You have cancer....what will you do different?

[Locarb4mee]

You have just been diagnosed with cancer.

What will you do now?

What will you eat different?
What books will you read?
What sites will you visit?
What about your lifestyle will you change?

Discuss :)

[AlienBug]

Depends on the type and how advanced

Late stage pancreatic and it's steak and ice cream, plenty of it. As long as they're puttin' me in the ground, why go with a perfectly healthy heart?

OTOH, if it was something less drastic, I'd join every support group I can find. It's proven that the more support you have the better. You fight harder the more people you have around you

[Kisal]

When the doctor first told me I had cancer, I didn't even think about doing anything "different." I simply wept.

I had the surgery and the chemo, but five years later they told me that the cancer had metastasized. It isn't terminal at this time, but it is incurable.

Just my personal approach to life, but I don't expect my diet and supplements to cure my cancer. What I do hope, is that those things will help me avoid developing additional problems, such as heart disease and diabetes. :)

[jschwab]

It depends. My mom jus got diagnosed with cancer, but it's the kind of cancer that takes more than one person's lifetime usually to ever metastasize and people always die of something else, so she just checks in with her doctor and does nothing differently. I would probably stop eating sugar entirely.

[Hutchinson]

Read Dr Cannell Does Vitamin d treat Cancer? (http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/2008-jan.shtml)

Get a $30 25(OH)D test. (http://www.grassrootshealth.org/)

Use a 50,000iu D3 once a week are as needed to keep 25(OH)D above 70ng/mL 175nmol/l (https://secure.bio-tech-pharm.com/detail.aspx?product_id=20&cat_id=2&subcat_id=0)

At least that will give a body with a cancer diagnosis a fighting chance of holding it at bay.
We know those diagnoses/treated when 25(OH)D is highest have higher/longer survival.
It is entirely reasonable to think the 25(OH)D that enables breast milk to flow replete with D3 is the level that our bodies evolved to attain and maintain.

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/1PsyaYNX1dw/default.jpgDose-Response of Vitamin D and a Mechanism for Cancer Prevention (http://www.ucsd.tv/search-details.asp?showID=15767)

http://i4.ytimg.com/vi/KOUR9JSmY3w/default.jpgVitamin D Deficiency: Analysis and Approach in a Comprehensive Cancer Center (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOUR9JSmY3w&feature=channel)

If you haven't time to watch all the videos at grassrootshealth then at least Go through the slides used in those presentations (http://www.grassrootshealth.org/documentation/index.php)

[Locarb4mee]

This is what I'm doing. I'll attempt to keep my journal up to date here.
Journal (http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?p=7760015#post7760015)

I'm reading the most astonishing book called AntiCancer (http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?p=7760015#post7760015). I didn't know there was solid science and plenty of research behind such foods as blueberries, walnuts, turmeric (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12680238) and green tea (to name a few).

Here's another source (http://foodconsumer.org/7777/8888/C_ancer_31/122102322008_Brain_cancer_survivor_talks_about_anticancer_foods.shtml) discussing this doctor's strategy

When I'm done with that book I have 2 more lined up for nutritional and behavioral ways to fight cancer. Yes, I'm going to do chemo and radiation but I am convinced that the battle is best fought with my OWN immune system, no matter what else I do.

[Locarb4mee]

Depends on the type and how advanced

Late stage pancreatic and it's steak and ice cream, plenty of it. As long as they're puttin' me in the ground, why go with a perfectly healthy heart?

OTOH, if it was something less drastic, I'd join every support group I can find. It's proven that the more support you have the better. You fight harder the more people you have around you :lol: I hear ya on pancreatic. Thank God that's not what I have. My mother died of it in 2001 after only 4 weeks of illness. It was horrific.

But yes, I agree. I would be eating like James Beard as long as I could, most likely.

I've belonged to a Yahoo group specifically and exclusively for this cancer (Farrah Fawcett is a member and if you google her, you will know what I have :blush: ) and you are SO right. The support is phenomenal. Those folks are rapidly becoming like family to me.

2 yrs ago when I first found out I had this cancer, I mostly read and asked a few questions because most of them were undergoing active treatment for Stage 2-4. I was just a piddling "in situ" and furthermore the "specialist" at Ohio State basically blew me off and said, "You don't even have real cancer".

He was wrong.

Now they are welcoming me back with great posts full of information and guidance and support.

[Nancy LC]

I'm not entirely sure what I'd do, I can only guess what my frame of mind would be.

My guess is I would stay low carb and probably go lower if I could. I would take supplements that had promising results. I would look into clinical trials that seem promising. I'd talk to survivors and try to figure out who the best doctors are.

For you, the type of cancer you have also has a link to celiac disease. Are you gluten free?

[lil' annie]

Were I to be informed that I had cancer, my immediate reaction would be one of anger. But that would be momentary, just a few seconds.

I'd get myself to a large supermarket and purchase ALL of the organic grapes and carrots they had on hand, and pick up a variety of spring waters.

