend all afternoon alone.
I need to find a buddy in this time zone (just kidding)..... :wave:
have a good night.

Tanyaskees
Tue, Jul-16-02, 15:24
I am still here, but only for about 20 mins or so. Got to go jazzercise tonight, can't believe it, I actually found an exercise I am looking forward to.

Corrie
Tue, Jul-16-02, 15:33
Well have a good night at jazzercize and have fun - talk with you tomorrow!

Tanyaskees
Tue, Jul-16-02, 15:37
Bye girl, see ya :wave:

sydneyalex
Wed, Jul-17-02, 07:24
:wave: Morning Everyone....

I had the chance to sneak out early yesterday and I took the opportunity...sorry I didnt get to say goodbye......

My eating habits were very bad yesterday.....this PMS is killing me...cravings!!!!!!

Tanya - you go girl....is this guy cute? I know that made you feel really good about yourself.

So how is Summer and Corrie doing this morning??????

Rhonda

summer10
Wed, Jul-17-02, 08:15
Hi Rhonda,

Good for you, getting out early.
What are you eating? Did you try having low carb snacks first? What about an Atkins bar - I know some people don't like them, but they help if you're having a craving.

I checked again this morning - STILL not in ketosis. I don't know why. But other than that I am doing fine.

Summer

sydneyalex
Wed, Jul-17-02, 08:20
Hi Summer,

Hate to confess but I just went completely off the diet yesterday...back with it today tho...I hate myself when I do that.

I wouldnt worry about the keto sticks...I dont have alot of faith in those things... Just keep doing what you have been....boy its a never ending battle isnt it!!!!!! :rolleyes:

Rhonda

Tanyaskees
Wed, Jul-17-02, 08:26
Morning :wave:
Did you guys watch dateline last night? One of their correspondents has been on LC for 4 years, and he did little clip on it. It was really good. They also had Dr. Sears on. LC is sure getting a lot of attention in the last few weeks, ever since that NY times article.

Rhonda, dont't beat yourself up about the cheating thing, just get back on today.

summer10
Wed, Jul-17-02, 08:27
Rhonda,

Yes, it certainly is.

I was saying to my boyfriend last night it's going to take more than a year to get to my goal. (That's depressing!) I really don't mind this WOE, but I would like to see some results. I will probably eat like this forever, because I feel so much better, but I also want to see the scale moving downward. Of course he said, in a year you will be thinner than you are now - just worry about each day... You know, he's being supportive, which is nice, but isn't helping me see results as quickly as I want.

I know how you feel, It's really hard not to give into cravings, but having support - like this - helps.

Summer

sydneyalex
Wed, Jul-17-02, 08:36
Summer - your right....I would probably have given up if I didnt have you guys....I feel like you are my my best friends.....crazy huh.

Tanya - Hey Sexy thang.......did you tell your husband about the guy asking you to dinner....wish I had saw the dateline thing.

I know Corrie is going to give me 20 lashs this morning for cheating....she never ever cheats...I want to be more like her...

Rhonda

summer10
Wed, Jul-17-02, 08:41
Hi Tanya,

I didn't see the Dateline story either - I would have liked to. It's nice to know that this WOL is getting some good press - it's so annoying when people act like this isn't healthy.

Rhonda,

I don't think that sounds crazy - I think you guys are great support.

Summer

Tanyaskees
Wed, Jul-17-02, 08:59
Girls, I feel the same way, this forum, specially you guys keep me going.....thanks :).

Hell no, I didn't tell my husband, he'd be over there kicking some ass....LOL. Beside, if he gets flurted with I DON'T want to know ***and the green eyed monster comes out*** LOL.

I think Dr. A is going to be on 48 hours tonight, I will check out the midia watch forum.

Oh, Rhonda, don't worry about Corries 20 lashes, it doesnt hurt as bad from WAY across the country :).

sydneyalex
Wed, Jul-17-02, 09:02
Find out about the 48 hour thing...I would like to see that....

I sure am finding it hard to drink this water today...having to force myself......

Rhonda

summer10
Wed, Jul-17-02, 09:08
Tanya,

I'm interested in the 48 hour show too, if you can find out.

