Who is following Protein Power?

[MarshaS]

I would love to see who is actually following the PPLP way of eating. Could you post here, and if you have a journal, I would love to read it.

Looking at PPLP as our families WOE.

Thanks and God Bless!

Marsha, Tim, and Andy


Moving from Atkins

[MarshaS]

Gees! Doesn't anyone follow Protein Power???

[Karen]

Yep! I do. I've been LC for a long time though, so what I originally started with is blurry. The way I eat now has come about through trial and error, always aiming for maximum energy (but sometimes falling short. ;) )

I have a journal, but don't post that much in it anymore. I go through spurts.

HAve you checked out the Protein Power Forum? You will probably get better ideas from newer PP users. If the member keep a journal, a journal icon will be at the bottom of ther post. A click will take you directly to their journal.

Karen

[razzle]

I do PPLP--dilettant approach. (mostly organics, free range meat, but I do have cheese and the occasional dose of splenda)

My journal, however, is mostly about emotional eating issues--some menus at the beginning.

Natrushka is also a PP person--try her journal, as well.

HTH

[raharris]

Hi there --

Sure, I do PP. And keep a journal. I got there through a back door -- after reading a very persuasive article about LC I spent an hour in a bookstore sitting on the ground looking at cookbooks. I am an ex-chef, and I guess it did not occur to me to start with the plan itself; rather, I thought I could start with a set of recipes that would give me the right idea. I ended up with =Low Carb Living= by Fran McCullough, which I strongly recommend.

But then after a while I posted some technical questions and a person on this forum politely suggested it would make sense for me to RTFM (she didn't use the term, I did -- it means "read the =f= manual," and comes to us from the people who provide computer support!). So I picked up PP and have found it =very= useful.

All this might sound as though I am now something of a seasoned expert, but that is not the case. I mean, this all happened just recently ;)! But I have started keeping a very detailed journal; I cite what I eat every day, and I use Fitday.com to calculate the absolute amount of calories, fat, carbs, and protein, as well as the percent of fat, carbs and protein in my diet. Goal -- to consume 10x my body weight in calories each day (2600) and for that diet to comprise about 75% fat, 5% carbs, and 25% protein per day.

I've only been keeping the journal in this much detail for a week, but I certainly plan to keep it up. It is listed under "raharris meditative LC journal." Hope this helps -- RA Harris

[chattvol]

Hello, I've been LCing since March and lost about 2lbs per month. I've just recently decided to tweak my eating plan and the PP is the way I've decided to go. I have the old book and I figured out that I get 14 grams of protein as a minimal each meal. Then I picked up the new book (PPLP) and it says I should get I think 34 each meal. What a difference!! I can't imagine eating that much protein at one meal. I'm also resistant to measuring, and writing things down but looks like I'm headed that way if I intend to speed up my weight loss.

[GinaDee]

I am doing protein power and have been since July 1, 2002. Thus far, I have lost 9 pounds. For the first two weeks, i was sick as a dog and I increased my carbs to between 40-50 for about a month. Now I am backing my ECC down to about 25-35 and I am not having the nausea any longer.

I split my carbs up to about 15 for each meal and then maybe two 5 carb snacks a day.

For example...lettuce, broccoli, cauliflower, cheese 1/4 c. apple 2 oz, ranch dressing, 6 oz grilled chicken. That is maybe about 17 carbs the way i make mine.

Protein shake..protein powder, 1 tbsp peanut butter, dash of splenda. depending on your power that makes about 7-9 of carbs.

I have maybe 6 oz of some kind of meat, 1/4 cup of some kind of pea, pinto bean, black eyed pea...green beans about 3/4 c.

I eat low carb bread...two pieces of low carb bread. 4 oz of turkey, 1 oz bacon, 1 tbsp mayo. dill pickles.

Breakfast..one piece of low carb bread, scrambled egg 2, bacon, sausage or ham.

I dont like to cook so i do a lot of protein shakes and sandwich type things.

I make a pizza that has low carbs but it has a lot of calories from all the cheese. It is delicious tho.

Even in Protein power you can have bread. Some people get very irate if you are not as strict as they are but I have felt no urge to go devour an entire loaf of bread.

Chat vol, I have protein of around 130g per day.

Hope this helps.

gina

[jfo]

MarshaS,

I switched from Akins to PP in April of 2000 after visiting the clinic in Boulder. At that time I was put on the “Purist” life plan because of existing health conditions. Although I have since strayed from the strict “purist life plan”, I still remain close to it’s way of eating. Presently, I rarely consume more than 20 grams of effective carbs a day.

I kept a complete record of my meals and exercise with “LifeForm” until I reached my goal weight. After that I became very lax, it has been over a year since I made an entry.

jfo

[snaggle]

Hi- I hope you are still reading this forum to get this response so many months later, but I am new to this forum. I have been doing Atkins for a while but had a hard time sticking to induction and didn't lose very fast anyway. I am metabolically resistant. But anyway I was frustrated with it and took out my old PP book which I bought a few years ago when I first discovered locarbing. I realized that what I have been doing is actually closest to their diet than anything else. I like it better than atkins because I like wine with dinner and feel that there need to be restrictions on quantities in order for me to lose. Today I finally did the whole computation of lean body mass/protein requirement exercise and realized I am probably eating too much protein for my 5'3" frame. I am hoping that if I cut out a couple of ounces of protein at dinner (the only time of day I was overeating protein) that maybe my weight loss will speed up. I also think that the Eades book seems less like a sales pitch and is more honest about what it takes to lose weight.

