conscientious ominvor seeks high fatters

[nina50005]

Hi!
I'm trying to high fat. Have "enrolled" onto another thread which follows the OD method which has been really motivating but which might not be right for me (it's BIG on the pork and butter).

So thought I'd try here too;

I eat soya products, fish, eggs and meat if it's offered (like when invited out to dinner)
I DON'T eat dairy (bye bye butter)

I'm trying to do high fat which looks like;
20% OR LESS carbs
70-80% fat and
30% protein

I'm trying to IF as well (four days a week of main/only meal in the evening - snack after gym in the morning only)

Anyone what to join me????

Nina

[AimeeJoi]

Hi Nina,

I think I may have been the one to start that high fat thread awhile ago in the general low-carb area. I really like eating a LOT of fat but I am like you where I struggle with eating a bunch of meat and animal fat. Not only do I have some guilt issues with the whole carnivore thing but I also don't really like meat and meat fat that much (we were pretty poor when I was growing up and peanut butter and cauliflower with cheese are my comfort foods.) High meat-based dishes have always seemed like too much meat for me when I just want a big bowl of cheesy vegetables or something.

I am also trying to give up dairy because I think it is probably healthier to not eat it. So far I am really happy with coconut milk because it is super high in fat and doesn't seem as unnatural as store-bought almond milk. Also I have been trying some of the raw food recipes using macadamia nuts to make whipped cream or pudding style desserts. These are pretty good and I think they are healthier than real whipped cream. Cheese is a BIG problem for me as I can't find a substitute that even comes close to bubbly browned gooey melted cheese.

I am glad to hear there are others out there who are struggling with the carnivorous diet but still want to do high-fat, low-carb.

How is it working out for you?

[capmikee]

Coconut milk is my friend! I have about a cup of it every night. I have coconut milk yogurt for variety. Coconut oil is great for cooking too. And EVOO, of course, for when you need something liquid at room temperature.

There are no cheese substitutes worth a dang, and for good reason. Cheese is an addictive substance, and without the addictive qualities of fermented dairy, there's really no point. Cheese withdrawal is a horrible feeling but it goes away in time. I don't expect you to believe me now, but one day you'll wake up to find you don't even want cheese.

I have a lot of fermented vegetables - there really not a cheese substitute but they fill some of the same needs, and boy are they tasty!

Nina, you said you still eat eggs. Egg yolks are a good source of fat. I don't even eat the whites anymore. I usually put an egg yolk in my coconut milk drink, and if I have seltzer water it becomes an "egg cream."

And of course eggs from happy, pasture-roaming chickens have the advantage of being virtually salmonella free.

If you eat fish, you can have roe, which I believe is pretty high-fat. See my vinegar-free salad dressing recipes:

http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=377849

[AimeeJoi]

How do you make coconut yogurt? Sounds good. So does adding seltzer water to your egg drink.
Sometimes I make coconut jello with unflavored gelatin and coconut milk. It is so good!

I have heard that you can break the cheese habit if you really want to but I don't know if I have enough motivation to do it. It was easy for me to go gluten free when I found out I was allergic because I knew I was really hurting myself to eat it but with cheese I don't notice any outright negative reactions so I rationalize to myself why I don't need to stop eating it. I'm open to convincing if you want to take a shot. :lol: :help:

[capmikee]

How do you make coconut yogurt? Sounds good.
It's a bit tricky to get it started, but once it gets going you just keep adding coconut milk...

http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=377209

I have heard that you can break the cheese habit if you really want to but I don't know if I have enough motivation to do it. It was easy for me to go gluten free when I found out I was allergic because I knew I was really hurting myself to eat it but with cheese I don't notice any outright negative reactions so I rationalize to myself why I don't need to stop eating it. I'm open to convincing if you want to take a shot. :lol: :help:
Just stay open to the idea. Your body will let you know when it's time to stop.

Wifey had a big shock one day when she became strongly dairy-intolerant very suddenly. It made her really sick. A couple incidents like that and she never wanted it again. It actually took me much longer to give up dairy - 10 years ago I had a couple glasses of store-bought eggnog before going to sing at a Thanksgiving choir concert. I was dry-heaving in the bathroom for the entire event. It took me 6 or 7 years to admit that I really can't handle dairy!

[Wifezilla]

COconut milk and avocado can help keep the fat level high. I go through about a can of coconut milk a day :D

[capmikee]

I forgot avocado! There's a cafe nearby that will make an unsweetened avocado/coconut smoothie if I ask them. It's fabulous!

[CValentine]

Yes! Coconut, avocado!
DOn't forget about raw whole nuts...I Love sunflower seeds & brazil nuts!
Good stuff there! ~Cheryl