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1fatmomma
Sun, Aug-04-13, 20:40
I just started LC (Atkins) yesterday. today is my second day. I have been having to run to the bathroom a lot today. Its as though I had taken a fluid pill. I wondered if it was the increase in water that I have been drinking or is it ketosis? I normally do not drink water, period. Just Coffee and Soda. So, I have not had anything but one cup of coffee per day and Water the rest of the day since I began this WOE. Is this normal? I take a Fluid Pill for Hypertension but stopped taking it when I started this because I know that this WOE has the same effect and did not want to deplete my potassium levels too much. Any thoughts?

Nancy LC
Mon, Aug-05-13, 09:16
I'll state the obvious first. If you drink more, you'll pee more.

Yes, ketosis makes you shed all the glycogen you've stored up in muscles, liver and other places. You'll also lose a lot of sodium in the process and you should be very generous replacing it otherwise you will feel awful.

Take a look at the salt thread in my signature.

1fatmomma
Mon, Aug-05-13, 12:13
I'll state the obvious first. If you drink more, you'll pee more.
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:agree: Obviously :lol: I figured that might be the reason for the frequent urination but just wondered about Ketosis as I have seen some say that it happened very early on for them like this and today is Day 3 for me.

Alocin75
Mon, Aug-05-13, 12:19
I started yesterday and noticed the same thing! I love it! Someone told me once that we lose most of our weight from peeing and breathing!! LOL Not sure if I'm in ketosis as I'm not doing strict lowcarb, (had peanut butter yesterday,) but know I must be close. Good luck on your journey and big well done on your loss so far!! :)

JEY100
Mon, Aug-05-13, 12:43
Both prepare yourself for the common pattern of weight loss with LC by reading this popular article: http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=365499&page=1&pp=15
As explained in the second section, of the first 10 pounds lost, 9 may be water...that's a lot of visits to this bathroom.

Nancy LC
Mon, Aug-05-13, 12:48
I forgot to say a whole lot of water is stored with glycogen. My theory is that high-carb eaters become quite puffy with water because of that. I call them: Puffy People. :)

Anyway, as the glycogen is used up, the water is released and gets flushed out of the body... taking salt and other minerals along with it. Sodium depletion, to the point of not feeling good, is why a lot of the carb flu symptoms happen.

Make certain you're supplementing sodium or you'll feel like poo.

loggerhead
Mon, Aug-05-13, 13:09
Oh my Thanks Ladies for this info about salt when in ketosis. I have been feeling achey all over for last 48 hours and will up my salt intake. I have always been a heavy salt user..and had cut back because I thought it would retain fluid...but looks like I will need to up the NaCl back to even above my normal... so this is a welcome fix for me. I love the stuff!
I have been using vegetable juice for potassium.
Thanks again! I am learning so much in these forums..yeah!

1fatmomma
Mon, Aug-05-13, 13:58
:thup: Thanks for the tips! I'll be sure to read through the info you shared. I have been doing good with using salt and drinking plenty of water too. I have not really noticed any flu like symptoms thus far. Though I did wake up in the middle of the night last night with my leg aching. For the first 24 hours I had a very slight headache but that has since gone away. I could live with that, I suffer from Migraines and take meds for them so believe me that headache was nothing compared to the usual ones. Hoping this WOE will help to alleviate the Headaches as well. :wave:

Nancy LC
Mon, Aug-05-13, 14:20
If you get sodium depleted then you'll also lose other minerals like magnesium, potassium and calcium. So you might need to supplement those too, along with the salt, if you've let yourself get too washed out. :)

Muscle cramps are usually an indication of sodium + some other electrolyte depletion (mag. or potassium, most likely).

1fatmomma
Mon, Aug-05-13, 14:29
If you get sodium depleted then you'll also lose other minerals like magnesium, potassium and calcium. So you might need to supplement those too, along with the salt, if you've let yourself get too washed out. :)

Muscle cramps are usually an indication of sodium + some other electrolyte depletion (mag. or potassium, most likely).
So would a Multi-Vitamin be the key or seperate individual supplements? I am anemic and have to take Iron Supplements already. Do not want to overload myself with too much iron. :)

Molly B
Mon, Aug-05-13, 15:09
Okay, someone please tell me why on the first and second day of my diet, I pee'd a lot. I had to get up 4 or 5 times during the night (aggravating!) and now, on Day 4 and today, Day 5, I'm not peeing more than I normally would, even though I am making a good attempt to drink nothing but water, with the exception of an espresso, but I am drinking tall glasses of water. Before, I'd drink sweetened tea all day, an occassional Coke, maybe 2 sugary cappuccinos.

Now, water...... espresso with a little heavy cream....... and only one glass of sf kool aid that I had yesterday.

Is there an explanation?

