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In_Control
Thu, Mar-21-02, 14:50
I want to start a motivational section called WHY I HATE BEING FAT!!!! Then every time I even have the slightest thought to go off my diet, I can come back here and look and see why I MUST STAY IN CONTROL!!!!!!


1. Clothes. Tired of nothing fitting and going to the BIG women's section. They have the UGLIEST CLOTHES!!!!

2. Sweating! I hate sweating! And I've noticed in the last 10 lbs or so that I've gained...that I sweat when doing things!!!! AHHHHHH. I'm so tired of that! I of course live in the most humid and hot climate, but gosh it's so much worse now. Does anyone else have this problem? :tears:

3. Too Tired all the time!

4. Want to play with my kids, like a kid. But I feel like a fat 90 year old woman.

5. I WANT to be sexy again. Let me rephrase that... I WANT to feel sexy again and Free.


I actually made a list of the reasons I hate being fat, and I've come up with 65! And all of them are pretty good.

Please add your comments too!

Mike
Thu, Mar-21-02, 15:07
My primary reasons are my kids.

I want to play with them with high energy as long as they are want to.

I don't want this to be the example they follow for their health.

I want to live long enough to see them go to college, get married, and have kids or whatever they've got in store for them.

Now that I'm losing some weight, if I could just stop sniffing paint fumes, everthing would be grand. (J/K)

Mike

In_Control
Thu, Mar-21-02, 16:27
Mike DITTO! Thank you for adding some really important reasons to stick with this WOL! I share those reasons as well.

I'll add another one....

I HATE being fat because when I see myself in a mirror or window at the mall as I'm walking by...I don't know who that person is looking back at me. I'm appalled that it's actually me I don't recognize! I want to see the REAL me looking back.

ldypgmr
Thu, Mar-21-02, 18:17
1. Fat people are generally isoloated from the mainstream of society.

2. Everything I want to do, I am over the weight limit for the equipment.

3. My butt is ugly. My whole goal is to have a cute little one!


Dee

rncomet
Thu, Mar-21-02, 20:14
i hate being fat,

i am unable to ride bikes, play tennis, hike in the mountain, go to the beach, go swimming.

the reflection in the mirror cannot be me.

i cannot connect the two, eating and fat! eating disables me from doing the things i want, however LCing has given me hope. i like the energy and the diminished cravings, they help me feel in control. thanks i feel somewhat liberated

Pete
Thu, Mar-21-02, 20:35
Sex is better. That's can be a good motivator.

Elora Jade
Thu, Mar-21-02, 20:57
Sorry, no bite here, I think that if you are secure enough with your relationship with your spouse, the sex IS wonderful regardless of your weight. (but this is my opinion) And from a personal standpoint, where I was with my husband before and after all the weight its only gotten better as the years go by.

Well, now that I have probably horrified some of you;

Some of the reasons I want to be thinner:

1) I want to have a baby (working on 10 years of infertility here)
2) I want to actually LIKE having my picture taken.
3) When I go into a health food store I dont want the clerk to assume I am there for treatment of my weight.
4) I want to be healthy, and not a walking heart attack (or any other fat ailment)
5) I want to "do stuff" (skiing, rollerblading, - these are things I have never done and have been too self conscious to do-afraid to make an ass of myself in front of all those skinny people)
6) I want to buy the occasional sweet treat and not have people give me....."THE LOOK"....
7) I want to be an example to my children (if and when) of a healthy lifestyle
8) Want to wear nice, sexy clothes (okay, a little vain, but hey!)
9) I want my husband to bear hug me and lift me up without my fearing he is going to seriously hurt himself!! (he does it all the time, and he says that I'm light as a feather - yeah ok - I love my hubby! :rheart: )

This is a great topic!!

Pete
Thu, Mar-21-02, 21:07
From a man's point of view, sex is definitely better when you're in shape. Don't get me wrong, sex is always good, but after all, there's some excercise involved.

In_Control
Thu, Mar-21-02, 21:25
Elora Jade, we share something. I also went through infertility (4 years...found out it was a problem with hubby and fixable, even though for years they said he was fine...HE WASN'T!) and GOODNEWS...I have 2 wonderful, beautiful, sweet, adorable, etc. kids now.

Having gone through these 2 pregnacies I can tell you...being overweight makes it sooooooooo hard. The last time I was pregnant I had gestatioinal diabeties! Thank goodness she's okay, but that was scary.

I want to try for #3 but...unlike yourself, I'm getting old! But I MUST get down to a reasonable weight before even trying and the clock is ticking!

I wish you great success and I love all the things you stated. My hubby loves me at this ridiculous weight, but I want to love me more than I can right now. This weight problem is my GREATEST WEAKNESS! If I can overcome this, hopefully I can start working on the other weaknesses with great strength, knowing I overcame my greatest personal challenge.

Keep in touch and good luck!

ldypgmr
Fri, Mar-22-02, 05:56
I agree with what most of you have said. I don't date, not because I don't want to, but because I am ashame for anyone to see this body without clothes.

I just ended a 10 year friendship because I suddenly woke-up and realized that he was treating me like trash. AND I DESERVE BETTER! My self-esteem is rising. I no longer feel like "I deserve to be treated differently, because I am overweight and" .... I think you all probably know the rest of the words.

Yes, losing this much weight is quite an accomplishment! This WOE has been no problem for me and not a real stretch. I know that I will have other challenges as I near my goal...mainly flabby skin. But a good surgeon can take care of that! I just want to be thin, I want to find someone who shares my interests, and I no longer want fear to hold me back.

That which does not kill us, makes us stronger!

Dee

:wave:

DWRolfe
Fri, Mar-22-02, 08:04
...So little time...

I'm not sure there's enough room on this board for all of my reasons, but I'll boil it down to just these...

I hate that people look past me as though I don't exsist or as though looking at me hurts their eyes.

I hate that I have to buy my clothes at big men shops or through mail order instead of off the rack at nicer places.

I'm tired of the split seconds of consideration I have to give before I sit on a chair or the worry I have before attending meetings and events concerning my comfort.

I don't want my parents to look at me with concern for my health in their eyes...

But I could go on....

On the flip side, I'm down 47lbs today and I feel great...I fully intend to meet my goal.

Donald :wave:

OKwoer
Fri, Mar-22-02, 11:43
Donald...you're a great inspiration. Keep up the great work.

Some of my reasons for hating being fat:

1. I can't play with my daughter the same as other dads.

2. I hate walking into a room and thinking that the sum total of who people think I am is based on how I look.

3. Not having the stamina to do the things I really want to do.

4. Well I don't like being morbid, but seriously, I hate feeling like this might be the year my weight catches up with me and kills me.

5. Riding in someone elses car and having to squeeze myself in and then having muscle spasms from being contourted.

Oh man...I could go on for days...

Looking forward to seeing all the others.

OKwoer
Fri, Mar-22-02, 11:45
Oh...I had to add one more...this one is a biggy with me...

I hate having to ask for a table instead of a booth at a resturaunt.

DWRolfe
Fri, Mar-22-02, 12:01
Right on, Jim!

I'm so looking forward to fitting into booths in resturaunts again. A friend of mine mentioned an eatery that he enjoys and suggested that I would too. But he qualified his recommendation with a comment about it being a "booth only" place...which sort of hurt my feelings..even though I know he truly only had my comfort level in mind.

And muscle spasms from being crammed in cars hit home for me too. I've experienced spasms that were so awful I thought I'd faint. :mad:

And this IS your year, Jim...just not the one you worry it might be...

Donald :wave:

kiwi
Sat, Mar-23-02, 05:49
I feel for everyone on this thread. All of your pet hates about being overweight certainly ring true for me also. There is even less acceptance in our country of overweight people than in yours I believe. I haven't dared go to a beach or public swimming pool for years. Unfortunately people stare and make comments to their mates as if being fat makes you deaf as well. I understand completely about "booths" in restaurants, this has long been a problem. The other awkward time is in airplanes and movie theatres. Fitting in without drawing attention is one of my biggest goals. I must be strong and get back on track, the holiday season really knocked my diet for six. It's time to get stuck in and I hope by checking back here from time to time to gain inspiration and resolve from your stories.
Good luck to everyone, I'll touch base again next month.
All the best KIWI.

hjackson
Sat, Mar-23-02, 08:10
~I'm tired of the backaches I'm having

~I have to forever lower my standards for what and who I want to be while having to forever buy bigger clothes.

~I'm afraid that when people look at me, all they can see is my weight. This is of special concern when I'm in restaurants, and I'm paranoid that my waiter either wants to or is mocking me behind my back for my food choices.

~Sex may be good with my husband, but I'm always ashamed of how how I look to him. As good as he is to me, he deserves the best in the world, and I always feel that, the shape I am...I can't be it. I know in my head that I am OK, I am acceptable, and even better, but it's still something I struggle with.

~I'm always ashamed when I go to the gym, especially the other day at the pool, when we were there at the same time as the water arobics class, and every one of them was thinner than I.

sms1
Sat, Mar-23-02, 11:12
This is a GREAT thread !

Airline Seats! I love to travel, but I have always dreaded flying because the seats were very uncomfortable, I always had to get a belt extender, and I often felt bad for those sitting next to me. (depending on the person, if you know what I mean! ;) )

ADLs (Activities of Daily Living)- I find that the more weight I lose, the easier it is to walk, move, sit, excersize, go to theaters, plays, concerts, play with my kids, enjoy my hobbies, move around the boat, etc.

As said before...Clothes Shopping! I am tired of having to have to go to Big and Tall Stores or Mail Order Shop. I resent having to pay large amounts of money for clothes of inferior quality. I hate paying exorbanant prices for large clothes of decent quality ($50 for Dockers) I am happt that I am finally reaching the upper limit of what some store seem to consider "normal size" (XL Shirt and 44-46" waist).

I am tired of "the look". (Even though I am quite good at what I do, I never could appreciate the idea that I was considered to be lazy, stupid, or un-motivated until proven otherwise.

I resent the wear and tear I have subjected my poor body to over the years. Back Pain, Twisted Ankles, Heel Spurs, Poor Conditioning, Ungainly falls, etc...

I could go on, but you get the idea. I have lost alot, and I have a long way to go! But at this time, It's nice to know that travel is easier, choices in clothes are getting better, and I am beginning to enjoy being active again.

Tazmani77
Sat, Mar-23-02, 13:57
Not to ever be in a dead sleep again

""I am working my hardest ever to get this weight off and restart my life. Untill I started my weight loss journey this time I was pretty much house bound. If I couldn't do it from here I wouldn't do it at all nor would I want to. I lost interest in all the things I once found so enjoyable. I isolated in my home and only entertained family. I lost touch with all my friends telling myself that it was time to move on anyway, a sick way of justifying to myself why I was pushing wonderful people out of my life. That was a very dark and empty and lonely place. I think now as I look back at it that it was a growing point for me. I needed to go through that to really see how much of this blessing called life I was wasting. God gave me a beautiful gift and I was throwing it away as if it didn't matter or at least not as much as sitting alone in the dark eating out of control. I found a way of eating that allows me freedom form that compulsion and I feel so very blessed to be able to see the light again and feel the sun on my face. It is as if a stormy cloud has passed over and allowed the brilliant sun to burst through and bath me in a wonderful blissful light called life. I can see and feel happiness again and I am so thankfull I finally woke from my dead sleep before it was too late.""

I still got a long way to go but I am on my way to life!! :thup:

texas-newf
Sat, Mar-23-02, 14:21
Donald, way to go on losing 47lbs so far !! Wicked !
I would like to know what your plan is and do you incorporate exercise into the plan ?

Some of my reasons I hate being FAT!

1) Afraid to go on long flights to exotic places because I am so big and have to sit in a small airplane seat for several hours.

2) Having to determine if a rental car is gonna me big enough for me to sit in. (I've had to go back into the office and get another a few times.... not fun at all !

3) Having limited energy to do what I really like to do - Hiking, etc.

4) Of course, the restaurant booth vs the table scenaro.. Arrggh!

5) Not have the availability of nice, classy clothes to choose from in malls.

6) Being concerned about going to the beach because of the looks people give me :mad:

7) Being in stores and having clerks ingore me as if I wasn't there.

8) Excessive sweating when it's hot... that drives me mad ...

Welll, I can go on and on and on and on... like an Ever-Ready battery about this topic.....

That's why we're all trying to lose wieght. and by God, Im gonna be in good shape again if it kills me !!

Take care and good luck everyone !
Craig

Elora Jade
Sat, Mar-23-02, 15:02
I agree with texas on the trip thing. One thing that always prevents me from going somewhere nice and warm, is the expectation of wandering around in a bathing suit (not a pretty picture!) And of course...participating in water sports (look at that fatty giggle when she runs etc etc!)

Even when we went to Europe, it was a bit awkard (NA is the place where obesity is now 50% of the population-its growing in europe but its not as common......yet) It was VERY obvious that I stood out from the crowd - well, not from the crowd of tourists who were mostly from NA!.

I really enjoyed reading all the threads, many rang very true. I read an article in the Utne Reader which is an alternative press magazine (its a great read to those of you who are bohemian academic types!) The name of the article is"Fat Nation" Our Obesity Issue is an Issue of Public Health, not Personal Virtue: Utne Reader March-April 2002 www.utne.com (it may be online)
It also has a great quote that I would like to share, and I'll be putting it on my tag, it really says it all:

"When thin actors put on a fat suit, its like when a white actor puts on a blackface....Its a simple case of "Lets all laugh at the last safe prejudice in this society."...which is fat people. (Frances White, National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance, Talk Dec 2000 )

briannajoy
Sat, Mar-23-02, 15:18
Why I Hate Being Fat

1. I feel heavy, bogged down and burdened
2. I have to worry if I'm going to break a chair when I sit in it, or if I will actually fit in it.
3. I want to throw up everytime I put a swimsuit on
4. I have cellulite
5. I hate the stares I get from people
6. I feel guilty each time I eat and when I go out to eat, I feel like people are looking at me thinking "she's fat, why is she eating"
7. I have rolls that really aren't supposed to be on my body
8. Diabetes runs in my family, and by being overweight, I greatly increase my chances of getting it
9. I have ugly stretch marks on my skin
10. I can't wear the cute clothes I want to wear, I have to buy the unfashionable PLUS size clothes (they have made strides to make more fashionable plus size clothes, but it's not the same)
11. I want to be able to run, and walk, and dance, without getting out of breath so quickly.
12. I want to be able to wear short tops and expose my belly button in the summer, without having a huge bulge where my belly is
13. People that judge me before they even know who I am, because I am fat
14. Having to feel guilty everytime I eat because I am fat
15. Going to the doctor's having to hear EVERY time "you need to lose weight"
16. Having to get weighed at the doctor's office and be reminded how fat I am
17. Because of being fat, having self esteem issues
18. Hearing skinny people complain that they are "fat"
19. Walking up stairs
20. Elevators


Gah there's SO much more! I hate being fat, and I'm not going to be fat anymore! :nono:

Tuesday marks 2 MONTHS of being on the Atkin's Diet

HOOOORAY!!! :D

Keep up the good work everyone.. I know we can do it :D

Brianna

In_Control
Sat, Mar-23-02, 15:26
Tazmani77 I was so on my way to where you are telling my you have been!!! So many times I've been tempted to tell my friends I just couldn't make it here or there. They are all thin (of course) except me. It's just getting too hard to get the kids ready and try to find my TENT FOR THE DAY, and frankly I am just really embarrased. I wonder what they say about my weight behind my back. We are all very close, but like all of us, they want to go to the beach with the kids, take the kids biking, etc. All of this is becoming too taxing on my 5'5" 245 lb frame!!!

So truly, I am so close to staying home more and just not making the playgroup dates like I use to. Gosh, it's scary when I think about how much I've let myself go. I just can't figure out why I kept going. But truly a light has come on. I realize just how disfigured I am and I want to get back to the real me.

I truly appreciated your post. I understand so very much what you said!

Ellipsis
Sat, Mar-23-02, 16:26
Okay, I'll join in!

The things I hate most about being overweight? There are many, but I'll start with a few key ones.

1) Lack of energy. This is the big one which cuts into so many things in life, the worst result being that I never can keep up on the daily things that *need* doing.

2) Lack of co-ordination. The excess weight causes my body to be unwieldy, unbalanced & inflexible (hampers many physical activities, including my sex life & my attempts to learn inline skating!).

3) Lack of confidence. My self-worth is in the toilet and I fear social interaction even though I have to be social every day at my job. My shyness & unease when I'm around people is *directly* linked to my insecurity over my weight. I know from first-hand experience that "society" holds overweight people in contempt; I'm forever dreading the next hurtful rejection or put-down (verbal OR tacitly implicit) and so try whenever possible to avoid people to circumvent the possibility entirely. I actually suffered from agoraphobia for a few years in the late 90's.

4) I hate having to wear "fat" clothes! This might seem like the least of my issues here, but good LORD am I sick and tired of shopping at flippin' Lane Bryant and Catherine's Plus Sizes and the "womens" clothing areas at other stores! I'm tired of feeling that I have to hide in baggy clothing! I want to be able to shop at "normal" clothing places that are everywhere, I want to wear fitted garments & look great in them, and ESPECIALLY I want to wear gorgeous sexy things and FEEL sexy in them!

5) I'm TIRED of being invisible to men. I want to be sexually attractive NOW, and *not* only when a guy gets to know me over the course of months or years. Again, I'm sure this may seem pretty superficial, but I'm human, NOT an android and I feel this need quite keenly. Don't assume I'm single & desperate, either...I'm neither. ;)

Well, that should do for now.


-- Nicky

odd sock
Sun, Mar-24-02, 09:13
I have to admit that I've answered this question before, posed by starchile a few months ago, but if it was good the first time, repeats don't kill....

Originally posted by odd sock
Some of my biggest HATES about being fat:

1. When you try to exercise or participate in a sport/activity, people look at you like you like you have no right to be there! :mad:

2. Clothes... BAD prices, BAD colours, BAD materials, BAD styles, that is IF you can find any! :mad:

3. Thin women in your group whining about how fat they are, making you feel as if you are an aberration! :mad:

4. Finding a BRA that fits! :mad: Sure, make 5000 bras for the flat-chested to appear to have cleavage, but try to find ONE larger size that doesn't look like it was designed by evil matrons in the 1940's??? :mad:

5. Being told, "...but you have such a pretty face." like it is the consolation prize for having a fat body! :mad:

6. Media personalities (or anyone, for that matter) who don't have a clue and feel so free to judge! :mad:

7. Being 'invisible'-- to shop staff, the opposite sex, people who think you'll cramp their style! :mad:

8. Assumptions that you are anything less than an intelligent, vivacious, sensual, active, productive, stable, responsible, and adventurous individual simply due to your size! :mad:

9. To hell with all the chairs that hurt your bottom, too small toilet cubicles, crammed-together tables, and tiny aisle seating! :mad:

10. The worst thing about being fat is the effect it can have on your self-esteem in thinking that you CAN'T do anything you set your mind to! :mad: :mad: :mad:


Phew!!!!!!!!!! :daze:
Ablution complete... vitriol gone.

What a great release! What a great idea!!!!!!

Now I can get on with it!

Thanks!

Elora Jade-- utne reader is one of my favourites! I saw that issue but didn't have time to buy. Thanks for reminding me. Another great magazine that takes on such issues (especially when it comes to women and the media) is Bitch. http://www.bitchmagazine.com/ (Sorry if this offends anyone. Yes, it is a real mag and it is the real name.) They have also dealt with the fat suit and fat bigotry in past issues. In the recent "Hollywood's Big New Minstrel Show" (issue no. 15), they trounced the movie "Shallow Hal." Made me proud.

Dina
Sun, Mar-24-02, 10:50
I hate being fat for all the reasons you all have posted :
I also hate being fat and feeling I have to hide when I eat because people are staring. Or people are looking in my shopping cart to see what I am buying.
I hate being fat because people naturally assume that you are weak and have no self control.
I hate being fat and hearing since I was a child " You have such a pretty face. but..........." As if somehow I was defective or never quite good enough.
I hate seeing my daughter heavy and knowing what she is in for. For the dances and proms she might not get to go to . For people judging her not for the person she is but for the outer package.
As far as my DH- he is a love . And amazingly he has always made me feel sexy. Even at 286. It was my own mind that made me not feel attractive. Although I must admit since he has been on this wol and has lost 50 and I have lost 60 . Romance is a little easier without both of our belly's creating a big distance between us. ;)

ldypgmr
Sun, Mar-24-02, 19:05
Yes, I am ready to be skinny and having great sex again....

Guys just don't seem to go for the X-Large variety! So I am ready to be thin and vamp them all.

:wave:

Dee

qcchevyman
Mon, Mar-25-02, 07:35
I'm just too tired of being too Short. I'm 6'6" and still weigh 567 lbs. I figure if I could just get to 13"7" that I would look Fine. But I guess that can't happen so I will be glad when I can get the next 267 pounds off then it will open a Whole New World of Freedom from my Fat Body with all of it's Handicapps it carries with it. :daze:

OKwoer
Tue, Mar-26-02, 09:53
Well, I really thought everyone would have all the hates covered, but I thought of a few more...

I hate being somewhere in public and hearing a child say something like, "Hey mom, look at that fat man." I have nothing against the child mind you, but it still hurts.

I hate being sick so often. I'm not sure others will relate to this, but it just seems that any cold or flu that comes down the pike ends up parking at my door. Is this just me?

I hate being only a spectator of sporting activities. I want to get in the game.

I hate not being able to go swimming because I don't want to take my shirt off.

I hate having 10 different sizes of pants in my closet.

I hate mail ordering clothing and it never fitting just right.

I hate driving a huge car when I'd really like to drive a sporty model.

I hate good intentioned people telling me how they lost 5lbs and how it would work for me.

I hate watching a movie and relating to the fat friend of the lead character when I actually want to be the star.

I hate hiding from cameras because I don't want to be reminded what I really look like. I hate that I'm the only one in our family who takes photos and that I'm conspicuously absent from our family photo albums and videos.

I hate that I'm not a better lover for my wife.

I hate accepting professional limits that wouldn't be there if I wasn't fat.

Well this has been a cathartic experience. You know if you just read the list, it sounds really depressing. But with each day that passes in my new WOL I gain hope and faith. As I wrote each of the items above I was and am filled with hope that these reflect my current state and are not a life sentence.

I know that losing weight does not solve all of life's problems. But there are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many reasons to look forward to where our new WOLs are taking us.

God Bless you all :)

DWRolfe
Tue, Mar-26-02, 10:14
The difference between casual posting and posting from the heart...

...is clearly illustrated by Jim's previous post. After reading it a few times (and also thinking we must have had them all covered by now) I find myself incredibly moved and sort of choking back tears at my desk. It truly touched a nerve...

I'm not only happy, but really proud to be a member of this group. That we can share so freely and openly is a very good thing. :thup:

Donald ;)

sunflower
Tue, Mar-26-02, 12:48
I am new in triple digits and I certainly hate being fat.
I went to a musical my granddaughter was in this past weekend. When I went to set down I could here the mumbles behind me about how they weren't going to be able to see around me. I was so upset
I told my kids that I thought I would go set in the back so I could have more room.
Another time I was in Wal-marts and this young boy about 7 yrs. old or so said to his mother, did you see that fat woman over there with the rings on. I was so embarrased I just wanted to get out of there.
I also hate it when people ask how much weight I've lost. They are only interested in how much I actually weighed. I've heard people say that is like losing a whole person, how can they let their self get like that.
Thanks for letting me sound off.
Sandy...Go brighten someone's day.