[innani]

I've been on PP for about 2 1/2 weeks so far, but having a hard time keeping my carbs below around 40 or so. I really think I need to get more strict. I also just read the atkins website, and am in a quandry about whether I can handle doing 2 weeks of that strict a diet (it DEFINITELY feels like major deprivation there!) - especially since I don't like to eat that much meat, and I don't like jello (yuk).

So I'm thinking I'll give PP another shot, and try to be better about measuring and counting ounzes. The weight loss promised by atkins is huge, so I don't know... but it's also a lifestyle issue... I have a long way to go, and I'm afraid that if I restrict my eating that much I'll just give it up and go back to eating ice cream for dinner...

Inna

[puppyrazzi]

Hi,

My husband and I both are having a great experience following PP.

I have been on PP since June 6, 2002 and he started on June
11. My weight has gone from 269 to 225 and his has gone from
292 to 248.

I no longer say I'm on a diet because people want me to explain
it (ugh). It's a new way of nutrition in my home, one I am
fascinated with after struggling with weight gain for the past 7
years.

Here's what we do.....for starters we drink 3 eight oz glasses of
water a day, we eat 6 times everyday....


7:30 a.m. 2 full eggs and 5 oz (or less) of one: sausage, bacon,
ham centercut, or beef kielbasa
10:30 a.m. 1 to 2 oz of cheese or 25 roasted, salted almonds
or 1/2 a deviled egg
1:00 p.m. 4 oz of beef kielbasa, roast turkey or chicken, or tuna
3:30 p.m. 1 oz to 2 oz of cheese or 25 roasted, salted almonds
6:30 p.m. 4 oz to 8 oz of one: london broil or chuck roast,
centercut pork chop, skinless chicken or turkey,
and
6 oz boiled, salted cabbage or brocolli with butter
or
1 large vidalia onion with 4 oz mushrooms, sauteed
in butter & garlic
or
6 oz snaps
and
1 large green salad with tomatoes, cucumbers, &
green onions
8:00 p.m. 1 large tbsp of creamy Jiff peanut butter
or
25 roasted, salted almonds
or
1 oz of cheese or 1/2 a deviled egg

Other beverages include decaf tea & coffee and lemonade made from that bottle concentrate...no sugar, we use a dash of sweetner. We tried low-carb bars but they gave us both headaches so we chucked them in the trash.

Our basic shopping list is: Fresh meats, poultry, and pork, fresh or frozen veggies (no canned veggies anymore), cheeses & nuts, and occasionally fresh fruit.

My food bill also has dropped down and that's been great!

It has not been hard to follow PP. In the beginning we were constantly looking for "the sweet snack". It's just not possible to continue with the old way so we donated our processed foods to a family member who thought we'd regret it.

Early on we found when we skipped the snacks we were hungrier at meal time. We now make sure we snacks to work. I like almonds because I can put them in a little sandwich bag in my pocket and nibble right at my desk.

It sounds boring but we enjoy it together and we chat and laugh about how much fun it is to have 5 inches of room in our shorts now.

We both have jobs where we walk a bit but we do not exercise for the sake of it. Maybe later....in a couple of months when it's cooler outside.

My first two weeks were hard because I was afraid I would fail or just not like PP. My doctor didn't think I could do it either....but I lost 18 lbs in the first 3 weeks and my blood pressure went from 140/80 to 120/66. From that point on I knew I could do it and by then my wonderful husband was hooked on all the freshly cooked food...it's been a great turning point in our lives.

I even put my 15 year old frail feline on the diet...fresh tuna and chicken for him several times a week...he's enjoying it!

Best wishes for your lifeplan.

Cheryl

[raharris]

<<Other beverages include decaf tea & coffee and lemonade made from that bottle concentrate...no sugar, we use a dash of sweetner.>>

Hey, I thought I'd invented that!!

It's one of my favorite drinks -- I sput a splash of RealLemon in the bottom of a glass, add a packet of Spelnda and slosh it around. Then I fill the rest of the glass with lemon/lime selzer --

an wonderful, refreshing drink w/ NO carbs!

RA Harris

[puppyrazzi]

The "RealLemon" brand and the house brand for Food Lion, in those little lemon-shape containers, is pretty good. What do you use? For some reason the lemon juice in the lemon-shape containers does not need refrigeration like the concentrate in bottles.

The empty green glass bottle is great for storage....I "sweeten" the lemonade and refrigerate a couple of bottles at a time for up to a few days.

It is a super drink! Yum!

Cheryl

[judi]

:)
I'm on pp. I started on the 1st of Aug. I had already lost 3 pounds, so I got a little head start. I've lost 9 pounds in 14 days. Some days I do't eat enough and on some days I've eaten pizza. I have several good receipes but still have trouble with meals on some days. I've always been a BIG bread eater and sometimes it's hard to think of a meal that doesn't center on it. I have the low-carb living cookbook and that helps.

I would love to get the receipe for the low carb pizza. Ane where do you get low carb bread. I use the tortillas from La Tortillia, but tried the garlic this time and didn't like it and I have to eat a case before I order again.

When I'm hungry or need to snack, I fall back on diet coke and almonds, or red grapes and almonds. I don't think I could get through this without the almonds.

I don't journal, at least not yet. I'm using a written one at home and struggle to remember to keep it updated.

One thing I'm sure of, I don't plan to quit. I'm tired of this weight and how terrible I feel. It wouldn't hurt to look good either. :thup:

judi

[Rob]

I switched to PP early on in my LC journey .

I was getting no where with Atkins and on the verge of giving up . That was 4 months ago . Since then , I have lost 20 Lbs .

