PDA

View Full Version : The climate change diet


Welcome to the Active Low-Carber Forums

Support for Atkins diet, Protein Power, Neanderthin (Paleo Diet), CAD/CALP, Dr. Bernstein Diabetes Solution and any other healthy low-carb diet or plan, all are welcome in our lowcarb community. Forget starvation and fad diets -- join the healthy eating crowd! You may register by clicking here, it's free!



bsheets
Thu, Apr-10-08, 06:58
The climate change diet


By Peter Lavelle
ABC News Australia
10 April 2008


Spiralling food prices, fuelled in part by climate change, may pressure us into changing our diet -- perhaps for the better.

When we in the West think about the costs of climate change, we think of rising electricity and fuel prices. But these aren't the main concerns for people living in developing countries.

Egypt, Vietnam, Cambodia, the Philippines, Yemen, Mexico… in fact over 30 developing countries face critical shortages of food due to sharply rising costs for staples like rice, wheat, soybeans and corn.

The cost of rice, for example – the staple food for half the world – has doubled over the past year, and increased five-fold over the past five years.

What's driving price increases is the sharp rise in the price of oil (a major input in the production and transport of food), rising demand from China, land scarcity, especially as more land is being turned over to biofuels, and increasingly erratic weather events – floods, storms and droughts – caused by climate change, which are pushing down crop yields.

And prices are going to keep rising – rice stocks are at their lowest since the 1980s and the major rice-producing countries Cambodia, India, Pakistan, and Vietnam have restricted their exports of rice to other counties so as to feed their own populations. Commodities futures on the world's financial markets are predicting prices will continue to rise.

Many developing countries face famine and civil unrest, warns the World Bank. In just the past few weeks there have been food riots and demonstrations in Indonesia, Egypt, Bolivia and in many small, poor African countries.

In Australia, food prices are rising too – at about 5 to 10 per cent a year – but because food accounts for a much smaller proportion of our household expenditure, Australian families are in a better position to absorb the price rises. But low-income families are already having to cut back on more expensive items like meat and fish.

Eating in the age of climate change
It's not just our energy consumption patterns that will have to change. We'll need to change our food consumption to take into account the effects of climate change, say the authors of an online report called Health Professionals Taking Action on Climate Change, just published by the British Medical Association.

The study, aimed at health professionals, looks at the health effects of global warming – increased deaths from heat waves, more frequent infectious diseases, mental health problems, and malnutrition. It also has advice for health workers as to how they can make their practices and organisations more energy efficient.

Buried within the report are also some recommendations as to how we might adapt our diet to cope with the rising cost of food. It recommends we:

* Buy fresh, locally-produced food, which has less distance to travel and therefore uses less fuel.
* Eat fewer processed and refrigerated foods, which take more energy to manufacture, transport and store.
* Waste less food – about one-third of the food we prepare is thrown away uneaten. Don't over-order in restaurants, and eat smaller portions.
* Drink tap water, not bottled water, which uses large amounts of energy to produce.
* Reduce the amount of meat and animal and diary products we eat. Meat is much more energy intensive and requires proportionally more land to graze animals than crops. Instead, eat foods lower down the food chain – grains, fruits and vegetables that are cheaper to grow, use less energy and less land space.
* Buy foods in season – seasonal products generally use less energy to produce.

Better for you
Now while lovers of meat, cheese, eggs and takeaway food might recoil in horror at these suggestions, in fact they make sense. Not only will they help lower your carbon footprint, they are also a good way to manage the household budget. Low-energy foods like grains, fruits and vegetables are likely to rise in price more slowly than energy-intensive foods like meat and dairy products.

But there's another big benefit: this new diet will actually be better for us.

For tens – indeed hundreds – of thousands of years we've been eating locally-gathered or locally-cultivated grains, fruits and vegetables, supplemented by occasional fish or game.

Some societies still eat this way. If you're living on a Greek island you might eat bread, grains, olive oil, fish, a little red wine and lots of fruit and vegetables. Sound familiar? It's the Mediterranean diet.

If you're living on an island off the coast of Japan it might be a low-calorie diet with small portions, little or no meat and plenty of fish, and green and yellow vegetables. We know it as the Okinawa diet.

Both these diets are associated with longevity and good health.