Rhonda,

I am doing well with my water today, up to 48 ozs already.

Summer

Tanyaskees
Wed, Jul-17-02, 09:15
Dr. Atkins on Prime Time
CBS - Channel 2
Date: Wednesday, July 17, 2002
Featuring: Dr. Robert C. Atkins

Description:
On Wednesday, July 17, "48 Hours," CBS's national television news magazine program, will air a profile of Dr. Atkins (previously aired in January, 2002). In addition to highlighting Dr. Atkins' long and impressive career, the piece will include information on the Atkins Nutritional ApproachTM, scientific research supporting its principles, the brand new edition of Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution, The Atkins Center for
Complementary Medicine and Atkins Nutritionals products. In the New York area, "48 Hours" airs at 10:00 p.m. on Channel 2. Check local listings or see www.CBS.com for airing time in your region. The show has an audience of over 10 million nationwide.

summer10
Wed, Jul-17-02, 09:26
Thanks Tanya, I will either watch it or tape it (10:00 is late for me!)

sydneyalex
Wed, Jul-17-02, 09:29
Great Info - thanks Tanya...

Corrie
Wed, Jul-17-02, 09:37
Good morning

Tanyaskees
Wed, Jul-17-02, 09:38
You are very welcome :). I'll watch it if I don't forget.

sydneyalex
Wed, Jul-17-02, 09:45
Good Mornin Corrie - How are you feeling today....I should have started this morning but didnt - did you?

Rhonda

summer10
Wed, Jul-17-02, 09:47
Hi Corrie,

How are you feeling today?

Summer

Tanyaskees
Wed, Jul-17-02, 09:51
Morning miss Corrie :wave:

Corrie
Wed, Jul-17-02, 12:50
Hi - sorry - our service has been off and on for a couple hours.
I feel like crap - hurt really bad - :Puke: :yawn:
Yes I did thanks for asking. yesterday was really bad mental day - today is really bad physical day. Tomorrow should be better.
:bash:

AND ON TOP OF IT ALL....

I have work to do.
I HATE THAT.

Later, :roll:

Corrie
Thu, Jul-18-02, 09:07
Hello - anybody around?? you are all quiet today.....

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-18-02, 09:15
Hey girl, I am here...getting ready for a 9:30 meeting :(. I hate meetings.

Ya'll, I am really excited, my friend Tammy is going on LC today. I am just tickled for her.

Corrie
Thu, Jul-18-02, 09:16
That is really cool!! Bring her on over!

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-18-02, 09:22
I'll try, one step at a time :). It took me a long time to get herto listen.

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-18-02, 09:23
I think what did it for her is me ptinting out the NY times article and making her read it. I can be a very pushy bitch sometimes. :D

sydneyalex
Thu, Jul-18-02, 09:26
Good Morning Girls-

I am tired today....still waiting on rag time...late for some reason...I am hanging in here tho..gotta leave early today, getting a new bed.....

Rhonda

Corrie
Thu, Jul-18-02, 09:35
Taking off the pounds
After losing nearly 50 pounds, Josh Mankiewicz weighs in with what worked for him.

By Josh Mankiewicz
NBC NEWS
July 16— Fad diets come and go. The one thing we know for sure is that if you eat too much and exercize too little, you gain weight. But eat too much of what? Suddenly we’re told by the “New York Times” that even some mainstream scientists (though still a minority) are beginning to ask — is it possible that fat isn’t the enemy afterall? ‘Dateline’ correspondent Josh Mankiewicz is not a scientist, but he has lost weight. And it wasn’t by cutting fat. He’d tells how he did it.

THIS IS DINNER. This is me. This is me having dinner. And for the last four years, this has been me losing weight.
See, for about 25 years I’ve had this love/hate relationship with food. I loved the eating part. I hated the way it made me look.
And I’m on TV, so millions see the way I look. Over the years, I tried just about every diet that came along. Some of them worked, but none of them worked for long.
Since diets were a failure, I swallowed my pride, along with just about anything else I could find, particularly if someone had taken the time to fry it. And I learned the hard way that if you stand next to certain people, you look even worse by comparison.
For about 25 years I’ve had this love/hate relationship with food. I loved the eating part. I hated the way it made me look.