I eat a total of 60g protein per day and occasionally I eat more from 1 oz nuts as a snack I find that I dont need to snack because I am hardly ever hungry between meals . I divide my food into 3 meals per day and my carbs are divided up as well . I eat 6 Flax muffins per day which I make , but the protein content is not significant . I eat them for their fibre and for their omega 3 oils . I also take 1 tbl flax oil daily as well as freshly ground flax in my morning shake .

I eat 25 to 30 grams carbs daily . I have limited my saturated fat intake because my cholesterol readings went up for the first time ever when I started this WOE. That is why I always remind people to have thier blood work done .

I now try to incorporate more oily fish into my food . I eat mainly fresh green leafy veggies and tiny tomatoes for colour .Occasionally I eat cabbage, or broccoli . I like olives in olive oil . Occasionally avocados too .

For fruit , I love strawberries by the cupfull , 1/2 apple occasionally.

For fats I use extra virgin olive oil frequently for vinnaigrette , for sauteeing , I use vegetable ghee or butter ghee and sometimes peanut oil .

Thats about it . When I find that my weight loss stops , I find that over a 24 hour period , a free for all seems to kick start the body into weight loss again ,and I have done this several times when I hit a stall .

I am just recovering from one such free for all


Rob :wave:

[katrine77]

I started with Atkins in April, 2002 and moved over to PPLP in July. I mainly wanted to be able to eat more salad and occasional fruit and wine. I don't journal here, but my daily food intake looks something like this

2 eggs w/cheese, and 3-4 slices of bacon
OR, 2 slices of baked, flavored tofu w/oz. cheese melted on top
coffee with half n half and splenda

celery w p.b.
or 2-3 slices of lunch meat with swiss cheese

canned tuna or chicken w/mayo, celery, onion
2 c salad w/Neumans dressing

maybe a half apple w/pb
OR a WASA cracker w/cream cheese
OR half a EDGE protein bar
OR, some macadamia nuts (one oz)

One chicken breast, one pork chop , one beef/bison burger OR one serving of fish
w/ ~ 2-3 cups of salad and Neumans Dressing

maybe some fresh raspberries (or frozen)
Occasionally I'll have about 10 pork rinds w/salsa/sourcream
Occasionally, one to four glasses of wine on the weekend

I don't miss bread so I don't hunt down the low carb kind.

So, I don't know, but I guess this looks like a combo of Atkins and PPLP. I haven't done the measurement thing to figure out BF and appropriate protein intake. I think I get anywhere from 20 -40 carbs a day.

I was really strict and recording everything for the first 3 months, now I just eyeball it. I feel great and am losing inches ... slow but sure. I'm not in a big hurry, as long as I keep feeling great.

kat :wave:

[JerseyDon]

I just started Protien Poer two weeks ago. So far its' working for me. I am down 12 pounds. I should also mention that I do a pretty hard workout with weights three days and running intervals the other two days during the week.

Here's my journal link from fitday:

[URL=http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=dseckler]

If some of the days look low in terms of food consumed, that's cause I've not finished filling those days in because I was too busy.

[DebA]

Hi There. I'm pretty much following the Eades' plan. I picked up this book about 4 months ago and it's really changed my life dramatically. I was VERY leery of Dr. Atkins. I got turned onto their stuff by buying Fran McCullough's "The Low Carb Cookbook." I'm really having good success with it. I had an injury a couple of months ago which kept me from going to the gym and I also had quit smoking at the time - I was VERY concerned about weight gain (plus I thought my high carb, low fat/protein diet was making me sick - always hungry and always tired!) during the past few months. So, I gave it a try. Low and behold, I actually lost 5 lbs on their plan! I wasn't even working out, and I was eating more food than I EVER dreamed of - like enough to not be hungry all the time!! However, I was very anxious about how the diet would affect my cholesterol count. Guess what? I just had my blood work done two weeks ago and my triglycerides were the lowest they have EVER been - 52 was the count!!! My family has a long history of high cholesterol and heart illnesses and I just couldn't believe it!!! I'm still trying to drop this last five pounds, but I'm trying to be easy about that. I mean, I have quit smoking. I LOVE not counting calories and being all freaked out when I get hungry in between meals.

Love to hear back!

[raharris]

I got turned onto their stuff by buying Fran McCullough's "The Low Carb Cookbook."

Right -- I did too -- she has some good advice on plans, eating, supplements, and recipes. Eventually I bought the Eades' book too, as it has some more of the specifics, and togther those two books are key to my plan.

I'm glad to hear you triglycerides are down -- mine have been sky high (between 500 and 1500) and I just went in yesterday for my first blood test since I have been low carbing -- my fingers are corssed!

RA Harris, North Jersey Highlands

[DebA]

I'd really like to hear how your results come out too! I was absolutely blown away by the numbers I got back especially in light of all the hoopla the last 20 years about restricting fat intake. All of it was really "a big fat lie"!!!!!

I'll keep my fingers crossed with you!

[judi]

I would be interested in the results of your blood tests. Will look forward to seeing them. I started PP on the last day of Aug. and had my cholesterol tested that morning. My Dr. will be be retesting it in Nov. I'm hooping for good results. I quit taking my Lipitor so that I can compare results.
Judi

[katrine77]

I just had mine done yesterday. Everything is in normal range. Triglycerides are 58 , down from 81 in June!!!. Glucose is 100. This wol/e is amazing!! However, both types of cholesterol are up. LDL was 107 in June and is 116 now. HDL was 48 in June and is 58 now (that's a good thing!). Total cholesterol is 180 up from 171 in June. I know this is within normal range, but I can't help being a little disappointed and wondering why. Any ideas?
good luck to others waiting for results.

kat :wave:

[Rob]

I have just done a quick calculation and your

total cholesterol / HDL is less than 5 ( in fact it is 3.1)

This is a very acceptable ratio and I would not worry inspite of your raised cholesterol . It is the ratios that are important not the numbers .