So from the point of view of our health, it may not be a bad thing to go back to a diet high in fibre (cereals, locally grown fruits and vegetables), low in saturated fat (minimal meat and diary products), and no processed foods; and spend the savings on a bottle of red wine.

Source: http://www.abc.net.au/health/thepulse/stories/2008/04/10/2213128.htm

Wifezilla
Thu, Apr-10-08, 07:08
You didn't tell me I was going to need boots to wade through this story. Now I have BS all over me! LOL

anita45
Thu, Apr-10-08, 08:34
The climate change diet

If you're living on an island off the coast of Japan it might be a low-calorie diet with small portions, little or no meat and plenty of fish, and green and yellow vegetables. We know it as the Okinawa diet.

Both these diets are associated with longevity and good health.

So from the point of view of our health, it may not be a bad thing to go back to a diet high in fibre (cereals, locally grown fruits and vegetables), low in saturated fat (minimal meat and diary products), and no processed foods; and spend the savings on a bottle of red wine.

Source: http://www.abc.net.au/health/thepulse/stories/2008/04/10/2213128.htm


I thought that in addition to the rice and veggies, the Okinawans actually eat a fair bit of meat - mainly pork + lard?

ruthla
Thu, Apr-10-08, 08:40
Well, I agree with the advice to eat as much locally-grown food as possible and minimize take-out food and disposable containers for everything.

But, what gets me is that I can eat local much easier by avoiding the grains that aren't grown anywhere on Long Island! (Ok, plenty of starchy corn and potatoes grow here.) Dairy products come from local or regional farms, as do fresh meats, eggs, and poultry.

KarenJ
Thu, Apr-10-08, 09:26
But, what gets me is that I can eat local much easier by avoiding the grains that aren't grown anywhere on Long Island! (Ok, plenty of starchy corn and potatoes grow here.) Dairy products come from local or regional farms, as do fresh meats, eggs, and poultry.

Hey I grew up on LI and know exactly what you mean. We used to drive out to the north fork and the farmers would let us scavenge the potato fields for the "small' red potatoes that slipped through the harvesting machines. That was long before they started marketing "baby" potatoes. Best potatoes and corn anywhere! We also used to get the best peaches at Davis Peach Farm. Wonder if they're still around.
We used to get our eggs from a farm, but they bulldozed it to build The State & County buildings (DMV) in Hauppauge.


You didn't tell me I was going to need boots to wade through this story. Now I have BS all over me! LOL

That was hilarious. :lol:

KvonM
Thu, Apr-10-08, 09:46
Drink tap water, not bottled water, which uses large amounts of energy to produce.
dude, do you have any idea what's IN city tap water?

my ex grew up just south of boston. there, you do not drink the water. EVER. if we had heavy rains, the next day the water coming out of the tap REEKED of chlorine. we bought water.

now the funny thing is that the house i grew up in had its own artesian well. when the guy who built it dug the well, they hit the first water table and he said "no, keep going." they hit the second one and he said "no, keep going." when they hit the 3rd one, it produces the cleanest, purest water i've ever had. when i took him back to my parents' house, i got a drink of water from the kitchen faucet. he looked at me like i was insane.

moggsy
Thu, Apr-10-08, 10:02
*small voice* I drink city water.

I'd love a solution, but I don't want a giant carbon footprint for such a high volume consumable.

1000times
Thu, Apr-10-08, 10:43
*small voice* I drink city water.

I'd love a solution, but I don't want a giant carbon footprint for such a high volume consumable.

Disposing of a Brita or Pur water filter every few weeks or months is probably better for the environment than the energy used to make bottles and move the filled bottles around.

moggsy
Thu, Apr-10-08, 11:32
I filter my water (or used to before I had to share a kitchen and fridge), but I wasn't sure it removed everything. I know from raising fish it's not just chlorine that is added to the water to purify it.

Mandra
Thu, Apr-10-08, 13:04
Reduce the amount of meat and animal and diary products we eat. 'Cause all that paper uses up a lot of trees.....

Baerdric
Thu, Apr-10-08, 13:48
'Cause all that paper uses up a lot of trees.....That's funny! Even more so because I just read something that claims that if anything, one of the main human causes of any Global Warming could be the RE-Forestation of the upper tier of North American and Eurasia, occasioned by the demise of the family farm. The trees now growing on all those Canadian fields reduce the reflectivity of snow in the winter, holding in the solar heat.

