blood pressure

[soule72]

Anyone know the best way to lower blood pressure with out meds.

[Nancy LC]

Low carb diet did it for me! I bet there are supplements but I can't think of any off the top of my head.

[Merpig]

Anyone know the best way to lower blood pressure with out meds.

If you hear of anything good let me know! I'm on low carb, I've lost over 85 pounds, my blood sugar numbers have plummeted. But it hasn't done diddly-squat for my blood pressure.

[Wolfram]

I also continue to show "high" blood pressure readings in spite of six years of low carb, two years of IF with the last year lowered calorie, too, just because I don't get that hungry anymore. I'm down about 100lbs from my all time high weight before I started dieting--low fat first, then low carb to stop gaining it all back. My mother's BP is also high; she's in her late seventies and healthier than people half her age. When she was in her thirties, a doctor told her she'd have a stroke by the time she was 50. HA! My older sister's is high also, but none of us take any medication for it. "Normal" is only a statistic. No one has ever done a study on my family to determine if our blood pressure is normal for us (I did have a doctor tell me once that BP runs higher in redheads--that's us).

I can have "normal" BP at home when my nurse husband checks me and then have it soar as soon as I step into a doctor's office. I've heard that "normal" BP in years past was 150/90, but has been lowered so drug companies can give out more prescriptions. I've also heard that "normal" BP in the past for your top number was 100 plus your age. I think fretting over BP is way more stressful than accepting that your normal might just be higher than someone else's normal.

I eat good quality meats (grass-fed mostly), don't eat sugar and other junk, never get sick, am happy as a clam and healthier than I've ever been at 51. I don't think a number matters in that situation and I'm not going to take a pill to fix something that I don't think is broken.

Yes, I can hear the "so there" in those words!

[Kisal]

A low-carb diet plus regular exercise. (The exercise has to be strenuous enough to increase your pulse rate sufficiently.)

[M Levac]

Cut the carbohydrate. This will drop blood pressure by about 10-20 points. Add potassium, cut salt (NoSalt). This will drop BP by another 10-20 points.

[soule72]

I eat under 20 carbs I already eat low salt And I take potassium. Nothing lowered.

[glendarc]

If you hear of anything good let me know! I'm on low carb, I've lost over 85 pounds, my blood sugar numbers have plummeted. But it hasn't done diddly-squat for my blood pressure.
Me too - 140-160/80-90 usually, with meds (210/155 without)! Also, I supplement potassium and calcium, and I cut out salt for two years before I decided to add it back because leaving it out wasn't doing a damn thing for my BP. A lot of people CAN control it with low-carb and supplements but we're all different and if anyone has any other suggestions, I'd love to get off my meds!

[soule72]

I read only some people with High blood pressure are sensitive to salt for others their blood pressure is not related to salt at all.

[black57]

First, why do you have high blood pressure in the first place? Is there a possibility that you are in need of medical attention besides the high blood pressure. I read about the way a particular doctor...low carb doctor at that, who said that if the body is injured ( perhaps there is gall bladder problems for example ) then your blood pressure may indeed rise. The heart will pump more blood to areas in need. My husband is recovering from surgery for diverticulitis. Before the surgery he had to take blood pressure medicine. I had speculated that the blood pressure was high because of his diverticulitis. Interestingly his pressure came down following the surgery and it continues to decrease. He has an appointment next week just to check his blood pressure and where a decision will be made about him being taken off meds permanently.

Snoring, something else that he experiences, will also cause blood pressure to rise. So review any health problems you might have. Maybe your high blood pressure is trying to tell you something.

[glendarc]

Well, in my case, 20+ years of being on meds and nothing has shown up on any of my tests and my health has been otherwise good all along. The doc called it "essential" hypertension which, I understand, only means that they haven't been able to find a cause. After this long and at my age, I doubt they will!

[black57]

Here is the article I was talking about. I would begin to come to the bottom of your high blood pressuer problems here... Glendarc, it may help you also.


http://www.douglassreport.com/deardd/090128.html

[FancyKat]

#1. don't eat anything with MSG in it or anything like it.

#2 Use dandelion root and Hawthorn berries or vinegar. Apple cider to be specific. Takes a few months but work.

MSG will raise BP to unheard of heights. My is more normal since I cook from scratch now. Meds were killing me and I am still recovering from that fact.

MSG was the worst part of causing it.

Barb

[1annewil]

ubiqinol a concentrate of COQ10 helps some people. awriter here on this forum can tell you about it.

[1annewil]

ubiquinol-I mis-spelled it.

[mike_d]

Garlic and celery are the only ones I know of, I have tried both plus several different medications. Now I take 25mg atenolol daily which droped my BP 20 points or more. I heard 110 is not low, but I think its too low for me and I can get tired and dizzy sometimes.