Then I discovered the Atkins Diet. It’s been around for 30 years and it’s pretty simple. This is the way I used to eat: steak, salad, potatoes, bread, a Coke, and dessert. Subtract the bread. Lose the potatoes. Change the Coke to iced-tea, and do without dessert. But you keep the steak and the salad. It’s a high-fat, high protein diet. It’s exactly what we’ve been told not to eat for more than 20 years.
Dietary fat does not make you fat?
“That’s correct,” says Dr. Barry Sears.
That is a very, very difficult message for people in this country to listen to.
“It is,” says Sears.
Dr. Barry Sears is author of “The zone,” similar to the Atkins diet in that both believe the modern American low-fat, high carbohydrate diet — and all the sugar it contains — is responsible for a national epidemic of obesity. And that dietary fat —the fat you consume as part of your daily diet — is nothing to be afraid of.
There is this perception that to really lose weight, it’s got to be like taking castor oil, if not literally then figuratively.
“People think that ‘If I have to lose weight, it has to be a painful experience,’” says Sears. “But what if that wasn’t true? What if it’s a very, very easy experience?”
Fifty years ago, nearly every American ate a lot of animal protein and a lot of fat as part of a daily diet. In the 1970s, that started to change. Low-fat diets were held up as the answer to a lot of America’s problems, and bread, pasta, and grains became our best friends. Fast forward to 2002, and suddenly the rules are changing again.

“You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to walk on the streets of America to see that it’s not worked,” says Sears. “We’re eating the same amount of fat that we did 25 years ago — but far more carbohydrates.”
And are we leaner as a nation?
“No,” says Sears. “We’ve become the fattest people on the face of the earth.”
And according to Sears, here’s why. Fat and protein make you feel full. They also take longer to digest. Carbohydrates like pasta and bread are digested much more quickly and raise the body’s levels of the hormone insulin.
If you have too much insulin, you store fat more easily? “Exactly,” says Sears.
If you have too little insulin?
“Then the nutrients to the cells aren’t being delivered,” says Sears.
And you get incredibly hungry.
“Exactly,” says Sears.
Which encourages you to eat more.
“That’s correct,” says Sears.
Which explains why, for years, my weight went up and down like an elevator. None of the diets I tried did anything to keep my insulin levels stable. The result — I was always hungry. I had no family history of heart disease or diabetes, so I decided to try Atkins.
When I gave up pasta and bread and replaced them with steak, I noticed some changes right away. First of all, I started losing weight quickly — 11 pounds in the first 14 days. I couldn’t believe it. This was what Atkins calls the “induction diet” — less than 40 grams of carbohydrate a day. Just by comparison, the government recommends you eat at least 100 grams.

The other thing I noticed was that I felt great — not just because I’d lost weight, but because I realized I could stay on that diet or something close to it for a very long time. Gradually, I added some carbs like green vegetables and salads, but I kept on losing weight. I lost most of the weight in the first three months, but at the end of a year, I was down 47 pounds.
And my cholesterol is about where it was before the diet. I looked a lot better. I started dating Janet Jackson. OK, that’s not true — but my affair with steak was hot and heavy.
So many of us have lost weight on low-carb, high-protein diets, that a lot of experts are re-evaluating the whole issue of fat in the American diet. The National Institutes of Health has never been able to prove a link between dietary fat and heart disease.
But let’s face it, even though I lost the weight, I was well, worried, because there are also plenty of experts who think that Dr. Atkins is slowly killing me with every forkful of steak.
“I eat high-fat foods on occasion, but I don’t delude myself into thinking that they are good for me,” says San Francisco doctor Dean Ornish.
Ornish is author of a number of books urging all of us to eat a very low-fat, plant-based diet instead of all that steak I’ve been enjoying.