If you want to boost your HDL and lower your LDL I would recommend No Flush Niacin 500 to 1000mg daily .

In 1 month after 500mg No Flush Niaicn

July to August

total cholesterol 247.8 to 235.8 dropped by 12
LDL 175.2 to 165 dropped by 10.2
HDL 53.2 to 56.36 raised by 3.16
triglycerides 42.5 to 30.88 dropped by 11.62
total/HDL 4.65 to 4.18 dropped by 0.47


I am now on 1000mg No Flush Niacin daily .

I also drastically changed the type of foods that I was eating . I stopped eating 15 eggs per week , bacon every day etc. If you want more information on Niacin I can help you .



Rob

[katrine77]

Thanks, Rob! I sort of thought that, but wasn't sure. I feel better already!
raharris, I eagerly await your test results!
kat :wiggle:

[oceangirl]

...to PP as of today. I just can't believe the amount of protein I'm to have a day- it sounds like a lot but I'm going to test it out and see if I can get some results. On Atkins I lost a little weight and have been stuck- I am losing the inches...but seeing my weight go down would be better.

:wave:

[peterj]

Rob
your diet looks very close to what we are all beginnig to realise is the correct LC mix: med-high fat, but non-saturated, hydrogenated, good fats only. Moderate protein (protein also induces insulin if overdone), Carbs from green vegetables.

Any chance you could post your diet in detail with quantities ? Thanks

[Rob]

Peter ,

as you dont have a journal I'll reply here .

It took me quite a while to twig onto the correct way to eat LC. In the beginning ,I lost a few pounds of fluid on induction but then it all stopped and no matter what I did , and with all the nice aunties here giving me friendly advice , nothing budged .

I dont say that I am an expert , cos each persons experience here is unique . This is just my experience .

I read the Eades book " Protein Power" and I felt that they knew what they were talking about ( being a man of science myself) . There is never such a thing as eat all you want , thats just a marketing ploy I think . It does at the end of the day boil down to calories like it or not . The trick is that with a LC WOL you need much less because you are satisfied much easier . It is true that you should not eat more than 10-12 X body weight in calories or you will never loose weight unless you are an olympic type athlete . Also never to eat less than 1000Cal cos it will all come to an abrupt halt and you will get hungry , a very bad thing for LC. Never to let yourself get hungry cos of the insulin spikes .

Having read alot around the subject I use the following principles

1. I dont eat more protein than is suggested for my level of physical activity and body weight according to PP
2. I dont limit fat intake but I have found that the more fat I eat ,the less I loose
3. I use the good fats namely , polyunsaturated omega 3 ( from flax oil, and ground flax) ,omega 6 ( olive oil, peanut oil ) , monousaturated ( avocado ) ,butter ghee or vegetable ghee for frying , butter in baking and occasionally sunflower oil for deep frying . I restrict the amount of cream and cheese and fatty bacon and eggs that I eat because of the high saturated fats but I do indulge once a week . I am aware of saturated fats cos my cholesterol went up for the first time ever when I started LCing but I was eating abnormally large amounts of saturated fats .
4. I eat carbs 25 to 30 grams daily , seems to go very slow and stop at 30 . I did find that increasing the carbs seemed to speed things up .
5. My supplemts include elements Mg, Ca, K , psyllium husks, multivitamin, No Flush Niacin and Folate

A typical daily menu for me is:

B: high protein shake ( 20 g protein) with ground flax and psyllium husk
2 flax muffins with decaff coffee
S: 2 flax muffins or 1 Oz nuts
L: bunch of green leaf salad with vinaigrette dressing
20 grams protein ( 100g cooked meat / fish /chicken)
D: reapeat salad or sauteed veggies
20 grams protein ( meat/fish/chicken )
S: 2 flax muffins/ fruit eg : strawberries by the cupful
I try to be creative with my meat/chicken/fish dishes, use LC sauces bought or home made ,tinned sardines in oil , tuna ,salmon

On the weekend I enjoy a real fry up , of sausage ,eggs , cheese omlette etc.

Hope that helps



Rob :wave:

[Cossack]

Been on the PP Plan since July 19, 2002..WAS 270...now 238.5..so needless to say..I am a believer!

Bought the book..the old one..I guess..Protein Power and the fancy cassettes and video/booklet thing on e-bay for like $7.00 plus S/H..
so..32 lbs in about 2 months..I should be the Eades Poster Boy..lol..never had any problems, never tok potassium, still in Phase 1 til I get to around 225 or so..then I'll switch to Phase II.

I did a quick read of them all..liked this one the best..

Jim

[PJB]

Rob in London

:wave:
Enjoyed your posting......can I ask you for some clarification ? You mentioned that you eat about 6 flax muffins daily----can I ask which recipe you use...........and also you commented that you "free for all" when you stall.........what exactly do you eat?

[Rob]

Hi PJ,

I have my own recipe for flax muffins and yes I do eat 6 per day . I can give it to you if want . 2.5 grams per yummy yummy muffin .