Then I'd go home, get out the old juicer, and while fasting on grape juice and carrot juice, I'd find a copy of that old classic entitled, THE GRAPE CURE.

Meantime, I'd be finding out everything possible I could online about Transfusions of Vitamin C - and find out if there are anymore places nowadays other than what used to be one clinic in the midwest where I could schedule a long number of transfusions.

Were I feeling desperately ill from the cancer, then every other day, I'd drop the grape juice & carrot juice, and simply fast on water.

But this is only what I believe that *I* would actually do, and I'd never advise anyone to undertake anything remotely similar. :)

[Locarb4mee]

I'm not entirely sure what I'd do, I can only guess what my frame of mind would be.

My guess is I would stay low carb and probably go lower if I could. I would take supplements that had promising results. I would look into clinical trials that seem promising. I'd talk to survivors and try to figure out who the best doctors are.

For you, the type of cancer you have also has a link to celiac disease. Are you gluten free?
Yes, gluten free ever since you sent me that link to Dr. William Davis' blog :D
Probably 2-3 months.

I've actually been doing ZC/VLC for about 5 weeks.

[Locarb4mee]

Were I to be informed that I had cancer, my immediate reaction would be one of anger. But that would be momentary, just a few seconds.

I'd get myself to a large supermarket and purchase ALL of the organic grapes and carrots they had on hand, and pick up a variety of spring waters.

Then I'd go home, get out the old juicer, and while fasting on grape juice and carrot juice, I'd find a copy of that old classic entitled, THE GRAPE CURE.

Meantime, I'd be finding out everything possible I could online about Transfusions of Vitamin C - and find out if there are anymore places nowadays other than what used to be one clinic in the midwest where I could schedule a long number of transfusions.

Were I feeling desperately ill from the cancer, then every other day, I'd drop the grape juice & carrot juice, and simply fast on water.

But this is only what I believe that *I* would actually do, and I'd never advise anyone to undertake anything remotely similar. :)

:lol: :lol: Annie. That's why I phrased my question the way I did. Good for you!

I did juice fasting the last time. It's tolerable, although it never satisfied hunger for long, and I think there may be too much sugar the way I did it, too. If I do juicing again, I'll skip the carrots and concentrate on dark berries and green veggies, fresh parsley and some spices.

[Zuleikaa]

If I had cancer, I'd overwhelm it with vitamin D...injections, intraveniously, and by mouth. This in addition to making sure I wasn't feeding it sugar.

[lil' annie]

:lol: :lol: Annie. That's why I phrased my question the way I did. Good for you!

I did juice fasting the last time. It's tolerable, although it never satisfied hunger for long, and I think there may be too much sugar the way I did it, too. If I do juicing again, I'll skip the carrots and concentrate on dark berries and green veggies, fresh parsley and some spices.


They've discovered a specific chemical in carrots, it's a natural pesticide found in all carrots, and they found it prevents the growth of tumors.

[Locarb4mee]

I've bumped up my daily Vit D3 to 6000 mg daily, starting last week.

I had neglected to listen to the YouTube doctor but it's compelling! The rest of Hutchinson's links I did look at.

Thanks, Hutchinson (again!)

[Locarb4mee]

They've discovered a specific chemical in carrots, it's a natural pesticide found in all carrots, and they found it prevents the growth of tumors.

Clearly that is going to have to go into the category of "does the benefit outweigh the risk" for me. I will go research it now, thanks for the update!!

[lil' annie]

In one of the old books by Prevention Magazine, there was an article about carrots - from decades ago, that nutritionists couldn't figure out why smokers who ate the most carrots never came down with lung cancer.

Somewhere, in an old posting on one of THESE forums, there is a posting stating that carrots are NOT high glycemic.


NEWS STORY FROM BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4246107.stm


Google Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=bbc+carrots+cancer

[lil' annie]

Are you aware that the original results for carrots on the glycemic index were utterly inaccurate, and that they have now been RE-tested and thus no longer have a high score?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22glycemic+index%22+carrots

[Locarb4mee]

No, I was not aware.

But I did see on Nature's website that the study cited that carrots (farocinol was it?) has also been discredited as a cancer preventative. I just didn't want to spend $8 to get the full report. :lol:

Doesn't mean they aren't good for our general health. I'm speaking mainly of the juice of carrots. It's rather sugary. (http://www.hacres.com/diet/research/carrot_juice_full.pdf) I'm going to skip juicing them for now, but will add them into salads and vegetable mixtures that I steam. I think I can get healthful benefits from the other things in my diet and avoid the sugars.

I also have a fatty liver. The last thing it needs is lots of fructose.

[lil' annie]

Shucks, I hadn't read that.

Also, be certain to check all the latest about Vitamin C tranfusions because I know there have been news stories about this in the past year.

I was really startled, as I thought that that had been totally discredited years ago, but no.

It has to be transfused, it's a HUGE amount, not anything you can take by mouth.