I went on the Atkins diet four years ago. I lost 47 pounds. I don’t smoke, drink, don’t take any drugs. And now I don’t eat sugar, or refined white flour or potatoes or French fries and I don’t even like pork rinds. You telling me I’m living unhealthy?
“It’s great that you’re not eating sugar and white flour,” says Ornish. “And not eating pork rinds — I support that — we are on agreement in that. And I’d love to be able to tell you that sausage and bacon and pork rinds are good for your heart. But they’re not—”
So it was bad for me to lose that weight in that way?
“You can lose weight on phen-phen, on chemotherapy. That doesn’t mean it’s good for you,” says Ornish.
Ornish and many other doctors and nutritionists say a high-protein, high-fat diet isn’t just bad for your heart. It can also increase your risk of getting some types of cancer and that a low-fat diet carries many health benefits. Ornish admits I’m eating healthier now than I used to, but says I’d do even better on his low-fat regimen.
I looked at Ornish’s book. “Mexican Summer Stew.” Vegetables baked in parchment, bean burgers, tofu stew with sweet potatoes — I can’t live on that!
“Well sure you can,” says Ornish.
Oh, I can live on it — I mean, you put me on an island with just that, I’ll live on it — but I’ll be miserable.
“No you won’t,” says Ornish. “If you worked with me, we’d find the right balance so that you could have complex carbs, some animal protein, we’d talk about meditation and other ways of managing stress.”
Meditation?
“Meditation,” says Ornish. Yoga.”

OK, it’s not that meditation, bean burgers and yoga don’t sound good, because they really, really do. I could probably do that diet — for about three days. Then the cops would arrest me for breaking into a Sizzler.
You see, if steak is a religion, this is my church. If it’s an addiction, these are my enablers. You don’t have to love steak to worship at the altar of Dr. Atkins. It works just as well with fish or chicken.
For me, the Atkins approach of filling up on protein and staying away from carbs opened a door to another way of eating — a way I could live with. And it allowed me to cut out of my diet all those harmful things.
Today I work out three or four times a week. I didn’t do it at all during that first year on Atkins. I’ve kept the weight off. Stone Phillips clearly sees me as a threat and is trying to get me to eat more desserts. OK, that’s not true either, but I am eating more complex carbohydrates these days. My diet now is much closer to the “Zone” than to Atkins.
The truth is, I thought more than once about sharing some embarrassing photos with you. I decided to do it because this diet finally changed that relationship I had with food.
And here’s the headline. I did it without suffering. I hung onto the one food that made me think I was having a real meal, so I didn’t feel like I was on a diet. So Dr. Atkins, wherever you are, thanks, and — well done!

sydneyalex
Thu, Jul-18-02, 09:54
Corrie - That is a great article....I watched 48 hours last nite but there was nothing about Dr Atkins on there...on previews they said something about it being on Friday....Are the broadcasts different in different parts of the country?

Very encourging - I needed that,

Thanks,
Rhonda :daze:

summer10
Thu, Jul-18-02, 09:58
How are you guys doing today?

I just got to work - had a dentist appt this morning.

Great article. That's how I feel - like I CAN do this forever. It's so much easier to "diet" when you're not hungry all the time.

I was telling the hygenist about Atkins this morning - she was really interested in how I lost 18 pounds!

Summer

Corrie
Thu, Jul-18-02, 10:03
It was on dateline!!!

sydneyalex
Thu, Jul-18-02, 10:05
Well damit I missed it.... :mad:

Corrie
Thu, Jul-18-02, 10:14
Well as predicted I feel much more like my old self today - thank GOD!

I felt much skinnier this morning....but no weight loss - will try again in a day or two....sigh.

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-18-02, 10:33
I am baaack, short meeting, thank goodness. I watched that peice youposted on dateline. It was really good.

No Dr. A on 48 hours last night, I was not a happy camper :(.

Corrie
Thu, Jul-18-02, 10:42
I didn't even look - I forgot...

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-18-02, 10:48
They are pretty good about posting on midia watch forum about the stuff coming up and articles published. I pop in once in a while just to see what is going on.

Corrie
Thu, Jul-18-02, 10:50
I do too I posted that article there for all to see!

sydneyalex
Thu, Jul-18-02, 10:50
Well all of you can hate me now because I am about to leave.... :p

Gotta lot of work to do tho....Tanya - does Paxil make you tired and do you take it in the morning? I am so tired lately..........

Talk to all you tomorrow!!!!!!! :wave:

Rhonda

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-18-02, 11:02
Rhonda, I take it at night, no it does not make me tired. Start taking it at night, you'll feel better.

