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curep4
Fri, Feb-06-09, 00:10
I am out going into my 3rd week of induction coming up this tuesday. I've prolly dropped about 25 pounds already but have stalled the last 2-3 days it seems. I hear this is just my body adjusting though and the loss should continue again soon.

My main issue is that I just cant hit the gym like I want to on this diet. I feel like crap most of the day and when I am at the gym trying to get my workout and weights in I just feel like throwing up the entire time. I floating in my head. I want to hit my target weight as soon as possible and I feel like if I cant hit the gym intense it's going to take longer. I am cant shake this induction flu or whatever it is.... I dont crave or really ever feel hungry just so weak and flu like symptoms all day.

Is there anything I can do? Shouldn't my body have adjusted to this already? Is it that my brain isnt getting enough energy cuz my workouts to stall?

I am almost at the point to where I'd rather just get back on carbs and just work out and lose the last 15-20 pounds I wanna lose the hard and long way over the span of 3-4 months.

Somebody tell me my body is going to adjust to this soon. I am losing hope and patience with it.

Elizellen
Fri, Feb-06-09, 04:05
You might find it better once you move to OWL and add more net carbs.
As you have already lost half of the weight you want to (according to your stats) there would probably be no benefit in staying on induction longer.

farnoush
Fri, Feb-06-09, 04:39
Hi

I've found that taking the Vitamin supplements helps me to lose weight more easily and also boost my energy level.
Also Omega 3 fish oil supplement is pretty essential to weight loss and muscle building, and if you diet without them, then you become deficient, making it difficult or impossible to lose weight.
Make sure you're getting enough fats/oils in your diet, because they help burn fat and gaining more energy. Frying foods isn't ideal for getting your fats, but using coconut oil for frying would be beneficial.
I don't think changing your diet is a good idea now as you will put back on at least half of the weight you have already lost by switching suddenly from Induction to carbs.
Also I think you should restrict your Gym time to max one hr a day and try to do more gentle exercises. Like instead of running on treadmill try to walk for a longer period on normal speed.
Good Luck :)

Mousesmom
Fri, Feb-06-09, 10:39
A temporary slowing of WL is common in weeks 3-4 - this is NOT a stall, it's your body adjusting.

Given how much you have already lost, move into OWL and add carbs according to the carb ladder and you will see an increase in your endurance pretty quickly.

GL, Julie

gem52372
Fri, Feb-06-09, 11:13
I know all about your frustration! I am having a hard go at it this time around myself. I seem to be gaining and losing the same 2lbs and I havent cheated NOT ONCE!! I finally got a treadmill this week so I am hoping the exercise will get me out of my slump. Try to stay on course and give your body a chance to play catch up....I am fighting this battle right along with ya if ya need someone to just vent at stop by my journal!!
Take care!

kidnj
Fri, Feb-06-09, 16:08
If you're floating in your head and are dizzy, it's likely that you're not eating enough food. I understand the desire to lose weight quickly, but you probably should put unrealistic demands on yourself like that.

The "Atkins Flu" you refer to is actually a side effect to fungal die-off and the more toxic you were to begin with, the more nasty and horrifying you'll feel. Particularly if you just stay in induction the whole time. If you want to throw in the towel, eat carbs, and just work out like a maniac, then so be it. But that fungus is still going to be there and I can pretty much guarantee you'll be back fighting the same 25 pounds again in another year.

Atkins is a lifestyle, not a diet, so if you're doing it only to reach a short-term goal, IMHO, you're doing it for the wrong reasons.

Good luck to you however.
d.

curep4
Fri, Feb-06-09, 16:47
If you want to throw in the towel, eat carbs, and just work out like a maniac, then so be it. But that fungus is still going to be there and I can pretty much guarantee you'll be back fighting the same 25 pounds again in another year.

Explain this to me. Why is this fungus in your system having such a impact on your weight gain? Isn't the fungus consuming the glucose in your system thus you having less of it in your system for your own cells?

Also, with such a huge die off of bacteria, fungus, etc in your system... Is your normal flora being killed off as well? That could be bad.

Rachel1
Fri, Feb-06-09, 21:37
In my experience (I've been low-carbing and on this board 8+ years), Atkins "flu" is not a response to a fungal die-off but rather your body's adaptation from carb-burning to fat-burning. Some people have longer and more severe symptoms, others have no symptoms at all.

You've lost a huge amount of weight in three weeks. How long did it take you to gain 25 pounds? Why do you think you should be able to lose them faster than you gained them? My guess is that your fatigue is caused by too rapid weight loss, and you need to up the carbs a bit to slow loss and make yourself more comfortable. Be patient.

Kisal
Fri, Feb-06-09, 22:42
I agree with Rachel! :agree:

It isn't uncommon for people to be unable to exercise with their usual intensity during the Induction period, but as they move into OWL, adding more carbs from vegetables, they often find that they have even more energy and strength than before they switched to lc. During the first 2 weeks (Induction) your body is adapting to using fat for fuel, instead of glucose. Once that is completed, you should be fine. Be sure your daily menu includes plenty of fat, though. :thup: :thup: :thup:

kidnj
Sat, Feb-07-09, 22:58
curep4,

I won't bother going into it all here. I don't want to perpetuate any form of back-and-forth that could turn into a flame-job.

But I will say this... candida is awful, and when you've got it (and anyone who says they've never dealt with it is fooling themselves, as 85% of the world has an overgrowth of some level), it's partly because your friendly flora is already out of whack -- not the other way around. But once it takes hold, it can be very challenging to bring back symbiosis. People like to say there's a big "transition" from carb-burning to glycogen-burning, as if there's a little man inside the body who's had to run and shut off one machine on one side of the body and then run all the way back and turn a different one on, all the way on the other side, and he's really tired from that. It's not that big of a transition, I hate to say. Yes, indeed, some folks who perpetually suffer on Atkins are not suffering from die-off -- they are generally toxic in other ways and are over-taxing the kidneys through a permanent state of ketosis (which can cause kidney failure).

So if you haven't gotten over this in awhile, and you stick with the diet, then you may wish to either consider having your BUN/creatinine checked or you may want to try a candida-cleansing protocol.

Again, best of luck on your journey.
d.

Rachel1
Sat, Feb-07-09, 23:08
That ketosis causes kidney failure is a myth that's been long debunked.

Rachel

Ptrcmcc6
Sun, Feb-08-09, 06:12
Sometimes I think people get ketosis and ketoacidosis confused with each other:

Ketoacidosis should not be confused with ketosis, which is one of the body's normal processes for the metabolism of body fat. In ketoacidosis, the body fails to adequately regulate ketone production causing such a severe accumulation of keto acids that the pH of the blood is substantially decreased.

Ketoacidosis usually occurs with T1 diabetics, is very dangerous, and can be fatal:

In diabetic patients, ketoacidosis is usually accompanied by insulin deficiency, hyperglycemia, and dehydration. Particularly in type 1 diabetics the lack of insulin in the bloodstream prevents glucose absorption and can cause unchecked ketone body production (through fatty acid production) potentially leading to dangerous glucose and ketone levels in the blood. Hyperglycemia results in glucose overloading the nephron and spilling into the urine. Dehydration results following the osmotic movement of water into urine, exacerbating the acidosis

Zarlok
Sun, Feb-08-09, 06:29
I really recommend you take a look at the "diet plan" in my profile thing.

If you like to hit the weights, and want to actually buil muscle mass, it's about the only option. Or you can just read on the internet, search for "cyclic ketogenic diet". I used to use that diet to pack on muscle and lose fat. But I got into an accident over a year ago and my weight lifting days can no longer happen, at least for the time being.