[NrgQuest]

Thanks Annie,

I will remember Vitamin C transfusions if I get cancer. What I would do on my own is eat 6 garlic heads a day(yuck, I love garlic not that much though) plenty of habanero peppers(yikes those are hot), and lots of fresh ginger. I would up my intake of coconut oil to 5 or more tbs(heck if I can't eat, might as well take lots of oil), I would pretty much do what I am doing now if, I am not to sick to eat. Plenty of protein rich foods, no sugar. I would eliminate caffine as much as I love it and AS, just because it might be more a strain on an already strained system. I am not sure that is the case, but better safe than oops the cancer isn't going away. Maybe I would fry the garlic, peppers, and ginger in coconut oil and put it on some eggs, it might not be horrible that way.

[lil' annie]

LOL, garlic? I just finished eating a heaping quarter cup of raw minced garlic -- it is the only thing that ever gets totally rid of beginning sinus infections for me. The Vitamin D works a couple days later, but hasn't gotten totally rid of it, and now I'm positive that I have tooooooo much D-3 in my system, and it didn't work like I thought it would.

So.... garlic.

Just have to remember to NOT eat yogurt, because garlic & yogurt together are way too "combustible."

[NrgQuest]

Just have to remember to NOT eat yogurt, because garlic & yogurt together are way too "combustible."

Thanks for the warning, I did not know that was a combustible combination. I am increasing my garlic this week. I know it has a tendency to energize me only so I can crash later, but I want to rid my body of whatever it is that is causing me fatigue.

[Hutchinson]

The Vitamin D works a couple days later, but hasn't gotten totally rid of it, and now I'm positive that I have tooooooo much D-3 in my system, and it didn't work like I thought it would."$30 is all that is required to asses 25(OH)D status. (http://www.grassrootshealth.org/daction/index.php)

This chart shows the ideal minimum level associated with least chronic illness.

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss230/tedhutchinson/vitamindstatus-1.jpg
from
Dose-Response of Vitamin D and a Mechanism for Prevention of Cancer (http://www.grassrootshealth.org/_download/Garland_C_Cance_%20Vitamin_%20DV1.pdf)

[Locarb4mee]

$30 is all that is required to asses 25(OH)D status. (http://www.grassrootshealth.org/daction/index.php)

This chart shows the ideal minimum level associated with least chronic illness.

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss230/tedhutchinson/vitamindstatus-1.jpg
from
Dose-Response of Vitamin D and a Mechanism for Prevention of Cancer (http://www.grassrootshealth.org/_download/Garland_C_Cance_%20Vitamin_%20DV1.pdf)

Actually, I should mention that it's more than just a test on that site. You sign up for a study to get the test, and you can subscribe for several years and 2 tests per year, or just one or two tests. I did it yesterday. I signed up for just one test to be taken out of Paypal, because who knows what I'll be doing when it rolls around time to be tested again.

[Hutchinson]

Actually, I should mention that it's more than just a test on that site. You sign up for a study to get the test, and you can subscribe for several years and 2 tests per year, or just one or two tests. I did it yesterday. I signed up for just one test to be taken out of Paypal, because who knows what I'll be doing when it rolls around time to be tested again.Indeed but it is possible, if you want more tests than just twice yearly, to login, skip the questionnaire and proceed to the order test page for additional tests between the predetermined six monthly dates.So in your first year of supplementing you could test 3 monthly to get a more accurate representation of how your body responds seasonally and how the changes in Vitamin D3 supplementation work out in practice.

Anyone who feels they are unfairly taking advantage of the system may always http://www.grassrootshealth.org/newweb/images/donate_bg.gif DONATE (https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flow&SESSION=wVKM1FAqC6iiOJHJ04rWadxmcUKcP17aq_T3ridTTgnU7NFesFBsc7mw-60&dispatch=5885d80a13c0db1fa798f5a5f5ae42e779d4b5655493f6179ce75df482f0dee1)

Vitamin D COUNCIL (http://www.zrtlab.com/Page.aspx?nid=12&action=view&category=14&partner=VitaminD%20Council) do the same tests for $55 each if you pay for 4 at one go so a donation of $25 on top of the test fee would be reasonable if you can afford it.

[Locarb4mee]

I think it's pretty cool that I can be part of a study like this :thup:

[Elffriend]

I was diagnosed with breast cancer in August 2006. I didn't do anything diet-wise at first. It's too much of a shock and too difficult just to get through the initial treatment. I had surgery, then radiation. After I had healed from the radiation burns, I decided it was time to go back to lowcarb eating.

That was April of 2007, so I am coming up on 2 yrs and 85 lbs gone. I have a long way to go as far as weight loss, but even if I never lose another pound, I am doing the best I can for my overall health by eating this way.

[Kaity]

I'd look further into German New Medicine (http://germannewmedicine.ca/documents/welcome.html).

[Locarb4mee]

Here's an interesting take on it, one you won't see all over the place for sure:
http://www.brianpeskin.com/reports/Cancer-PEO-CAMB.pdf