OT: Armed nurses?

[Omelet]

I don't know about Vegas, but the place I work has a strict
anti-gun policy and our security guards are not armed.
Fortunately, there is nearly always a police officer in or
near the ER:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080328/ap_on_re_us/hospital-
_shootings

3 killed in Ga. hospital shooting spree

By KATE BRUMBACK,

Associated Press Writer Thu Mar 27, 2008.

COLUMBUS, Ga. - A retired teacher bearing a grudge over his
mother's treatment at the hospital where she died fatally shot
one of her nurses, another employee and a man outside Thursday
before police shot him, authorities said.

Charles Johnston, 63, is being charged with murder and will be
turned over to police after an overnight stay in another
hospital, where he was treated for a shoulder wound, Police
Chief Ricky Boren said.

The chief said the gunman arrived at Doctors Hospital with
three pistols, including a 9mm automatic and a .38-caliber
revolver, and went to the fifth-floor intensive care unit
where his mother had been in 2004.

"He blamed a male nurse. He didn't think his mother had been
properly cared for," Boren said.

Boren gave the following account:

Johnston overheard someone call the nurse's name, then waited
until he went into an empty room, where he confronted him,
saying: "Do you remember me? Do you remember my mother?"

He shot him once; the nurse started to run, then fell in the
hall after being shot again.

When the gunman started to leave, an administrative secretary
entered the area, saying, "Where did he go?" As he rounded a
corner, he was shot, too, Boren said.

The gunman started to take an elevator but finding it too slow
went down the stairs.

As he was getting into his car in the parking lot, another car
pulled in facing his, and the driver was shot as he got out of
the vehicle. That man died later.

A city deputy marshal arrived in the parking lot; he fired at
her and she shot back, but neither was hit. A plainclothes
detective blocked the gunman's car, and when Johnston pulled a
gun, the detective shot him, Boren said.

Johnston, who used to teach school, appears to be in
satisfactory condition after surgery, Boren said.

Columbus is in western Georgia, on the Alabama line.
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[Andrzej Ro]

Dnia 2008-03-29 Omelet napisa³(a):
> I don't know about Vegas, but the place I work has a strict
> anti-gun policy and our security guards are not armed.
> Fortunately, there is nearly always a police officer in or
> near the ER:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080328/ap_on_re_us/hospital_s-
> hootings
>
> 3 killed in Ga. hospital shooting spree
>
> By KATE BRUMBACK,
>
> Associated Press Writer Thu Mar 27, 2008.
>
> COLUMBUS, Ga. - A retired teacher bearing a grudge over his
> mother's treatment at the hospital where she died fatally
> shot one of her nurses, another employee and a man outside
> Thursday before police shot him, authorities said.
>
> Charles Johnston, 63, is being charged with murder and will
> be turned over to police after an overnight stay in another
> hospital, where he was treated for a shoulder wound, Police
> Chief Ricky Boren said.
>
> The chief said the gunman arrived at Doctors Hospital with
> three pistols, including a 9mm automatic and a .38-caliber
> revolver, and went to the fifth-floor intensive care unit
> where his mother had been in 2004.
>
> "He blamed a male nurse. He didn't think his mother had been
> properly cared for," Boren said.
>
> Boren gave the following account:
>
> Johnston overheard someone call the nurse's name, then
> waited until he went into an empty room, where he confronted
> him, saying: "Do you remember me? Do you remember my
> mother?"
>
> He shot him once; the nurse started to run, then fell in the
> hall after being shot again.
>
> When the gunman started to leave, an administrative
> secretary entered the area, saying, "Where did he go?" As he
> rounded a corner, he was shot, too, Boren said.
>
> The gunman started to take an elevator but finding it too
> slow went down the stairs.
>
> As he was getting into his car in the parking lot, another
> car pulled in facing his, and the driver was shot as he got
> out of the vehicle. That man died later.
>
> A city deputy marshal arrived in the parking lot; he fired
> at her and she shot back, but neither was hit. A
> plainclothes detective blocked the gunman's car, and when
> Johnston pulled a gun, the detective shot him, Boren said.
>
> Johnston, who used to teach school, appears to be in
> satisfactory condition after surgery, Boren said.
>
> Columbus is in western Georgia, on the Alabama line.

And you conclude that more guns would obviously solve this
kind of problem? I never heard about any shootouts like that
here. Ever!

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Andrzej Rosa 1127R

[Stromata]

Andrzej Rosa wrote:
>
> And you conclude that more guns would obviously solve this
> kind of problem? I never heard about any shootouts like that
> here. Ever!

Ah so innocent people have to die to assuage your
anti-gun hysteria.

[Omelet]

In article <pul2c5-r7i.ln1@bakters.bandit.home>, Andrzej Rosa
<bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:

> And you conclude that more guns would obviously solve this
> kind of problem? I never heard about any shootouts like that
> here. Ever!
>
> --
> Andrzej Rosa 1127R

Does not have to be a "shootout". One well aimed shot would
do. My point was that hospitals are generally "gun free"
zones. That fills them with helpless victims.

I work in health care. I cannot even commute with a weapon in
my car because I can't leave it in the car in the parking lot,
and I cannot take it in the building.

And our security guards are also unarmed.

We are totally helpless against an armed maniac.
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Peace! Om

"Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. They
have never forgotten this." - Heinlein

[Omelet]

In article <dVyHj.517$at6.18@trndny01>, "Stromata"
<d@d.com> wrote:

> Andrzej Rosa wrote:
> >
> > And you conclude that more guns would obviously solve this
> > kind of problem? I never heard about any shootouts like
> > that here. Ever!
>
> Ah so innocent people have to die to assuage your anti-gun
> hysteria.