Victoria
Tue, Mar-26-02, 13:01
I'll jump in. I just hope I remember this all, so that when I lose the weight, I don't ever treat large people unfairly or treat them as eyesores.

I hate how people have treated me as if I were less...less intelligent, less educated, less believeable, less reliable.

I hate thinking about seating, or seat belts. I truly look forward to sitting in a lawn chair without wondering if I'm going to break it or sink into the lawn. (Has anyone had that happen?)

I hate feeling like I'm a failure. (Which is really changing, thank God, because I am finally finding victory over this lifelong problem.)

I hate the look people give me...when they are trying to figure out if I'm pregnant or just fat. My last child was almost 10 years ago...so my gut shouldn't look pregnant anymore! :rolleyes:

I hate having to think about whether I can do something physically...such as running around Disneyland. I would like to take the kids...but want to lose enough so the walking is manageable.

Well, I'm sure there's more. But losing the weight I have so far has been changing life for me. I no longer feel like I want to hide from the world. But you know people...it is good to relate to all of you. It's amazing how alone we all can feel when there are all these wonderful people here that have experienced similiar problems. Thank God we have found a way to change, a solution. Life looks better every day... ;) Victoria

DWRolfe
Tue, Mar-26-02, 14:01
I hate thinking about seating, or seat belts. I truly look forward to sitting in a lawn chair without wondering if I'm going to break it or sink into the lawn. (Has anyone had that happen?)

Yes Victoria, I've had it happen. For some reason I've always found the incident rather funny and managed not to get down on myself about it (probably because no one else was aware of it), but once I was at a fundraising party at a friend's home and the party was held on the lawn. Luncheon was served and it was rather fancy. I wanted to pull myself closer to the table during lunch and when I attempted to scoot my chair I realized that I had sunken into the lawn about 4 inches! :roll: :roll:

I hope you know that I don't mean to diminish your observations about this in any way, rather I am just sort of having a laugh at myself. ;)

P.S. congrats on those stats of yours, you too sunflower!

Donald :wave:

jesdorka
Tue, Mar-26-02, 14:06
i agree with all that has been said so far. my top ones are having the stewardess call down the plane-"a seatbelt extender for row so&so", turnstiles, web type lawn chairs and my doctor telling me i could lose weight if only i used willpower and ate properly (low fat and cals!!) :thdown:

qcchevyman
Tue, Mar-26-02, 16:00
Everybody has come up with some really good reason why they hate being Over Weight. I have just one.

I hate going to watch my 16 year old Niece Play softball and I'm sitting on the Tailgate of my Truck and she walks right by me with a Friend of Hers and she won't even lookup to say Hi to me. :(

In_Control
Tue, Mar-26-02, 16:24
Jim, your post touched me as well. Wow! When I first began this thread I did it because thinking about how much being overweight negatively impacts my life is somehow VERY MOTIVATING for me. I was worried other's might think it was too negative however. I've never been a fan of the HATE word...it's so powerfully negative and just ugly. But truthfully, I HATE BEING FAT!!!!!! And that word is the only one strong enough to communicate and for me to think about why I'm starting a new WOL!

Thanks so much for your post. And DWRolfe, I think we had the same feelings as we read that.

Sandy, I understand your plight all to well. I don't know you, and I don't know Jim or DWRolfe, but when I look into my child's eyes and I see that sweet, beautiful, and wonderfully AMAZING spirit. I realize 2 things...We were ALL little children like that (and still are in many ways) one day long ago, and we are all SWEET, BEAUTIFUL, AND WONDERFULLY AMAZING!!!! It's such a shame we live in a world that only see's the outer beauty and judge's that to be the pearl of great price. I think we all miss out from making POOR judgements instead of letting each other's true spirit enrich our lives. The other thing I realize is how much potential each of us have in our lives if we make the right choices.

Gosh, thanks guys!

Pearbear
Tue, Mar-26-02, 20:21
I hate being fat because I hate looking in the mirror and cringing...
I hate having to look in the "fat people section" for my clothes...
I hate feeling like my boyfriend is lying when he says that I am beautiful...
I am tired of hating myself! :(

Cheryl R
Sat, Mar-30-02, 15:37
Wow,
There are others out there who feel like I do. I'm so glad I found this thread. I cried as I read.... I could relate to so many...there is one more for me that I don't even really want to mention...but I will anyway. It has to do with bathing and showering and having a hard time reaching all my parts. I hate it.

Also, I hate that in the morning I can't even bend over to tie my own shoes, or bend down far enough to put on my underwear...I have to hold them with one hand and wiggle my first foot enough to get it in the right hole.

The worst for me is wanting to do things like work in the yard, just pull a few weeds or trim a rose bush... my mind will tell me I can do it, but I pootie out in the first 10 minutes.

The whole bathingsuit issue gets me too. I used to swim all the time. I know I could lose weight if I could get out and swim, but I quit buying bathing suits at the 200 pound mark. That is my main reason why I have set my first goal at 199 pounds...then I will go buy not one but three bathingsuits.... and I will wear them.

This is a forum I will come back to and read over and over again...and I will remember why I want to shed 100 pounds.

I loved reading from the guys on this thread...I just finally realized that it's not just a womans issue. Most everyone I have ever talked to about weight loss has been another woman.

Atkid
Sat, Mar-30-02, 18:53
I assure you Cheryl, us guys are as affected by the weight issue as you girls. It's an esteem issue. A health issue. A social issue. It knows no colour, class or gender boundaries. Despite the media attempting to portray weight problems as only being the preserve of the girls. We feel it too ( promise ).

My reasons. Um. A lot have been covered.

I realise we are all in the same boat.

And with our weight, it should've sank by now. But we're still going. Good for us.


1 ) Movement. In general. Losing weight benefits my all round movement in any situation. The flexibility that others take for granted is something I want.

2) Good quality of life. I'm 24. Been overweight since 5. I totally lost my childhood. No sports. Increasing your activity levels and being healthy is only part of the deal.
Sports and such activities are social. They breed bonds with your fellow man. They lay foundations. E.g. when someone asks you if you're going to a party, invite a few friends. You actually have friends to invite.

The health aspects of being overweight - that's just the tip of the iceberg.

3) Relationships. Maybe a few more of us would like to mention this. Either find one or improve the ones we've got.
I've talked to girls. I have no problem. But I can tell in their eyes that it's as far as I will ever get.
Ever had a girl talk to you out of sheer pity? I hate that. It is like we are diseased. No use saying our doctors and government advice has put us this way and we are victims. No dice.

Life is not worth living if you cannot grasp it and live it well. Each day something accomplished.

I know my problems are all connected with my weight. It is the root of all evil for me. So I have to tackle it head on.


I've lost least of anyone I know, so I can't be faulted for trying.


There are millions more reasons I could think of, given time. Many have been covered here.


But that's all what I hate.


I love :

1 ) This board
2 ) People dropping into my journal. HINT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3 ) Guys in the same boat as myself and making it happen. You all rock ( Donald, that's for you ).
4 ) You guys for openly sharing your experiences. Being fat has its universal feelings, and I can see for the first time that I'm not alone. I was the only fat kid in my group of friends. I hope I can count on you guys as my new friends. Understanding friends. You need to be in my shoes to understand, and you guys are.


Let's ditch these shoes. And get smaller clothes.


And lets's rock.



Atkid out.

juicyjacki
Sun, Mar-31-02, 06:59
This is a great thread - very interesting! A lot of what i am going to say has been said before, but here is my 2 cents:

Why I hate being Fat...

1. Stretchmarks. Hate looking at myself in the mirror naked and seeing a roadmap all over my stomach, hate having to make sure that I wear long enough sleeves to cover the ones that have creeped onto my arms.
2. Clothes. I live in Birmingham UK (the Second city in England)and there are still only 3 shops with clothes that fit me. Also the designs suck - I am 23 years old, I don't want ugly pleats, nasty flower patterns or embroidery. I would happily pay serious cash for designer clothes (Gucci, Versace) but they choose to ignore us. Whats really annoying also is getting clothes and getting home and you realise that they are on ultrahuge hangers that are too big for my wardrobe! We are blatently overcharged for these clothes too.
3. Cinema. Bugs me when i go to the Odeon that the chairs dig into my sides. Before my weight loss i actually used to sit on the stairs.
4. Excercising. People look at you disgusted when you start jumping around in a class or in a gym.
5. Acne. I used to get really bad acne. I am 23, so I know part of this is going to be my age. But in the last 6 months since I have been on atkins I have noticed my acne has really calmed down.
6. Muscle. The fact that i have very flabby arms & stomach, but my calves & thighs are really muscly from carrying around too much weight for too many years.
7. Skinny people. I get so sick of skinny people grabbing 2mm of skin and saying that they are 'fat', If they think they are truly fat then they must be disgusted by me.
8. Skinny people again. Hate being fat because I always have that niggly feeling in the back of my mind that some of my (skinny) friends are only my friends because I make them look better.
9.Vanity. I have always secretly wanted to be one of those nasty vain bitchy-types, well maybe just once in a while, at the 'right' party. It does not matter how often i get the trendy haircut, do my nails, wear flawless make-up, I won't be quite vain enough to carry it off.
10. Euphamisms. I really hate it when people are trying to be polite and justify us by giving us cutsey named defined by our weight, rather than just say we fat and we know it. Hate 'cuddly' 'fluffy', 'short for her weight' or people saying that our weight is fine because it gives people something to hang onto.
11. The looks. Hate getting the look from people when eating a meal, like we have just done something illegal. Hate the look of pity. Hate the look of superiority from super slim people who look down on us.
12. Bad design. I hate the fact they build places without us in mind. Hate turnstiles. Hate having to do that awful sideways jiggle shuffle down train & plane corridors that are too narrow.


Enough of whinging these are some of the reasons why I am happy that I have been fat:

1. I have learnt to look behind the physical attributes of a person. I truly believe that I have learnt to be open to all sorts of people regardless of colour, age or appearance, because I know the beauty of a good soul.
2. We can see back with a certain degree of arrogance at all those skinny people that 'can eat and eat and never put on weight'. One day they will wake up 45 big and fat and we can smile and say 'never mind...'
3. I have learned to curb my impulses, I am no longer a slave to sugar. I was so easily tempted before, but each time I resist naughty stuff now, I really am wowed by myself and brag about how good I have just been.
4. Love setting personal targets and goals. I have a long way to go yet, but I want to start kickboxing when I get within a stone of my goal.
5. After years of stuffing junk into my mouth thinking it was good for me, I have finally learnt what is truly is good for me.

Well I think that is enough for now i feel so much better!

A note to some of those people looking for love.......

I have always been overweight, size 16 at school, so I have no idea what it is like to be skinny. However I have always considered myself to be a sexy person. I believe that being sexy is 90% mental, 10% physical. I have never been without a boyfriend since i was 15. I have never been afraid of chatting up someone in a pub or club, and I would say I have had a 97% pulling success rate. Its all in the attitude. I would not like to give exact numbers (!!!) but i have more that my fair share of romance.

People are very insecure, with fragile souls. If you start chatting to someone they will be so thrilled because all people have insecurites which tax them 24/7. They may even be a support group out there for people who have big ears/ noses/ bad hair. Thes people are the same as us. No better. No worse.

DO NOT SELL YOURSELF SHORT

Every thread, every person that i have read about in the last 6 months is cleary an itelligent person with bags of fantastic stuff to offer anyone who is lucky enough to grab hold of you while they get the chance. Instead of focusing on all the stuff that is holding you bag, why don't you look at all the great things you have to offer. If you are already in a bad relationship that you are just 'sitting in' because you don't think you can do any better, then compare your good stuff with theirs - who is the more worthwhile person? My £100 is on you.

Sorry for such a long one guys.

ldypgmr
Sun, Mar-31-02, 18:09
Hi all

JJ I agree that there are things I have learned because I was/am fat. These lessons I will take on with me. I am sure there are also lessons I will learn when I am skinny. And I can tell you I am ready to be skinny.

Thanks....


:wave:

Dee

Thinny
Mon, Apr-01-02, 13:23
Boy, can I relate to clothes shopping (still hate it) and restaurant booths. But last month, I discovered that for the first time in several years, I can slide into a booth and not bruise my stomach! :D I haven't conquered the airline seatbelt extension thing yet, but that may be because I haven't flown for almost a year. It's possible I may not need it now. And for me, one of the worst things about being fat is that I ceased to love myself. After that, any attempts at improvement were halfhearted and sporadic. Did I mention that I am growing my self-esteem and love again? It sure colours my relationship with other people. :)

captxray
Wed, Apr-03-02, 16:00
I like the positive side of things better than the negative...just call me crazy, I don't care...1. I can now hike in my beloved Sierras and enjoy God's wilderness instead of crawling to the refigerator for another bowl of ice cream to drown my sorrows for being so disgustingly fat, 2. When people look at me, I'm not thinking they are staring at my disgusting globs of fat hanging everywhere, 3. I can see myself in one mirror! 4. I can actually see the ends of my toes when I look straight down, now! 5. I don't get winded when I climb the stairs to my office every day! 6. I feel great! 7. There is space between me and the steering wheel! 8. When I turn really fast, all of me goes in the same direction, all at once! 9. People say, "Hey! You're really losing a lot of weight!" 10. My motorcycle doesn't sink to the ground and the tires don't flatten out when I get on it, now! ....I LOVE BEING THIN (ER)!!!!!

Cheryl R
Wed, Apr-03-02, 21:26
good for you capt xray, I still need to lose first before I can do that...
I just had foot surgery so I can do more walking...I'm trying to lose as it heals...because I love walking outside, and going north to the redwoods....oh...I can't wait. I know I'm going to do it and it will be great.
but for now...it is good for me to realize all the things I hate about being fat...because it motivates me to keep going.
Cheryl
PS...why are you captxray...is there a meaning behind that? I work in an xray dept...that's why I ask...and I work for a military xray dept...so we have captains who are radiologists...and sometimes we call them capt xray or lt xray...etc.

Thinny
Thu, Apr-04-02, 08:50
Cheryl, I see that you intend to lose 10 pounds this month. What will you feel like if you don't make it? I know I cannot lose weight that fast - 5 lbs per month would have me ecstatic. So, rather than set such a goal, which for me is unrealistic, (and above all, I hate failing at something I've chosen to do ) I look at what I can achieve - like drinking more water, sticking fairly close to Induction, eating more veggies, etc. Then, if weight loss happens, I am delighted. If not, I continue on. (What choice do I have? :) I wish to keep my gains...er, losses. :D) As a side benefit, if I have been close to my goals all month and nothing budges , then I look to 1. tighten my control and 2. pursue other health issues, like hypothyroidism.
Hope your foot surgery is a complete success and you can walk and do those things that you crave doing. Best. Sandra

captxray
Thu, Apr-04-02, 15:39
Cheryl,
I am a psychotherapist and used to work in a large county mental health dept. clinic. I started writing a silly newsletter to break the seriousness and pain we all felt working with so many tragically chronically mentally ill people. One of the secretaries started calling me Captain X-Ray...my name is Ray...and stated that I would "save the world," etc. I gave her a fake Certificate of Appointment and Promotion that said she was a "Stalwart General in Charge of Everything Important in the Universe in the Captain's Endeavor to Save the Universe...etc., etc.," She hung it above her desk. Before long, I had about 20 people clamoring for their very own certificate to "prove" they were also Stalwarts of the Captain. Hence the name. We had Sergeants Corporals, Privates, Leutenants, you name it...we developed a "Captain's Corps to Save the Universe." It actually got quite out of hand. People began to talk like Batman and Robin, Spider Man, Superman. I became a Superhero of my office. There was even a superhero poster made with me in my "Captain X-Ray" superhero tight-fitting outfit...It was pretty hilarious. The name has stuck with me ever since...

Joyeux
Thu, Apr-04-02, 17:28
Everything I have read so far has touched on my own list too, but I will add :

1) I want to live - serious illnesses which resulted in weight gain, which resulted in more serious illness which resulted in....etc etc...has made me terrified to not lose weight. I want to have a healthy life here on this planet for as long as I am able to and losing weight is a huge step on that path. After having won a round of serious health problems and finally out of bed, I have a burning desire to keep on going forward. I know I will have a much better chance of winning the wars on organ failure if I am not morbidly obese at the same time. Wanting to have a better chance to live longer is the biggest motivator but...

2) I am tired of feeling ashamed and embarrassed for how I look, and very tired of hearing friends say " it's so very sad what happend to you ever since you got sick - you have to feel so terrible". I do feel terrible, but the sad part is that I should be feeling only good for having survived these health problems at all but I can't entirely because I can see the horror in the faces of friends who have not seen me in a long while. No one has been cruel, but their efforts to hide their shock has not been successful and I feel less than great. I want my friends to share in my joy at my recovering... not feel sorry for me, so losing this weight will make that possible too ;)

3) I want to feel like me again. I don't even recognize the face that stares back at me, let alone the body. I feel like "me" is imprisoned inside a body that isn't mine, so I want "me" back ;)

I have yet to be out in public , since I have only recently been up out of being bedridden, but I am sure all those things everyone else mentioned would apply also when I am finally able to get out
and those things will only serve to motivate me even more after I get over the sheer joy of being able to go out at all ;)

Joy

Kerouac_64
Wed, Apr-24-02, 22:29
New member here.....love this thread. And Its often times difficult to find other men to relate to. :wave:

My list of why I hate being fat:

1. It almost killed me. Yup. It caught up with me (Congestive Heart Failure) back in April 2001. It took me 2 hospitals and a final convelescence in a nursing home to get home after that 4 month ordeal.

2. I need to get down to my best "low" weight in order to someday get knee-joint replacements. I used to golf, play hockey walk two miles each morning. I want out of my wheelchair that I have to have in unknown seating situations outside my house. I want to stand/walk for more than 5 min. at a time.

3. Fit in an Airline seat. Being homebound/near homebound for these past three years, has me wanting to travel and see the world again someday. And booths....yeah...Dang straight!! I never want to feel the humiliation of breaking a chair at my banker's office while trying to negociate a loan!!

4. I want to look in a woman's eyes and see love, for ME, and not pity or DISGUST.

5. Regain my strength and Stamina. I want to work again, and volunteer at a nursing home to help others in need.

6. I want to deflate the mythical power that food has had over me. No more stress eating, comfort eating.

7. I don't want to die. I beat Death once....ONCE. I don't expect another free ride in that department! LOL I want to feel safe and increase my chances for the healthiest, most productive time I do have left.

tamarian
Wed, Apr-24-02, 22:37
Welcome aboard Kerouac!

I can't claim to know what it's like to be at 600 lbs, as the most I'be been was 400 lbs and some! But I'm glad you joined us, and congrats on the 78+ lbs or so lost thus far :thup: That's a considerable accomplishment!

Please keep us posted on your progress

Wa'il

fiona
Thu, Apr-25-02, 05:00
Love CaptXray and how he got his name. Love all the reasons everyone has given. They all seem to apply to me too.

My reasons: where do I start...? or finish ...?

On reflection I think I could simplify it to :

I hate being fat because it finally dawned on me that being fat means I don't love myself and if I can't do that how can I possibly truly love another or expect another to love me.

I want to live life. LIVING life means continually improving on my relationships, my activities, my abilities, my connectedness with others and with myself. Being thin(er) certainly helps. When I started I never expected to reach goal but now my self-esteem has grown and I feel I can reach it and help others to reach and maintain it.

Take Loving, Gentle, Compassionate Care.

captxray
Thu, Apr-25-02, 12:11
I just want to say, "Keep up that motivation to control your weight and to lose!!! You all have great ideas and reasons for being thin (er)...let's see some more! I am pumped...I finally lost a pound after a seven (that's 7) week stall! I know I'm on the move downward, again! YES!!! I LOVE BEING THIN (ER)!!!! My motorcycle loves it, too! Even my truck is starting to list on the left side a lot less! I might even put on my official Captain X-Ray leotard (and, of course...mask, to hide my true identity!!!) and run throught the local mall screaming how wonderful I feel as I save the universe from the GIANT FAT MONSTER OF the PLANET, "GLOB" that has surrounded our Earth in a Death Grip!

dagny
Fri, Apr-26-02, 12:30
Ok..wiping away the tears...mostly from laughter.

*tired of resenting Mom's well-intentioned comments, "The men will just fall all over themselves as soon as you lose some weight." "We'll go shopping and by you all of the prettiest clothes as soon as you are thin."

*don't want to be the sidekick. Which by the way, I take full responsibility of for putting myself in that role. I see myself as the sidekick, why should anyone else see me otherwise?

*don't want to be the friend that guys like to talk to most...about how in love with my friend they are...ugh!

*don't want to blame things on my weight that really have nothing to do with it. (Being overweight is a great scapegoat...lots of things I can blame on my weight thereby avoiding other issues)

*hate the uncomfortable, hot inside, feeling I get when in a group conversation and the topic turns toward someone's weight, the new food pyramid, the surgeon general's recommendations...anything at all even closely related to weight, health.

*dislike that when I hear somebody describe somebody else (oh, you know her, straight brown hair, works at...) my brain jumps straight to, "How would they describe me? Would they use the fat word? Chubby? The Bigger Girl?"

*don't like that I let myself off of the hook for things until I reach a certain weight

*want to feel petite

*want to stop thinking about my weight as much as men reportedly think about sex...in fact would much rather think about sex.

*hate that flying home for visits is ever so slightly tainted by waiting to see what registers in my mom's eyes as I disembark from the plane...really hate that it matters to me.

*hate being the pot that calls the kettle black when I think about my father and wish that he would do something to lose weight.

*hate that I actually convince myself that I only want a guy that will love and value me for who I am, not what I weigh...but then don't love or value myself. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

*don't like that I will have thoughts that start out as, "If I were thin I would..." Why should I wait until I was thin?

OK...I have a bunch more. But, I think I will save them for another day.

Thanks for listening to me vent.

Ivory
Sat, Apr-27-02, 14:07
Well first of all, I'm not exactly sure if I fit into the "triple digits club" but my goal weight right now is 90lbs lighter than my start weight, so I'm close enough to relate to a number of things...I found myself getting a little teary eyed reading this thread, finally people who understand! So I'll add my two cents about WHY I HATE BEING FAT:

*Shopping with thinner friends, and knowing I can't buy that sexy top because it will look terrible on me

*Getting the "standard" compliments, I want someone to just tell me I look great(I have a couple friends who do this, but one can never have too many!)

*Walking through a mall and saying "well there's no point in going in there, I can't fit into anything they sell" and doing that for a few stores, not just one

*The double standard in things like:
* skinny girls can wear a pair of sweat pants to class and look 'casual and confident' but if I did it, I would be the 'frumpy fat girl'
* my friends can order junky food in a restaurant and just be indulging but when I join them I feel like people assume I always eat like that

*I hate people assuming that ANYTHING I say/do relates to my weight.

*I hate even THINKING about my weight, I hate having to be concerned about my butt and where it is, or Constantly adjusting my shirts so that they're sitting right so I don't look fat

There are a few things to be thankful of:

1- I probably am more comfortable in my own skin than a lot of my thinner friends are, I have learned to love my body, my extra curves etc, I'm just me and who cares if I don't look like a model when I'm naked?!?

