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BigLoser18
Sun, Mar-16-08, 13:44
Hi Everyone!!
I'm new to this forum && the diet. IM doing a low cal/low carb diet under the supervision of a Registered Nurse. I'm 19 years old and on March 13, 2008 I weighed 250 lbs. Today is my fourth day on the diet and I weight 243 lbs :)
My diet contributes to the Trim Body System. This is a low carb/ low cal diet. This diet is EXTREMELY strict. You are only aloud to eat/ drink the bars and shakes they provide made from organic/soy ingrediets.
I use to be on Atkins 2 years ago, but that wasn't for me.
This diet is hard because you dont have variety but my moto is "if you want something bad enough you gotta sacrafice something good enough, and if you cant then you probably dont want it bad enough" :)
7 lbs down!!! Many More to Loose :) Let the magic continue
ruthla
Sun, Mar-16-08, 14:03
Wow- I'm impressed that a medical professional actually beleives in low carb! Most doctors, nurses, and dieticians I've encountered are big pushers of the USDA's high fiber, low fat recomendations.
Congrats on your weight loss so far! It's likely a lot of water weight, so don't be surprised if the weight loss slows down after a few more days.
The real challenge is going to come when the weight is off and you go off the prepared diet foods and start eating regular foods again and learn how to make good choices.
Wifezilla
Sun, Mar-16-08, 14:05
Low carb AND low cal...PLUS SOY? This is not a diet, it is a recipe for disaster....not to mention a handy profit center for the maker of the required bars and shakes.
BigLoser18
Sun, Mar-16-08, 14:15
Low carb AND low cal...PLUS SOY? This is not a diet, it is a recipe for disaster....not to mention a handy profit center for the maker of the required bars and shakes.
I would agree with what you just said if I didnt see it myself. The nurse who is helping me is actully my aunt, whom herself was on this diet and lost alot of weight and never gained it back even after she stopped. You really have to understand science of the humanbody to understand this diet. Im a nursing major so Im well prepared :)
LowCarbRob
Sun, Mar-16-08, 14:17
I hate to comment on a diet I know relatively little about, but I checked out their website and saw some surprising things...
The meal replacement bars are all in the 27-31 net carb range, shakes are 14 carbs. (This is listed in the "ON THE ATKINS DIET? TRY A TRIM ADVANTAGE TREAT" pdf from their website). Many of the recipes listed (under Resources) are not anything I'd include in my LC diet.
Bigloser18 - Congratulations on your success so far. I really wish you all the best. You might discuss with your nurse how this diet works once you hit your goal weight. Good Luck!
Delphoene
Sun, Mar-16-08, 14:58
Looks like those protein bars have a lot of sugar alcohols -16g is way too much for me to consider, but then I have to count them on my plan. BigLoser, you say that Atkins wasn't for you. Can you remember what you had trouble with?
Wifezilla
Sun, Mar-16-08, 16:42
You really have to understand science of the humanbody to understand this diet.
I am perfectly aware of how the body works. That's why what you decribed is not a good idea. It may help you lose weight, but at what cost? Low calories can put you in starvation mode, which makes it impossible for you to return to normal calorie levels without gaining weight.
Do you have any clue what soy does? How it effects hormones? The anti-nutrients contained in non-fermented soy?
Your post sounds more like a commercial than anything.
And what problem did you have with Atkins? Atkins isn't the ONLY way to low carb. Many people have a problem with INDUCTION...but an induction isn't required for HEALTHY low carb.
Nothing you can say will convince me that premade bars and shakes are healthier than fresh REAL food. Sorry.
OH! This is a Quixstar product!
This is spam people!!!!
LessLiz
Sun, Mar-16-08, 17:22
You really have to understand science of the humanbody to understand this diet. Im a nursing major so Im well prepared Nothing like a little condescension on a Sunday afternoon.
We have doctors, nurses, research biochemists, vets as well as spouses and children of the same on this forum. Not to mention hundreds of people who have read everything they can get their hands on about nutrition and biochemistry. Nor people who do and have done scientific research.
Enjoy your bars and shakes, and best wishes on weight loss.
David_K
Sun, Mar-16-08, 17:23
Yeah, doesn't sound healthy at all. And who says you have to sacrifice? I've lost 45 pounds and haven't sacrificed at all!
Wifezilla
Sun, Mar-16-08, 17:37
Here is some information for anyone who wants to get involved with Quixtar...
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/
http://www.merchantsofdeception.com/
http://quixtarisacultintervention.blogspot.com/
"Amway has had a dismal track record which continues to the present day as Quixtar (and soon to be Amway Global). People entering this--so called--business usually exit it much worse off than they started. It is a Biz for loosers. It is nearly 100% successful--99% of all people entering loose money; their Biz will never shows a real profit. If success in your wonderful home business is to loose money, Amway is a nearly perfect avenue to do so. "
perfectfit
Sun, Mar-16-08, 20:16
This is a low carb/ low cal diet. This diet is EXTREMELY strict.
