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feelskinny
Thu, Feb-12-09, 10:27
Can this be in any way related to induction?
I've never had this problem before or at least not for such a extended period. I started induction after Christmas and now I sleep intermittently. I can't seem to find any other correlation...?? *Yawn* -- 'xcuse me. :o
Any thoughts/insights?
deeyounee
Thu, Feb-12-09, 10:35
Same here, im tired as fuck all the time and its taking me about an hour to fall asleep and im up 2-3 times a night.
The worst part is when i need to wake up is when im finally ready to sleep.
Its probably because of the change in your system. Are you working out? Perhaps your metabolism is up and running, maybe your body isn't ready for bed?
Hairballz
Thu, Feb-12-09, 10:53
There are really just TONS of things that can impact sleep, including age, stress, hormones, and on and on. I suppose it is possible, maybe even probable that adjusting to no/low carbs can cause that, too, but don't rule out other possibilities. I never had sleeping problems at ALL until I hit perimenopause a few years back and started having massive problems getting to sleep, staying asleep. I ended up with a prn prescription for Ambien.
Don't take that to hear me say run out and get a prescription - I totally hate taking any medications, but short-term use of Ambien for a couple weeks completely "re-set" whatever sleep problem I was having, and now I keep a prescription around just for those occasional nights when I can't seem to "turn my head off" and really MUST get a good night's sleep because of a big day ahead or some such thing. Very rarely.
Nancy LC
Thu, Feb-12-09, 11:03
Yeah, ketosis can give you insomnia. Dr. Eades recommended having something a little carby just at bed time.
Another subject I left off is sleep. Numerous studies have shown that more good quality sleep will help with weight loss. As we age, it becomes more and more difficult to get good quality sleep. Often regaining the formerly lost weight brings on acid reflux and GERD, which tend to cause awakening in the middle of the night. And once we get going again on a low-carb diet, we usually get into a little ketosis, which makes falling asleep a little more difficult yet. There are a few things to be done. First, the low-carb diet - even the second time around - typically gets rid of the reflux and GERD pretty quickly. (I’ve got another post that I’ll probably put up next week about a supplement that will knock reflux on its head quickly.) You can help with falling asleep, which is what most people are troubled with, by doing a couple of things. First, get some low-dose sublingual melatonin tabs. These you can dissolve under your tongue as you turn in. It’s important that you take the melatonin right before you turn out all the lights - don’t take it and stay up and watch TV or read. You want the room to be dark. The pineal gland releases melatonin as a response to darkness, and its function is to help you get to sleep. It has antioxidant properties, along with many other functions, but you will be taking it to sleep. There is a fall off in melatonin release by the pituitary with aging, which is one of the reasons people have more difficulty sleeping as they get older. So, try the melatonin if you’re having trouble. The other thing you can do is to have a cup of herbal tea right before bedtime. And sweeten the tea with either sugar or honey. That’s right. Real sugar. A teaspoon of sugar is about 5 grams of carb, which won’t do a lot to hinder your weight loss, but it will be enough to shut down ketone production long enough to get you to sleep. And if you think a teaspoon of sugar isn’t all that much, remember, it’s the total amount circulating in your blood if you have a normal blood sugar.
http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/bogus-studies/more-thoughts-on-why-low-carb-the-second-time-around/
Kisal
Thu, Feb-12-09, 14:49
If you're using coconut oil, it's been known to contribute to insomnia when taken too late in the day.
If your sleep is being interrupted because you have to get up frequently to use the bathroom, you might want to reduce your fluid intake during the day, or at the very least, limit fluids for 3 hours before you retire for the night. Just suggestions, so feel free to ignore them. :)
j.carlos22
Thu, Feb-12-09, 16:23
Yes very true. be careful with what you consume before you sleep. Do things that keep your mind off of anything that's stressing you. You should get your body accustomed to sleeping in bed by not doing anything on your bed but sleep. That includes not watching TV. so on and so forth. exercise usually helps me sleep along with a warm shower and warm milk. I take a couple hyland's pills before i sleep. get em on amazon for cheap, and they usually help you get some sleep too.
Most importantly - Keep what ever is on your mind clear and forget about worries. enough will be brought out in the morning. They actually have this new stuff coming out about buying some machine that makes nature noises to help you clear your mind and sleep. Maybe you can put relaxing music on before you sleep! Take care and good luck!
If you're using coconut oil, it's been known to contribute to insomnia when taken too late in the day.
If your sleep is being interrupted because you have to get up frequently to use the bathroom, you might want to reduce your fluid intake during the day, or at the very least, limit fluids for 3 hours before you retire for the night. Just suggestions, so feel free to ignore them. :)
mike_d
Thu, Feb-12-09, 18:23
I use "Aire Freshener" can't sleep without it-- the deep sea sound is soothing.
http://www.peterhirschberg.com/mysoftware.html
Kisal
Thu, Feb-12-09, 18:38
One of my doctors told me that I should avoid bright light for 2 hours before I tried to sleep. He said it takes that long for enough melatonin to build up in your system to allow you to fall asleep and stay asleep through the night. I had been staying on the computer or watching movies on TV until right before I went to bed. Now, I go to bed and read for a couple of hours. It seems to work! :thup:
feelskinny
Fri, Feb-13-09, 15:57
Wow! Thanks everyone for posting, lots to consider here.
Nancy: that rings a bell. I seem to remember hearing others on the board say they have trouble sleeping when in ketosis.
Mike_d: Looks interesting!
I'm not having to get up in the night, I'm just waking up.
Kisal: I have recently incorporated CO back into my diet, but only in my morning coffee.
I do suspect that certain stresses aren't helping and perhaps so do some meditative exercise before sleeping...
Thanks again!
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