Corrie
Thu, Jul-18-02, 11:11
big sigh

summer10
Thu, Jul-18-02, 12:20
Tanya and Corrie,

What is media watch? I would like to check it out.

Summer

Corrie
Thu, Jul-18-02, 12:54
It's in the forums - they post articles and tv show times etc...

summer10
Thu, Jul-18-02, 13:44
Thanks Corrie,

I see it now - I guess I'm not very observant - I never noticed it before.

Summer

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-18-02, 13:48
It's an interesting forum, Ilove to read the new stuff in there.

summer10
Thu, Jul-18-02, 13:53
I'm going to look at it tonight - I really can't do that at work - since people keep coming over here to ask me questions - I swear this humidity is bringing out the worst in people!

Summer

Corrie
Thu, Jul-18-02, 14:56
It is usually very informative.
I just made the MOCK DAHISH for lunch - hmmmm. It was.............................different.

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-18-02, 15:14
Interesting, isn't it? At first I thought I liked, then second time I made it.....not sure. I guess I have to be in the mood for something like that. I put sliced almonds in it, that was pretty good.

Corrie
Thu, Jul-18-02, 15:24
Yep - I think I could get the same result with a spoonful of cream cheese on it's own - I am not sure about the texture..........and I burnt my tounge...

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-18-02, 16:56
Ouch, sounds painful.....LOL

Corrie
Thu, Jul-18-02, 17:06
hey - wait a minute - you're home aren't you???
fine

Tanyaskees
Thu, Jul-18-02, 19:53
Yep, I am home, and was home when wrote last. But at least I checked in on you :).

summer10
Fri, Jul-19-02, 06:55
Good Morning, how is everyone doing today?

I am happy today - I weighed in and I didn't have a gain - which I was expecting since I did some cheating last week... No loss either, but I am happy that I didn't gain!

Summer

sydneyalex
Fri, Jul-19-02, 07:17
Good Morning Summer - I am glad you didnt gain, I have cheated too and have to get my behind back on track.

Hi Tanya and Corrie - as for the mock danish....I didnt like the texture...it was just strange --- Yuck,...not for me.

ITS Friday!!!!!!

Rhonda

Kaki
Fri, Jul-19-02, 07:31
Corrie,
You are doing super :D !! Don't worry about those people who don't get it. Bet you anything when they see how you are slimming down they will come running to ask you how to do it for themselves!!

I just started a week and a 1/2 ago and I am amazed how the weight is coming off and how good I feel now. I am down 10 pounds. The first 4 days were kind of rough because I felt yucky but I stuck with it. This plan is so different then every diet I have ever tried and I had to unlearn a lot of habits like counting fat. I can give up bread and pasta for real cheese, butter, sour cream, cream cheese, salad dressing etc.!!!

Keep it up Corrie, we are all here for you!

Karin

summer10
Fri, Jul-19-02, 08:12
I made the mock danish last night too - I thought it was ok - I only put 1 package of splenda in it, it wasn't very sweet - if I make it again, I will probably try 2 packages.

Rhonda,
Did you get your new bed?

Summer

Tanyaskees
Fri, Jul-19-02, 09:04
Good morning girls :wave:

TGIF :Party: :Party: :Party:

sydneyalex
Fri, Jul-19-02, 09:12
Yes I did get the bed,....it is soooo nice, very comfortable and pretty too......

I sure dont want to be here....I didnt take the Paxil this morning and I am still tired as hell. Was up late tho.

Rhonda :rolleyes:

Tanyaskees
Fri, Jul-19-02, 09:14
Wake up Rhonda !!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's FRIDAY !!!!!!!!

sydneyalex
Fri, Jul-19-02, 09:16
:o

I am trying.......I think I am about to start my period, my back is hurting...that always makes me tired too......I am falling apart....

HELP!!!! :yawn:

summer10
Fri, Jul-19-02, 09:27
Good morning Tanya, I am glad it's Friday too.

Do you guys have any exciting plans for the weekend?

Summer

sydneyalex
Fri, Jul-19-02, 09:30
NOt me...try to get my house in order...I am going to do some condo cleaning tomorrow to help me get my daughers new school clothes.....She starts First grade on August 8th...I dont know why they are making them start so early.....

