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KvonM
Tue, Jun-10-08, 09:22
http://origin.sltrib.com/business/ci_9530300

Salmonella outbreak has eateries, markets in Utah pulling tomatoes
By Dawn House
The Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated: 06/09/2008 02:24:11 PM MDT

Updated: 1:59 PM- Some restaurants, fast-food chains and supermarkets in Utah and other states are pulling three types of tomatoes from store shelves and menus as the U.S. government continues to hunt for the source of a salmonella outbreak.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said consumers should avoid raw red plum, red Roma and round red tomatoes, which have been tied to 145 infections since mid-April. One related illness has been reported in Utah, but the victim is thought have eaten tomatoes elsewhere, perhaps in New Mexico.
Consumers can continue to eat the smaller, cherry or grape tomatoes, or tomatoes sold with the vine still attached, as well as tomatoes grown at home.
On Sunday, Albertsons pulled tomatoes on the FDA list from shelves in Utah and several other states in the Intermountain West, as well as California, officials said. Smith's also has done so.
"This is a precaution," said Albertsons' spokeswoman Donna Eggers. "We're waiting for further information from the FDA."
In addition, McDonald's, Taco Bell and Chipotle Mexican Grill have stopped offering tomatoes.
Although the FDA has said tomatoes grown in many areas such as California are safe, it has not been able to pinpoint the source of the outbreak. The FDA said consumers should contact their local grocer if they are unsure where tomatoes they purchased were grown.
Infections also have been reported in Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Oklahoma, Oregon, New Mexico, Texas, Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin, the FDA said in a statement.

Consumer advisory:

Tomatoes varieties that include cherry, grape and those sold with the vine attached or grown at home are safe to eat. Canned whole or diced tomatoes can be used as an alternative. Do not eat raw red plumb, red Roma or round red tomatoes unless you know they were grown in areas that have been ruled to be safe Arkansas, California, Georgia, Hawaii, N. Carolina, S. Carolina, Tennessee and Texas.

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/food-poisoning/news/20080609/salmonella-tomato-warning-expanded
Salmonella Tomato Warning Expanded
Salmonella Outbreak in Certain Raw, Red Tomatoes Sickens At Least 145 People in 16 States
By Miranda Hitti
WebMD Health NewsReviewed by Louise Chang, MDJune 9, 2008 -- The FDA has broadened its list of tomatoes to avoid because of a salmonella outbreak that has sickened at least 145 people in 16 states since the middle of April.

The FDA and CDC first warned last week of dozens of people in nine states who had gotten sick after eating certain types of raw, red tomatoes.

Salmonella bacteria can cause diarrhea (which may be bloody), fever, nausea, vomiting, and abdominal pain. Serious and potentially fatal cases are more likely in young children, frail or elderly people, and people with weak immune systems.

No deaths have been reported in the salmonella tomato outbreak. However, 23 people have been hospitalized with Salmonella Saintpaul, the uncommon type of salmonella at the root of the outbreak.

Salmonella Saintpaul cases have been reported in the following states: Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, and Wisconsin.

FDA's Tomato Recommendations
Because of the salmonella outbreak, the FDA advises consumers not to eat raw red Roma, raw red plum, and raw red round tomatoes, or products containing those types of tomatoes, unless the tomatoes are from the following places, which have not been linked to the outbreak:

Arkansas
California
Georgia
Hawaii
North Carolina
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Belgium
Canada
Dominican Republic
Guatemala
Israel
Netherlands
Puerto Rico
Not sure where your tomatoes came from? The FDA suggests calling the store where you bought them for that information. The tomato warnings also apply to restaurants.

When outbreaks aren't underway, the FDA recommends washing whole, fresh produce before eating it. But during an outbreak, the stakes are too high. Washing tomatoes probably won't get rid of the contamination, so the FDA urges consumers to simply avoid eating the suspect tomatoes.

Not all tomatoes are on the FDA's warning list. Cherry tomatoes, grape tomatoes, tomatoes sold with the vine still attached, and home-grown tomatoes haven't been linked to the outbreak, according to the FDA.