2- I am a more understanding person to others because I know what the pain of being teased as a kid is like

3- I have learned to understand that comparing myself to others just won't work...we're all different...I really realized that looking at everyone's goal weight on this forum...Some women just want to be 200lbs because that would be a lot of weight loss, some want to be 120 or even less than 100lbs (lol I think my skeleton is more than 100lbs!)

I am SOOOO proud of everyone who has weight, its a hard thing to do and people who have never had to lose a substantial amount of weight JUST DON'T GET IT! I think that this forum has been the ONE thing that has continually kept me motivated, and this time I AM going to do it, I'm not going to cop out and say its too hard, I will go shopping with friends and buy what I want to buy, I will be able to trade clothes back and forth with my friends...I will do it because I can...

Thinny
Sat, Apr-27-02, 14:32
And there are some of us who've grown past the "I just wanna look good" stage to the "if I don't, I'll die" stage. And who wants to be buried in a piano box!!?? :rolleyes: I have never been thin since the day (probably hour) that I was born. Now I am finally motivated to live a while longer. (The older I get, the faster my time cushion erodes away.) My motives are a lot different at almost 60 than they were at 30 - and my weight is, too. Now that I am at last secure in the skin I'm in, I'd like there to be less to wrinkle. I'd like to be more active w/o being killed by exercise. I'd like, just once, for my hubby to see the person I feel inside my head, not just the plump one he married over 40 years ago. I have been old in my movements for years - now I am trying to get younger as the flab departs. Feeling old decades before my time has been one of the things I hated worst about being fat. :mad:

leighamaw
Sat, Apr-27-02, 16:06
Top Ten Reasons I Hate Being Fat:

10. Can't wear corduroy slacks...the friction from my thighs slapping together would surely start a fire.
9. Could never really eat all that I wanted at a "All You Can Eat Buffett" for fear of people staring at the massive servings I could put away.
8. I am much too young to feel this damn old.
7. I don't recognize myself in pictures...surely that fat redhead is not me.
6. Sleeveless shirts. Nuff said.
5. Those bulges on my back from where my bra cuts into me.
4. I want to feel young at heart again.
3. I want to buy regular size clothing...without elastic waist bands.
2. I want to be healthy.
1. Promised my grandkids I would live to be 80.

Libbyfcr
Sat, Apr-27-02, 16:13
I just sat here and read the entire thread. Must say I am a boob and had to cry just a little.

Maybe I am lucky, I discovered my carb addiction and how to live with it before I became any heavier. My reasons for hating being fat are the same as many of you.

I want to make one comment though.... A reason to appreciate how heavy I was. I will never give you "the look", I will never treat you with less respect, I will never make nasty comments or discriminate against you. These are the things I have taken with me from my experiences as a heavy person.

I hope I never forget what it was like so that I can be a better person because of it.

Libby

rosie2
Sat, Apr-27-02, 19:37
1. I get out of breath so easy.

2. I have such a big fat stomach that it gets in the way when I bend over to garden or do any thing.

3. I miss seeing my thin jaw line I had even at 180lbs.

4. I get tired so easy.

5. I miss the size 14 I wore when I got married 30 years ago.

6. I don't want my kids to only have fat memories of me.

7. I want to feel and know it's true that my husband is proud to have me by his side when we're out in public or at a party.

8. I want to be free for ever of my constant ADDITION to sugar and chocolate.

9. I want to feel pretty when I get dress in the morning no matter what I put on or wheather I have make up on or don't.
10. I want to sleep better and feel rested when I do wake up...and not hurt when I first step out of bed.

and so on and so on.... :rolleyes:

Anya
Sat, Apr-27-02, 20:50
Boy, can I relate especially the part about catching sight of myself in a store window. Its hard to believe that the fat womyn who thinks she is gorgeous is really fat! My son is graduating from college June 13, so if only I can lost even 20 lbs. I'm so depressed right now, but reading does keep me from feeling too terrible. Thanks for everyones comments. :cry:

Ivory
Sat, Apr-27-02, 21:18
Libby, don't worry, as I said in my earlier post, I got teary eyed reading this thread too!

I have always been glad that I didn't show my weight, I look about 30-40lbs lighter than I am BUT I know how heavy I am...I've thought of a few more things I hate about being fat:

*I hate knowing I outweigh all of my friends

*I hate worrying about getting adult onset diabetes or heart disease, or having heart problems

*I hate hate hate being every guy's friend who's 'just like a sister', I want to be the one getting persued by a guy for once!

*I want my body to reflect the sensual sexy person inside.

*I hate that now that I'm getting close to 30lbs lost I don't want to tell people how many pounds I've lost because I don't want them to figure out how much I weigh

bansshee
Sun, Apr-28-02, 20:55
I have read this entire post and it is amazing how similar our experiences and problems are. All those years of feeling alone...

I have a couple to add for myself.

1. I truly hate that being fat made my entire time in grades school a living hell. I am one of the ones who has always been fat and always paid a price. School children and even some teachers were cruel. I loved learning and am intelligent (although spelling was never my strong point:). Thank goodness.

2. I hate that I wasted four years of my life with a horrible abusive person because he was the best I could do.

3. I hated thinking that second rate men, clothes everything! was what I had to get used to.

4. I hated being afraid to hang out with other fat people because of getting the "oh look, cows really do travel in herds" look.

5. I hated being afraid to hang out with skinny people because I thought I was just there because of the pity factor.

6. I hate not being able to do the high adreline activities I crave.

7. I hated getting out breath from rolling over in bed.

8. I hated not being able to perform basic hygene the way it should have been performed.

To date I have lost down from 350 to 214. I don't post my orginal weight because I lost the first half with surgery. The things I am able to do now, not to mention the wonderful man I am married to are due to weight loss. I love thinking about what else I will be able to accomplish when I hit my goal.

I am so much more than what I weigh but it will take losing a bit more weight for me to truly believe it.

H

herfields
Mon, Apr-29-02, 17:48
Rather than what I hate about being fat, I want to say what I will look forward to when I become fitter:

Wearing clothes I want to wear, and not just what fits.

Not letting my weight or fitness level being an issue in any activity in which I want to engage.

Knowing that I am living the way I was supposed to live.

Knowing that I am doing what I can do to ensure future health and well being.

Knowing that getting fitter is making my husband happier.

Anya
Mon, Apr-29-02, 18:02
I can say the words hon, but don't believe them yet. Hopefully soon....thanks for the words tho'

captxray
Tue, Apr-30-02, 10:12
Have you read Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand? That is the only other place I have seen your name. I kind of like the name, Dagny, too. Well, I'm off to spread the Good Word about LC'ing to a Fat World in my Captain X-Ray Superhero Leotard (with mask)...HA! HA! HA! I have purpose...HA! HA! HA! I am losing weight...HA! HA! HA! I am healthy! HA! HA! HA! No One can stop me...I'm on a roll...HA! HA! HA! Well, I've got to tell the entire universe about the benefits of

Low Carb, High Protein!!!

AWAAAAAY!

bansshee
Tue, Apr-30-02, 10:15
I know its off topic, but CaptX are you a fan? I have been reading Rand for years. Atlas Shrugged is one of the books I read every year.

Sorry to be off topic.

Bad fat... getting thin.... feeling great.... there, that should save this post.

H

captxray
Tue, Apr-30-02, 14:14
Well, another Ayn Rand Fan!!! Yeah! I read everything she has ever written, if and when I can get my hands on the stuff. Right now, though I'm reading Will Durant's "Story of Philosophy." Got to know how those crazies like Kant and Plato, and Bertrand Russel also thought so I can combat the "evil" they have brought into the world! Now, to keep this on topic...I'll bet they were all grain, dairy and bean eaters, anyway. AHA! I must away in my famous "Captain X-Ray" superhero outfit (and mask) to save the world from FAT (Flabby Airhead Tubbies) from the Planet "GLOB." LC! LC! LC! Hubba! Hubba!

bansshee
Tue, Apr-30-02, 14:55
Just wondering if you have a utility belt on that outfit that holds the sharp pointy stick you use to hunt for your food on the plains?

Humor is the one saving grace that has always made whatever size I am bearable.

H

captxray
Tue, Apr-30-02, 16:08
I not only have a utility belt for my "Official Spider Man-like, Captain X-Ray Web Material and Sticky Stuff" so I can climb up the sides of grass-covered Vegetarian restaurants to free the occupants therein from their own unhealthy life styles...and the sprouts, croissants, and unfathomable "Art Works" from their awful fate, and, of course, my sharp pointy stick thingy that I hunt wild animals on the plains with, but I also have my "Official Captain X-Ray Criss-Cross Bandelero Thingy" which holds all of my "Official Captain X-Ray Special FAT Absorbing Bullets" for those times when the FATs have me surrounded and are closing in! Enough small talk! I must again away...There is a signal in the clouds of Metrapo City...wait...HELLO...It's the Captain X-Ray Sign! Yes! No Mistake! I can see those outlines of the fat thighs in the clouds from here! It must be IMPORTANT! AWAAAAAAY!

Thinny
Tue, Apr-30-02, 17:21
I think B ertrand Russell was a vegetarian (who smoked!) and that sort of explains his dain bramage.:D

captxray
Wed, May-01-02, 13:01
Wow! That explains his truly weird, boring, and non-understandable blither that others of his ilk (most-likely vegetarians, too[?]) thought was profound...because nobody could understand what he was talking about...including him!

That reminds me, have any of you heard about that couple who are being charged with child endangerment for keeping their little kid on a strictly vegetarian diet and s/he almost died from malnutrition? If it does that to kids, how could it be good for anybody? Another pork chop, please! I ]love [/U] being thinner and healthier all of the time!

I've got to go buy new pants...these are falling off...even with a belt! I love this! Even though getting a new wardrobe every month is getting a little expensive...Walmart, here I come!

pepper
Wed, May-01-02, 20:45
Beautiful, Dee! Your attitude is why you will succeed! My ex-husband left me for a "better" model. Now that the weight is coming off and I'm fixing my life, he wants to come back. Lol! Not on his life! I have someone who fills my needs now and treats me with a great deal more respect than the ex ever thought about giving. I'm having to buy new clothes and I'm doing the makeup and hair things. Every time I chalk up another five pounds, I treat myself to some new little makeup treat. Fingernail polishes, creams, home facials, whatever I feel like doing--within my budget of course. I hate being fat because it keeps me from being who I was meant to be. It doesn't fit my personality at all! And this thing that fat people are supposed to be so jolly, who's idea was that? Other people try to impose the thought of what a fat person should be and how they should act. I'm not a person who has no control, just a person who has a different metabolism than others. I hate being fat because it keeps me from enjoying who I am inside, because I'm so worried about the outside. And I don't want my children to be ashamed of me. Keep writing!

pepper

pepper
Wed, May-01-02, 20:48
Not sure what happened but my last post was supposed to go somewhere else. Sorry!

pepper

In_Control
Thu, May-02-02, 10:12
I just had to post another reason I "HATE" being fat.



B A T H I N G
S U I T S :eek:



Nuf said!!!! :mad:

Eadreel
Fri, May-03-02, 10:15
I hate being fat because:

1. I can't shave my legs

2. I don't like having sex with my DH

3. I don't like going out in public

4. I choose where I sit in class based on if people can get around me

5. My thighs are rubbed raw all the time

6. I don't have any friends (too self conscious)

7. Shoes I love don't fit anymore

8. Look bad in a swim suit at the beach every summer

9. Terrified I will die young like all the women in my family

10. I want to have kids, but can't because I am already too fat.

11. Was skinny until 7 years ago...............

12. Don't like going home owning to the ensuing fight over food, weight, and related issues with my mother.

13. Want to hear from DH "You are so beautiful" instead of the generic "I love you" when we finish

14. I want to sky dive and be so light that I get more airtime!! And not be the first out of the plane...bigger goes first....balance of plane.

15. Not have to worry about a plane's seat belt fitting, or for that matter, in a friend's car.

16. Be able to wash clothes with out air drying them to stretch them out while drying.

17. Wipe my *** without becoming a contortionist.

A long list, and my first......now I really know.
Thanks guys. A big eye opener for me to list some of the reasons

Nicole

P. S. I also had to cut my great grandmother's diamond engagement ring off my finger!!!!!!!

captxray
Fri, May-03-02, 11:22
Eadreel! Those are some really good ones...kind of hit home in a number of ways. Thanks for sharing.

Soooo.... maybe that's why I cease to get the respect I am due when I put on my "Official Captain X-Ray Superhero Leotard" and run, at breakneck speed (rumbling in my flab) across Metropo City to save the people of the world from the dreaded bastions of evil from the planet "Glob," FAT.

In_Control
Mon, May-27-02, 14:27
Just had to add one more....

Now that I've lost some weight, I realize just how much better I feel. And I know as I continue, it will only get better. Why do I hate being fat? Because it's painful! Emotionally yeah! But mostly physically painful. I picked up two 15 pound boxes of detergent yesterday and took them upstairs and it dawned on me. Dang....I use to carry around an extra 30+ pounds EVERYDAY! It was hard enough carrying those boxes upstairs...I use to carry it around all day.

Painful. I can't wait to feel even better in the upcoming days, weeks and months.

:)

dagny
Mon, May-27-02, 19:04
Have you read Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand?
As a matter of fact, I am in the middle of reading Atlas Shrugged right now. Amazing, amazing book. In fact it is such a good book I have spent all of my spare time reading it...hence my not checking this thread earlier to see that you had posted a question to me. Sorry for the late response.

Dagny

ldypgmr
Mon, May-27-02, 19:54
OK...so at 250+ pounds you know I am BIG! But for some people they just don't see you, hear your and don't care to know you...

Yet the sleeze ball that you are sitting with (hasn't brushed their hair or teeth for days) has lot of people coming up to talk to them.

That I hate!

Dee

:wave:

DWRolfe
Tue, May-28-02, 09:14
Oh, to weigh only 250 pounds...

Dee, maybe it was easier for those folks to approach the dirty toothed person sitting next to you because she wasn't exuding the pride and confidence that you are now!

Donald

Frodo2001
Tue, May-28-02, 10:57
There are so many reasons that I hate being fat but right now the biggest reason that I hate being fat is that every time my nieces or nephews (they temporarily live with me) get mad at me, they say I'm a fat this or a fat that. I think it's emotionally harder when your family verbally attacts you, and it really cuts me to the bone. :tears:

In_Control
Tue, May-28-02, 15:49
Frodo2001, I don't know your entire situation, but it sure sounds very kind of you to have your neices and nephews living with you! I'm sorry they do not recognize your generosity.

However you can be sure that they see the success you've had with this WOL and certainly that is having a great impact on teaching them preserverance and goal setting.

Perhaps you are even helping to shape their young lives to become more tolerant and compassionate of others weaknesses...whatever they may be. You are playing a big role in their lives right now and you should be commended.

I know its tough, but keep up the great job and hang in there!

ldypgmr
Tue, May-28-02, 17:39
Thanks Donald for the kind words. I really appreciate them. I hope I don't grow blinders as I grow thinner.

Frodo, It is the people who are close to us that can hurt us the most. I feel for you. Keep in mind that no one likes change...especially when someone start improving themself while others around them stay at the status quo. I am dealing with this with someone at work. I tell myself that the other person is being petty and is jealous. Keep on track sooner or later (hopefully sooner) your weight loss will become status quo and the family will quiet.

Dee

:wave: :wave:

captxray
Tue, May-28-02, 22:46
Today I made a big mistake. I took my bike the eight miles to work (third time in three days) and forgot my belt with my packed clothing. All day long I was pulling up my pants and people were making comments about needing a smaller pair of pants...they are the smallest I have! Actually, even though there were some crude and rude comments made about me, it was kind of encouraging that some people noticed how much thinner I'm becoming. But, you should see me in my old (18 years old!) triathalon biking clothes! I look like an overstuffed bratwurst that's been cooked on the grill and is ready to explode...some people even laughed at me from the confines of their cars...HA! At least I was out there doing it!

LC_Dave
Thu, May-30-02, 06:41
Good for you cap!

I am jealous that your clothes are loose!

Mine are soo tight at the moment :(

LC_Dave
Thu, May-30-02, 06:45
I am very heavy, and one thing that I have noticed is how I feel.

I never 'feel' good. I'm not talking emotional highs, I'm talking physical high.

Now that I have gained all this weight, my body has less feeling in it.

I am 26, and shouldn't be experiencing forms of impotence, but my sex drive is rock bottom.

I gotta get out of my body!

LC_Dave :(

In_Control
Thu, May-30-02, 07:13
Hang in there Dave! I felt soooo bad just 9 1/2 weeks ago. I mean, my body was yelling at me. Everything hurt. I wobbled! I mean I had a hard time walking, especially in the morning. And I didn't feel like doing anything.

Read DRWolf's posts about how good he feels! And he looks amazing. He's such an inspiration to all of us. You look adorable in your post pic. --- so just imagine, in a few weeks you'll be feeling GREAT again.

It's incredible that in such a short time I feel so good. And you are so young. A big bonus for you. I know after 2 - 3 weeks on Atkins I felt a complete difference. You will too.

Good luck.

DWRolfe
Thu, May-30-02, 08:10
OK, LCDave...now I have to do my bit as a Mentor....

The decision to make a full on commitment to LCing can only be made by you, for you. I know this all too well. And judging from your recent posts regarding "frame of mind", I know that you know this too.

I also know that you attempted Atkins several months ago and that you did not run a full and successful Induction...which led to more problems with the WOE and then you disappeared from the forum.

Lately, you've dropped in on us again here and there and clearly things are not getting better for you in this regard. Your stats are up, you're not feeling well, you have no energy and even your sex drive has bottomed out. I'm speaking to all of these things because I have dealt with all of these isues myself. And I have about 16 years on you, so my aches and pains were even worse! Still I chose to deny.

When you finally hit bottom, we're here to help you. If you'll just get organized, pick up some suppliments and plan for a clean 2 week Induction, you WILL feel better and be on the road to better health! Those pants that are uncomfortable (you know they are) will become so loose that you'll need something smaller. You'll have more energy, confidence and your sex drive will reappear.

Will this all happen over night? No. But I'm willing to bet that if you make a commitment to yourself and give this WOE even just 2 months, you'll find yourself feeling SO much better.

But understand, I'm talking about TOTAL commitment. I don't care if you have an office party to go to where food will be served. Or any other social engagements that might trip you up. If so, plan for them. Educate yourself, Prepare. Start shopping wisely and planning in advance....let nothing get in your way.

I hope you don't mind that I posted this in a public forum. But we need to get you back to posting in your journal so we can all offer encouragement and more personalized support.

Think it over. I suspect you're worth the effort.

Donald

P.S. And BTW, there are many other men in this forum who have lost as much or more weight than I have. Look at szar, zoom, ketosis kid, captxray, dankar just to name a few...

qcchevyman
Thu, May-30-02, 08:30
Hi Dave I hope you come to this Forum.

First off we have missed you, but are glad to see you Posting again.

Like Donald said it takes a Major comitment in our lives to change. I have a lot of Issues I'm dealing with right now, so I have to get back on track.

The reason I hate being over weight is when I get up in the Morning I Feel Like Crap. When I go to bed at night. I Feel Like Crap. Being over 500 pounds and with a Bad Back really Limits me to a lot of things I would Love to do with my Family that I just can't do.

I've Dropped around 40 pounds so far and i realize I have a Long way to go, but I know I can do it. When I go to a Family event and I know there will be a lot of Carbs at the meal were going to have "Such as a Birthday Party" I will eat before I go. That really seems to help get through it.

Just Remember Dave you have a Ton of Friends here that want to be there for you at anytime. Take Care and God Bless

captxray
Thu, May-30-02, 09:35
LC Dave! I second what has been said by DWRolfe and qcchevyman. It's taken me almost nine months to lose this fifty or so pounds. I feel so much better, I can't begin to tell you how good it feels. I'm fifty five. When I was thirty-seven I went on Weight Watchers, even became a lecturer, and lost 117 pounds in a little over a year. I've learned that this WOE is better for me than the low fat way, so I've done my body a favor by going back to the basics of human nutrition. My body metabolism has slowed tremendously since then. I got into triathalons and was a true athelete for about three years. Then, I quit being vigilant and it slowly crept back up to where it was nine months ago. I still have about fifty-five more pounds to go. It isn't hard, anymore, but I still must remain vigilant and committed. When you feel tempted to take "just that one bite" of a forbidden food, remember how much better you will feel about yourself when the wieght is down and your pants are falling off (like mine!)...when the reason you need a belt is to actually hold your pants up! I am not here to tell you what WOE to go on. That is strictly up to you...Atkins is a major improvement to the lives of millions of people, worldwide. Now the big "however." However, the reason I went on Neanderthin (or a paleo diet) is because there is no counting, no measuring, only eating leafy green veggies, nuts, seeds, meat, fish, berries, fruit, and extra virgin olive oil...a few other things are allowed to make your diet interesting, but that's about it. It is so simple...not much thinking is involved. Because of its simplicity (not necessarily easy, just simple), there are much fewer tempations and the cravings leave in about five to seven days...no cravings!...for anything except a good salad or a piece of fruit. NO KIDDING!

The main thing about this, though, is to stick to whatever plan you chose and the weight will begin to come off. Nine months seems like a long time to me to lose fifty pounds. However, I've lost fifty pounds! That's about, what (?), 5 1/2 pounds a month...about a pound a week...not much in the short run, but looking back...a lot, now! I figure I have at least a year to lose the rest of the 107 pounds total (57 pounds, now). But, what difference does the time actually make? This is a Way of Eating, not a "Diet." It is a Way of Life. I will never go back to my old WOE...NEVER! It's a mindset! When you are truly committed, you will just "feel" it. You will "know." Remember, once the weight is gone, you will want to keep it off. That's the "Way of Life" part. Otherwise, you will be like I was and it will come back and you will be even more unhealthy than you are now...I talk from experience...For about 45 of my 55 years, I have been a perpetual dieter, rarely losing weight, but being miserable about my weight. NO MORE!

captxray
Thu, May-30-02, 09:57
I just thought of a couple more things...think of the fat loss as if it were butter...or margarine...each pound of fat is equivalent to four cubes of butter, or two tubs of margarine! That means I could have four hundred cubes of butter up against the wall, stacked up, for my fifty pounds! Or how about 100 tubs of margarine against the same wall?! That's a LOT OF FAT!

Another thing...my brother gave this advise to me when I told him I had "tried" to do Atkins 3 times before and it never really worked. He said, "Ray, you will need to make a commitment to stay on the diet for at least 90 days...if no weight loss in the 90 days, then maybe it isn't for you and you should see your doctor." I decided to take his advise and challenge. In the the 90 days I had lost about 20 pounds! Not spectacular, but 20 pounds less than I weighed when I started. I've been on very long plateaus...the last one has been over twelve weeks..actually, during that time, I lost only two pounds...but, it's still coming off...very , very slowly. So what? I'm never going back to my OWOE, so it will come off eventually. Commitment...if you look at it like a "diet" you will probably fail. You will probably succeed if you change your mindset to this being a WOE and a WOL. This "advice" does me good, too. It puts my WOL back into perspective to ME. I get discouraged, too. Thanks for being there to ask the questions and participate. Even DWRolfe needs our inspiration. Otherwise, he wouldn't be posting on this site. Right, everybody?

suzy3766
Thu, May-30-02, 12:56
My reasons for why I hate being fat....

1. I go to a convention every yr and every yr I cannot sit in those darn lil chairs. I am so very uncomfortable. So this yr, I will not only fit in those lil chairs but will be comfortable...