Cleaning condos I make about $60.00 - $70.00 for 3.5 or 4 hours work. So its worth it........................

Corrie
Fri, Jul-19-02, 09:33
Good morning all.

Karen - thanks for the encouragement.
Stop by anytime. I'm glad you feel great!!! This WOL really works.

As for me - I fear I have stalled - no loss for 2 weeks and you know that never happens to me....but it's still TOM for me - but oh well whatever.

It has been a hell of a week at home - nothing but stress and fighting within the family and then I find out my sister is moving to Oregon - my only friend here.....I am very upset............Haven't been able to sleep all week. can't really eat either....

Tanya - thanks for stopping by to check on me last night!!

sydneyalex
Fri, Jul-19-02, 09:43
I'm sorry Corrie - everything will be ok, you will see. Also I bet by Monday you will be dropped a pound or two.

Hang in there - at least your TOM is about over, my has yet to get here...wonder why I am so late?

Rhonda

Corrie
Fri, Jul-19-02, 09:47
Probably the same reason I was a couple days early - STRESS!!!! :confused: :wave:

IT REALLY HAS BEEN A HELL OF A WEEK and I am trying not to cry as I sit here - cannot work....can't concentrate.
Kids fighting with me and each other - getting F's in summer school - husband fighting with kids - husband fighting with me - sister leaving - no where for me to hide and no one to talk to.....

:cry:

She really is my only friend...

summer10
Fri, Jul-19-02, 10:30
Corrie,

I am so sorry you are feeling bad. Why is your sister moving? She can't be your only friend, because we are here for you too. (I know it's not the same.)

Summer

Corrie
Fri, Jul-19-02, 10:39
But she is really the only friend I have - most women don't like me - They see me as some sort of a threat. I don't know why - possibly because I am a strong person and do not take crap from anybody and they are wimps who let life push them around. Every friend I have ever had has tried to sleep with who ever I was seeing before I got married - including my husband after we were married - stabbing me in the back one way or another - just petty jealous bullshit. I got tired of it and eliminated them years ago ...... sounds vain I know but it's true - My husband and I got rid of all the "freaks" who were trying to suck the life out of us.......
My sister is moving because that fat OAF she married got transferred to Oregon. His idea of doing Atkins is eating potatoes for breakfast - LC the rest of the day and a bottle of whiskey for dinner. I hate him.

Tanyaskees
Fri, Jul-19-02, 10:45
Hi Corrie :there:, I hope you get to feeling better real soon. Stress can stall you just as fast as anything else. I am definitly stalled, and with a gain at that. But, I am not changing my stats, I'll just have to catch up with them.

Corrie
Fri, Jul-19-02, 10:48
ME EITHER. I HAVE BEEN UP AND DOWN 2-3 POUNDS ALL WEEK AND I REFUSE TO CHANGE MY STATS - I NEVER CHANGE THEM DURING TOM ANYWAY....

Tanyaskees
Fri, Jul-19-02, 10:52
Here is a big hug for you Corrie

(((((((((((((CORRIE)))))))))))))))))))

summer10
Fri, Jul-19-02, 10:52
Corrie,

That is too bad. I know how it is too not care for your sister's husband - you can't imagine what she sees in him and your stuck with him in your family - I've been there. I don't know why otherwise intelligent woman seem to settle for men who aren't worth it.

We are here for you.

Don't worry about your stall - it's probably because you're not eating enough.

Summer

Tanyaskees
Fri, Jul-19-02, 10:54
My sister finally kicked the cheating sleezeball SOB out. I hate his guts.

sydneyalex
Fri, Jul-19-02, 10:55
Corrie - I know the feeling about so-called "friends" , have been there and done that too. Women are worse than men when it comes to trying to sleep with someone you care about... I understand where your coming from.

We are here - I know its not the same but nonetheless we're here and I think I speak for all of us....we think the world of you! :bhug:

Rhonda

Corrie
Fri, Jul-19-02, 10:56
Thanks you guys.
Now you've made me cry again.