So using more diaries could actually reduce Global warming.

Of course, since there is still 5 ft of snow in my yard, I am in favor of any Global Warming we can scare up. The last decade has been markedly colder, and it's starting to wear on me. We are expecting more snow this weekend!

M Levac
Thu, Apr-10-08, 15:20
Meat can be raised on non-arable land. Plants can't. Except perhaps grass. Which is what grazing animals eat.

The carbon footprint is the most absurd ever. Plants eat carbon. We produce carbon. I'd say we should make the biggest damn carbon footprint we can.

KvonM
Thu, Apr-10-08, 17:00
The carbon footprint is the most absurd ever. Plants eat carbon. We produce carbon. I'd say we should make the biggest damn carbon footprint we can.
actually, the problem is that thanks to the industrial revolution, we're not only reducing the amount of plant coverage around the world, but we're also increasing the amount of carbon we produce and overloading the natural ecosystem to the point where it can't effectively process it all. that's what leads to buildups in the atmosphere, heat being trapped, polar ice shelves melting, ocean temperatures rising, increased destructive weather patterns, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!

NoWhammies
Thu, Apr-10-08, 17:11
There is no way I am drinking tap water. They put poison in it (fluoride). If they stop putting toxic crap in it, I might consider it.

gridcan28
Thu, Apr-10-08, 17:48
We also used to get the best peaches at Davis Peach Farm. Wonder if they're still around.


The Davis Farm is still around! I attend Stony Brook and figured out that there are a whole bunch of farms and farm stands about 20-25 miles from the campus. The peaches were the best I have ever tasted. I never knew what a real tree ripened peach was until I tasted the ones from the Davis Farm. I think that's part of the reason I didn't lose any weight during the summer!

1000times
Thu, Apr-10-08, 20:40
Meat can be raised on non-arable land. Plants can't. Except perhaps grass. Which is what grazing animals eat.

Non-arable land can support only a tiny population of grazing animals, which can only support a tiny population of humans, who are typically nomads, because the animals have to keep moving or they'll overgraze the land. You can't raise cattle or even sheep on most "non-arable" land that isn't already being used for raising cattle or sheep -- that's WHY such land isn't already being used to raise these desirable animals.

fujiwara
Thu, Apr-10-08, 22:31
Get a reverse osmosis filter for your kitchen faucet if you don't want to drink municipal water and don't want to buy bottled water.

moggsy
Fri, Apr-11-08, 02:55
Non-arable land can support only a tiny population of grazing animals, which can only support a tiny population of humans, who are typically nomads, because the animals have to keep moving or they'll overgraze the land. You can't raise cattle or even sheep on most "non-arable" land that isn't already being used for raising cattle or sheep -- that's WHY such land isn't already being used to raise these desirable animals.

http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtvegetarianism.html#1

You also can't grow cultivated crops on non-arable land. I don't think that the way we do agriculture in general isn't that environmentally sound, but that doesn't mean that consuming fewer animals would automatically lead to a greener Earth, fewer famines, or an easier time for the developing world.

I feel strongly about environmental issues, but I definitely don't think that eating Quorn will help that much if at all.

waywardsis
Fri, Apr-11-08, 05:30
I feel strongly about environmental issues, but I definitely don't think that eating Quorn will help that much if at all.

Might help reduce the population ;) As would any strictly agrarian diet.

Agriculture allowed us to drastically increase our overall population, and it's reached levels that are unsustainable. I don't think factory agriculture is envorinmentally sound, but I also don't think that overpopulation is either.

KarenJ
Fri, Apr-11-08, 11:26
The Davis Farm is still around! I attend Stony Brook and figured out that there are a whole bunch of farms and farm stands about 20-25 miles from the campus. The peaches were the best I have ever tasted. I never knew what a real tree ripened peach was until I tasted the ones from the Davis Farm. I think that's part of the reason I didn't lose any weight during the summer!

I graduated from SUNY SB in '91. :) Loved it there. But I probably gained about 30 pounds from the Bagels... (off topic, sorry!)

I do believe that our current system is unsustainable. The question is, when is it going to pop? Or, is it already popping? India has been hit pretty hard by Diabetes... a decrease in population being the end-point of that.
Nature always wins, it will win against humans.