More protein...

[anyway...]

Hm ok this is probably a little odd...

I've been making ice cream with coconut milk and frozen berries and I'm trying to think of a way to add some extra protein to the ice cream in a paleo way.

My first thought was nuts, but I'm in a veggie phase at the moment so adding nuts would put me over the amount of carbs I do well on... but a good addition when I'm out of my veggie phase.

And most protein powder, while I'm guessing not paleo, is also made from milk protein yes? So I couldn't have that.

Any thoughts on what might be a tasty addition to ice cream thats high protein and low(er) in carbs?

[Nancy LC]

You can buy powdered egg whites or you could look into making a custard type of ice cream adding eggs and cooking a bit. Just look for vanilla ice cream recipes (custard style). I'd imagine you'll want some sort of sweetener though.

[LukeA]

I dont know how paleo they are, but there are protien powders that are made from hemp or egg as well that might be suitable?

Or maybe simply make a frozen custard adding in real eggs...


oops nancy got to it first! :)

[anyway...]

Thanks for this!

I tried the powdered egg whites... it added about 6g protein to the ice cream. Did make it seem a little less sweet, but not enough that I would have to add a sweetener to it.

Worked out great :thup:

[JKK]

Hmm, powdered eggs (and thus egg whites, even though most of the cholesterol should be in the yolk) contain oxidized cholesterol, right? Maybe if you'd find some freeze-dried variety it could be good.

What about whisping some eggs (yolks and whites separately) and putting them there?

[Nancy LC]

Why would there be oxidized cholesterol in powdered egg whites? What process is oxidizing it? I think the cholesterol is pretty much limited to the yolk, thus all those egg-white products on the market for the folks who worry about it. Even if there were oxidized cholesterol, I wouldn't worry that eating it is the same as forming it within your own body.

[JKK]

I don't know how it is processed, I just have seen some people many times commenting how it (egg powder) has oxidized cholesterol (like (common) milk powder has), and how oxidized cholesterol has been showed to be bad for you by studies, and that these two items (egg and milk powder, but yeah, not necessarily egg white powder) are the main sources of oxidized cholesterol. Those people are dedicated low-carb people who are not afraid of cholesterol.

I don't have enough knowledge or understanding to read any studies so I can't explain more accurately why it would be bad for you, and I don't remember what those afore mentioned people said about it.

Sorry if the text above doesn't make sense, I drank a lot of booze yesterday and didn't sleep well (and english is not my first language).

[Nancy LC]

Wouldn't any form of cooking produce oxidized cholesterol? Are you a raw foodie person?


Abstract


The aim of this study was to compare the effects of dietary oxidized cholesterol and pure cholesterol on plasma and very low density lipoprotein (VLDL) lipids and on some parameters of VLDL assembly and secretion in rats fed two different dietary fats. Four groups of male growing Sprague-Dawley rats were fed diets containing pure or oxidized cholesterol (5 g/kg diet) with either coconut oil or salmon oil as dietary fat (100 g/kg diet) for 35 days. Rats fed oxidized cholesterol supplemented diets had significantly lower concentrations of triglycerides and cholesterol in plasma and VLDL than rats fed pure cholesterol supplemented diets irrespective of the type of fat. In addition, rats fed oxidized cholesterol supplemented diets had significantly lower relative concentrations of microsomal triglyceride transfer protein messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) than rats fed pure cholesterol supplemented diets. In contrast, hepatic lipid concentrations and the relative concentration of apolipoprotein B mRNA were not influenced by the dietary factors investigated. Parameters of hepatic lipogenesis (relative mRNA concentration of sterol regulatory element binding protein-1c and activity of glucose-6-phosphat dehydrogenase) were significantly reduced by feeding fish oil compared to coconut oil, but were not affected by the type of cholesterol. In conclusion, the data of this study suggest, that dietary oxidized cholesterol affects VLDL assembly and/or secretion by reducing the synthesis of MTP but not by impairing hepatic lipogenesis or synthesis of apolipoprotein B.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong but it almost sounds beneficial to eat oxidized cholesterol.
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0955286303001748

[ruthla]

The most Paleo way would be to add raw eggs to the ice cream. Slightly less Paleo but still "whole foodie" would be to beat the raw eggs then cook them in hot water while stirring rapidly, so they'd be "custardy" and fully cooked, then let cool before mixing with ice cream ingredients. This would be a good choice if you're uncomfortable with raw eggs in your ice cream. Using powdered (or liquid refridgerated) pasturized egg whites is far less work but lower on the "whole natural foods" list.

[JKK]

I don't know, maybe some high temperature cooking methods, I'd think. I'm not raw foodist at the moment, but I've been consuming my yolks mostly raw recently (again). But again I need to mention that I just heard this from some people I trust, they specifically claimed that it wasn't produced by ordinary cooking methods (though there were different opinions too), atleast not in great quantities, and they aren't raw foodists, they even use their frying pans...

Yes, but I apologize, studies are not really useful for me, because of aforementioned reasons.

It's fine for me if oxidized cholesterol is in fact good for you.

[Nancy LC]

All cooking leads to oxidation, and yes cooking eggs does also. I looked it up on the InterWebz. I think my body can probably handle the oxidized cholesterol properly.