Yep.
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Peace! Om

"Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. They
have never forgotten this." - Heinlein

[Stromata]

Andrzej Rosa wrote:
> Dnia 2008-03-29 Stromata napisa³(a):
>> Andrzej Rosa wrote:
>>>
>>> And you conclude that more guns would obviously solve this
>>> kind of problem? I never heard about any shootouts like
>>> that here. Ever!
>>
>> Ah so innocent people have to die to assuage your anti-gun
>> hysteria.
>
> Innocent people were shot to death by some hysteric armed
> with a gun.

So innocent people shouldn't have the ability to defend
themselves against hysterics with guns.

[Lucas Buck]

On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:08:43 +0100, Andrzej Rosa
<bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Dnia 2008-03-29 Stromata napisa³(a):
>> Andrzej Rosa wrote:
>>>
>>> And you conclude that more guns would obviously solve this
>>> kind of problem? I never heard about any shootouts like
>>> that here. Ever!
>>
>> Ah so innocent people have to die to assuage your anti-gun
>> hysteria.
>
>Innocent people were shot to death by some hysteric armed
>with a gun.

Yes, such homicides never happen without a gun:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Land_fire

This killer of 87 people is eligible for parole in 7 years.
Ironically, he would have faced a more severe sentence had he
killed 1 person with a gun instead of 87 without one.

[Omelet]

In article <b8r2c5-2am.ln1@bakters.bandit.home>, Andrzej Rosa
<bakters@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dnia 2008-03-29 Stromata napisa³(a):
> > Andrzej Rosa wrote:
> >>
> >> And you conclude that more guns would obviously solve
> >> this kind of problem? I never heard about any shootouts
> >> like that here. Ever!
> >
> > Ah so innocent people have to die to assuage your anti-gun
> > hysteria.
>
> Innocent people were shot to death by some hysteric armed
> with a gun.

Yet.
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Peace! Om

"Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. They
have never forgotten this." - Heinlein

[Lucas Buck]

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:29:28 GMT, "Stromata" <d@d.com> wrote:

>Andrzej Rosa wrote:
>> Dnia 2008-03-29 Stromata napisa³(a):
>>> Andrzej Rosa wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And you conclude that more guns would obviously solve
>>>> this kind of problem? I never heard about any shootouts
>>>> like that here. Ever!
>>>
>>> Ah so innocent people have to die to assuage your anti-gun
>>> hysteria.
>>
>> Innocent people were shot to death by some hysteric armed
>> with a gun.
>
>So innocent people shouldn't have the ability to defend
>themselves against hysterics with guns.

And/or there shouldn't be male nurses.

[Omelet]

In article <r4huu3tibu39sogl8gdplv0udln4lpv2ak@4ax.com>, Lucas
Buck <sbcpark@earthlink.NOSPAM.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:29:28 GMT, "Stromata" <d@d.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Andrzej Rosa wrote:
> >> Dnia 2008-03-29 Stromata napisa³(a):
> >>> Andrzej Rosa wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> And you conclude that more guns would obviously solve
> >>>> this kind of problem? I never heard about any shootouts
> >>>> like that here. Ever!
> >>>
> >>> Ah so innocent people have to die to assuage your
> >>> anti-gun hysteria.
> >>
> >> Innocent people were shot to death by some hysteric armed
> >> with a gun.
> >
> >So innocent people shouldn't have the ability to defend
> >themselves against hysterics with guns.
>
> And/or there shouldn't be male nurses.

What difference does _that_ make?
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Peace! Om

"Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. They
have never forgotten this." - Heinlein

[Omelet]

In article <ft13b6$6ii$1@aioe.org>, "someguy"
<someguy@home.com> wrote:

> "Lucas Buck" <sbcpark@earthlink.NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:r4huu3tibu39sogl8gdplv0udln4lpv2ak@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:29:28 GMT, "Stromata" <d@d.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Andrzej Rosa wrote:
> >>> Dnia 2008-03-29 Stromata napisa³(a):
> >>>> Andrzej Rosa wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And you conclude that more guns would obviously solve
> >>>>> this kind of problem? I never heard about any
> >>>>> shootouts like that here. Ever!
> >>>>
> >>>> Ah so innocent people have to die to assuage your
> >>>> anti-gun hysteria.
> >>>
> >>> Innocent people were shot to death by some hysteric
> >>> armed with a gun.
> >>
> >>So innocent people shouldn't have the ability to defend
> >>themselves against hysterics with guns.
> >
> > And/or there shouldn't be male nurses.
>
> Get nervous when one approaches you with a thermometer???

Soft restraints.
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Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a
Bitch."
-- Jack
Nicholson

[David Cohe]

On Mar 30, 12:43=A0am, Lucas Buck
<sbcp...@earthlink.NOSPAM.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:29:28 GMT, "Stromata"
> <d...@d.com> wrote:
> >Andrzej Rosa wrote:
> >> Dnia 2008-03-29 Stromata napisa=B3(a):
> >>> Andrzej Rosa wrote:
>
> >>>> And you conclude that more guns would obviously solve
> >>>> this kind of problem? =A0I never heard about any
> >>>> shootouts like that here. =A0Ever=
!
>
> >>> Ah so innocent people have to die to assuage your
> >>> anti-gun hysteria.
>
> >> Innocent people were shot to death by some hysteric armed
> >> with a gun.
>
> >So innocent people shouldn't have the ability to defend
> >themselves agains=
t
> >hysterics with guns.
>
> And/or there shouldn't be male nurses.

True, dat.

David