And he really is awful - he's one of thoe burperfarterbuttscratchers...and I am not kidding - and NO ...I have NO F'in CLUE WHAT SHE SEE IN HIM. And to top it all off - He is REALLY hard on the eyes. A DEFINATE brown bagger.
sniff

:tears:

sydneyalex
Fri, Jul-19-02, 11:01
Maybe he has a huge schlong.......LOL.... ;)

Just trying to cheer you up!!!!!
Rhonda

summer10
Fri, Jul-19-02, 11:01
I agree with you Rhonda. I am really into woman's rights and it always suprises me how awful women can be to each other. Women are the majority in this country but they never seem to support each other. It drives me crazy - you don't want me to get up on my soapbox!!!

Corrie,

You have been such a big help to us - supporting us and providing so much information to help us out. We will be here for you. You've been a really good friend. I can tell by your posts how compassionate you are.

Summer

Corrie
Fri, Jul-19-02, 11:14
:blush: :tears: :tears: :Puke: :tears: :tears: :blush:
Thank you Summer.
Thank you Tanya.
Thank you Rhonda.
I wish we lived on the same block.

sydneyalex
Fri, Jul-19-02, 11:22
I agree with that Corrie - I dont really have any true friends either.....maybe one day we can all meet each other...that would be something to look forward to....Its a shame we are so far apart. :(

Hang in there :heart:
Rhonda

Tanyaskees
Fri, Jul-19-02, 11:27
I guess I have been really lucky. I have a lot of wonderful women friends that I can count on anytime and trust with my life.

summer10
Fri, Jul-19-02, 11:45
Maybe some day when we are all thin we will meet. Of course, you'll all have to wait until I catch up!

Summer

Corrie
Fri, Jul-19-02, 12:26
Wouldn't it be fun to get together???
Summer you will be right there with us before you know it.
Tanya - you are lucky to have good friends - they are really rare.
Rhonda - I think we are twin lost souls!!! hahahahah.

summer10
Fri, Jul-19-02, 14:36
Have a good weekend everyone.

Corrie I hope you are feeling better. Try not to stress too much.

Summer

sydneyalex
Fri, Jul-19-02, 14:37
Corrie your probably right.....hope your feeling a little better... I sure do want something sweet.....but I will fight it.....its all this cheating I have been doing....all my fault..

Well girls hope you all have a great weekend..you have all been quiet this afternoon. Its been a long day!! I am ready to go home. I am going to try really hard not to cheat this weekend..and also use my treadmill.

Talk to ya Monday...... :wave:
Enjoy your weekend.....it will fly by....... :eek:

Rhonda

Tanyaskees
Fri, Jul-19-02, 14:38
You too summer, maybe I'll see you here over the weekend :).

Tanyaskees
Fri, Jul-19-02, 14:40
Bye miss Rhonda, have a good one and NO CHEATING!!!!

sydneyalex
Fri, Jul-19-02, 14:45
Ok.....no cheating....Tanya...dont know what I would do without you guys...I need to get back on line at home so I can check in on the weekends.....

Think I am gonna do that..

Oh Well
Bye!!

Corrie
Fri, Jul-19-02, 14:49
Bye Summer Bye Rhonda-
NO CHEATING.

Tanyaskees
Fri, Jul-19-02, 14:52
Lets make this a cheat free weekend.

summer10
Fri, Jul-19-02, 14:58
Tanya,

I am sure I'll be online - my boyfriend cannot believe how long I spend reading these boards. I keep telling him, it's helping me get to my goal.

Summer

Tanyaskees
Fri, Jul-19-02, 15:03
I know it helps me stay on track. I have 2 friends that just started LC and I tell them if you don't do anything else, you have to check out this site. I love it here, and you guys are terrific.

Corrie
Fri, Jul-19-02, 15:14
It helps me as well - We really need to stick together...

Tanyaskees
Fri, Jul-19-02, 15:19
Yeas, together we CAN and WILL do this.

summer10
Mon, Jul-22-02, 07:36
Good morning, how was everyone's weekend?

No loss for me this weekend. But other than that my weekend was good.

Summer

Tanyaskees
Mon, Jul-22-02, 08:31
Morning :). My weekend was ok too, no loss either. Maybe next weekend. No cheating for me :D.