When I get stuck I do tend to indulge over a 24 hour period (although I find that the longer I do this WOE ,the less I can take in cos I feel physically ill afterwards )

My opinion is that a little feast tends to kick start my body into further weight loss ,also it breaks the monotony of stalling



Rob :wave:

[peterj]

OK Rob, excellent. Let's have the muffin recipe !! Sounds very good.
I am also interested on your approach b/c I think there is a very different LC approach required for those folks who are around the 200+lb mark and those of us in the 160-170 range, ie much closer to acceptable body weight/ composition, but looking to LC to get down to where we want to be and not sacrifice any of that hard-earned muscle

[katrine77]

Rob
I would also be interested in your fax muffin recipe. could post it here please? Also, which protein shake do you use and what do you generally mix in with it. water? fruit?
thanks
kat

[PJB]

:wave: Hello again Rob.

It appears that your muffin recipe holds some interest for others too! Thanks for sharing. I also find your approach to LC helpful.

[DebA]

Hi Rob, You seem to know a bunch about all of this stuff and I'm really enjoying your input and advice. I do have a question for you though. One of the reasons I got so turned onto this way of eating is because of the promise that I wouldn't have to count calories so much. Do you think the old 10X or 12X body weight caloric formula still applies? I'm just real curious because I'm so close to what I want to weigh, but I seem stuck getting this last 5 to 10 lbs off. I try not to complain too much because I have stopped smoking while incorporating this new eating lifestyle, so I just chucked off the stall because of that - I mean, I didn't gain any weight either. But, if there's a way to push down these extra lbs. I'm interested to know how.

Further to my quandary about being stalled, I have added some of Dr. Atkins muffins and Aunt Paula's brownies into my diet. Do you think these might be adding too many carbs? It's not like I'm eating a box a day or anything for sure. Just for snack purposes in between meals.

Any input is greatly appreciated!

Thanks.

[Rob]

Wow talk about sudden popularity!! :D

DebA,

( in my opinion) calories definitely do count but we dont count them formally . At the end of the day if you consume 1500 Cal while doing LC ( very easily done) and you should be taking in 1200 then it will go slow or even stall . So my advice is stick to 10 X body weight , definitely not more . Less if possible but not less than 1000 Cal . This is the minimal for basal metabolic rate ie: essential cellular function . Also , if you go too low you will get bored and hungry and it will all definitely stop . Be careful of carbs when you are eating fat !! the combination is lethal . Carbs = Insulin = fat into cells = adiposity . However I find that a small rise in carbs can stimulate your metabolism. Hope that helps .


PeterJ,

do look at PP , it will tell you how much protein you should eat in order to prevent your body from loosing lean body mass .


PJB and Kat here is my fab muffin recipe :D . Hope you enjoy em as much as I do . They are 2.5 g each


heat oven to 175 deg C
place 12 paper cookie cups into a 12 cookie tray

dry mix:

2 scoops soy protein isolate ( plain or vanilla ) mine is UK made
1/2 cup splenda
1/2 tsp stevia
1/2 cup golden flax seeds . Grind them in grinder
40 grams ground almond ( almond meal)
40 grams unsweetened dessicated coconut
1/2 tsp salt ( use potassium salt for better health )
2 heaped tsp baking powder
4 tbl butter . mix in as if making a crumble pastry mixture



wet mix:

1 cup water
80 ml buttermilk
1 and 1/2 tbl almond essence
1 and 1/2 tbl vanilla


add wet to dry and mix well

spoon into muffin cups ( average 1 and 1/2 spoonfuls per cup)

decorate tops with poppy seeds

place in oven and bake for 35 minutes


remove from oven and from cookie tray and allow to cool preferably overnight , they taste better that way .

You can play with the flavourings , cinnamon , chocolate and with the toppings ,sesame seeds etc.

Sorry I use cookie and muffin interchangeably ( I am in the UK :D )

ENJOY !!

[JerseyDon]

Those sound tasty. Where in the US can you get the Flax?

[Rob]

I'm not in the US but I expect that you can get Flax seeds at any health food store



Rob

[Bonnie]

I have through the PP message board watched this gal reach her goal wt. and become a poster gal for just how successful one can be following the PP WOL....truly amazing and a great testimony to PP... kudos to you Tracy J....B :clap:

http://bbs.eatprotein.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000547

[DebA]

Hey Rob, thanks for the input on my stall. But even more, thanks for the great recipe for the muffins!!!

DebA

[PJB]

Hi Rob! :wave:
Thanks so much for the recipe. I have some in the oven as we speak.

Just one more question if I may.........
when you increase your carb intake slightly to break a stall-----is this by having more veggies, fruit, -- or do you really break out and have some "forbidden " foods. I am stalled with only about 7 lbs. to go to reach goal----so I don't want to overdo and get the scale going in the wrong direction! Thanks again.

[Rob]

PJ the first time I ate something really forbidden like real candy ,I felt awful for days with gastric discomfort and heart burn !!!

So I dont recommend you do that .

I would rather treat myself to a yumm LC cheesecake or eat some extra nuts or fruit etc.


Rob

[DebA]

Hi iRob. Since you're giving out recipes, what's this about LC Cheescake?!!!! How is that possible? I've been making REAL cheesecakes for years (it's like a holiday tradition for me) and I would LOVE to know how to avoid the excess carbs and still make one.

Thanks very much!!

Debra

[Rob]

DebA the way to make LC cheesecake is to use AS in place of sugar and for the crust use a nut meal eg: ground almond and butter . All the other ingredients are the same eg: cream cheese ,eggs ,cream , etc...