2. The feeling of not being good enough to have nice clothes.
3. The worry of weight limits when i enter and elevator or go on a ride. I always find myself mentally adding up everyones weight, just to be on the safe side.
3. wearing a bathing suite..omg. need i say more.
:(

LC_Dave
Fri, May-31-02, 08:25
Thanks everyone, for your kind and encouraging words!

Yes, I ahve been struggling mentally with all this for the last 6 months.

I'll keep you all in touch with my attempt at Atkins.

And I'll come back to the board for more inspiration!

Dave

Thinny
Fri, May-31-02, 09:53
So there are no magic pills or potions,Dave, no precision methods that will blast the weight off you. But that doesn't mean you are doomed to a life of deprivation. All hype aside, a ketogenic diet is the best most of us will ever do. Sure it involves lifestyle changes - not mere cosmetic time-limited changes that will peel off x number of pounds so that we can go back to digging our graves with our teeth. But reluctance to do so goes right back to that nasty "deprivation" attitude. Let's get one thing straight...being deprived of the things that made us fat, angry, depressed and ill is a blessing, not a curse! But we have been so brain-washed by commercial advertising, our tastebuds so perverted by decades of carbohydrate overload, and our bodies turned into carb-craving blobs, that we can't see ourselves succeeding w/o our favourite foods. And we love them all! Wrong mindset. Get a couple good lc cookbooks and drool over what you can have. Learn to cook, and you won't be helpless. (Hey, many of us had to learn, even at an advanced age, to cook certain things from scratch. :)) Best wishes, Dave, you CAN do it.

captxray
Fri, May-31-02, 10:13
Dave! Change the mindset...you're not "attempting" to do Atkins, you're "doing" Atkins. When one makes an "attempt," what, in fact does that mean? "I attempted to climb the mountain." Does that mean that you just looked at it? If you actually began to scale its' sides, you didn't "attempt" to climb it, you climbed it! You may not have reached the top, but you still climbed the mountain. Do you see what I'm talking about? Often, it's the very subtle, almost unnoticed things we say and do, that defeat us. Today, you're on the Atkins WOE and WOL. Do it for 90 days, and I can guarantee that you will lose weight and feel much better about yourself (mind and body). If you "fall off the wagon" a few times, so what? This is a Way of Life...LIFE... Just get right back on. Don't beat yourself up about it. Face it. Like the rest of us, you're a "carboholic." Besides, the deeper into this WOE you get, the less difference it will make if you "fall," once in a while.

Thinny is right. Get a couple of good LC cookbooks and teach yourself to cook. That way, when a craving starts, you can take the time to get out the book, read a recipe, and make the concoction...all of that takes time...and the preparation takes your mind off your craving and helps to set your mind to a healthy choice. Another thing to do, is to take water with you, wherever you go. Whenever you get a craving, take a swig of water...it really does work to alleviate that craving for a small time...besides, you'll be irrigating your system of toxins, and hydrating yourself, to boot! Recent research shows that overweight people are usually more dehydrated than non-overweight people. They think they are hungry when, in fact, all they really need is water! Pure water...not diet soda, or lemonade...or even tea...Pure water. Our systems got so polluted with toxins, and so mishaped by carbohydrate cravings that we forgot about the one most-necessary ingredient in our bodies...pure water.

alice 2002
Fri, May-31-02, 20:21
Hi, all, I totally agree with all your reasons why we are hating being fat..... I know I experienced most if not all of those things, and yes, felt that horrible sinking feeling inside.

So, I thought I would add some of my personal reasons why I hate being fat.

My main reason for losing weight, is my health. I have asthma, and now am facing taking medication for high cholesterol.

I know my weight has not helped the asthma, and definately hasn't helped the high cholesterol.... and no other diet has changed any of that.

I also, really hate the shock of a glance in a window or mirror, and seeing a person that I don't really feel is me.

I wish all the best and the strength to continue with LCing and success to all. Thank you for your inspirations

shelxland
Sat, Jun-01-02, 15:20
Let's see...


1. CLOTHES!!! :p I have really cute jeans from before I had kids that I will fit into again. I want to love clothes shopping with the girls again!

2. Energy :hyper: ... I want to run with my kids and play baseball and coach soccer and all that stuff!

3. My husband :rheart: ... I worship the man. He loves me no matter what and doesn't care what I do or don't do, look or don't look like. He wants me to be happy.



Shelley

canuckchic
Mon, Jun-10-02, 00:43
well i guess my biggest reason is my appearance inside my head doesn't match the reality.I see myself in the mirror(i avoid them mostly)and am shocked and depressed. :( I keep saying things like;i used to be a knock-out.I want to be that again. I want to be a clothes horse.I want to enjoy my middle and old years.I want to look sexy again.I want people to stop saying she's fat BUT she's got a nice personality.I want to be taken seriously for who I am. The weight (in skinny people's eyes) diminishes all that I am and all that i hope to be !

Marie :p

Topazmom
Mon, Jun-10-02, 08:00
Why I hate being fat, and why I want to be thin....

1. I can't wear my original wedding band that I got married in
6 years ago, and that breaks my heart.

2. I want to be able to take my 1yr old and 3 yr old to the park
and play without feeling like I 'm going to die of heat exhaustion!

3. I try to be stylish and it is so hard when you have to buy fat
clothes.

4. I want to have wonderful, passionate sex with my husband
like we used to.

5. I don't want to have to buy bras from a web site called
Biggerbras.com! (no kidding)

6. I want to shave my legs with out wondering if I missed
something on the back of my expansive thigh!

7. I work in a very busy deli/pub, and I want to wait on customers
without them thinking I eat everything on the menu everyday.

8. I want to love myself as much as I love my children and
my husband.

9. I want to go back to college and not be embarassed to
give speeches etc....

10. I want to be healthy.

In_Control
Tue, Jun-11-02, 08:32
Thanks for your post. I added another one to my 75 reasons (now 76) why I hate being fat list. My ring doesn't fit either. It's nothing fancy, just a gold band. But the sentiment behind that gold band...it should be on my finger! And it will be.

You're doing the right thing with your new WOE. Congratulations. We will both wear those rings again!

darrklove
Tue, Jun-11-02, 11:50
Why do I hate being fat?

I hate the fact that I have to live the way I do...

Things that come second nature to other folks is always such a big freakin' production if you're big...

I can't cross my legs...

I hate my legs in shorts...

I'm usually the biggest one in the room regardless of where I go...

I hate elastic...

Conversations about weight always make me feel selfconscious...

I pay more for my clothes than a slim person...
And incidentally, where exactly is it written that clothes for big girls must have at least one flower, animal, sequin, or buggle bead, or be other wise "bedazzled" in some way???

What else is there to say? Being fat is a drag.

~thanks for listening~


oh, by the way...is it just me, or is DWRolfe a cutie ? :blush:

canuckchic
Tue, Jun-11-02, 12:50
He definately is a hottie!! :D :thup: :roll: :spin:

captxray
Tue, Jun-11-02, 16:05
:blush: Whoa! DWRolfe! Watch out!

kellyp
Fri, Jun-14-02, 20:41
Boy, I agree with just about all the posts so far! I just came back to this site yesterday after trying it for a short while in January. Frustration and humiliation made me stop coming. I felt like a loser. I am feeling alot better about things now and I hope and pray my motivation stays fired up! I wanted to tell you why I HATE BEING FAT, but so much of it has already been said....I hate mirrors SO much. I too have trouble coping with the fact that the woman in the mirror is REALLY me...It doesn't "look" like I feel....the woman in the mirror has a swollen, marshmallowy face. It's almost like I AM wearing a fat suit. I wish I could shed it! I also hate becoming breathless so easily. That is SOOOOO embarassing. A flight of stairs or trying to keep up with a thin persons pace walking somewhere... I hate worrying about my health at 35. I hate not being able to play a full game of baseball with my kids. Knees and lungs don't allow that. I also agree with the ones who mentioned asking for a table instead of a booth. I can fit, but it wouldn't be pretty. Oh, boy, could I go on... :daze: I don't want to seem like I hate life. I love it. I have a great husband and wonderful kids. I am blessed. However, I'd enjoy all this much more if I were in shape. I want to wish each and everyone of you good luck with your WOE. My prayers are with you all. I need all I can get too!

Kelly

Claudine29
Sat, Jun-15-02, 01:49
:cry: I hate being fat because of all the reasons before (I read everyone with tears in my eyes)........But the #1 reason why I hate being fat is because it hurts . I am sure that you all experience this pain on a daily basis. It hurts so much to experience all these "side effects" of being over weight. It hurts my soul, it hurts my spirit , it hurts my heart. It hurts that people don't see me as a real person. It hurts that they can't see that I am wearing a $200 outfit, that am carrying a "TOMMY" purse and that I have on KSwiss tennie shoes. It hurts that they don't notice that I spent an hour on my hair and makeup. Would they notice if I had the 1 kt diamond on my finger. Do you think that they might try to start a conversation with me while we stand in line or are waiting in a lobby or waiting room etc....NO, NO, NO, NO!!!!You see I am from another planet. The "FAT" one. Worst of all I bet that they could care less that I am smart and I have big heart, that I love animals and I am probably the best freind that they could ever have. Do they care that without knowing them and regardless of what they looked like that if they stopped me out on the street and needed my help, I would be willing to lend them some money or give them cables or loan them my cell phone. Do they notice that I have three gorgeous kids and that my husband is a handsome man. Now don't get me wrong. I speak not of the people that are our friends and our family who love us no matter what. I am talking about the Uneducated person that Whispers behind our back, or even in front of our faces. They think that since we are from another planet we don't know what they are talking about or don't care. I bet they don't even know that when I lose weight and they find out that I am from earth I will befriend them and help them. You see they must be in pain as well, they too are from a different planet, the "UNEDUCATED" one.
No more pain is my goal! For me and for them! :wave:

canuckchic
Sun, Jun-16-02, 11:25
:cry: Hi All,

Very well said Claudine ! Your post has me bawling (it touched me ). I needed that very much. You see, I went off the WOE on Friday. Iwas so sick on Thursday and Friday that I chickened out :bash: . Sigh, such is life. Your post has given me the reminder of all I have to gain by losing. I am back in the battle once again thank-you so much !



Marie :wave:

Victoria
Mon, Jun-17-02, 10:18
Claudine,
I am touched by your post. I know how you feel. But I wonder...has being overweight actually made us better people...more caring, tolerant, loving? I hope so. I know this isn't necessarily on topic. And I don't wish "fatness" on anyone, but I wonder if this affliction has made us better people. Instead of the uneducated and shallow people that do make comments behind our backs. Just a thought. Victoria

We are here for you and hope for success in your low carb journey. ;)

darrklove
Mon, Jun-17-02, 10:31
:cry:

VictoriaT
Mon, Jun-17-02, 11:20
I agree with everyone on here. The reasons I hate that I am fat is...

1. I worry I wont be able to walk down the aisle with my Dad and have us both fit for my wedding.

2. I worry I am going to have a heart attack every night when I go to sleep.

3. I cant find ANYTHING nice to wear.

4. I hate that people judge me as some fat girl who cant stop eating rather than someone who is lost, desperate to change and emotionally torn over eating and gaining weight.

On a more positive note:
Being overweight since I was 15 has taught me....

1. To be a TRUE friend
2. To have a sense of humor
3. To strive in other areas, such as my job--yes maybe it was compensation, but I am now Dr Compensation! :D
4. To love from the soul, not someones looks.
5. To develop a personality that is deep and many folds--like Shrek says--I am an onion!!!

Although I dont feel up to par in the weight arena, I feel like I am a very good friend. I NEVER miss a birthday, I ALWAYS send an email or card when needed, I ALWAYS listen and I LOVE with no regret.... :rheart:

The other day, my soon to be sister in law came over. It was really funny...I had a ton of recipe books out all over the place and tears rolling down my cheeks. She said-I knew you werent perfect! I said why because I have to lose 100 lbs? She said--no because your recipe cards arent cut perfectly from the newspaper HAHA I know it sounds corny, but I really do have a wonderful support group in my fiance and his family. Now, my OWN family--I guess they will come around someday.

I want to change my appearance and self-esteem issues, but I wont want to change my heart.

Thinny
Mon, Jun-17-02, 11:44
One would hope that we, because of our suffering snide remarks and downright hurtful actions by others for so long over our weight, will be paragons of tolerance and empathy towards others. And some of us are. But unfortunately, it seems to me that some of the most intolerant of fat people are those who once filled our ranks. I don't know whether looking at us causes them flashbacks to the pain they once suffered , or whether they figure that if hopeless cases like themselves could work hard and lose the weight, that anybody can; therefore, those that don't really are lazy and undisciplined. :thdown: But I do know that those who learn to love themselves at any weight are far less judgemental than those who are never happy with themselves and others. :rolleyes:

VictoriaT
Mon, Jun-17-02, 11:48
Thinny
You are so right. Its like people who used to smoke 2 packs a day and quit-and now they are the biggest advocate against smoking.

Whever I have lost weight-let me count the 123123 of times---and I would see someone who was really heavy, I would actually empathize with them. I KNOW how it feels. I waited in line one hour once at Great ADventure to go on the batman ride only to find out my butt wouldnt fit in the seat!!!

I found that when I am at my worst, I tend to be critical of myself AND others. I guess since I am unhappy I try and find reasons of what everyone else is doing wrong. About 6 months ago, my fiance laid this out to me and had me think about it. ITs true--you are correct. I am TRYING so hard to love myself at this weight-but I have to be honest-its very tough. But I do know when I am happy, I am more positive and less judgmental....

Sorry for the ramble...I guess the bottom line is I see your point.

chbbybnny
Mon, Jun-17-02, 13:36
I agree with everyone on here....especially Victoria T. We all hate being fat, that is a complete given. Being fat has many many many drawbacks, but honestly is not 100% bad.

Why I hate being fat....
**I don't have any nice clothes
**I look pregnant sitting
**I look pregnant standing
**I hate being judged
**I hate being stared at
**I hate being talked about

What being fat has taught me....
**Tolerance
**To love in a totally different way
**To look at the hidden beauty in the world
**To strive harder in other areas of life
**To be a better person
**To be strong

I have so learned that looks aren't everything. I am a beautiful, caring, loving, compassionate, strong, dependable, quick witted, intelligent woman. I would not wish fat on anyone, but honestly it has taught me a lot about who I am inside, it has let me define my beliefs. It has taught me to accept others without judgement, it has taught me so much that I am sure I haven't even learned yet.
I am losing weight now, for the first time in my life. But I would not change my past, I would not go back and be a skinny. I love the person I am, and would not give that aspect up for the world.

Question.....What are you most looking forward to when you are thin? :roll:

Take care everyone!!

canuckchic
Mon, Jun-17-02, 14:11
I hear so many folks saying that looks aren't everything....and that's true. It sounds to me though that this is being said in a self-deprecating way. We are all beautiful fat or thin. I don't like being fat ..but I am still beautiful ...looks and all.

The thing I'm most looking forward to as a skinny is a good night's sleep. I wake up in the morning now (with whatever part of my body I had been sleeping) on in huge amounts of pain.



Marie :wave:

Thinny
Mon, Jun-17-02, 14:15
VictoriaT, one thing I have noticed about being fat - I tend to blame everything wrong in my life on overweight. Or at least, I used to. Now I accept that I have to change my thinking - sometimes things just happen. That's life. It helps when you see that thinner people also suffer "the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune." :) I also am aware that some hateful people seize on the most hurtful things they can think of to humiliate others - and overweight makes us an easy target. But now that I'm older (overripe, even:)), I recognize that they are the people with the problem...I'm just fat, they're horrible! And then (trite saying alert!) I count my blessings. I am acceptable at any weight as long as I'm a loving kind individual , to my God, my family, friends and yes, even strangers. Victoria, if you can see that, and know it's true, your weight will not be near the problem it is now. Trust me on this. I have been fat since Day 1, but have a loving hubby (doesn't prevent me from wanting to choke him on occasion , though), loving kids (ditto), close friends, and hope for the future. And now, I am lighter than I've been for 30 years, and my slow weight loss continues. It's all in the attitude. And low carb.:D Sandra

VictoriaT
Mon, Jun-17-02, 14:19
Hi Sandra
I like the overripe comment ;) ;)

You are correct-its all in the attitude. Im trying.

One thing that always reminds me of how thin isnt everything (or money) is...... HOLLYWOOD.
Look at the divorce rate there! They are all thin, have millions and still arent happy. I am trying to be happy with myself and learn to love myself at any weight...its just tough!!!!

Thanks for the words though- :daze: It will make me think from now on.

kellyp
Mon, Jun-17-02, 22:27
What am I looking FORWARD to when I'm thin???? Wow, Chubby Bunny, what a fun question....Oh boy, don't we all think about that day? I daydream about it, I go to sleep thinking about it sometimes. I pray about it. What I am looking forward to when I achieve my goal:

1. being comfortable in my body, not crowded. Now, if I have
to bend over while seated, I barely make it :blush: , it's a
struggle, truly. Flexibility would be so cool.

2. Shopping for cute clothes!!!! So exciting!

3. Being able to play ball with my children the "right" way.
Most over-weight parents can probably identify with this.

4. going to the movie theater and fitting comfortably in the
center seats, pop in cup holder, not my hips :p

Good luck with your weight-loss & have fun with this question!

Thinny
Mon, Jun-17-02, 22:40
What would I like to do when I get thin? Hmmmm...
1.Sit in my hubby's lap w/o worrying about his legs needing subsequent amputation.
2. Being able to squat to pull weeds in the garden, instead of
doing the old Granny peekaboo bend. (Can see up to Holy Cow!!!)
3.Feeling my whole body come to a stop when I do, not jiggle on past.:D
4. To feel like a 25 yr-old for the first time in my life. (Missed it the first time - felt like 90.) Sandra

kellyp
Tue, Jun-18-02, 06:04
:lol: Sandra, you had me rolling with laugher. I like your sense of humor. But it is all so true, isn't it! I never had my hubby carry me over the threshold on the wedding night because I was worried I would damage him. And that's TWICE, because we just remarried in March (our first was 1986 and I Thought fat was 190#). Boy what I would give to be that now. And the squatting position, haven't seen THAT since high-school. When I roll with laughter-my body gets carried away also, so I can sympathize. ;)
Anyway, I appreciate your thoughts, they made my morning brighter! Anybody else?

darrklove
Tue, Jun-18-02, 07:22
Is it just me, or is anyone else here afraid of ending up with some crazy looking saggy-baggy-skin-suit after the weight is gone? It's a retarded fear to have, but since we're all being honest here, I just thought I'd put it out there.

I'm 300 lbs and I want to be 130. I can exercise as much as I want, but still, I know not all the skin is gonna shrink back...

What then? Surgery??? I'm not sure why I'm even posting this right now. All I know is that with each passing day, I grow more and more resentful of the fact that I have to live like this.

(I tend to rant, so stop me if I start buggin' you. lol.)

Back to my question...

Is anybody else concerned about the flab factor?
:Puke:

Thinny
Tue, Jun-18-02, 08:21
Sure, because I is flabby right now. However, unlike you, I am "proud" of my wrinkles and admire them every day. :D Why? Because they are proof visible that my packed sausage body is shrinking. (And I used to be proud of how firm my skin was - didn't realize at first that it was because the fat was packed solid in there. :rolleyes:) OTOH, one can admire the saggy skin only so long. By using the Celtic salt Watercure for a couple of months, (WatercureII.com) the extra chin I sported has firmed considerably. And since I've lost 75 lbs with virtually no exercise (not recommended, BTW), I've just started Bodyflex by Greer Childers, since she promises that sticking to her program will reduce inches w/o dieting. That includes tightening up the "extra suit." :) However, those like me that have or need to lose an entire 'nother person will probably need surgery to tighten up . But as I still need to lose 60-75 lbs and am proceeding slowly, maybe Greer will save me from a skin that has buddy room.:) Sandra

B-flyRose
Mon, Jul-15-02, 04:42
I am new to this forum, but I have enjoyed what I have read so far. Most of my reasons for wanting to be thinner are the same as everyone elses.
While I could not begin to get thinner until it was no longer an issue, there are some things I am definately looking forward to:


1. Not having to wait to use the Handicap Stall in the restroom but rather being able to easily fit in those skinny little toilets and be able to turn around to get the door closed without feeling like the walls are coming in on me.
2. Buying clothes in the regular stores/departments rather than the specialty stores or the Women's departments.
3.Playing with my kids instead of watching them . . . or sending them out to play with their siblings, cause I am too tired.
4. Believing my husband when he says I am beautiful instead of feeling like he is saying it 'cause he "has to".
5. Better sex. Let's face it . . . there are limitations when your bellies are bumping and you get cramps in your hips, or you can't hold yourself up for very long.
6. Feeling worthy of love, etc. Without meaning to do harm, my father told me (at age 8) that I was not allowed to go out with mom and him because I was "too fat" (not the real reason-- it was an adult event). I even have a hard time accepting God's love, cause I feel I am not worthy due to my physicality.
7. Liking to have my picture taken instead of hiding from the camera, threatening the camera operator. (I can relate to the man who posted about not being in any family photos.)
8. Not having to wear shorts,0 leg breifs, bike tights, etc. under all my dresses to keep my legs from chafing. As I understand it, not everyone's thighs rub together??Corallary(sp?): jeans that wear out somewhere other than the inner thighs.
9. Not having the steering wheel rub my belly when I drive. I actually noticed this one happening already :)
10. Not being asked when my baby is due even though I am not pregnant. Not to mention that look people give while deciding whether or not to ask.

There are more, but this will do. Earlier I said that getting thinner is not an issue. I can't make it one, or I will be discouraged when it doesn't happen fast enough. I have to concentrate on this as a WOE/WOL. However, getting smaller is one of the definate advantages to this WOL, as are the other benefits mentioned here and elsewhere. I am afraid, for me, however, that if I only see is as a weight loss plan, I will fall prey to the trap of discontinuing the WOL when I reach a certian number (or conversely, will feel a failure if that number never materializes for me).
Another advantange I am seeing is that my daughter,a 14 year old size 20 (now 16-18), is learning a WOE that may help her find more happiness in her young life. Maybe someday she will be fit enough to feel/look good in all those cute little fashions that are not flattering to young ladies of her present figure. And maybe my 8 year old daughter will never have to go through the agony of being too big for anything! And my 16 year old stick-skinny son will have weapons to tame his body when his metabolism catches up with him.

DWRolfe
Mon, Jul-15-02, 07:34
Excellent post! Welcome to the forum and to the Triple Digits Club!

I always like to invite new people to this forum even if they don't have 100+ pounds to lose just becasue the threads here are so meaningful. Plus people in this forum really let it all out, holding back nothing. I respect my freinds here so very much...

Good luck to you, and thanks again for this inspirational post.

Donald :wave:

babybear
Mon, Jul-15-02, 11:16
Why I hate being fat:
Well first I hate every year since I was 5 my grandma putting me on a "diet".
I hate the phone call I get everyday asking me have I lost any weight
I also hate her telling me that I am not goin to live to see my children grow up.

I really love my grandma. I think these are more my issue of not wanting to deal with my weight and blamming it on her.

I also hate people looking at my husband and me together and wondering what a handsome man like him is doing with me!

What I have learned by being fat:
I do not think it has been tolerance because I have met fat people who have even put me down.
I do think I have learned undying true love. My husband and my children love me for who I am.

