Attacking Candida, which method?

[Kane31]

Hi all, I was wondering if there's anyway to get rid of Candida without the use of Meds? I've had it for 3 weeks (pains in stomach and bowel). I've started taking oragano oil, coconut oil every day, and i've cut out all sugar and fruits.. Is this going to be enough? Can I take some more supplements? Do I have to go onto Meds? If so what Meds?

After 2 weeks i'm starting to feel better, but still get burning pain sometimes after eating.

Thanks for any help. :wave:

[jaiden]

well you are going to have to stick to a candida diet...it works very good even without candida cleansers...but candida cleansers(natural, not meds) dont seem to help much without the diet. plus meds like Diflucan and others stop being effective after awhile czu candida is very adaptive.

[KiaKaha]

I am still working on mine but I have tried lo-carbing, then the exclusion diet (i admit I held on to one or 2 small things), it helped, coconut oil - no further improvement and now I am on to some homeopath prescribed homeobaotanicals which include heaps of herbal stuff including marshmallow. Tastes like ---- but within 5 days I have noticed a significant improvement.

RE: Diflucan - ditto - I am now resistant - clears things out for 2 days and then they are back - also large courses of them damage your liver.

[Kane31]

Well thanks for your help, I'm still on the diet and am taking oragano oil, coconut oil , and garlic oil.. I'm seeing some vast improvement already, i've decided not to take the meds.. How long should I wait till I can start adding sugar back into my diet? Iv'e been on it for around 3 weeks now and most of my symtoms have gone. I just feel like I need some fruit.

And is honey and fruit sugars better to eat (when well) that refined sugar eg. sodas.

[muffles]

I have just been reading Dr Atkin's vita -nutrients book. He suggests a sugar free diet plus eliminating fermented food is the first step, also necessary for maintenance .
Next the most important supplements
are beneficial bacteria 1-3 tspns (the acidofolus and other types),
undecenylic acid 2-4 capsules,
caprylic acid 2-4 capsules
ergotransferrin 2-4 caps
Oil of Oregano 2-4 drops
Olive leaf extract - start with 1 capsule, build up to 3-4 caps,
vit C 1-3 grams
pantethine 600-1,200 mg
garlic 75-1500 mg
biotin 7.5-15 mg
essential oils formula 3,600-7,200 mg
mixed fibre blend 8-16 grams

Moderately important;

molybdenum 500-1500mcg
goldenseal 1-3 capsules
cat's claw extract 2-4 capsules
FOS 1/4 - 1/2 tsp
Pau d'arco 1-3 droppers
vit B6 100-200mg
echinea 3-5 tsp
vit E 400-800 IU
pyroxidal-5-phosphate 95-150mg
arginine 1,500 -4,000 mg
propolis 1/2 dropper of tincture in water
chlorella 1/2- 1 tsp
copper sebacate 2-4 mg

I know that's a huge long list! Maybe you could pick some to research and add to your current supplements?

[slh79]

I've had very good results with a product I've used. I went to gnc and found a product called candida cleanse. I had thrush a few weeks ago after my dog bit me and I had to take antibiotics. I did the spit test at the no more candida website and had a huge overgrowth. I did it today, and it is almost completely gone.

[KiaKaha]

Go along to healingnaturallybybee.com - this is a very comprehensive site (be prepared to spend an hour reading) but it will tell you pretty much all you need to know on how to overcome candida.

As to your question on how long to do it - anecdotally, having chatted with others and read a bit - it seems that depending on the person, you need to do your antifungals and lo-carbing and perhaps exclusion for a minimum of 2 - 3 months.

Then follow it up with a good course of probiotics and if possible - keep topping up with probiotics on a regular basis - also get into prebiotics on an ongoing basis if possible. As well as maintaining a lower carb diet. If you lapse back into how you ate before you will probably end up back in trouble with Candida again.

Also it seems to take quite a few people about two years to get it completely sorted.

[amandawood]

Hi all, I was wondering if there's anyway to get rid of Candida without the use of Meds? I've had it for 3 weeks (pains in stomach and bowel). I've started taking oragano oil, coconut oil every day, and i've cut out all sugar and fruits.. Is this going to be enough? Can I take some more supplements? Do I have to go onto Meds? If so what Meds?

After 2 weeks i'm starting to feel better, but still get burning pain sometimes after eating.

Thanks for any help. :wave:

See the post "I'm healed" in new members. She's talking about recovering from a yeast infection after a year and mentions the "Eskimo diet". Or use the advanced search function to look through all the posts on the forum that have appeared on the subject.

I have done that when looking for information and it's a really good way to get advice from real people who are not selling anything!!! And you don't have to send out a million new threads either!!!

Good luck!

amanda

[Kane31]

Thanks all, you're all very helpful.. This is a great support site.

One more thing, does Candida get resistant to say Oragano oil like it does to Diflucan?

[KiaKaha]

I think it may do - as Bee's site (I think) recommends you cycle your anti-fungals. The homeopathic stuff I'm doing has different stuff in it to the oregano oil and garlic ones I am going to start after I finish (Figure I might as well blitz it before I start on my probiotics).

[muffles]

I was told to have 2 weeks on OoO and two weeks off.

[Kane31]

Cool that answers that one.. Just one more! I'm taking 125mcg of Flixotide for my asthma, it's a steroid, is that going to make an effect on whether I can get rid of candida or not, I thought it should be alright to take as it's such a small dose :yum:

[lizrdqueen]

whoops, didn't mean to do this

[lizrdqueen]

Go along to healingnaturallybybee.com - this is a very comprehensive site (be prepared to spend an hour reading) but it will tell you pretty much all you need to know on how to overcome candida.