There are many recipes for LC cheesecake here and many other places on the web . Just type in "cheesecake " in the search icon at the top of this page




Rob

[raharris]

Hi all --

Before we got on our flax muffin kick we were talking about bloodwork results -- DebA reported how much better her cholesterol and triglycerides were in her last bloods, and I congratulated her, suggesting that my first bloods since going low carb had just been taken, and I promised to tell you all how it had gone --

Cholesterol -- 220, Triglycerides, 270

Now before you say anything -- the cholesterol is about the same as my last bloods, taken back in March. But my triglycerides are about HALF was they were in March! And this is the biggie: I was taking meds for my triglycerides then, and I'm not now!

So with triglyceride meds and on a low fat diet I was running about 600 -- without the meds and on a low carb diet I am half that. You tell me!

RA Harris, North Jersey Highlands

[innani]

Hi,

Anyone do the amounts conversions? I'm having a hard time figuring out what the amounts would be in US measurements...

I also don't like coconut - maybe replacing that with more flax seeds or leaving it out would be ok...?

Inna

[lotwm]

QUOTE] I am 5'3" also... so what age are you.. I am 49 and med frame and trying to figure out what my weight for goal should be... any help would be great.. I just ordered the books.. Did scaresdale for 2 week introduction. now want to go on PP for the rest of the diet to loose and then way of eating for me. Thanks :daze:

[katrine77]

RAHarris

WOW! Your Triglicerides are more than HALF of what they were a few months ago. And without medication! That is MAAAAAAAAVALOUS! Sounds like this plan is working well for you. Keep us posted about your progress. Bet they'll be down another half by the end of the year!
:cheer:
kat

[puppyrazzi]

Rob,

I switched to it from olive oil but I didn't do much more than compare the nutrition info on the bottles.

Do you use canola oil?

Thanks!

[Rob]

for frying I tend

to use sunflower oil or groundnut oil . I dont think we have canola oil in the UK .



Rob

[DebA]

Does anybody happen to know how to convert metric grams into cups and ounces? I could research this, but I'd rather be lazy.

Thanks, Rob, for the input on the cheesecake recipe!!! Now I can do some experimenting with different nut-based crusts and keep the yummy part (the cheesecake sans graham cracker crust)!!

I'm always interested in good recipes, so keep 'em coming!!!

Thanks everybody!

:spin: :)

[CPhilson]

Here's a good conversion tool for US and metric conversions - in both directions. Bookmark it for future use, it's pretty helpful.

http://southernfood.about.com/library/info/blconv.htm

[lotwm]

I buy a bag of the little key wee limes and squeese one of these in a glass with ice and sugar free stuff... and is good Maybe 3 carbs but great refresher and not to sweet...

[camplate]

I started PP Sept 12. I didn't follow the plan exactly, I sort of slid into the first week to clean out my fridge. But since I really started I've stuck with only one goal, to limit the carbs to less than 40 a day. I measured and my protein intake is supposed to be 140 grams a day. I thought that was a lot but it's easy to eat 1.5 pounds of meat a day, I love it. I don't worry about going over, a few times I was hungry and my 'snack' would be a piece of chicken or sausage. I just started fitday today to see what my intake is.

I've been lifting weights 4-5 times weeky since March and walk twice a day for 20-30 minutes. I lost ten pounds in March and April, then nothing until I started PP. I've lost another ten in the last three weeks, and that might have been more but had two weekend beer drinking binges (six cans!).

I haven't consulted with my doctor, but next month I'll have a checkup for some meds I'm taking. I'll ask for blood work then. My BP is up, but nothing to worry about.

So I can see this being my way of life forever. I don't even feel like playing with my carb level when I reach my goal weight. I'm not hungry anymore, I love my meals, and have great energy, certainly more than I had six weeks ago.

I'll see how I feel in a month.

[jacksonr]

I started PP June 2 2002. I have no tread the Life Plan book and I think thats the question that start this thread. I call my diet the KISS PP. I kept a log for the first three weeks and figured out what I could eat that kept me at 30 grams of carb and 135 or more protein. Then I just kept eating it.

I've made some exceptions, during vacation and parties, but never for more than one meal in a row and some things are out like the simple carbs; sugars, fructose, honey, etc.

I didn't want to have to think about each meal and I decided that if I'm going to control my eating I've got to stop thinking of it as entertainment.

What I'm having trouble with now as I approach my goal weight I've figuring out what to add back so I stop losing weight. So I'm going to pick up the PPLP book and see what it has to say.

[rkolig]

Hi, my husband and I are following a sort of combination of Atkins and Protein Power. Sorry, but don't have a real journal to post.

It's working for us. We are still losing and very satisfied with the results. I like Protein Power because more emphasis is put on quality proteins and fats.

Mary

[Cinderella]

Today is my first day from atkins to protein power.

cin

[audrey ban]

ivewt gain forces me to return when i eat like normal people we know what happens :wave: :

[Bonnie]

Copied this from the thread "Why did you chose LC"...this is hubby and my story...B


LC Chose Me
I was asked this question in another thread so decided to post my answer here as well....I would have to say we chose this WOL for all of the above reasons...