KarenJ
Tue, Jun-10-08, 11:37
Be afraid of the spinach, be afraid of the tomatoes... We will need a lengthy and expensive investigation to get to the bottom of this. Has Michael Pollan weighed in on this yet? He was the first to suggest that the upstream CAFO operation had something to do with the E-Coli spinach, months before the officials finally came to the same conclusion after a lengthy and expensive investigation.

I was listening to the radio this morning and was AMAZED at the ignorance of the hosts. "Even cooked tomatoes can have this", "What's the difference between cherry tomatoes and grape tomatoes?", "What's the definition of 'round' anyway?", and the kicker: "Can we still eat Ketchup?" :lol:

Tomatoes varieties that include cherry, grape and those sold with the vine attached or grown at home are safe to eat

How do they know my home grown tomatoes are safe? Maybe I put them on the same cutting board as the chicken, the eggs, and the incredibly deadly unpasteurized milk. :lol:

Coincides perfectly with an email I just got. Slightly off topic, but I hope you enjoy it:
London Times

Obituary of the late Mr. Common Sense

'Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape. He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as: Knowing when to come in out of the rain; why the early bird gets the worm; Life isn't always fair; and maybe it was my fault.

Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more than you can earn) and reliable strategies (adults, not children, are in charge).

His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a 6-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.

Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly children.

It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer sun lotion or an Elastoplasts to a student; but could not inform parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.

Common Sense lost the will to live as the Ten Commandments became contraband; churches became businesses; and criminals received better treatment than their victims. Common Sense took a beating when you couldn't defend yourself from a burglar in your own home and the burglar could sue you for assault.

Common Sense finally gave up the will to live, after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot. She spilled a little in her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement.

Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust; his wife, Discretion; along with his daughter and son, Responsibility and Reason. He is survived by his 4 stepbrothers; I Know My Rights, I Want It Now, Someone Else Is To Blame, and I'm A Victim.

KvonM
Tue, Jun-10-08, 12:03
heh... beautiful. i just copied and pasted that into my own email and forwarded it. it also reminds me of a shirt my husband and i used to sell... "common sense is an oxymoron".

i agree about the confusion on which tomatoes are safe and which aren't. the only thing i could think of was that the ones sold on the vine don't go through the same processing as the un-vined ones (is that a word?), and that's where the contamination started.

ReginaW
Tue, Jun-10-08, 17:06
Wouldn't properly washing the tomatoes work?

Angeline
Wed, Jun-11-08, 14:10
Well I read an article this morning that Canadian producers couldn't respond to the sudden huge demand for tomatoes.

Apparently Canadian tomatoes are safe :)

Dodger
Wed, Jun-11-08, 16:30
Let them eat cake.

LessLiz
Wed, Jun-11-08, 17:26
Wouldn't properly washing the tomatoes work?Yes, especially if you use the bactericide that you find all over Mexico.

eryalen
Thu, Jun-12-08, 11:30
How do they know my home grown tomatoes are safe? Maybe I put them on the same cutting board as the chicken, the eggs, and the incredibly deadly unpasteurized milk. :lol:

Your milk must be very thick to have to cut it!

Citruskiss
Thu, Jun-12-08, 11:34
I'm not sure if the grape/cherry tomatoes or the tomatoes on the vine are really 'ok'. I keep thinking back to that pet food recall - where the 'list' of contaminated brands just kept on expanding.

This is really unfortunate, because tomatoes are one of my favourite foods. :mad:

ReginaW
Thu, Jun-12-08, 11:37
I'm not sure if the grape/cherry tomatoes or the tomatoes on the vine are really 'ok'. I keep thinking back to that pet food recall - where the 'list' of contaminated brands just kept on expanding.

This is really unfortunate, because tomatoes are one of my favourite foods. :mad:

Have you tried to grow your own? Last summer was our first summer we did and we grew them in large pots on our deck and planted some in the ground since we weren't sure of the soil quality --- both sets --- those in pots and those in the ground -- did really well and we had all sorts of tomato varieties coming outta our ears until late October!