What I look forward to:
1 being able to pull up and grandma's house and say look at me!
2 seeing my children grow up and live
3 ok I want to wear jeans and a crop top (I have never been able to wear them)
4 I want to go to the beach and enjoy it.
5 I want to be able to keep up with all the teeny bobbers I go to classes with.

Everyone has covered so much of what we go through and I have enjoyed reading the entire post so far. This world we live in has such a messed up view of what is beautiful. I have a beautiful son who has special needs and his smile just lights up our lives and his teachers. He is very happy and healthy, but it just kills me inside to go out in town and someone say what is wrong with him! Anyways, I look forward to LIVING that is my new moto.

Babybear

VictoriaT
Mon, Jul-15-02, 11:58
Hi babybear
How are you? Just a few comments on what you wrote.

<<<I also hate people looking at my husband and me together and wondering what a handsome man like him is doing with me!>>>
How do you know they are wondering that? You must be pretty wonderful if you are with HIM and he chooses to be happy and have kids with you right!!! Be confident!! I know what you mean because I used to feel like that but frankly other people can kiss my rear if they want to wonder why my fiance is with me! HE loves you!!! HE LOVES YOU--ALL OF YOU!!! You even say your kids and your hubby love you for you--well BELIEVE IT!! You are wonderful---so you dont look like Pamela Anderson--at least you dont have to worry about popping that silicone if you ever fell :p :rolleyes:

I feel bad because I know what your going through. I ahve been LC for one month and my attitude change is incredible. I no longer think WHY IS BRIAN WITH ME but now I think BRIAN AND I MAKE A GREAT COUPLE-we have so much to offer each other. AND IT SHOWS!!!! :thup: The next time you feel someone is judging you and your hubby, give him a kiss and hold his hand and keep your head up high because THAT IS YOUR MAN!!! YOU--not some stranger-are THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE!!! Keep that in mind!!!

PHEWW! I gotta get of my box, but I just wanted to let you know that you are wonderful regardless of whether you are 190 or 100.

Have a great day!!
:wave: vicki

VictoriaT
Mon, Jul-15-02, 12:00
OOPS!!!
I messed up whenm I was trying to copy the sentence that whole post is about..
here it is!!!!!

...I also hate people looking at my husband and me together and wondering what a handsome man like him is doing with me...



Sorry!

mwallace29
Tue, Jul-16-02, 10:01
Wow ~ what an amazing thread!

You guys all had me in tears ~ I don't think there is a thing I could add that has not already been listed.

As I was reading through this ~ I was really checking out the stats. What great inspiration!

I have 5 beautiful grandkids and one on the way ~ I want them to have pictures of us together when they get older. I want them to have pictures of their Grandma to show thier kids and where I look wonderful! Right now ~ I just hate seeing myself in pictures.............that will soon change.

The biggest thing I hate is "The Look" and people thinking that I must eat constantly to be this fat and eat way more than they do.

LCer in NW
Wed, Jul-17-02, 07:36
you know you arrived when someone says "what in the world are you watching your sweets for? you don't need to lose any weight." precisely! that's why.

In_Control
Wed, Jul-17-02, 14:04
I keep following this thread because it's truly motivating for me. But the other day I realized that I just want to be pretty again. Sounds soooo shallow doesn't it? I actually wore one of my OLD "normal" dresses the other day to church and it felt so good. My husband looked at me almost in shock when he saw me. First thing he said is wow, you look so pretty. Now that just DOESN'T come out of my husbands mouth. But I think he said what he thought.

Anyway. That's another reason why I hate being fat. I NEVER look pretty. And now having just a small taste and remembering how good it feels, shallow or not, I LIKE IT!

sunflower
Wed, Jul-17-02, 15:34
I haven't replied for awhile but I just wanted to say, I hate not being able to lay my Bible on my lap during church. I notice everyone around me have theirs open and on their lap, I have to hold mine up in front of me during the sermon or lay it down because I have no lap to lay it on.

lcon109
Wed, Jul-17-02, 17:07
I intend to go back to the mall to Victoria's Secrets....directly to the skinny (size 2) old lady who works there...purchase about $3000 worth of clothing (she works on commission) and then at the last minute decide that I don't want any of it and walk away.

A while ago, my dear sweet husband decided that he would like to purchase some lingere for me. And in the tradition of most men, I guess he decided Victoria's Secrets would be the best place (afterall he'd seen the catalog.. what man WOULDN'T want to go there??) Bravely he took me AND our 2 young children and marched us into the 'boutique'. This skinny old lady came bustling over to us and asked if she could help us. I asked her if she could show me some selections in size XL. She actually stepped back for a moment, then leaned very close to me and whispered.."we don't carry that size in the store, only in our catalog." My husband asked why that was and she actually said that they had a certain image to maintain. He turned to me and said, "lets get out of here before the image SHE maintains is my foot up her butt!"

He took me to Macy's and bought 3 beautiful sets that I have and wear to this day.

I don't get mad, I get even ;)

Lisa

paws
Mon, Jul-22-02, 20:25
I hate being fat because I too am tired of having to ask for a table, not a booth, at a restaurant. Also, I have to watch to make sure I am going to be able to fit in a chair and not be up against the chairs that are behind me. I don't want to be "trapped". Also, people have that "look" that they give a fat person as if we are stupid and have no feelings and are second class citizens. My list could go on and on also, but these are good for a start!

pepper
Tue, Jul-23-02, 17:33
Yeah. I know what you mean, Paws. And how about that look of disgust? As if nothing in their own lives could turn anyone else's stomach? These are the kind of people I can only shake my head at in wonder. EVERYONE has something wrong with them. EVERYONE could improve something in their lives. While my fat is obvious to everyone, and may cause some disapproving looks, I can honestly say that my compassion is not impaired as theirs obviously is.
You hang tight Paws! You can do this!

pepper

paws
Tue, Jul-23-02, 20:07
Pepper, thanks for the reply. I feel better now that I have heard what you have to say. Sometimes I feel so overwhelmed by the task ahead of me of losing all this excess weight and I know it is going to take a long time for me to lose it. I can't understand how people can treat others as they do. You are right, here we are with our problem there for the whole world to see. We are not hurting anyone else with this but we are looked on as outcasts. I hate that. I even had a doctor tell me that I should not be hurt anymore by comments or looks that people make as I should be used to it by now. I have never gotten used to it. Nasty looks/comments still hurt the heart and soul. On the positive side, I am doing something about it so I at least feel good about that.
Thanks everyone for listening to me.

Paws

:wave:

DWRolfe
Wed, Jul-24-02, 08:18
So glad that you've found the Triple Digits Club...

I read your posts about fitting into booths at restaurants etc., and who among us has not had the same feelings and experiences?

But I'm here to tell you that it gets better and that even though the task at hand may seem overwhelming, it can be done. But I also want to point out that you don't have to get all the way to your goal weight before things get much better. I also have a great deal of weight to lose, but I already fit in booths again and seats in the theatre and behind the wheel of my car...

So be strong and work the program. Give yourself just a month of clean LCing and you'll have a different outlook...

Good luck & welcome! P.S. Start a journal!

Donald :wave:

pepper
Wed, Jul-24-02, 18:10
You're more than welcome,
Paws. It's a tough row to hoe, but it'll be worth it. Keep writing,
pepper

Rob40
Fri, Jul-26-02, 13:40
I hate being fat because I can't do all the things I want with my kids.

I have to go to the amusement park and pretend I don't want to go on the rides with them (when the real reason is I won't fit in the seat)

I get winded after bikeriding a small way.

I am always the fattest mom at the park and I can see them all looking at me.

I always have to look at seats to make sure I can fit in them or they won't break.

I would like for once to tuck my shirt in my pants instead of having it hang over (to hide my bulge).

I would like to be able to be in pictures without cringing at the sight of them.

thank you for letting me vent. :)

musicmama
Sun, Jul-28-02, 19:02
This is my first time posting on your thread...but I have been lurking and just had to add my thoughts to yours. Oh, by the way, I really am a triple digit,,but I raised my first goal so it didn't seem so overwhelming. :(
I can relate to all that you have said, but since I have recently had a foot surgery, let me add a few reasons why I want to lose weight.
I hate having to have a "double wide" wheelchair, or two gowns, one for the front and one for the back because one doesnt reach far enough to cover. The bigger blood pressure cuff is an embarrassment, and crass nurses who shout out your weight for everyone to hear. I had a doctor tell me," You don't expect me to be able to examine you through all THAT do you??" I was mortified. Come to find out I had to have gall bladder surgery,,,a sensitive doctor found the problem right away and was incensed that the other one had treated me so cruelly.
I have a very young husband, and I want to feel sexy for him. He adores me the way I am,,,but he deserves a little excitement! ;)
My grandchildren have never seen me thin,,,and my children havent for a long time. I want to be healthy and able to do things for a long time.
Well, guess that about says it for now. I love reading all your posts, and look forward to it everyday. Hang in there...we can do this!!! Cya lighter! :wave:

SRCastan
Mon, Jul-29-02, 10:05
It's amazing just how cruel doctors can be, isn't it?

I remember my first gyno exam when I was 17. The doctor told the nurse it was hard to feel my ovaries because he was "pushing through a huge pad of fat." I was only about 180 back then, but I remember that I would have boosted my leg out of that stirrup and kicked him in his little bald head if I had only been a little more flexible!

And WHY do doctors assume you are coming in for the latest magical weight loss cure when you actually have the FLU? "Yes, your lungs are full of fluid and you have a nasty ear infection, but let's talk about your weight. There's a miracle diet drug you just HAVE to try..."

After years of dieting myself up to 265 pounds, I finally found what's known as the 'fat friendly yet extremely helpful' doctor. Believe it or not, there are some out there! While I may be a large woman, everything healthwise is normal - cholesteral, triglicerides, blood pressure, blood sugars, heart - NORMAL, for crying out loud!

This time, I brought up the subject of weight loss. After years of being conditioned to accept diet drugs and low-fat eating, I expected that he would write me a prescription for the latest drug (leptin?) and tell me to follow the standard low fat, high carb traditional diet plan.

To my great surprise, he introduced me to the Atkins plan. "Not a diet, Susan - a way of life." He gave me the book (What? A freebie at the Dr's office?), and explained the basics, how it worked, what to expect, etc.

Today, two weeks later, I am 12.5 pounds lighter.

My adult acne has completely cleared up, and I sleep through the night. I have more energy than I ever had while on those diet drugs (They must have just been speed - all they did was make me eat FASTER!).

What do I hate about being fat?

Lifting up my arms and having the swinging upper arm fat hit someone in the face, giving them a black eye.

Double chins - although I seem to have lost one of mine recently. If you find it, please DO NOT return!

Not being able to paint my toenails. Actually, I didn't realize I HAD toenails until this morning. Just kidding.

The old 'she's got such a pretty face, too bad she's so fat' comment. What's up with that? I've seen some really horrendous looking skinny people. Should I start saying "she's got such a nice body, too bad about that nose?" Naw, that's WAY too mean.
Anyway, my two cents for today. Keep the change!

Thinny
Mon, Jul-29-02, 11:34
<Giggle> Or how about the hairdresser who exclaimed "What's that?" when her comb snagged on the second roll of fat at the back of my head. And being forced to say"It's fat. that's all.":mad:
Surely someone smart enough to write her exams for haidressing should have the smarts enough not to point out the obvious to a client! :rolleyes:

Star85
Mon, Jul-29-02, 12:54
Reasons I hate about being fat: (there are a lot)

~ being wayed at the dorctors for the required physical before I can play on the softball team (Im 17 by the way)

~ crying because I hate the way I look

~ when people say "you have such a pretty face"...yeah...thanks...

~ going to amusement parks with my friends and having to worry about whether or not I will fit into the saftey restraints :cry:

~ the hesitation and embarassment when Im going swimming with my friends (and being the biggest person among my friends)

~ Only daring to wear black one-piece bathing suits (someday I WILL own a bikini)

~ being afraid to dance due to the jiggle effect

~ dreading finding a date for prom (and hunting for a decent dress)

~ having to put off getting a belly button ring

~ when people wearing size 2 complain about being fat or having flab. they must consider me a sumo girl :mad:

~ when shopping for pants or skirts, folding over the edges and re-clipping them to make them look smaller (am I the only person that does this?)

~ getting onto an elevator and doing silent calculations of the maximum weight limit

~ lack of confidence...never had a boyfriend!

welll....I could probably go on forever so I will stop here! Good luck everyone...Im so glad this forum exists and that there are other people who know what its like to be fat and hate it!

starchile
Tue, Jul-30-02, 10:13
You hang in there sweetheart. When I read your post my heart ached...I have experienced every single thing on your list and I know how lonely and alone it feels. Like no one could possibly understand the humiliation that you go through when dealing with these things. Just know that there are many of us that do understand and we have survived it and gotten stronger...so will you.

:there:

Peace,
Star

musicmama
Tue, Jul-30-02, 14:44
I can relate to all those, because all though I am a grandmother now,,,I had all those experiences too. Add on top of that a step mom who called me names because she was thinner than me. As for the crying over how we look,,we all have done that no matter what the age!! Hang in there kiddo,,,better days are comin!!! :D
I have another reason I hate being fat..(is there an end to em)..I hate hearing my legs rub together when I walk,,,,that swish swish sound,,,,no way could I sneak up on someone!! I hate always taking a shower cause I cant fit in the bathtub comfortabley,( and then I can't get out when I do try!) :( I hate Queen Size anything....booths in restaurants..flat shoes all the time..skinny chairs in theaters and doctors offices...girdles, having to buy extra long bands for my watch, and on and on......
Just think, all these things will be bad memories soon!!! Then we can start a thread about what we LOVE about being thin!!!!! I cant wait!!! :D
CYA lighter!!! :wave:

Star85
Tue, Jul-30-02, 21:17
more reasons:

~ I hate those tv shows that show actors who are supposedly soooo fat, and make them out to be total losers and idiots (and they dont even look that bad!)

~ I hate seeing groups of people whispering to eachother and wondering if they are talking about me because of my weight

~ I hate when magazines say that they have great new styles that look wonderful on all shapes and sizes, and then feature models so skinny they are concave :mad:

~ I hate that I sometimes have to look in the mens section of a store to get pants, and then pretend that I am shopping for an older brother

~ I hate it when guy friends come to me for advice on how to get other girls...I want to be one of those other girls sometimes

~ I hate sucking in my stomach

~ I hate wondering whether or not the person I am out with is embarassed to be seen with me because of my weight

~ I hate the way that some people seem to stare right through me, as if Im not even there to them



*** Before I found this forum, I didnt think that anyone else could understand what Im going through. To everyone who has posted in this forum, you have helped me to realize that Im not alone and that there are people who know what this is like...thank you, for more than you can know. ***

delilah
Wed, Jul-31-02, 12:29
Ugh, The Look. It's funny though, I feel *really* self-conscious going into the supermarket since starting this WOL. I keep thinking that people are staring into my cart, looking at the bacon, cheese, cream, etc. and saying "Yes! There! See! THAT'S why she's fat!" and nod knowingly. I tend to wander the supermarket with my cart full of meat and fat (the veggies come from the farmer's market), thinking up retorts, just in case anyone should approach me and try to tell me different... :lol:

Has anyone else noticed that, even though they still have 100+ pounds to lose, they've got enough self-esteem to show up next to a swimming pool with other people around and sit out in the sun? I'm finding that doing something that actually works is helping me stare down the ones who might dare to be insulting.

Thinny
Wed, Jul-31-02, 13:01
Delilah, don't you begin to see a pattern? You are so self-conscious over your weight that it makes you at times, introvert, belligerent, and paranoid. (In a femine way, of course. :-)) Now you have decided to stop using your weight as a reason to refrain from doing "normal" summer things... and lo and behold! you feel defensive about it. True, jerks abound, and they can and will make fun of anybody, anywhere, anytime. If it weren't your weight, they'd still find something - hey, are those boobs real or did you have to buy them? Hey Freckles, did you get splattered by mud? Hey Shortie, you'll only be half the man I am. Etc., etc.,
Weight is not the cause of everything antisocial that we encounter, but it's the first thing we think of. If you take your place in the sun, and don't give ground to hecklers (better yet, heckle back - Hey kid, too bad your father was a confirmed bachelor.:-)), your weight will not be as much of an issue, nor will you hide from society until you feel thin enough to be "acceptable." :)

Tanyaskees
Wed, Jul-31-02, 13:36
This is a really powerful thread. I have felt every one of the things in this thread at one time of my life or another, specially the 'you have such a pretty face', I hate it. But I have learned something a while back, I don't give a s**t what strangers think anymore, it really doesn't matter. I am doing this for ME, ME and only ME. I love being smaller, I feel great and I still don't care what others think.

Delilah, your post about people looking into your shopping card really got to me. Please don't worry about what they think, you know that you are on your way to being healtier, happier you, so it is not worth worrying about what those goofy people in the supermarket think, if they look at you shopping, they need to get a life.

delilah
Wed, Jul-31-02, 21:16
Thank you so much Thinny and Tanya. I was reeling from your comments all day. Instead of posting a big pity party for myself on here, I posted a long reply here (http://www.merger-designs.com/~delilah/shape/j73102.htm).

:bhug:

musicmama
Wed, Jul-31-02, 22:06
Hi everyone!!
About that shopping cart,,,,in a few months they will be looking and wondering how we can eat all that and stay so thin!! :D
Actually, truth be known,,,and it took me a long time to learn this,,,people rarely spend much time thinking or wondering about other people anyway. I have found that usually when we think people are thinking about us, they are really not. Most people are so caught up in themselves and their own little world that they don't give a second thought to what the person in the aisle with them has in their cart. Really..how many times do you notice what someone else is buying?? I never do........but we are so self conscious that we obsess about anything that has to do with our weight. Like when we used to stand in line at Dairy Queen and just know that the people are passing by thinking.." Get outta that liine, you don't need it." Its a habitual way of thinking, and the longer we have been overweight the harder it is to break that pattern. :( Believe me, I know!! I am 55 yrs old and still struggle with it! I just know that people are looking at my plate piled high with meat at the smorgasbord,,but oh well!!! I have a secret they need to know!!! That's how I choose to look at it! :D
I had a friend tell me today that I "need carbohydrates for energy", and I just smiled and said,,"Ya know what, I have more energy now than I ever have, and I don't have to eat carbs to have it.." and just dropped the subject. She will see the results soon enough!
As for the remarks from ignorant people,,,my husband's ex-wife told him once to "take your fat wife and get oughtta here," I said, "honey, my fat may bother you, but it aint botherin' him any!!! And besides, I can lose weight, there's not a whole lot you can do to help your looks!!" Not too nice,,,but I felt good!! :lol: hehehe
Cya Lighter :wave:

delilah
Wed, Jul-31-02, 22:34
:D

good comeback! I always think of the good ones AFTER the moment has passed! Why must people try to be so hurtful? :/

I'm actually not as self-conscious about the cart as I used to be. Before I started the rounds of diets, I always worried about what people thought of my ice cream, sodas, baking mixes, mayonnaise, etc. But with this WOL, I know that this is the right thing for me, so it doesn't bother me as much. It started out as a facade of not caring, but over the past month, that facade is slowly starting to ease into *really* not caring what other people think.

It's a weird sort of egotism to feel that everyone is staring at us, isn't it? I suppose it comes from us being so self-conscious of our bodies, we think everyone else must be, too?

musicmama
Wed, Jul-31-02, 23:09
Years ago when I was a single mom and had to live on a minimum wage income, I was forced to live on food stamps as well. I had the same kind of feeling about what I had in my cart. I just knew if I put pop or a good cut of steak in there, that someone would make a remark, and sometimes they did. I could'nt tell them that it was on sale,,or hey,,,my kids like a treat too,and my tax money pays for this just the same as yours. Finally I learned to ignore their comments with the attitude,,,THEY are the ones with the problem,,not me! :mad:
Hey Delilah,,,you are gorgeous!!! I can tell by your picture that you are gonna have some great "after" pictures for us all!!! Can't wait to see em!! ;) I wish I had done this earlier, when I was first married to my current husband. He is so much younger and so handsome that I used to wonder what he saw in me,,,but we are a perfect match! I just can't wait to knock his sox off, if ya know what I mean!!! :roll:
Well, hang in there,,,,,we can do this!!!
CYa Lighter :wave:

Thinny
Wed, Jul-31-02, 23:55
DElilah, I went over to your long post and read it. Oh my! I'm sorry I came at you like a ton of bricks - that wasn't my intent. I could hear the anger and despair oozing from your post, and wondered if you were even aware of it. But dear, you also know what needs changing. You have to love yourself before you'll allow others to love you, too. How many fat people do you know with younger, handsome husbands and lovely families? Do you think it was their waist measurements that attracted their mates, or a sunny cheerful personality that made others want to be around them? People today need something positive to cling to - just being as kind as you know how will do wonders. Go to the mirror (you do have one, I hope?) and smile at yourself. Really smile! Practice until your face doesn't crack anymore. Then go out and practice on everyone you meet. If your weight comes up as an issue, deflect or defuse it with humour. And smile! Or laugh. It may take a while, but eventually you will find it doesn't hurt, that people like you because of that beautiful smile and positivity, and that you're too busy living your life to post on echoes like these. I really hope so. :D BTW, go to Mercola.com and read up on a weird but seemingly effective tool called EFT to change deepseated behaviours and attitudes. It looks interesting.:)

Tanyaskees
Thu, Aug-01-02, 10:08
Dear delilah, I am so sorry my comments hurt you, it definitly was not my intent.
Girl, listen to Thinny, she is so right. I have been fighting my weight all my life, I have gone from fat to chunky back to fat and on and on, never skinny, bit I have always had tons of friends, never without a boyfriend, always popular....and FAT. I learned to love myself and it showed. And you can too. I know you can.

Shark01
Thu, Aug-01-02, 12:20
We all get those "looks" by the "beautiful" people of the world. You should have seen the look the twenty year old waiter gave me when I ordered death by chocolate today at lunch (this is my CAD week in the cycle so leave me alone ;) ). And then the little weasel looks at the $20 dollar bill I put on the table with the bill and has the nerve to ask "do you need any change?" (the bill was $10.15 :rolleyes: ). Yeah Zoolander, I'm not tipping you 97% :mad:

Some people just suck, plain and simple :thup:

hjackson
Thu, Aug-01-02, 13:31
Hubby and I get paid once a month, and we got very low on groceries this past month. I went to the grocery store today to restock, including lots of canned veggies, dairy, and other stuff. I met this very nice young girl, and her father, who was, in every other way, very polite. He looked at my buggy and commented on how much food was in it. I replied that we only get paid once a month, and this was to tide us over all month. He then replied "And you're cooking for yourself and 6 kids, right?" Nope, just my husband and I.

Of course, had he really looked at me, he'd have seen that I'm obviously too young to have 6 kids eating the same food my husband and I do, unless, of course, they're all adopted. I have no kids.

I know he didn't mean anything by it; he was in every other way (as I've said) very kind and friendly. Just another time someone wasn't really thinking about what they said.

Libbyfcr
Thu, Aug-01-02, 13:52
I read your reply, Delilah, on your web page. I was just thinking that at least for me..... changes come when I am ready, and, when I am able to honestly address my issues. Change isn't easy but it usually is for the better. You come across to me as a lovely person and I wish you the very best.


Okay.... I am one of those people who looks in another persons shopping cart. Usually I think....... "Oh, if they only knew what I know." I wish I could just tell them. I also am one of those people who buys all my Veggies from a different store than where I purchase all my other groceries. I notice I tend to tell the clerk that. Like I need to justify why I haven't got any Veggies in my shopping cart? Interesting observations. Thats all.