Actually our story is pretty typical in the fact that we both were following high carb/low fat to the letter... I have always been very active exercising (swimming, walking etc)...but could not shed a pound... was very muscular but was disappointed in my overall appearance and attributed my added poundage to middle age...hubby was built typically like most middle age guys...tiny butt and nice looking legs but all his weight was in his belly...his family has a history of heart disease and diabetes so with most of the weight he was carrying around his middle he was a heart attack waiting to happen...one day a friend had mentioned he was reading a book called Protein Power and that the explanation of following a Low Carb diet made alot of sense to him...he passed it on to my hubby and he read it from cover to cover...hubby is one who does not make decisions on the spur of the moment and analyzes everything to death before acting ( Business Manager ) so when he came to me and expressed a desire to try LC I was amazed... first of all I was pissed off because I had high carb/low fat down to a science and for him to even suggest we eat bacon and eggs sent me ballistic.. on a whim I decided to indulge him... when I jump into something I research it diligently...if we were going to do this we were going to do it right I was flabbergasted when we both started losing weight...this was just too easy after starting the plan I searched for support online and found LC Canada and other great LC sites where things have now progressed a long way since I began this WOE... such wonderful supportive info out there now I began comparing different plans ie Atkins, PP, CAP etc. and for our lifestyle found PP worked best for us...when we started small amounts of LC fruits were not allowed on Atkins and the carb levels for induction/intervention were different etc...decided if it wasn't broke don't fix it hubby was taking lipitor for high chlor but since losing fifty pounds and in the best shape of his life he is now meds free... we are both examples of how this WOL does work and continues to work :wave:

[heather8]

I have been on Protein Power for aprox 40 days and it was the best desion I have ever made. It is amazing!!!! I don't have a journal you can read as I am fairly new here. But I would love to chat with some other Protein Power followers.
Karen congrats on your LOSS!
Anyone out there want to chat?
:wave: Anyone from Calgary, or in around Alberta?

Heather

[Kristine]

Hi Heather! :wave: Check out the Canada forum <a target="_blank" href="http://forum.lowcarber.org/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=15">here (link).</a> There's a Calgary thread there.

Glad you're enjoying this new WOE! I'm doing the protein power thang, too. Sometimes I miss the junk food, but I don't miss the excess weight, blood sugar swings, acne and PMS! :thdown: If I knew how much better I'd feel, I'd have done it years ago!

See you 'round! Feel free to drop by my journal!

[heather8]

Thanks Kristine, I too am enjoying the lack there of the first 20 lbs I lost. It is really starting to feel good. For me I don't miss: The heartburn, those ugly bodily noises only ment to be made by beer drinking belly flappers LOL, the lightheadedness just before eating.
I will check the link, thanks.
How long have you been on PP?:roll:

[Kristine]

>>"those ugly bodily noises..."

:lol: Oh yeah: that, too! :D I don't miss that.

>>"How long have you been on PP?"

Since March. And I'm never going back. :D

[peterj]

Rob
well done on your success. I am wondiring about the total daily calorie intake.
Going by your posting, at 30 g carbs and 60 g protein per day, the total calories from these two would be approx 360. What is your total daily calories intake ? do you exercise as well ?
If you are eating, say, 1200 cals / day, then the balance would be coming from about 90g /day of fat. However going by your general description it does not seem as if you are eating as much as 90 g fat / day.
So your daily calories would seem to be even lower than 1200.
This sounds like a low cal, low carb, low everything diet. Obviously it works. But obviously it is anything but the unlimited eggs, bacon, cheese, cream, etc etc in unlimited quantities which Atkins claims is ok . As you say, much more like Protein Power (and the Zone (Zone is gram for gram low GI carbs and protein, small amount of fats added)), both of whom indicate that in the final analysis, calorie restriction is the only way.

[Rob]

Peter,

if I stuck to the 1200 cal ballpark figure I would never have lost anything and guess what ? I would have given this all up a lonnngggg time agoooooo .

It reallly got boring listening to all the well wishers telling me that I must eat 10 to 12 X body weight . That would have been 1500 cal to 1200 cal . I am a small person and that would have been like eating for 2 . I examined all the scientific facts and decided that at the end of the day it is about cal input but that the cal should not come mainly from fat but rather from protein . So yes I try to keep my fat intake to a minimum ( probably moderate fats compared to low fat diets ). I do use fats in cooking but I am careful about how much I eat . I also by the way I eat , limit my cal intake . That is almost a by- product but I am conscious not to let my cal intake go too high . Protein alone is enough to control your appetite .

As you say , I definitely dont eat 90 g fat per day .

Problem is that the less you have to loose , the harder it is to loose and the more you need to restrict yourself . I find it harder to stick to such a rigid regime but there is no other way for me . I allow myself a freeday over the weekend and then back to business immediatley . Means that weight loss is slow but it allows me to stick to my eating plan .

Rob :wave:

[Pokey]

I would like to get a copy of your recipe for flax muffins please. What do they taste like? I miss stuff like that.
Thanks,
Pokey
:wave:

[Rob]

Pokey ,

here they are. Hope you like em

Flax Muffins
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1/4 cup flax seed -- grind - should make 1/2 cup ground ( 3.5 g ECC , 7.5g protein, fat 13g) each tbl = 0.5g ECC
1/4 cup protein powder ( 2 g carbs) ( 1 scoop per 6 muffins)
2 tablespoons oil or butter
1/4 cup artificial sweetener -- splenda is best
1 egg -- beaten ( 0.5g carbs) or 4 tbl buttermilk ( 40 ml )
1 heaping teaspoon baking powder
1 tsp cinnamon
1 1/2 tblpoons vanilla / 1 1/2 tbl almond essence
1/4 teaspoon salt substitute -- gives potassium
1 ounce chopped nuts -- optional ( 5 g carbs) or 40 g dessicated coconut
1/2 cup water


cinnamon 25g ECC/100g

Mix the above, let sit for a few minutes to thicken if necessary. Spoon into 6 muffin cases in muffin tins.
Bake 25-30 minutes at 350 degrees.(175 deg C) 11 carbs total , 2g to 2.5g carbs/muffin

they are best the next day

Enjoy

[Pokey]

Hey thanks Rob,
Just a little before clue. What do they taste like? Anything you can describe? I have never heard of flax seed let alone used it. So i have no idea what to expect. but cant wait to try it.
Pokey
:roll:

[Rob]

Pokey ,

The Canadians are big on Flax .