This is the best site i've ever come across, in years of researching, thanx :)

[sherbama]

I'm brand new to this forum and just came across your post from April.

I think any of the asthma/respiratory meds, especially anything steroidal, will feed the candida. I recently had an appt with a lung doctor for extreme shortness of breath after a bout with the flu. He prescribed Spiriva and Advair; as the nurse was instructing me how to use it she said if you have mouth yeast, these meds will feed it. Bingo, a light bulb went off in my head. My doctor had prescribed an asthma inhaler a while back which I only used occasionally. When I had the flu I was using it 3 times a day for about a week. I was feeding that yeast like crazy. I came home and tossed what the lung doc gave me, including my inhaler which I've not used since. I had been at a complete standstill with the candida for quite a long time now and I'm convinced it was the inhaler. I was puffing on it just enough to feed the yeast which increased little by little with every puff. The lung doctor even gave me a prescription for diflucan for the mouth yeast that I was sure to develop. He looked in my mouth so fast, he missed the fact that I already have it. This was at the end of April, I've already lost about 7 lbs after months and months of my weight either standing still or gaining. I will never ever take another asthma med. and BTW, the breathing problem is going away all by itself.

[soule72]

amandawood I tried to find that post about the eskimo diet and could not any help would be appreciated.

[amandawood]

amandawood I tried to find that post about the eskimo diet and could not any help would be appreciated.

I'm really sorry, but I can't seem to locate it either... I looked here there and everywhere on this forum using the Google Advanced Search function, but no luck.

amanda

[Hutchinson]

Unless you have had a 25(OH)D test and know that your vitamin D3 level is above 50ng 125nmol/l it would be worth getting this checked out.

Although I can't remember any specific research linking low D3 status with candida there is plenty of evidence that a lower immune status and candida are linked and there is the possibility that improving your immune function (http://www.fasebj.org/cgi/content/full/19/9/1067) by achieving optimum vitamin D status will help.

As there are many very good reasons for having optimum vitamin d status (http://www.grassrootshealth.org/_download/disease_incidence_prev_25ng_p_ml_bline072608.pdf) and the cost is trivial (https://secure.bio-tech-pharm.com/detail.aspx?product_id=18&cat_id=2&subcat_id=0) it's worth doing simply to eliminate this possibility from the list.

[Hutchinson]

Apart from Vitamin D3 that I have already posted is a natural anti biotic agent so is GREEN TEA.

Combined treatment with catechin allows the use of lower doses of antimycotics and induces multiple antifungal effects. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14688042) that research shows it helps in conjunction with antimycotics so you may find combined with the vitamin D3 it helps.

I've been drinking Green Tea for some years now. It may take a little getting used to but it is worth it for the many potential beneficial effects it has on health (http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&q=green+tea&btnG=Search)

It also improves your natural photoprotection making you less likely to burn in sunshine.

[Samantha22]

Although i despised doing it...and missed atkins terribly...the lifeforce plan is wonderful for kicking candida to the curb.

I think theres even a website, just do a google search for lifeforce plan.
It focuses on getting rid of the candida....and has phases similar to most LC diets.

I do it about once every six months as long as i can stand it but i feel wonderful on it. I have a huge bottle of the candidacleanse supplement that they sell, expensive but it helps..i take it even when i'm not doing the plan.

Goodluck...i know how miserable candida is.

[Hutchinson]

Although i despised doing it...and missed atkins terribly...the lifeforce plan is wonderful for kicking candida to the curb.
I don't understand why you felt you had to stop atkins to follow the lifeforce plan (http://www.mccombsplan.com/new_faq_before.htm)
Apart from the brown rice there is nothing on the permitted list that interferes with Atkins and from the NO list there isn't that much that would normally be available to Atkins users.

I just don't see why you think Lifeplan is incompatible with Atkins.
It may be because I am not personally following Atkins but Dr Dahlqvists plan (http://blogg.passagen.se/dahlqvistannika/?anchor=my_lowcarb_dietary_programe_in) I am told this is more or less Atkins ongoing weight loss.

However I am very distrustful of plans such as this that are reluctant to set out openly the basic principles underlying their use.
The supplements look more like a scam than anything else to me but maybe I am just too cynical.

[Samantha22]

I don't understand why you felt you had to stop atkins to follow the lifeforce plan (http://www.mccombsplan.com/new_faq_before.htm)
Apart from the brown rice there is nothing on the permitted list that interferes with Atkins and from the NO list there isn't that much that would normally be available to Atkins users.

I just don't see why you think Lifeplan is incompatible with Atkins.
It may be because I am not personally following Atkins but Dr Dahlqvists plan (http://blogg.passagen.se/dahlqvistannika/?anchor=my_lowcarb_dietary_programe_in) I am told this is more or less Atkins ongoing weight loss.

However I am very distrustful of plans such as this that are reluctant to set out openly the basic principles underlying their use.
The supplements look more like a scam than anything else to me but maybe I am just too cynical.

The beginning of this plan allows no dairy, no vinegar, nothing pickled. It is quite different than atkins in that matter....and allows all fruits and vegetables including things like sweet potatoes that are a NO-NO when beginning atkins, and honestly a no-no for me because they cause cravings.

I'm quite skeptical of alot of the supplements and plans out there now too...
I had good results with that one product but i'd never ever spend what they want you to spend on some probiotics.

To each his own plan i suppose :)