We all get those "looks" by the "beautiful" people of the world.
This quote brings up interesting thoughts for me. I have seen both sides of this issue. When I was a teenager I was a model.
I have also been obese. I will never give someone "the Look" as I truly believe beauty is on the inside. I would rather be known for my strength of character, my integrity and my morals than for my looks.

Take care of yourselves the best that you know how. Love yourself for who you are and be honest about the things you wish to change.

With best wishes,
:wave: Libby

jazzyflyer
Thu, Aug-01-02, 14:46
Hi everyone,

Oh boy can I identify with all of the reasons for hating being fat ... I too have lost and gained back .. vowing this time it's for good!!!.

I guess one of my biggest motivators is my son .. how can I tell him to watch his weight when I'm not??? :mad:

Watching this handsome 17 year take abuse from his so called friends about his weight has taught me to help myself and him ... all I am asking is for all of you wonderful LCer's to lift us up.

Thanks in advance!!!

delilah
Fri, Aug-02-02, 22:37
I just want to say thank you everyone for your kind words and encouragement. The happiness and depression is lifting, but it's a slow road.

Now if only I could get off this plateau!! :roll:

musicmama
Fri, Aug-02-02, 23:50
I don't usually look in other people's grocery carts, (however, since we started this thread I have become more aware!!) but I do find myself looking at people who have obvious weight problems and think,,,I have your answer! But most people don't really want to hear. The few who have asked me what I am doing, say things like,"Oh, I could never do without my bread..or sweets..or pasta." Or," Isnt that the high protein diet that is so dangerous??" Well,,,that just makes me want to shake 'em and tell em the real truth,,,this is the most healthy way I have ever eaten! :exclm:
I have two friends who are very serious diabetics, with high blood pressure problems, heart problems and other things as well. I have tried to tell them that this WOE would benefit them,,,but all I get is,,"Oh, I could never go on a diet!! I just don't have the willpower!!" I get so frustrated watching them in and out of hospitals,,seeing one doctor after another. I guess it is all in what you really want most, a healthy lifestyle or ............. :(
I am so thankful for this group of supporters and fellow LC'ers,,you guys all keep me encouraged and motivated!! Its a great way for us all to share in other people's successes!. Keep posting....
Cya lighter :wave:

Shark01
Sat, Aug-03-02, 08:44
Originally posted by delilah
Now if only I could get off this plateau!! :roll:

What are you doing to get off the plateau? You need to give your boday a little shock every now and then. A couple of things to try are:

Going on the CAD diet for a week
Fasting for a day
Going on Metabolife for a month

Thinny
Sat, Aug-03-02, 09:25
Delilah, your emotions are powerful things, either for or against you. If you feel that your depression is lifting, it's because chemical changes INDUCED BY FEELINGS are taking place in your body. And as you feel happier, it WILL be easier to get off that plateau. So smile!! Go around with a smile on your face, even if it's not in your heart, and you will be uplifted by how much nicer people are suddenly treating you. And eventually that smile will reach your heart as well. In the meantime, to help the process along, make sure your vitamin and mineral supplements are more than adequate. Eat enough of the real foods and fats that keep cravings at bay so that you feel satisfied. Make up a list of affirmations relevant only to you (ie., I love myself no matter what I look like; I smile because I feel good; etc.) and repeat them to yourself night and morning. Put as much passion into these as possible - you have to convince your subconscious you mean it, since it is your subconscious that has been creating the negative actions in your life, and these affirmations have to be louder and stronger. And eventually you will jump off that plateau! Happy slimming! :D

Libbyfcr
Mon, Aug-05-02, 13:49
Make up a list of affirmations relevant only to you (ie., I love myself no matter what I look like; I smile because I feel good; etc.) and repeat them to yourself night and morning. Put as much passion into these as possible - you have to convince your subconscious you mean it, since it is your subconscious that has been creating the negative actions in your life, and these affirmations have to be louder and stronger. And eventually you will jump off that plateau!
Those are some pretty good words of wisdom.

There is another side of this thread. We discussed this once to great lengths in another thread along time ago. But I thought I would bring it up again.

Everyone here has been listing the things they hate about being fat. It can get to be a rather negative feeling.

How about list the things you like about yourself? Can you think of THREE things that you truly like about who you are or what you look like? If you can think of three things you like about yourself and then use the advice from the quote above it might just do you some good. I know it does for me.

The last time I listed three things about my body that I liked I had a terrible time even coming up with one thing. True, I was much heavier then and probably a little depressed about life in general. Things have changed drastically for me, inside and out.

Today lets not look at our flaws.............
I like.......... My neck. I like how it looks now that it is a little slimmer.

I like......... my legs. They are far from perfect but they are mine. They feel good, they carry my body anywhere I want. They are strong.

I like........... my wedding ring. It is back where it belongs.


Something to think about.
Libby :wave:

Star85
Mon, Aug-05-02, 14:10
I think you're right Libby. Even though admitting the reasons I hate being fat and reading everyone elses is a great way to motivate me to change my body, it is a little depressing at times too. So here are 3 things I like about myself...

1. I like the way my smile is contagious for other people

2. I like my freckles

3. I like the way my curly hair looks after I've been outside and in the wind


I feel better already! :D have a great day everyone!

Tanyaskees
Mon, Aug-05-02, 14:10
Libby, great idea, so here goes.

I have great legs even is I say so myfelf :).

I have a nice small butt....LOL

I have great hair and nails :).

Now, do I sound full of myself or what?

Thinny
Mon, Aug-05-02, 14:10
And I like that my outsides are beginning to reflect what I am inside - an ORDINARY person, instead of a FAT person. I like the wrinkles on my legs, underarms and elsewhere that are tangible proof that my weight loss is real. (OK, I'd also like to see them go when I am fully convinced! :D) And lastly, I like the fact that I have more control, and feel less like a blob floating in a sea of carbohydrates, about to go down for the 3rd time. (I love that it's not really about willpower, but about food choices , and that making the right choices are having a visible effect on my body and spirit.)

musicmama
Mon, Aug-05-02, 15:02
Great idea Libby!!! Let's change the focus!! :thup:

I hadda think a few minutes....but did find some things I like!!

I like my hair, and the fact that it is growing back in!! It is a pretty shade of salt and pepper, but the silver really shines, not that yucky yellow that some gray hair is. My hubby loves it too. :D

I like my new pretty foot!!! :roll: Soon I will have two, after one more surgery!!!

And I like the wrinkles in my skin too,,,cause it means I am shrinking!!! :eek:

I really like the way I feel,,,the smile that is more prevalent now that I am in control, the energy I have,,,I JUST LIKE LIFE right now!!! Things are so much better!!! :)

CYA lighter :wave:

pepper
Mon, Aug-05-02, 19:55
It is my sincerest wish that everyone who has been reading this thread is now thinking of three things they like about themselves. And to get them motivated:
1. I like the feeling that I didn't lose myself just because I'm overweight. I'm a terrific and positive person. And so are you or you wouldn't be here making a new way of life for yourself.
2. I like the way I've come to respect myself. Taking care of mind AND body. A first for me and probably some of you too.
3. I enjoy the wolf whistles I've been getting lately. And no doubt many of you have been getting noticed in ways you haven't before or in a while. And it's all due to your own efforts in low carbing.

I am overwhelmed with thanksgiving when I think of what I could have suffered if I had not found LCing. And the extra added benefit of a nice body being found in here isn't hard to live with either! I think I'll call my boyfriend and ask him to lunch tomorrow. I feel so great right now!

Later, and much love to you all,
pepper

captxray
Mon, Aug-05-02, 23:36
Now, we're cookin! I like it when we talk about the positive side of this WOE! All of us have had the downside, ill effects, and bad vibes from the world.

1. I like the fact that I was just able to go on a 34 mile hike in the High Sierras to a place I first went to 42 years ago! I had the time of my life and appreciated it more than the first time, I'll tell you! And to think, I never thought I would ever see it again just a short ten months ago. I love this WOE!!!!

2. I love to see my toes when I look down!

3. I love going from a 52" waist to a 36" waist and still see it getting smaller!

hjackson
Tue, Aug-06-02, 07:51
I like this idea.

1. I'm legally blind, and wear coke bottom classes, but I still think I have stunning eyes. They're really pretty hazel with thin bands of yellow around the pupil. I was told at least once that the yellow looks like little bands of sunshine. I have my Dad's eyes....they remind me of him everytime I give them any thought, and it makes me miss him even more. (He died almost 10 years ago, but there are time when I still miss him like it was yesterday).

2. I have LONG long hair. It goes to just the very bottom of my back / top of my bottom. It's a rich, warm brown with hints of auburn that shine copper in the sunlight. I love my hair. People have asked why I have my hair so long; there are at least two reasons: one, I like what I can do with it, and two, I'm curious to see how long it will grow.

3. I'm cute, darnit. Every so often, I get a glimpse of myself in the mirror, and I see what my husband sees, what my Dad saw. I'm really cute, and when I see that in myself, I feel worlds better about me.

4. I'm good with languages. I can speak 2 with a fair amount of fluency, and I can get along well in a 3rd, not counting, of course, English. I'm planning to start learning Greek this fall, and while I won't stay in classes forever, once I get this base, I can probably continue to learn more, even on my own.

That's all I can come up with at the moment without looking entirely concieted.

raharris
Tue, Aug-06-02, 08:33
Hi ho --

Well, looks =do= count, even though I am very happliy married. Maybe *because* I am happily married!

But health has to be the main issue here. We all know that fat is bad for the heart, sure. But I have a particularly pernicious arthritis in my feet/ankles, hands/wrists, and spine, and every extra pound increases the pain. And the pain is bad enough without the extra weight to help. Worse, the arthritis is dissolving some of my joints -- spine is the worst -- and extra weight may actually be causing me more physical damage.

So I hate the weight -- let's bid it goodbye!

KN, Theragatha 50 -- Vimala

The earth's sprinkled
with rain, wind
is blowing, lightning
wanders the sky,
but my thoughts are stilled,
well-centered
my mind.

harpseal
Tue, Aug-06-02, 14:11
I HATE being fat because I can't look good in a bathing suit. I want to look sexy not Sahmoo the whale!!

I want to be able to ride rides at an amusement park and not worry if the bar will come down far enough.

I want to be able to wear long sleeves again and not be hot all the time and having to wear short sleeves in the winter!

I want to be able to ask for dessert in a restaurant and not get dirty looks.

I want to look as good as my teenage niece and want her to be able to go clothes shopping with me and to think I'm really cool.

I want to feel good about myself again!!

Sherry B
Wed, Aug-28-02, 00:55
I didn't start out fat, I started out thin, got lots of attention, and looked good.

I hate that I didn't value that, that I let it slip away. That I had never really been taught how to keep a good figure, that I didn't understand what the tricks were to staying slim.

I hate that I wasted so much of my life, so many years not being at my optimum. That I didn't stay active, couldn't stay active and got so fat that excercise didn't even seem like an option.

What I really hate about being fat now is how easily my body overheats. I can't tolerate hot sunlight, get horrible headaches if I spend too much time in the heat.

I grew up with a sister that I loved, who had always been fat, from her youth on. I saw the pain she went through because of her weight (and I'm sure I added to it when we were younger). But I think one of the reasons I even allowed myself to gain so much was to in some way be on an equal footing with her. Dumb reason. I'm sure it was a factor though. Another factor is probably simple genetics.

Now that I've been fat, I'm ready to be thin. My sister is and always will be fat, I tried to get her to try Atkins, but she doesn't like it. She will need to make her own decisions, I'm not responsible for her choices. I think while growing up, being her cuter, thinner, younger sister made me feel a little guilty. I got lots of attention, she didn't. Maybe gaining weight was in some ways a pennance for all of that.

I hope you don't think I'm vain for saying that, I'm certainly not feeling very cute now. But I think that it is much more painful to be fat as a child and a young teenager than it is to be fat as an adult. I've seen my sister and her struggles (and times of giving up) through the years to lose weight and I know that in some ways she suffers much more than I do as a fat adult. She is also at a point (I believe) where she has given up the idea of ever being thin. I think she hopes to keep from getting too sick from her overweight and I believe that she feels that is the best she will ever do.

I actually entertain hopes of one day being back to my ideal weight. But I hate that I've wasted so many years in getting there.

I seriously burned myself one time, and some of that burn was on my face. I cried then, I cried that I could have been beautiful, but that I had wasted my "beautiful" years by being fat and that now that my face was "scarred" I would never be beautiful again. As it turned out, my face really didn't retain the scars I worried about, but that grief is still there. I could have spent years feeling beautiful and yet instead I spent them feeling fat and ugly and worthless.

I'm 46 years old now and if I ever do lose this weight, I won't be the young person I once was. I won't attract the kind of attention I once did. So I hate that I wasted that time.

I hate too that I spent so many years not doing things that would have been fun (roller skating, ice skating, dancing, active things like that) because of my weight. I'm going to buy a pair of roller blades sometime soon and start skating. I don't care if I am 46 and fat. It will be fun and I'm tired of wasting my life.

Monstarr
Wed, May-05-04, 22:08
Im so gl;ad you folks came up with this thread. I HATE ebing fat. Im losing alot of weight though, im an athletic level weight lifter. Im so miserable and alone. Hate it. My level of inner anger, rage, sadness and low self esteem just seem to grow with each day. Be nice to fit in with the thin people. One thing im grateful about being overweight right now is that now i have gained the insight. compassion and full understanding of how awful it feels, and a greater blindness to size and a stronger compassion towards all people than I had.

Main reasons for weight loss
1.) A sex life. Tired of relating to the fat friend in movies, feeling that painful stab in your gut when you hear ppl talk about somebody of your same sex and how "hot" they are. Dont wanna be the "friend" anymore. Would like to be able to ask somebody out without saying to myself "**** it, you know nobody dates fat people but other fat people" {does anybody here understand what im talkin about?}

2.) Like to eat without having anxiety or worry if it will affect my weight, increasing body fat content.

3.)Humiliation of taking my clothes off in public.

4.)Hot, scorching rage that never leaves, only grows with more loneliness and no where to run or no one to go to who understands.

5.) Greater Self esteem.

6.) No more reoccurring serious depression episodes.

7.)Enjoy watching tv again

8.)Fit in socially and enjoy a social life.

9.)No more sweating!!!!!!!!!

10.)Not mind looking in the mirror again and no more hating taking pictures.

11.) Tired of the "your cute, but..........." comments

12.) Tired of feeling the only person you can gain your life is someone whos big too.

13.)Enjoy love music again

leasmom
Wed, May-05-04, 23:34
Scared that the heart paputations I was feeling may actually lead to either a heart attack or stroke which would leave 7 yr old dd to find me dead.

Having to get a seat-belt extender which I donated about 1 1/2 months ago and now can fit and HAVE ROOM in the regular seatbelts. Also, not risking my life because I can't fit into another persons seatbelts in their car.

Having to pay $30 for 1 shirt because of my size.

Sweating...absolutely!!!

Knowing that dd has to defend me to all her friends who called me ugly and fat.

I hate having people stare when you go into some place and treating you like being fat is disgusting and they don't want to touch you or be near you.

Walking into a place and keeping your head low so you won't see the looks from others.

Seeing other people have someone and thinking I will die lonely...or settling for pathetic losers!!!

Having strangers 'diet you' when you're in buffets and the servers give you tiny portions while they serve other's with large portions.

Having my family treat me like the pathetic fatty of the family, which includes my mother who likes that I'm fatter than her...that means that she gets all the looks from men-(I love her but she has issues).

Having men scared that you are looking at them or too close to them instead of just standing near them.

Not being able to fit into things and having things tip over when you step onto them.

Having people stare...it might as well be a dagger.

Feeling inadequate, unlovable, unworthy when I AM!

That's what I hate about being fat!!!

missaec
Thu, May-06-04, 01:10
I've never been thin. However, I've always been big. Not huge. I was recently getting there... But I could pass for 40-50 pounds less than I was. Even now, I don't look bad. I know I weigh far too much and people consider me on the overweight side, but no one says anything much. But I've always been very insecure about the way I look though... I was made fun of a lot as a kid. So here's what I don't like about being fat:

1.) I don't want to have trouble shopping for clothes that fit. And I don't want to be embarassed by going to the checkout with plus sized clothes. I think I'm down to a 16 now though.. So I'm close. But I don't want to have to worry about if the biggest size they carry won't fit. Like I remember when I was a 14... sometimes stuff would run small and I was just out of luck. :(

2.) I don't want people to look at me and see the fat. I don't know how to explain that. There's just a way people look at pretty people that they don't look at me.

3.) I want to look good naked. And I don't, really.

4.) You can pull off many different hair styles when you're thinner. And there are more choices in clothing and what thin people can get away with that I can't.

5.) Want to look good in a bikini.

6.) Weighing less makes bedroom stuff a TON easier. Oh my goodness.

7.) I don't want to worry about my blood pressure anymore. I'm 20. I'm not supposed to worry about that. My doctor thinks it's a combination of my weight and my anxiety. At least I can fix one of them...

8.) Moving around is much easier when you weigh less. Also, less back pain. And less painful feet after a long day of working at Target.

9.) I don't want to be afraid to see people from high school. I had gained 55 pounds in the two years since high school. I've been scared to see people because I don't want to gross anyone out or be embarassed. I now only have 19 pounds of the 55 left. Yay for that! But basically I've been avoiding everyone since then..

10.) My family thinks it's gross that I gained so much and they make sure to tell me so.

toopoles
Thu, May-06-04, 02:13
What I hate the most about being fat is that I don't ever get to be me. That fun-loving, trail hiking, bike riding, relationship while walking down a country road type of relationship. The person who gets to move, just because it's fun. That's the me I miss the most. And she's been gone a long, long, time. Marty

luddybell
Thu, May-06-04, 03:36
the reasons i hate being fat:

Clothes cost way too much for me
I want to be able to skinny dip instead of chunky dunk or fatty flop!
I dont want me and my boyfriend to look like the odd couple anymore... Me the short fat one him the tall lanky one :( i know everyone wonders how he wound up with "the fat chick"
I want to be about to wear clothes that people my age wear instead of Grandma clothes ( no offense to any grandmothers!)

I WANT TO GO SWIMMING WITH STEPHENS FAMILY ( WHO ARE ALL TEENY TINY ) and not feel like a cow!

kmarace
Thu, May-06-04, 07:59
All reason's why I hate being fat have been so well expressed by all of you already. I have been unemployed for almost 4 years now and job interviews are a nightmare especially since I have FFF working against me (FAT, FEMALE, FORTIES). As soon as I walk into the room, I know I won't be getting the job just by the look on the interviewers face. I have been judged by weight only before a single word has been uttered. It doesn't matter that I hold a degree, have 25+ years experience, what my personality is or that I'm an honest, loyal or hard worker. One job I was actually hired because of my weight. The owner of the company was away on business for a few weeks and his secretary who was leaving was left incharge of the hiring. She was long gone before he got back. Found out later that he had a severe adversion to overweight people and the secretary only hired me as a type of revenge because he was a difficult person to work for. It had nothing to do with my skills whatsoever! I'm not going to get into what a terrible experience that job was, needless to say I was fired, not because I didn't do my job well, but he wanted me out of his sight. I HATE BEING FAT! -- Sorry if this got to be a little long, but I just had to vent even though it happened 6 years ago. -- Kris

LucyLucy
Thu, May-06-04, 08:46
Why do I hate being fat?

I hate the way people look at you, as if you're some retarded moron who can't control her eating. Such santimonious people.

I hate the way I fit in chairs, booths, plane seats.

I hate that the only men who would date me were insecure control freaks

I hate being discriminated against because of my weight for jobs.

I hate that I haven't been on a beach in 10 years or even in a public pool.

I hate that I look so horrible in shorts, so I end up sweating through the summer in capris' or longer pants.

I hate that I cannot wear tank tops.

I hate that my joints ache, I huff and puff going up a flight of stairs.

I hate that my parents don't understand WHY I gained so much weight to begin with, and always being the heaviest person in any group setting or family function.

I hate that I don't want to be intimate with a man because of the way I look.

I hate that I can't play softball, can't rollerblade, and though riding a bike is fun, someone took a picture of my fat a** on a bike, now it's too embarassing to even get ON a bike.

I hate that I live in such a beautiful state (Washington) and I don't hike, I've been asked, but I"m too embarrassed and can't keep up.

I hate that when I'm walking at Greenlake, I can't even keep up with senior citizens.

I hate that I've always been told that I'm sexy even heavy, but I don't feel it inside, and that lack of self-confidence and self-assuredness affects ALL my relationships. I'm bitter. I don't like being bitter.

LL

dhborton
Thu, May-06-04, 09:21
I hate being fat because it has caused me to stop playing volleyball. I played in high school, then on rec leagues afterwards, and coached for 10 years too. But, my body can't handle the abuse of it anymore, and I haven't played in about 5 years. Volleyball has always been a HUGE family sport for us, and I REALLY miss it!!!! That is one thing that is keeping me going, is knowing that when this weight is GONE, my 2 sisters, and 2 cousins are putting together a team!!!! YAY!!!!

Plus, of course, I feel all of the same things that you all have said too!!!!

I just want to feel NORMAL!!!!!!!! :cry:

Stardust
Thu, May-06-04, 13:12
So many of the listed reasons for hating being fat fit me now or have fit me in the past. My main pet peeve right now is why does the medical establish have to blame all the things wrong with you on your weight. Of course, I know that being overweight can affect a person's health negatively, but not everything that is wrong with a person can be linked back to that.

For example .... me. :) I am currenly 29 weeks pregnant and not having a good go of it. Up until today the baby and I were fine according to the doctor and tests, even though I was exhuasted beyond belief, headaches, weakness (like the bad flu) when I tried to do anything, when I walked anywhere I would get this tightness in the muscles of my tummy to where I could not breathe (they have no explanation for this), overall achiness. I just could not function and do daily activities and having a 2.5 year old at homes does not help in the rest department. The explanation I received for this was that I was pregnant and experiencing pregnancy symptoms they would pass after my fourth month. Yeah ... yeah ... didn't begin until the end of my sixth month and still not as good as my first pregnancy.

When I had gained 26 lbs., the midwife complained about my weight and thought it could be contributing to my breathing problem. Funny, before I became pregnant I walked almost an hour or more everyday and had not problem with breathing and not as much as a problem with tiredness and not weakness whatsoever.

I have been pregnant once before three years ago and was just about the same weight I am now. After the third month, I felt like a champ as long as I sleep long enough at night and took a nap sometimes. My pregnancy was great. My blood pressure was just a little high but okay. I did end up with full fledged eclampsia in my 35th week. This is not linked directly to being overweight and, in fact, no is absolutely sure what causes it. There are lots of theories out there.

Also I have been this heavy and heavier while not pregnant and I worked full-time, taught country dance lessons twice a week, worked in my flower garden, and helped my elderly grandmother with cooking and housework. Without the problems I am having now.

I guess what my point is if it is the weight, why not have all these problems before? Even though I have not felt so well with this pregnancy, my blood pressure during this pregnancy has been lower than it was when I was 16 years old and fit. Explain that one, doc?

Now listen to the ironic thing. These past few weeks I have been able to get out and walk again, do a lot of my daily activities much easier and starting to feel much better overall. Today I had a checkup and my BP has crept up 15 points on the bottom number to 130/90.

I guess I am being a bit pissy because I am stressed, nervous, and worried and it just irritates that people seem to think that being overweight is the root to all your problems.