The seed is tiny , it comes in 2 varities ; brown and golden . Use the golden ones for culinary use . They are extremely beneficial for you , giving mostly fibre and oil , omega-3 fats , one of the essential fatty acids ,also found in oily fish .

I use flax ground in my breakfast shake and I drink 1 tbl pure flax oil as well . You can read all about the benefits of flax anywhere on the WWW . In cooking ,they add bulk and moisture so can be used instead of bread crumbs .

They do have a taste ( obviously) that I can only say is an acquired taste . It is distinctly plant or grassy in taste when raw but when cooked , is actually tasteless . They have to be ground before you use them because the body cannot digest them in the natural state . Also once ground they need to be kept in the fridge cos they can go rancid quickly . I only grind the amount that I need . You can keep them in their natural state indefinitely .

Thats it . when you combine them with moisture they form a thick paste almost like a runny dough .

[KellyG5]

Hi everyone,
This thread hasn't been too active. but I wanted to put my 2 cents in.
I think Protien Power makes more sense to me. I am able to follow it better than atkins.
I started low carbing about 3 years ago, lost 55 pounds just 5 pounds short of my goal. I because lax about low carbing and over the summer I gained 8-10 pounds. So now I am back on the protien power. Only problem, I lost my book and I would like to re-read it.
I will have to see if the library has a copy of the book.

I would love to hear from others who are doing PP. Stop by my journal and see what I am doing. As I said, I don't have my book and I am just going to wing it until I get my hands on it.

[peterj]

Tried the muffin recipe (actually my wife did) - pretty nice, she used my chocolate flavor protein powder in the mix.

However, tho' yummy I am not sure if they are quite as low in carbs as suggested: see the Flaxseed carb count from the web site as below: 34.25 g Carbs / 100 g. Note this is not the Fibre count, which is shown separately.
Also, 1/4 cup Splenda (about 10 g)= 9.2 g carbs, so this needs to be included in the calculation.

We used:

Flaxseed (Linseed) 130g
Protein pwder 60g
Splenda 10g
Chopped almonds 30g
Olive oil 27g
1 Egg

plus vanilla essence cocnut essence, salt.

These are approx Rob's proportions:
makes 6 muffins: 224 cals each, 6g carb each

A bit dry, might mix some egg whites through the next batch, more water maybe


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http://www.doggieconnection.com/recipe/info/flaxseed.html

Flaxseed
Nutrient Units Value per 100 grams of edible portion
Sample Count Std. Error

Proximates
Water g 8.75
Energy kcal 492
Energy kj 2059
Protein g 19.50
Total lipid (fat) g 34.00
Carbohydrate, by difference g 34.25
Fiber, total dietary g 27.9

[Rob]

When you subtract the fibre from the carbs ,

you get the ECC which for flax seeds is 6 g/100g

Means that you only get 6g per serving

[frannie]

I started doing Atkins about two weeks ago but have strayed over the holidays. I am reading Protein Power and plan to switch to it starting next week. It seems like a plan that I will be able to follow in the long run. I also ordered PPLP and look forward to reading that.

Unfortunately, I have never been one to keep a journal. I will probably update mine on a weekly basis. I have a computer program where I will faithfully record my food intake so that I can keep track of both carbs and calories.

Wish me luck.

:thup:

[dreamer]

Just joined and I needed to hear the good and bad of the program. Mostly good. I am motivated and heard some great meal plans here.

Happy 2003

Rita

[suebean]

Rob -

Not sure what "free for all" means to you - does that mean that for a day you eat whatever you want, carbs and all? I am new and considering PP, so a plateau is not an issue for me yet, but I was just wondering, for the future...

Susan

[Rob]

Susan I have found that once you are well into your eating plan and have lost a significant amount of weight like 50%,

a once a week eating orgy for 24 hours will not make you gain weight . Thats my experience . I would eat freely on Saturdays and then go back to LC the next day , you wont loose but you wont gain .


Rob

[catters323]

The first time i started to do LC was when i came back from my first year away at college. I tell ya, it is criminal what they serve in those cafeterias!!! Every day it was pasta and french fries and potatoes and waffles.... man!! even if you almost starved yourself you could be sure to gain the freshman 15. So i read the PP book and i did it for three weeks and lost about 10 lbs. I was lookin good again but once i stopped i started eating whatever i felt like(like i did before i went away to college, which didnt make me gain anything pre-first-year-of-college, but after that one lousy year it was all downhill from there) and i gained weight again. I tried to do Atkins a few times but it really made me way too ill to continue, so now i am PP again, which i believe is the ideal plan for me because i loooove fruit and i like to have at least one piece per day. I have lost about 7 lbs in the past two weeks i have been doing it and i have energy and i am alot more upbeat than i am when eat like the carb addict that i am. So hopefully in about 5 months or less i will be at goal weight(just in time for summer!) I want to get to 135 and i think that will be a good weight for me because i was 135 when i was a junior in high school(5 yrs ago) and i thought i looked pretty darn good. So good luck to everyone else who is starting PP or who has been on it for awhile. Believe me, with all the LC and sugar free foods there are in the supermarkets now, I firmly believe that LC is just getting easier and easier:)