1fatmomma
Mon, Aug-05-13, 15:55
Okay, someone please tell me why on the first and second day of my diet, I pee'd a lot. I had to get up 4 or 5 times during the night (aggravating!) and now, on Day 4 and today, Day 5, I'm not peeing more than I normally would, even though I am making a good attempt to drink nothing but water, with the exception of an espresso, but I am drinking tall glasses of water. Before, I'd drink sweetened tea all day, an occassional Coke, maybe 2 sugary cappuccinos.

Now, water...... espresso with a little heavy cream....... and only one glass of sf kool aid that I had yesterday.

Is there an explanation?
Hmm,I have no clue. All I drink is one cup of Black Coffee for Breakfast and nothing but straight water throughout the day. This is day 3 for me. I did not notice the frequent urination on day one, it started yesterday and has continued throughout the day today. Maybe someone else can chime in for you. :q:

Nancy LC
Mon, Aug-05-13, 16:09
So would a Multi-Vitamin be the key or seperate individual supplements? I am anemic and have to take Iron Supplements already. Do not want to overload myself with too much iron. :)
Potassium = Nu-Salt (cheap and higher potency than pills)
Magnesium, any sort of chelated magnesium is good. Avoid magnesium oxide, magnesium citrate. They're used for constipation.

Don't rely on multivitamins for them.

Also, take magnesium with a meal, it can upset your tummy.

1fatmomma
Mon, Aug-05-13, 16:17
Potassium = Nu-Salt (cheap and higher potency than pills)
Magnesium, any sort of chelated magnesium is good. Avoid magnesium oxide, magnesium citrate. They're used for constipation.

Don't rely on multivitamins for them.

Also, take magnesium with a meal, it can upset your tummy.
So is the Nu-Salt some sort of Salt Substitute? My doctor specifically warned me not to use ANY Salt Substitutes period. I have never heard of that one though.

Nancy LC
Mon, Aug-05-13, 16:19
Oh, if you're on potassium sparing diuretics you should check with your doctor before supplementing potassium. Yes, Nu-Salt is a salt-substitute with lots of potassium.

1fatmomma
Mon, Aug-05-13, 18:57
Oh, if you're on potassium sparing diuretics you should check with your doctor before supplementing potassium. Yes, Nu-Salt is a salt-substitute with lots of potassium.
Thanks! I kinda thought so given the name of it, yeah I have to stay away from those. But I do add salt to my food which I have been told not too, but I do so anyhow. I cannot tolerate bland food :lol:

fitfuture
Tue, Aug-06-13, 00:06
It does get confusing. I take meds for HBP and my doc says to use no salt. So I try not to, but I do use a lot of soy sauce and that is very salty. My BP never changed at any stage with or without salt. Potassium I try to stay away from there is some in my multi but other than that I don't want to add to it.

2thinchix
Tue, Aug-06-13, 12:04
For me the huge amount of water I shed is related to not getting as much salt. Low carb is very, very low salt unless you are consciously trying to add more. Literally, I can lose 5 pounds over night (and pee ever hour) if my salt drops.

Nancy LC
Tue, Aug-06-13, 12:17
It does get confusing. I take meds for HBP and my doc says to use no salt. So I try not to, but I do use a lot of soy sauce and that is very salty. My BP never changed at any stage with or without salt. Potassium I try to stay away from there is some in my multi but other than that I don't want to add to it.
Not surprising. Salt really isn't the cause of high BP in most people. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/opinion/sunday/we-only-think-we-know-the-truth-about-salt.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0)

Only some BP meds are potassium-sparing. Those are the ones you have to be cautious about when supplementing potassium.

1fatmomma
Tue, Aug-06-13, 12:25
For me the huge amount of water I shed is related to not getting as much salt. Low carb is very, very low salt unless you are consciously trying to add more. Literally, I can lose 5 pounds over night (and pee ever hour) if my salt drops.
That is interesting. I do add salt to my food because I cannot stand plain food, period. It has to have some sort of seasoning. :lol:

mike_d
Tue, Aug-06-13, 15:10
Once glycogen stores are depleted the major diuretic effect of low-carb or going into ketosis stops. For me thats an incentive to stay on plan (in ketosis) all the time else I will have a bad night or two constantly going to the loo :(

1fatmomma
Tue, Aug-06-13, 17:11
Once glycogen stores are depleted the major diuretic effect of low-carb or going into ketosis stops. For me thats an incentive to stay on plan (in ketosis) all the time else I will have a bad night or two constantly going to the loo :(
Well mine seems to have regulated, I still go more than I did before but I know it was because I am not used to drinking this much water. But the constant need to go has ceased now. Hopefully it was just a sign I am in Ketosis, since my appetite has disappeared I take it I probably am. ;)