H.georgicus & H.floresiensis : still climbing parttime?

[Marc Verha]

http://remotecentral.blogspot.com/2007_09_01_archive.html

[Rich Travs]

Marc Verhaegen wrote:
>
> Op 21-04-2008 06:57, in artikel
> 480C1ECD.AFF1FA9E@hotmMOVEail.com, Rich Travsky
> <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> schreef:
>
> >> http://remotecentral.blogspot.com/2007_09_01_archive.html
>
> > http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v449/n7160/abs/natur-
> > e06134.html Postcranial evidence from early Homo from
> > Dmanisi, Georgia ... This material shows that the
> > postcranial anatomy of the Dmanisi hominins has a
> > surprising mosaic of primitive and derived features. The
> > primitive features include a small body size, a low
> > encephalization quotient and absence of humeral torsion;
>
> + apelike wrist features suggest still arm-hanging parttime.

Not much opportunity for tree hanging in Dmanisi, Marc.

> > the derived features include modern-human-like body
> > proportions and lower limb morphology indicative of the
> > capability for long-distance travel.
>
> :-D
>
> The usual logical mistake that we see the Savanna Fantasts
> make every day

The usual mistake made by aquatic fantasts - they went to
Dmanisi on *foot*.

They did not swim there.

They did not swing through the trees to get there.

> here: post hoc ergo propter hoc. They reason:
> "primate=quadruped=tree, human=biped=ground, hence
> everything that looks like humun = ground", without asking
> why humans are so different from other primates.
>
> H.erectus was no long-distance walker, so H.georgicus even
> less so:

How did they get to Dmanisi?

Take a taxi?

[Rich Travs]

Marc Verhaegen wrote:
>
> >>>> http://remotecentral.blogspot.com/2007_09_01_archive.h-
> >>>> tml
>
> >>> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v449/n7160/abs/nat-
> >>> ure06134.html Postcranial evidence from early Homo from
> >>> Dmanisi, Georgia ... This material shows that the
> >>> postcranial anatomy of the Dmanisi hominins has a
> >>> surprising mosaic of primitive and derived features. The
> >>> primitive features include a small body size, a low
> >>> encephalization quotient and absence of humeral torsion;
>
> >> + apelike wrist features suggest still arm-hanging
> >> parttime.
>
> > Not much opportunity for tree hanging in Dmanisi, Marc.
>
> If so, so what?

Then you're wrong again.

> Not my fault. I have no idea.

Then don't make up claims.

> Read the literature.

You should do that since you need it more. Then you wouldn't
have to make claims that you have "no idea" about.