[skeeweeaka]

Magnesium, calcium and flax seed seem to be lowering mine lately. Although I agree that sometimes the body can sense inflammation or something which causee higher blood pressure because that happened to be recently.

TJ :rheart:

[FancyKat]

That is one for two meds that started to give me kidney failure.

I know what I entered before works. MSG is known to raise BP. I would do the apple cider but the BP meds caused stomach issues so they gave me stomach meds which did their own damage. I for now can't eat chicken, Milk products, and the vinegar.

I checked my PB the other day and it was normal and I use the herbs that I posted before.

Meds are not the answer in the long run. They do what the meds are supposed to stop happening. I can't tell you the pain I went though on the meds. I am lucky now my kidney's went back working off the meds. I am doing what needs done.

I can't tell anyone enough this: STAY OFF OF MSG AND MSG LIKE PRODUCTS.

When I ate it my pb was to the sky even on meds. I am lucky I did not have a massive stroke. MSG is in exotoxin as well as nutrasweet.

I take very little meds now. I even went cold turkey on my stomach one which I read via Dr. Mercola was a no no. But I have made it though most of the issues now caused by the meds by following the rest of Dr. Mercola's advice.

Barb

Garlic and celery are the only ones I know of, I have tried both plus several different medications. Now I take 25mg atenolol daily which droped my BP 20 points or more. I heard 110 is not low, but I think its too low for me and I can get tired and dizzy sometimes.

[soule72]

thank you for all your comments.

[soule72]

My problem is not really blood pressure although its been a little higher since my attack It was not high before that. I have Takotsubo or broken heart syndrome. The Dr tells me I am on heart meds to support the healing of the heart which they say has a full recovery however they keep patients on these meds indefinitely to prevent the heart from becoming weak again and or having another attack. I hate the meds and Its hard fro me to take them for Just in case while I am healing is one thing. When I talk about going off them My family freaks out. I believe my blood pressure will go back to normal soon and I have to decide to stay on the meds or not. If it was just the blood pressure I would no question stop taking them as my blood pressure is not that high however the thought of having another attack scares me. Since they dont know the cause they really don't know how to treat it. I dont have heart disease my arteries are fine no plaque no high cholesterol. So with no real evidence and info It is hard to make the decision. They did just lower the meds again. I take Metoprolol 25 mg 2x a day and enaplril 2.5 mg 2x a day now. I did not have high blood pressure before my attack the 1st of April. Anyway I am going crazy the dr are no help my family wants me to stay alive so of course they advocate to stay on the meds and google just gives me the same info over and over because they really dont know much about this rare thing.

[Merpig]

ubiquinol-I mis-spelled it.

Interestingly I just ordered some ubiquinol only yesterday, after reading about it somewhere totally elsewhere (a blog I follow). I'll have to see if I can report anything once I get it and start taking it. :D

[1annewil]

a caveat-it takes a while 3-4 months to see improvement. My bp is normal now but I am taking 3 bp meds and the ubiquinol. I am taking my bp 3 times a day to see what the standards at home are and it has gone down but I did increase meds back in March. Anne

[y0u]

Cut the carbohydrate. This will drop blood pressure by about 10-20 points. Add potassium, cut salt (NoSalt). This will drop BP by another 10-20 points.
Martin, great advice, but wanted to let folks know about a possible bad drug interaction.

Yes potassium will lower blood pressure. However, if you are on Lisinapril for high blood pressure you should NOT take any potassium supplements or use nosalt. Google it for more info about the dangers of mixing the two.

I have sucessfully gotten off my blood pressure meds after being on them for several years by eating VLC and often ZC and exercising a lot and of course losing weight.. I now use NoSalt and very little real salt. When I do use real salt I use sea salt with the natural minerals intact..not that processed crap. I also watch my caffeine consumption and eat a lot of cinnamon.

[mike_d]

Atenolol won't cause kidney failure, but high blood pressure will.

Oddly chocolate is another food that helps lower BP along with red wine-- I forgot about those.

[FancyKat]

I was going into kidney failure on the BP meds so they took me off of them. Off of them I am fine.

I talked to another patient in the office and the same happened to him and it took him three months for the kidney's of his to start working again once off of them.

I am doing natural and my doc is ok with that as long as my weight goes down.

Now the research I have just did on this subject does show it does cause one to be diabetic.

http://organizedwisdom.com/Drugs_That_Cause_Kidney_Failure

Here it says ACE inhibitors cause Kidney failure.

Here it tells why.

http://www.med.ucla.edu/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=132

http://www.seton.net/health_a_to_z/health_library/illnesses_and_conditions/acute_renal_failure

It can happen. Drugs are not the answer but only a temp solution that makes a person feel safe till they crash.

Barb

Meds are never good.

As well as I can't say about anything about any subject that is causing HBP.