Sorry for rambling.

I think this thread is great and a wonderful motivator to remember why we need to take care of ourselves.

Best to you all!

captxray
Thu, May-06-04, 14:47
:rolleyes: Just keep doing what you're doing and after the baby comes, you will feel so much better...now, how can I, a man say that? I don't know, really...I just feel bad for you and know you're doing the right thing, that's all. I am so amazed at all you women...putting your lives on the line to bring in new life...I stand in awe of each of you mothers. Incidentally, Happy Almost Mother's Day!! Get it? "Almost Mother's Day" A double meaning...pretty clever, huh?...well, it seemed pretty good at the time... Hope your pregnancy works out for the best...Women are so much stronger than we wimpy men.

Stardust
Thu, May-06-04, 15:59
Hey there Capt.:

I just noticed where you are from. Do you know the Twin Lakes area between Reedsport and Coos Bay? My mom and her parents lived there for some years while she was growing up and I have been there on vacation a couple times as a kid. It was so beautiful.

Thanks so much for your vote of confidence. I just want it to go so right this time around. Believe it or not, I am the biggest chicken and whimp on this earth, but I was a real trouper with my daughter three years ago and I was proud of myself for that.

Thanks for your witty Mother's Day wish.

Wow, you are kicking fanny on your plan. Keep up the great work.

Just Dave
Thu, May-06-04, 17:43
hmmm this is a close to the heart thing for most of us, But I think I would list them for me,

1. I hate my 10 year old son admits that he is embrassed about me when his friends are about, and actually feels bad telling me so.

2. I hate that I am being short changed for all the wonderful things I do and kindnesses I show people, that others do not, because people think I must do this to get people to like me because I am not pleasing to look at.

3. I hate when people think I am a poor choice for advice about loosing weight, because of my shape. I have a theory, you wouldn't go to a foot doctor to learn about youR ears, so why do people think someone who never had a weight problem has the skinny on loosing weight.



Then all that other stuff people mentioned..

lilgizmo
Thu, May-06-04, 18:00
I am very uncomfortable in this body (I was not meant to be fat) I see ppl who are overweight, wearing clothes I would not be seen in public in (would not be caught DEAD in, either!). THEY are comfortable in their body, and apparently think they look alright that way. I see nothing attractive about my fat...It is gross...I am lucky that my girlfriend is not bothered by it. It took me almost 1 1/2 years of the 2 we have been living together to be able to let her see me without clothes on. It was a horrific experience...cannot EVEN convey that feeling I had the 1st time I took off my clothes in front of her. She was sweet about it...told me she loved me, no matter. That if we were going to be together for life, that I better trust that she did love me no matter. Still....OMG I will never forget that feeling....I am ok with it now...she is still here, loving me...I look forward to the day that I am PROUD to stand naked in front of the mirror AND her ;)
Another reason I hate being fat is a HATE sweating....I am always hot, b/c I don't wanna dress for the weather (ya know...cover the fat)
I hate the looks from skinny ppl Like I am a 3rd rate citizen...It makes me so sad...
I hate diabetes, and having to give myself a shot...
I know there is more...but these are the biggies...

Monstarr
Thu, May-06-04, 23:06
Hey Delilah, Id like to talk with you. I kinda have depression problems too, sometimes they get worse, sometimes they get better, but as of late mostly worse. I was wonderin if you wouldnt mind talkin with me n emailin back and forth?

captxray
Fri, May-07-04, 10:25
:) I'm not familiar with the Twin Lakes area...but I've heard of it...I live on the Eastern Side of the Cascades in the Great Basin by the only lake and river that drains from the basin into the ocean...I think :confused: It's a great place...I can see the huge hiulk of Mt Shasta on the southern horizon and the Cascades are right in my back yard...I go hiking or fishing within about twenty minutes of where I live...haven't even gotten a bite this year, but I still love going down to the lake and tossing in my line and enjoying watching nature around me. My true love, though is the High Sierras and I go on about three hikes a year with my brother, who lives in Carson City, right next to them. Not that long ago, before I started this "diet," I had given up on ever backpacking again...I can't believe what a great thing this woe has done for ME! Being fat is one thing for the self-esteem, but for what it does to my spirit, that's much worse...now, that I'm in so much better shape, I look forward to getting up in the morning and thinking about my future hikes...it has given me a future, instead of just feeling like I was waiting to die as a fat, blubbery couch potato with high blood pressure and poor health...a guy who caught a cold about every three weeks. I don't get sick, any more! I'm a school teacher in one of my jobs and I'm surrounded by sick kids who sneeze all over me, but I don't get sick! I also work at Home Depot in the Garden Department as a Nursery Consultant and that is hard, hot, heavy work and back-breaking, at times...I could NEVER have done it without losing the weight and building up my lean body tissue from this woe. Even though I am on Neanderthin, it was inspired by the good Doctor Atkins and that man, rest his soul in a great place, saved my life!

wisdomom
Fri, May-07-04, 20:23
Wow, what a question. Why do I hate being fat?
-It's a self-esteem killer
-I feel about 80 years old
-I can't walk much, or run at all without getting too winded
-I can't play with my kids like they and I would love for me to
-Double or triple chins
-Can't really do my own toenails without nearly killing myself
-Having to worry will I be able to fit in the seat wherever I'm going
-Having to hear from my child that the kids at school make fun of him or her because I'm so fat
-Feeling so self conscious around almost everyone I come in contact with
-Having people ask me when my baby is due, and I'm not pregnant
-Catching people laughing at me
-Ugly clothes, or looking like a blob in nice clothes
-It's really hard to be sexual when you feel so completely unsexy
-The way I feel in my soul is not matching the way my body feels
-Stretch marks
-Ok, I hate everything about it!

lilgizmo
Sat, May-08-04, 13:29
darrklove...it is not your imagination....DWRolfe a cutie! And more importantly, he seems to be a very nice person from the posts I have read!

potatofree
Sat, May-08-04, 15:58
All of the above...plus:

The squeezy, nagging tightness of the waistband of the jeans that used to be too loose cutting into my stomach.

Being the one all the guys confide in about the one they think is SO beautiful.... but it's not you, it's a 98-lb bimbo.

Not being able to get in the pool with my son without a glance around to see who's looking at my flab. I still get IN the pool since he loves it so, but I could do without the self-conscious dash between clothes and water!

The sight of hanging flabalanches when I get out of the shower. Either the flab goes or the mirror does!

lilgizmo
Sat, May-08-04, 16:44
ODDSOCK.....lmao....I thought the same thing "but try to find ONE larger size that doesn't look like it was designed by evil matrons in the 1940's???" Thanks for that!

Cali_Girl
Sat, May-08-04, 21:07
I so relate to this topic and everything you all have said!

* I hate having to gauge spaces ...will I fit or won't I? Like in restaurants, I want the inside chair...not the one on the end of the table that the waitress has to scoot by my big butt every time she needs to pass the table.

* OMG...I have BROKEN a couple chairs in public. :cry: There isn't an emoticon that expresses the horrific embarrassment of THAT!!! Did you see that scene in Shallow Hal? I related to that in WAY to personal a way!! :) ...although thank goodness I haven't broken an entire booth...lol

* I hate that the lady who does my nails keeps trying to get me to have stomach surgery. And that the hairdresser saves diets out of magazines for me.

Ok..I guess those are the biggies for me...

On the bright side...I have a happy life and a loving family...and I'm losing weight since I started LCing!!! :hyper:

GabrielleG
Sat, May-08-04, 22:44
I'm not sure if this applies to everyone but at my heaviest my thighs would rub together so much that after a semi long walk I would feel raw. I call it making bacon( not sure where I got that from but it seemed fiting at the time). I once went to a concert that was standing room only and I had so much trouble getting up and siting down. it was embarrassing. I also hated not being able to find clothing that didn't make me look like a guy or worse older then I was.

Gabrielle

jillinmo
Sun, May-09-04, 07:55
Everyone from my husband and son to my sister and mother are thin. They have never been overweight any of them. They love camping and moreso love water sports. I cringe inside when they begin planning one of these outings. The thought of wearing a bathing suit in public sickens me to the point of actual nausea. I could probably go on with complaints but here is a list of complaints on why I HATE being fat!

1. I hate not being able to cross my legs without holding them with one hand.

2. I hate when people tell me, "You have such a beautiful face, you would be a knockout if you'd just lose the weight!"

3. I hate when my mother-in-law announces that she made some special food dish just because I was coming, as if the only thing I respond to is food.

4. I hate grocery shopping because I don't like the "looks" I get when I have anything remotely fattening in my shopping cart.

5. Lastly, I hate being fat because I have an incredibly attractive husband and I see these thin, beautiful women checking him out all the time. I feel like they look at me and wonder what in the hell he is doing with someone like me.

brdgrl
Sun, May-09-04, 10:00
I hate being fat. I hate it for all the reasons everyone here has mentioned. I hate it because when I was in junior high someone I did not even know jumped on my back and "rode" me down the hall. I hate it because I have been sent "secret admirer" letters as jokes (as if I haven't been laughed at enough to understand that those letters were not real). I hate it because I'm paranoid that when guys are nice to me, there is a practical joke somewhere in the background.

I also love it too. I use my fat to protect me from people who might not like me ("well, they are just shallow because they can't see past the fat"); I was raised a real Southern Lady, so my fat prevents me from being in situations where I might actually have to tell someone I am not interested in him (a horrible thing for a "lady" to do. And yes, I know how twisted that one is, but it takes a long time to grow out of such things); it allows me to stay in safe emotional territory around most people in my world.

I depend on my fat. The hardest thing for me in this WOL is that I am still going to have all those issues to deal with after I lose the weight. When I am thin, I am not going to magically gain self-confidence. I must learn, first and foremost, to believe in my own intrinsic self-worth. The rest will follow. Then I will no longer need my fat.

Making strides toward that goal: I teach junior college. I virtually never think about how I look in front of a classroom. My kids respond to me, to the way I try to make boring grammatical points interesting, to the crazy stories I tell, and the way I joke in the classroom.
I actually put my heart right out there for someone recently and was rejected. You know what? I'm gonna live. I'm going to be OK.
The hardest thing yet is coming to grips with the fact that some people will never like me, even if I am thin and beautiful. There will be things in my personality that rub people the wrong way. No matter how hard I try, I will never be everything to everyone, and soon I won't have my fat to blame their rejection on.
Thank you all for this thread. Thank you for letting me ramble. Thank you for providing a supportive community.
Birdie
PS Donald is WAY hot!

justmoony
Sun, May-09-04, 10:51
I hate being fat because I hate how it makes me think less of myself. I worry about how people view me professionally - like I am not in control even of my own body, how can I manage my programs?
I hate to go to new restuarants because I worry that they may have flimsy chairs and I will break one. I hate sitting at friends houses, too, for fear that I might break their antique dining chairs. GOD that sucks! I am literally just WAITING for that to happen!
I hate how all the cute clothes only look good on skinnies (whose ranks I hope to join in the next 18 months).
I hate how I realized I can't dance with any style or grace because I feel like I am bouncing all over and look ridiculous.
I hate how out-of-control I feel about all aspects of my life when I cannot get my health under control. Like I am spinning and can't stop.
I hate how fearful I am that, as a newly single women, I will never attract another mate who is really interested in me.
I hate how fearful I am of the changes that will inevitably occur in my world once I reach my goal weight. My fat helps protect me in a way, from those things I desperately want, but am AFRAID OF.
For me, FEAR = FAT. and I HATE THAT (oh, I'm a poet and I didn't KNOW IT!)

Thanks for starting this thread. Its a thought provoking exercise.

Holly

Kris S
Sun, May-09-04, 12:35
I hate the assumption that I lack drive and ambition.

I grew up in near poverty. I worked my way through college. I've worked in the accounting and insurance field. I'm currently working as the sole office person for a small company...for considerably more income than either of the two more "glamorous" jobs provided. Each and every job I've taken has had a purpose on the path of starting a business of my own. (Making my image match my future company is my sole motivation at this time.)

I hate the assumption that I'm desperate enough to date any man who shows interest in me.

I've dated men who were marketing directors to business owners and professional engine builders (IHRA/NHRA) to factory workers. Some of these men treated me with dignity and respect...and those who didn't were uncerimoniously dumped on their backsides--just the same as ANY other woman. However, unlike my thinner sisters, the men I've dated have been interested in more serious relationships instead of casual sex--one of the bonuses of being overweight.

I exercise. I don't spend my days sitting around doing nothing. I still buy myself cute sexy panties. I don't spend my weekends alone unless it's my choice. People tend to like me.

In short, I'm content with myself as a person. I'm obese, but that doesn't define me or my role in life. Sure, a person can make assumptions all day, but s/he is typically proven wrong.

Monstarr
Sun, May-09-04, 20:14
Probably one fo the things i wonder if anyone else here as ever felt ansd if you have dont cover it up with words, just say so. When somebody mentions how beautfiul or attractive someone of your same sex is, it makes you cringe without having to even see the person first just because yuour obese. DOes anyone here understand what Im saying?

loserbaby
Sun, May-09-04, 20:26
I hated the "you have such a pretty face" comment. I used to think "gee thanks, and what does that make the rest of me?". But now I don't get it as much. Now I hate the people who ask me how much I've lost, especially those who are a size 2. I tell them " alot". That's all they really need to know.

tomsej
Mon, May-10-04, 21:59
I hate being fat because my 6 year old uses my belly as a semaphore.

He giggles it to get my attention, especially when I'm on the phome.

It jiggles enough by itself don't you know!

:) :) :) :D :D :D

Tom.

srd0821
Tue, May-11-04, 11:44
1. Can't play with my kids
2. Can't shave "all" my legs
3. Can't see my feet
4. My kids call me "big momma"
5. The sex. Well, the sex is limited to a couple of positions
6. Body soap is so expensive (haha)
7. I hate wearing the biggest size I can find, only for that not to be be big enough
8. I hate the way my stomach hangs down below my shirt
9. What happened to my neck? Anyone seen it? I know I use to have one!
10. My hips knock over things in their path
11. Can't paint my toenails
12. I hate looking in the mirror and not recognizing myself
13. I hate the looks I get
14. I hate the side effects of being fat: umbilical hernia's, poor circulation, heartburn, etc.

one more:
15. I hate feeling that the only thing keeping me from beig happy is my weight.

TerryD
Thu, May-13-04, 13:05
This is amazing -- just this morning I sat down and wrote a list of the things I hate about being fat, and then I went online and found this discussion! Anyway, here goes (in no particular order)
I hate:
Getting breathless climbing up a flight of stairs
Wearing a size 40DD bra
Backaches from my distended pendulous breasts
Chronically sore, tired feet
Always feeling exhausted
Feeling like I get in my own way
My bloated face and double chin
Having no neck
Rolls of fat around my middle
Thick swollen ankles
Sweating profusely no matter how hot or cold it is
Shopping in the plus size department; the lack of choices of nice looking clothes
Being unable to cross my legs
My huge, flabby underarms
My butt hanging over both sides of a chair
Cringing at my reflection
Dreading the approach of warm weather season because I can't hide behind extra layers of clothing/coats
Dreading people seeing me
Hiding in the house/under clothes/beneath layers of fat
:cry: Having no energy to run in the park with my 6 year old son

Started Atkins on May 2 - have lost 6 lbs so far, want to lose 75. Sick and tired of having this struggle as an issue in my life. Sorry this is so long. Thanks for letting me vent.

LCchickFL
Thu, May-13-04, 13:16
I want to start a motivational section called WHY I HATE BEING FAT!!!! Then every time I even have the slightest thought to go off my diet, I can come back here and look and see why I MUST STAY IN CONTROL!!!!!!
Well, rather than saying why I hate being fat, I think I'll list why I want to be healthy/fit and stick to my new WOL. (I'd rather have my motivation come from a positive rather than a negative.)

1. I want to live a long life w/o serious ailments.
2. I like the way eating LC makes me feel. (No heartburn, no depression, no food obsession, etc.)
3. Because I'm worth it!
4. I like being able to participate in life rather than sitting on the sidelines b/c I'm physically incapable of doing what everyone else is doing.
5. I like going to a restaurant, movie theater, someone's house, etc. without worrying about whether I'll 'fit' in their chairs or not.
6. People are less immediately judgemental when you are a more average size.
7. I like not having to take prescription meds anymore.
8. I've met some fabulous people at various online support sites. :)

jmacdonald
Thu, May-13-04, 13:26
I have read most of the replies to this thread and amen to all of your
(Collectively) reasons!

Mine:

To be as healthy as I can be.
To promote longer duration of time before my hip would need replacing.
Right now they wouldn't even do that operation on me because you have to weigh below a certain amount.
To hopefully get off high blood pressure medication.

Hey I am not looking to be "all that". I just want to get down to a reasonable, manageable weight that corrects the above afflictions etc. :D

jemman
Thu, May-13-04, 13:28
geez- u got all my "hates" covered. this post was great. i just want to add that not for nothing, i'm happy that God gave me this struggle. i'm glad i've had this experience. i'm happy to have met all of you. its given me so much. it's made me a better, stronger, wiser person. i've read so many books on nutrition that i'm blessed to be able to pass on the gift of healthy living to my children. its not a matter of being fat or skinny to me (although who wouldnt love losing 100 pounds) its a matter of being active, comfortable, confident, with some self esteem. its a matter of being healthy- i bet most of us are healthier than all of our skinny friends. and i bet our kids are eating better too. i know mine are. they went from eating out- mostly BK & McDs 3-4 times a week- to not having eaten out in over a month- atleast. they watch less tv because mama takes them for walks, takes them out to ride their bike, to the park, etc, etc. i would never have all that i do- the knowledge, the power, the wisdom- that i have now had i been born with the eat-all-u-want-and-never-gain-a-pound gene.

AndieBama
Thu, May-13-04, 16:19
feeling ugly...that's what I hate the most.

Selena26
Mon, May-24-04, 20:31
1. I want to feel and look sexy.
2. I want my husand to look at me and think "hot damn"
3. I want to be able to play with my girls at the park before they are to old and do not want to play anymore.
4. I want to go to my girls school and not wonder if they are going to be made fun of for having a "fat Mommy"
5. I want to be able to wear a swimming suit not a whale suit at my local pool.
6. I want to be able to look at myself in the mirror again and stop thinking, you have a pretty face. I want to say You are gorgeous.
7. I want to buy clothes at a regular store.
8. I want to go to the grocery store and buy food with out wondering what people are saying and thinking about me while I am there.
9. I want to be able to climb stairs without feeling like I am going to die.
10. I want to be a girl. One that wears cute clothes not big cover my ass clothes.
11. I want me. I want to be me. I am tired of being this person that I have become. I WILL BE ME AGAIN! :heart:

JanJ
Tue, May-25-04, 07:24
I don't want my underwear to roll under my belly anymore.
I don't want to call them underwear - I want to call them panties...

Zymi
Tue, May-25-04, 08:10
My pet peeves about being fat...
1. Being afraid or knowing that some/alot(?) of people look at me and only see my fat.

2. Looking at plus size catalogues and seeing mostly moo-moos or styles from the 80s....bascially styles that won't flatter a big woman at all!

3. Sweating so much..ick.

4. My chubby face, which usually sticks with me until the end!

5. The dating scene....tends to draw out a lot of people's superficiality. I was at a friend's house the other day and one of her guy friends was being set up on a blind date. What is the first thing he asks? "What does she look like?" I mean, he could be attracted to a person's eyes and be inquiring about that...but that kind of stuff always makes me self conscious. It's like those blind-date shows that a friend of mine watches..I think one of them is Elimidate(?) (People are set up on a date..and they are almost always painfully superficial. Once the date ends, you usually get to see the dates diss each other.) I'm a bit of a shy person/loner, so I don't know a lot of people...I hope these shows aren't indicative of what the rest of the population is like! Those people are so shallow and immature! ugh!

**zymi ends ramble** :)

norrodb
Tue, May-25-04, 13:16
All the reasons listed above.

My biggest... Being able to take my shirt off in public. I am so socially self conscious, it became a disorder. Since age 12, I was the fat kid in school. Gym class was tramatic. It's a shame, because turns out, I really am strong and athletic. I have never been able to swim in a public pool, and sit on a public beach. When I was placed at those places, I sat on the sidelines and watched everyone else.

My social disorder caused me to be very shy and quit. Of couse aging helps get over some of that. But it doesn't stop one from being consumed by self image in public.

This woe has changed me in many ways. I have so much confidence now that I feel like I am on top of the world. Still not to the point of taking my shirt off in public , but getting close. At least I can wear a single layer of tee-shirt in public now without caring.


Brent

TwilightZ
Tue, May-25-04, 14:30
All the reasons listed above.

My biggest... Being able to take my shirt off in public. I am so socially self conscious, it became a disorder.

Yes, Brent, I went through the exact same thing. When forced to play basketball in gym class, one team was the shirts, the other the skins. I always prayed to be the shirts. The same with swimming, etc. And, yes, I enjoy sports and being active, too. Even embarrassed in front of my wife.

The worst was when I sat in a friend's office chair and it literally broke and collapsed under me. How embarrassing is that?! I vow these incidents are gone forever.

Howard

sophotia
Tue, May-25-04, 16:52
1) I hate terms fat/overweight/thick or BBW used to describe me.

2) I hate thinking I'm being turned down for a job because I dont have the "right" appearance for the company.

3) I hate my bulbous arse. I really have a flat a$$ and I'm so okay and look forward to having that again.

4) I hate my front butt (abdomen)

5) Hate people telling me that my daughter got her cheeks from me just because my face is fat. If that's the case all babies look like me.

frothybake
Tue, May-25-04, 22:07
First of all I guess I have been so consumed with myself that I truly did not realize that others had the booth vs table problem, how horrible is that to think always only about yourself? Would love to join a gym, too embarassed, hate looking around the room and knowing I'm the fattest one , hearing my Mom say it is such a shame about Beckie, she was such a darling little kid, she say's it under her breath but just loud enough for ME to hear.Hate avoiding get togethers with old friends because I don't want them to see what I've become. I guess the worst though is keeping a DR that I know isn't the best for me only because his nurse ( the one that weighs everyone ) is around my size and totally understands and gives me the confident boost to get thru the appointment. ( guess it is time to find a new DR

adkpam
Wed, May-26-04, 11:33
The old 'she's got such a pretty face, too bad she's so fat' comment. What's up with that? I've seen some really horrendous looking skinny people. Should I start saying "she's got such a nice body, too bad about that nose?"

OMG! It's a good thing I wasn't drinking or it would have gone up my nose!

That's a keeper!

And let me add, yes, DWRolfe is a VERY attractive fellow! Those blue eyes! That compassion and sense of humor!

I know he's taken, and so am I. But it never hurts to give a compliment.

ValerieL
Wed, May-26-04, 11:58
I hate having lost 83 lbs (126 from my top weight ever!) and still being obese!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's ALMOST discouraging!

Valerie

kcshowman
Thu, May-27-04, 19:20
I'm a fat 32 year old.
I was a fat 30 year old.
I was a fat 25 year old.
I was a fat 20 year old.
I was a fat 15 year old.
I was a fat 10 year old.
I was a fat 5 year old.
Hell, when I came out, I was 22 inches and 10 pounds 11 ounces...and a week late to boot!