Citruskiss
Thu, Jun-12-08, 11:40
Have you tried to grow your own? Last summer was our first summer we did and we grew them in large pots on our deck and planted some in the ground since we weren't sure of the soil quality --- both sets --- those in pots and those in the ground -- did really well and we had all sorts of tomato varieties coming outta our ears until late October!

No, I've never tried to grow my own tomatoes. In fact, last summer was the first time I planted anything - some bedding plants. :lol:

That said though - I like tomatoes so much that I might be willing to try this.

Is it too late to plant tomatoes in pots? (clueless, non-gardener type here).

ReginaW
Thu, Jun-12-08, 12:42
No, I've never tried to grow my own tomatoes. In fact, last summer was the first time I planted anything - some bedding plants. :lol:

That said though - I like tomatoes so much that I might be willing to try this.

Is it too late to plant tomatoes in pots? (clueless, non-gardener type here).

Nope.....! Although you probably will do better with them if you buy plants that are already sprouted and growing - check your local area stores that carry plants - you should be able to find a bunch of options (from heirloom varieties, to organics, to hybrids if you prefer) that are ready to re-pot into a large pot. Once re-potted you should water well and place them in the sunniest area you have available and water daily (unless it rains on them), sometimes twice a day watering if it's really hot out. They'll do well if you plant in a good soil (I use an organic soil that I get at the local nursery that's a mix that includes compost and some manure from local farms that are grass-fed animals) and keep them watered!

ETA: The pot height should be at least 2' tall to support the large root system...the taller and wider the better. You'll also want to get a support for the plants as they grow - sticks, pole or trellis type tall thing to tie the plants to (gently) so they grow up without falling over!

Citruskiss
Thu, Jun-12-08, 12:53
Nope.....! Although you probably will do better with them if you buy plants that are already sprouted and growing - check your local area stores that carry plants - you should be able to find a bunch of options (from heirloom varieties, to organics, to hybrids if you prefer) that are ready to re-pot into a large pot. Once re-potted you should water well and place them in the sunniest area you have available and water daily (unless it rains on them), sometimes twice a day watering if it's really hot out. They'll do well if you plant in a good soil (I use an organic soil that I get at the local nursery that's a mix that includes compost and some manure from local farms that are grass-fed animals) and keep them watered!

ETA: The pot height should be at least 2' tall to support the large root system...the taller and wider the better. You'll also want to get a support for the plants as they grow - sticks, pole or trellis type tall thing to tie the plants to (gently) so they grow up without falling over!

Wow! Thank you.

I am so doing this. I don't know if they'll live, but I'll try it. :)

ReginaW
Thu, Jun-12-08, 12:54
Wow! Thank you.

I am so doing this. I don't know if they'll live, but I'll try it. :)

Water, water, water.....and if you're not crazy-obnoxious about 'organic', miracle grow once a week and they'll definitely survive!

KarenJ
Thu, Jun-12-08, 13:21
The weather here has been so wacky that I haven't gotten my tomatoes planted yet. But a good fertilizer you might want to try is Osmocote. There are a couple other brands of 'cote' fertilizers too. They are slow release, so you only have to mix it up in the soil when you're planting, then the fertilizer feeds the plant all season long.
I use it for everything, even Water Lilies. :)

Your milk must be very thick to have to cut it!

Ya got me. :lol:

Dodger
Thu, Jun-12-08, 16:55
I've had trouble with growing the large tomatoes. I have had great success with the small plum/cherry/grape types. My large tomatoes always turned black on the bottom.

rightnow
Thu, Jun-12-08, 17:31
Well I have a dozen roma planted, and a couple dozen various pepper plants, and a few herbs. However, right now, since it has rained nearly daily since March, when I looked into my backyard, I see weeds six feet tall in my raised (36"H) bed that had the 6" seedlings in it. I am not really sure whether the water has killed them, whether the weeds have shaded them to death, etc. The problem is that right now it's still really muddy out there. Tomorrow I get off work early and if it holds with not pouring for three days in a row, tomorrow I should be able to spend the whole afternoon out there dodging wasps, avoiding spiders and swatting at mosquitos. How I love gardening. ;-) While I'm at it, I hope to pull enough monster-weeds that my poor plants get some actual sun! I would really like to have some bell and hot peppers and roma come harvest!