I've never known a thin day in my life. I've never known how the 'other half' lives. I was a bit intuitive though, in grade school...prided myself on being the biggest kid in my grade. Had a killer throw in dodgeball, seldom got hit, always had at least two inches in height on everybody else (I'm 6'). Time went on, things got crueller, I retreated, the others were encouraged, and I retreated more. I was smart until I was 16, then I just lost interest in grades, school, anything, save theatre. I played Oscar in The Odd Couple my senior year of high school. My best friend, one of the skinniest people in school, played Felix, and we were a hit.

High school ended, real life began, my lack of self-confidence came to the fore and developed into full-blown Avoidant Personality Disorder. Still dealing with that one, and it's gotten worse.

I hate being fat.

I hate being ignored.

I hate being noticed.

I hate being the friend.

I hate being asked to put in a good word with someone.

I hate having only memories of ...pity dates, massive insecurities, social faux pas that would make anyone cringe, sympathy sex, and feeling disgusted with myself for things I've done in the name of not being alone, if but for an hour or a night.

I hate never being asked to go places with people at work, as if I'm beneath them.

I hate never feeling like going anywhere where there might be other people.

I hate the way I have to bend and move in my job and the fact that it hurts for hours afterward (apartment maintenance).

I hate... well, in general, I hate being alive.

Outside of fleeting moments of joy, usually when I'm on stage playing 'the friend' or 'the bad guy' or 'the comic relief' or 'the heavy' in a play, or lately directing as well, I don't really have any good reasons to keep going. No memories to try to resurrect. No dreams or ambitions that don't sound petty or vengeful--oh, yeah, I've dreamt about being a svelte muscleboy, finding some 'hot girl', leading her on, using her, getting all her hopes up, then delivering the 'I just think of you as a friend' or 'aw, you're so sweet, have a good life.' But I can't do that. I don't know what a happy relationship feels like, but I know what pain feels like, and I don't want any part of causing hurt like that.

I'm tired of being alive and alone. Once I get thin, once I get...normal looking, what do I do then? I don't have a clue.

revrose
Fri, May-28-04, 13:44
I have been so discouraged lately about not losing weight feeling like why bother. This thread really put things in perspective for me. there were so many replies but the one who wrote about always being the photographer and never in the photos really hit home. This week I had to put together a pre-adoptive family album and realized that since I 've been overweight (12 years now)there were no pictures of me. Looking back over the years it was like I was absent from every family function and vacation. I am definitely motivated now. THIS WAS A LIFE CHANGING THREAD. THANKS

alicat
Sat, Jun-05-04, 11:09
God, I am sooo not alone! Pretty much everythings already been said but I'll list my hates too.

I hate that I basically missed my 20's and am starting in on my 30's not living life because of being overweight and out of shape.

I too hate the horrendous plus size clothes that I have to wear that are so not my style. What are the designers thinking? As if at my weight what I really need is to be wearing glaring colors or huge floral prints :rolleyes:. I also hate that I've missed out on 15 years of fashions that I couldn't wear.

I hate that as a natural water baby, I'm so mortifyed at the thought of wearing a swim suit and what others will think that I never go swimming. And I live 6 blocks from Lake Michigan!!!

I hate living with constant back pain that makes me want to cry sometimes.

I hate that while some women truly do have beautiful faces while being overweight that mine is so round that my features are completely distorted. I don't look anything like myself and I used to be considered beautiful.

I hate that for 4 years while being my heaviest, I've completely given up on my looks. I don't wear make-up or do my nails or do anything special with my hair (it's long, down to my butt, and I just throw it up in a barrette). I feel so ugly it's like why bother until I lose weight and am more attractive.

I hate that my wonderful DH who loves me the way I am doesn't get the best of me in the bedroom because I'm so out of shape and self-concious.

I hate having high blood pressure and fearing at any moment I'm going to have a heart attack or stroke.

I hate going into a dressing room and seeing my HUGE hanging stomach, stretchmarks, rolls, cellulite, displayed under glaring florescent light :mad:.

I hate only managing 15 minutes of walking or bike riding for exercise. Is it really even helping?

I hate always having a messy house because I just don't have the energy to stay on top of everything (DH deserves better).

I hate not doing all the things I want to: gardening, hiking, taking walks, swimming, roller blading, having an active sex life, being social, going back to college, etc..

Overall I can't think of anything positive about being overweight except as others have said, learning tolerence towards others. I do love myself and my life but it would be so much more enriched if I wasn't hindered by my weight. This is a great thread and has really helped me realize that outside of my own little Ali world, there are so many of you that have lived through what I have and am. All of you on this forum with your support and encouragement really make my journey much more tolerable. Thanks guys! :)

Ali

Aprilellen
Sat, Jun-05-04, 11:38
Boy!
Ali you have voiced everything about me it sounds just like me.
just keep going that is what I have to tell myself everyday and any movement helps burn calories some evenings I sit in a chair and grab some excercise bands and do some arm and leg resistance excercises just keep trying you can do it...Aprilellen

Cheryl R
Sat, Jun-05-04, 22:41
So I have a question....

Now that we all know why we hate bing fat...

What are we going to do about it?

Aprilellen
Sun, Jun-06-04, 06:52
Ill tell you what Im gonna do
Im gonna become one of the biggest losers I can be
Im gonna lose lose lose lose lose go go go go go
everybody now LOSE.....aprilellen

simplydawn
Sun, Jun-06-04, 08:15
Don't know if someone posted this already..just found this thread, and I am flying thru..but I really hate being fat in the SUMMER TIME... being uncomfy.. hot..sweaty..in areas that shouldnt be sweaty..and then dealing with heat rashes in those very same areas.. I HATE that!

Cheryl R
Sun, Jun-06-04, 08:52
I just went back in this thread and read more.... boy oh boy ... I've been back on Atkins induction lately and starting to feel better... but this thread and reminding me of all the reasons I hate being fat... has put a new motivation in me. I've had a great week.... and I'm planning on a big loss at my weigh in Tuesday night... (My unreliable scale at home has been showing losses) We have 5 tuesdays in June which gives me 5 weigh ins. I've decided this is going to be my biggest weight loss month in years. I've never lost over 8 pounds in one month that I've recorded my weight in a weight loss group... which goes back about 4 years. That was in a 5 tuesday mont too. I lost 1 on week one. Now I need to lose 2 each week after, but my induction has gone really well now for 4 days... I had blown it on Wednesday (one big infraction in the evening.. but no sugar) but I had been on induction Mon-Tue-Wed also. I really think I'm going to get a 3-4 pound loss Tuesday!!!!

arianna_t
Sun, Jun-06-04, 11:06
Hello! I'm a pre-diabetic.

and I want to be healthy!

I want my hormones to be right so I can have a baby.

I want to raise my future childre with GOOD health habits.

and.....

I want to fin pantyhoses that fit...

No such luck here in Mexico.

At least not the sexy stuff, I want to wear.

have a nice day

Arianna

Tedmom
Sun, Jun-06-04, 13:25
I hate being fat because:

1) DD has to face other kids with a fat mom;
2) Can't ski at present weight;
3) Can't horseback ride at present weight;
4) Have a closet full of beautiful clothes that I cannot wear;
5) Afraid of dying too young;
6) Tired of being tired all of the time.
These are just a few of the top reasons why I'm here and need to stick with this WOE.

gandktahoe
Sun, Jun-06-04, 14:04
I am tired of all those things and more!!! I hate having wing-flaps on my arms. I want to wear a sleeveless blouse! I would like to look good in a bathing suit (I'm 55 years old so no bikini for me-just a one piece suit) on our next cruise. I want my grandkids to be proud of me.
And to KCShowman...hang in there, man. See a counselor to help you get over that depression. I was a fat kid, too. I was fat when I got married. I was fat when I got divorced. I was fat when I got married the second time. Who you are should have nothing to do with your weight. I will be thinking positive thoughts for you. And think ahead to your high school reunion!! You can show up all those people who could not look past your size to see the great guy inside. Oo-Rah!! :clap: :clap:

LakeSimcoe
Sun, Jun-06-04, 14:45
This is an excellent thread. I have read alot of your reasons and can relate to many. I think the one that bothered me the most in the summer was lawn chairs.

FionaMcB
Sun, Jun-06-04, 14:50
Have you ever cleaned your whole bathroom, and not looked in the mirror once? That's just one of the reasons I want to lose weight. The rest are all health and ego, the emotional stuff is the most important.

Monstarr
Fri, Jun-18-04, 15:09
Nobody ever responds to anything in this thing. Maybe we ougtta have a chatroom or something similar :idea:

GrlyGrl
Fri, Jun-18-04, 15:28
I hate being fat because I cannot find any clothes to buy. I am too fat for Petites -- they usually stop at 14's. But women's sizes are not proportioned right for short women. Even if I get sleeves and hems shortened (which costs a pretty penny) the shoulders are ridiculous, lapels oversized and crotches way too low.

Sandy39
Fri, Jun-18-04, 17:45
Why I hate being FAT!

Can there be a longer list: can't walk, can't swim, won't be seen in a bathing suit, staring people, sore knees, can't find clothes, depression, world is closed to morbidly obese, Can't fit in any chairs usually, embarassed 24/7, pay for two airplane seats, housebound because of embarassment and can't walk too far, just sooooooo unhappy.

Well it took a lot to get this way and a lot of troubles and pain but I really feel like it is behind me now. I will not stop or turn back where could I go.
I know how bad it was before and I'm already feeling better.

So with the help of Jesus I know I can do all things

Sandy

bob2112
Fri, Jun-18-04, 18:00
Sandy you have a great attitude!! You will definitely make it :) Keep up the good work.

tina-mich
Fri, Jun-18-04, 20:15
Why I hate being fat?? I am so embarrased of my weight this is the heaviest that I have ever been. In four years I have put on so much weight that I can't believe that this is me. Not finding any clothes that fit. Don't have much energy to do housework like I used to. My back, knee, and heels hurt. I used to do so many things before like sitting on the grass now I'm afraid I won't be able to get up. Going to plays, football games, hockey games, etc. now I'm afraid if there isn't a railing to hold on to I might trip and fall. I don't lose weight very fast that after a couple of weeks I get discouraged. So far I have been doing Atkins for 9 days it's been hard but I have to do it so that I can enjoy my life like I did before.

LcMamaInFL
Fri, Jun-18-04, 22:11
I hear ya on the loooooooooong list of why I hate being fat. You've done
great though -- 20 lbs in 2 months is nothing to sneeze at.

Fat or thin...you're beautiful.

Keep smiling :)

Cynthia :there: :rheart:

jdreams76
Fri, Jun-18-04, 22:42
Why i hate being fat.. I wear my jeans sometimes and i know they are to tight after i eat or drink anything and i have to unbutton thembecause i literally get owies on my stomach from them!! But they make my legs look long and thinner! BLah i should just toss em but i amhoping that i eventually get to wear them without the s/e's :)

Cheryl R
Tue, Jun-22-04, 10:03
Sandy... I love your attitude... YOU GO GIRL!!!

Zymi
Tue, Jun-22-04, 15:21
I was a fat kid, too. I was fat when I got married. I was fat when I got divorced. I was fat when I got married the second time. Who you are should have nothing to do with your weight.
I really like what you said Gandktahoe. :) At each stage we can be of a certain description, but that description isn't who we "are". Sure I am fat now, but weight doesn't define me, it describes me. It keeps me in the perspective that I can change things in my life.

I think part of the problem is the attitude people have against weight. You can get used to being lumped into a category, like being a "fat person", and start to believe that's who you are since a pretty large portion of the environment decides to put you in that category with all their ill-conceived, preconceived ideas of what a "fat person" is. Society's focus on the external doesn't help anyone remember that fat is not who you are, it is where you are at the moment. I'm not blaming society entirely...I just irks me when I see stereotypes and how they effect people.

LizzyMc
Tue, Jun-22-04, 15:48
Why I hate being fat.... sounds like an essay question, so in 1,000 words or less, haa haa....

At different times, it has meant different things.

In my youth, I hated being fat because my mom bought my clothes from the Sears catalog from the chubby girls section. The clothes were always polyester and extremely ugly. I wanted to wear go-go boots or cowboy boots, but my calfs were too fat. I wanted to run like Patty Duke-Astin in a movie where the beat of the music makes her run faster. I wanted to not be made fun of.

In my teens, I hated being fat because I was always hearing, "you would be so pretty if you just lost some weight" or "I will buy you a whole new wardrobe if you just lose some weight" like I was ugly and did not deserve good clothes? It did not stop me from doing what I wanted though, still was a cheerleader, still played baseball (made all-stars), still had boyfriends... but it would have been nice.

In my young adult years, I hated being fat because I always wanted to know what it was like to look pregnant when you were pregnant instead of just looking fatter when you were pregnant. I hated going to my kid's school and feeling overly large compared to the other mothers... but, still had kids, still was the PTO president.

In my middle-age years, I hate being fat because time is clicking away. I still have things I want to do. Being fat never really affected me. I still rode motorcycles, went on long hikes, played mud-football, did all the things I wanted to do. But, I let an extra 75 pounds creep on me. I could do anything at 215, but not at 300+. The doctor never gave me 10 years to live at 215, but they did at 300+. My knees did not hurt, my hips did not ache, and to be real bluntly honest, sex was a hell of a lot better.

I am going to get my calves into a pair of cowboy boots though, and wear beautiful clothes, and ride some roller-coasters.... I am going to travel and not have to wear an extension for the seat belt on the plane.... but the best part of this way of life, I am going to live for another 30 or 40 or maybe even 50 years.....

Jello256
Tue, Jun-22-04, 17:19
I hate being fat because;
-I'm too busy wondering what people are thinking about me instead of living life fully.
-I want to run, play, swim and be carefree without being afraid of "looks" or being ridiculed.
-I want to be a part of the family pictures, without hiding in the back row.
-I want to be able to look in the mirror at my full body instead of just my head.
-I want to have energy.
-I want to feel good about myself.
-I want to be able to walk into a store and buy nice clothes.
-I want to be able to buy clothes because I like them, not because that's what they have in my size.
-I want to be comfortable in my own skin.
-I want to never hear again "She has such a pretty face", and then they sigh sadly.
-I want to be healthy.

alicat
Wed, Jun-23-04, 00:28
Although I'm younger than you, what you had to say really struck me. I too, even at my age, really feel time ticking away. Ever since my dad had a heart attack 2 yrs. ago, I have been inately aware of my mortality. Before then it was always a vanity issue. Although my experience is inverted it was just as painfull. 11 years ago (on my b-day, at age 22) I had my first and only child, Lorin. He was born w/ an extremely rare disorder called Miller-Dieker Syndrome (main manifestation was a condition called lissencephally).
Due to the high reaccurance rate of another child suffering from the same disorder (25-50%), I don't think I will ever have a child unless we adopt.

Due to extenuating circumstances, I had to have a c-section w/ him. But, no one ever said a word to me while I was pregnant and then after I had had my son and was just at my natural (yeah, right :o) heavy weight (about 180 ibs. ~ 5'2")I had the first and last comment from someone who thought I was preggers.

I hope to not have to have my doctor give me an altematim (sp?) by following the LC way of eating. I was heartened by your post and I too hope to live another 40+ yrs..

Love, Ali

Dagger
Wed, Jun-23-04, 17:07
I don't have 100 lbs to go but as far as I'm concerned, I may as well. Every person is different and I know I am lacking major self-esteem, in general

And even more reasons:

-I don't ever again want to have to sew up the inner thigh of my pants because they ripped from erosion from my thighs rubbing together

-I want to be able to spontaneously have sex, wherever, whenever....day, night, lights, not.. whatever. I'd get more explicit but I'm sure we all have our own sentiments

-I want to be able to honestly purchase the first swimsuit of my life (now that I recently moved from up north to N.C., I live back in a climate where there are beaches...except this time, I'm not 7 years old.) I want to go to the beach or a pool and not wear shorts or a t-shirt. Cellulite, Stretch marks...who cares?

-I want to know that when I sit around watching TV, on the computer, or playing video games it's not because it's habitually become my lifestyle and that I wouldn't actually rather be 'going out' somewhere such as dancing, etc.

-I want to like shopping, and maybe actually be able to go with other people. I don't want to cry in the dressing room. I want to look thin even in their ridiculous fun house mirrors.

-I want to be able to quit smoking but not worry that I'll gain weight when I do, and that if I do gain weight from quitting, I'll be thin enough that I can cope with it and not veer back into eating wrong or taking back up smoking

-I want to be able to wear whatever I want/whenever I want...and even splurge on clothes that even if I don't wear, it's not because I'm too heavy to or they don't look right on me

-I want to actually want to begin living and view the real me for the first time ever. To be able to actually look at old pictures and not cringe that, 'that must be what I look like now' and hide them or rip them up

-I want to wear shorts in this 90 degree weather and not worry about being the chubby, pale (no tan because who wants to do outdoor activities heh) girl with tattoos :P

ToriBess
Thu, Jun-24-04, 19:21
I hate being asked "Do you want a table or a booth?" and having the person seating us look me up and down to see if I would even FIT in the booths they have - and my having to reply "A table" to save myself the embarrassment.

Someday I will shout - "GIMME A BOOTH!!!"

Surrey Mom
Thu, Jun-24-04, 21:48
I hate worrying that I am being judged a "slob". To prevent this, I go to great lengths............perfect manicure, pedicure, hair cut and highlights. .I hate feeling "obligated" to do these things.

Oh, also,,,,,,my husband is great and never complains about my weight. But I know that he sees many other women, all of them much thinner, each day. He deserves to be trusted.........I resent that I have to be paranoid that such a good man will stray.

Cheryl R
Fri, Jun-25-04, 21:33
Ohh... I hate that big question too... would you like a table or a booth... ohhh... I hate that.

Also... people asking me when my baby is due.... I'm so tired of that... I'm 47 and have a 25 year old daughter... can you imagine.

Sneaky2006
Mon, Jun-28-04, 16:06
It took me a long time to read this thread and I figured it would help me if I put my 2 cents in. I laughed a bit and must admit that I had teary eyes a few times too. I am so thankful to have found this site. People who actually understand what this is like...
I know some of these are repeats but I'm only writing what I hate most.
1. I hate being unhealthy
2. I hate being scared of dying when I go to sleep
3. I want to be around a long time for my son and husband.
4. I want my mom to see me thin and healthy for the first time
5. I want to wear cute strappy sandals not wide-ass shoes for my fred flinstone feet
6. I hate cheap plastic outside chairs!! Can't anyone buy better ones??!
7. I hate having to wear plus sized clothing, which whoever makes it thinks all fat people are short!! They never cover my belly fully.
8. I don't want to sit in a booth, only because they suck and when I lose weight I know there's still someone who won't fit and will feel sad. I just don't want to be stared at. :(
9. I want to go one day without thinking about something weight, food, or body related.
10. I hate not being able to pick up something I drop while sitting, it seems to disappear?
11. I hate having to check weight limits for things, chairs, rides, rafts, etc.
12. Most of all, I HATE not loving me.

dan_ak
Tue, Jun-29-04, 02:05
Going back on Atkins yesterday... My list:

This past weekend I was helping some friends move. Even though I was overweight I was always a pretty strong guy, but have been inactive for a while. After moving the first piece of furniture up the stairs backwards, the sweat was dripping off of me (sorry for the visual) and I thought I was going to die! Every five minutes one of them asking me, Are you ok? "<gasp> I'm <pant> fine!" :lol: Never again!

So, I hate
1. Not being able to help my friends with physical things.
2. Hearing another friend of mine (not in a bad way, just wasn't thinking) say "I'll get the heavy end" when moving something.
3. Never having a girlfriend at 22 and not having the confidence to talk to anybody.
4. Missing my childhood. I was inside...where it was safe.
5. Never knowing what it was like to be thin.
6. The feeling that the road to being fit is so long that I might not make it.

gandktahoe
Tue, Jun-29-04, 07:28
Thanks, Sneaky for mentioning the one about large size clothes being too short. That has been one of my complaints for quite some time. I am 5'8" which is not exactly Amazon but I have always had trouble finding pants long enough to not be "floods". Who decided that fat people are also short? Men have the Big and Tall shops...women have Lane Bryant and even then there are not enough choices for anyone over about 5'5".
OK, rant mode off!!! Gotta go start the day. Greetings to all! :wave: :wave:

Contessa_S
Tue, Jun-29-04, 09:17
I hate not being able to run around with my kids. I hate when I go into a resturant and wonder if Im going to be able to sit in their chairs and be comfortable. I hate going to an amusement park and not being able to go on rides with my kids cause I dont fit. I hate thinking that everyone is looking at me and judging my fat not the wonderful person I am inside. The list can go on and on, but that's enough for one day!

geauxleaux
Tue, Jun-29-04, 09:27
Oooh, clothing rant: I'm 5'6", so the length isn't a problem, but the bust line is. Apparently all overweight women are also supposed to have HUGE boobs. I carry my weight in my stomach, butt, and thighs, but not my chest, so when I find a skirt to fit me, the matching jacket or blouse is WAY too big.

I also have a personal problem with Lane Bryant. I find the clothes to be poorly made and of cheap material, yet the prices are high. The biggest insult though is their advertising. Have you ever looked at a Lane Bryant catalog? I haven't in several years because I've boycotted them, so they may have changed, but about 10 years ago, all of their print ads consisted of nothing but size-2 models showing off size-2 versions of their clothing. What, I'm fat, so I must be stoooopid as well? Like I really think that if I buy that dress, I'm going to look like a size-2? It was SO INSULTING!!

I want to see a size 22 model wearing a size 22 dress so I can get an idea of how it looks/falls/drapes. I do NOT want to see a size-2 model wearing some cut down, streamlined tailored version. C'mon, a size-2 could wear a hefty bag and look good! I always felt like Lane Bryant was more than happy to take my money with one hand (for clothes that would fall apart before I got them home) and stab me in the back with the other with insults.

If I want ugly clothes, I'm going to Wal-Mart. The clothes are cheaper and they last longer. Okay, rant over, pant, pant (catching breath....)

Monstarr
Wed, Aug-04-04, 19:17
Not really sure what to post today. Its my 21 birthday today, but all i want is be normal, to be human again. Thats all i want.

Monstarr
Wed, Aug-04-04, 19:18
I wonder, not be rude at al just curious. Are many of the ppl(mesp women) here gain weight after marriage?

Monstarr
Wed, Aug-04-04, 19:50
It appears aroun 85% of the members here are married ppl over 28

toofattoo
Thu, Aug-05-04, 12:39
Oh where do I begin. I have 35 list of reason why I want to be thin printed and hung where I can read them while I am walking on my treadmill.
#1 Lower my blood sugar
#2 Prevent heart problems
#3 Breath easier
#4 Bend over easier
#5 Fit in smaller clothing. I was in 3x shirts and I hate going into the "womens" section.
#6 Be able to fit into any chair and yes fit in booths. My husband and I are both big and we have to ask for a table when we go out to eat.
#7 Have a picture taken that I actually like.

toofattoo
Thu, Aug-05-04, 12:41
Oh where do I begin. I have 35 list of reason why I want to be thin printed and hung where I can read them while I am walking on my treadmill.
#1 Lower my blood sugar
#2 Prevent heart problems
#3 Breathe easier
#4 Bend over easier
#5 Fit in smaller clothing. I was in 3x shirts and I hate going into the "womens" section.
#6 Be able to fit into any chair and yes fit in booths. My husband and I are both big and we have to ask for a table when we go out to eat.
#7 Have a picture taken that I actually like.
There are many more but these are just a few. I have already accomplished a few of these, so I feel better about myself already. Hugs to everyone. Peg