So was Kimkins and we all know what happened there. :thdown:
MizKitty
Sun, Mar-16-08, 20:28
This is a low carb/ low cal diet. This diet is EXTREMELY strict. You are only aloud to eat/ drink the bars and shakes they provide made from organic/soy ingrediets.
I use to be on Atkins 2 years ago, but that wasn't for me.
This diet is hard because you dont have variety but my moto is "if you want something bad enough you gotta sacrafice something good enough, and if you cant then you probably dont want it bad enough"
Bigloser, I have a motto too. I won't do anything to lose weight that I'm not willing to do forever. Because I've learned through past failures that there is only one way to maintain weight loss... you need to continue doing what you did to lose the weight. That doesn't seem likely with one of these quick loss meal replacement plans.
I've lost 127 pounds eating delicious, nutritious, fresh whole foods, and quite the opposite of feeling like I sacrifice, i love the way I'm eating and have no plans to change ever.
Good luck with your plan.
BeautyG
Sun, Mar-16-08, 21:41
Wow- I'm impressed that a medical professional actually beleives in low carb! Most doctors, nurses, and dieticians I've encountered are big pushers of the USDA's high fiber, low fat recomendations.
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Not me!!! I'm a med student and major atkineer. I think it starts in med school when everyone wants an excuse to drink beer after their shifts and well, atkins doesn't allow that :). Most med students are pretty darn self-righteous. That's the problem- it gets worse with age.
David_K
Sun, Mar-16-08, 23:39
Not me!!! I'm a med student and major atkineer. I think it starts in med school when everyone wants an excuse to drink beer after their shifts and well, atkins doesn't allow that :). Most med students are pretty darn self-righteous. That's the problem- it gets worse with age.
They just gotta go for hard liquor then. :lol:
BigLoser18
Mon, Mar-17-08, 00:37
Thanks to everyone who is encouraging me and discouraging me!
First of all, I would like to clear somethings out. I wasnt on this forum for commercial or anything, I'm just a teenager struggling to lose weight and I thought you guys might be able to help.
Second of all I'm not taking meal replacement shakes or bars to whomever saw on the website. I consume bars and shakes that only have 3-4 net carbs.
And low cals does not equal to starvation when those low calories have extremely high intakes of protein amounts.
These bars and shakes are only to help me lose the first 40-50 lbs. Once I lose that much I will be shifting more towards atkins and real food.
Everyone has different views of things, and opinions are welcome :)
Hey I'm just a teenage girl trying to lose weight.
Its not easy being 19 and wearing cloths from the old women's section, its not easy going to the mall and never being able to buy cloths from Gap or american eagle like my friends, its not easy being 19 and have no idea what it feels like to be on a date, its just not easy going to great america and being scared of the rides just so the belt fits or does not fit.
:)
jande2211
Mon, Mar-17-08, 02:36
Here is some information for anyone who wants to get involved with Quixtar...
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/
http://www.merchantsofdeception.com/
http://quixtarisacultintervention.blogspot.com/
"Amway has had a dismal track record which continues to the present day as Quixtar (and soon to be Amway Global). People entering this--so called--business usually exit it much worse off than they started. It is a Biz for loosers. It is nearly 100% successful--99% of all people entering loose money; their Biz will never shows a real profit. If success in your wonderful home business is to loose money, Amway is a nearly perfect avenue to do so. "
Ouch. Don't have to like the info, but must have the info. Really hate bloodsuckers like that. Thanks for posting.
jande2211
Mon, Mar-17-08, 02:48
Oops (not oopsie). Double post. Hate that.
Wifezilla
Mon, Mar-17-08, 08:17
Its not easy being 19 and wearing cloths from the old women's section, its not easy going to the mall and never being able to buy cloths from Gap or american eagle like my friends, its not easy being 19 and have no idea what it feels like to be on a date, its just not easy going to great america and being scared of the rides just so the belt fits or does not fit.
Uhhh...I may be 44 NOW, but I was 19 once. (Us old people don't spring from the ground this way ya know.)
Uliana
Mon, Mar-17-08, 08:33
I don't understand about the lack of variety on Atkins. My DH and I have been on this diet for 5 years and the only thing we don't eat is rice, potatoes (ok, I eat a small amount once a month or so), or anything made with white flour or sugars. Once in a while we eat the higher-carb sweet fruits such as apples or oranges, as opposed to peaches or berries which we have more often. We occasionally eat sweet vegetables such as beets, carrots, etc. That leaves a lot that we eat of frequently:all lettuces, spinach, radishes, cucumbers, broccoli, cauliflower, asparagus, etc; cheeses of many varieties; all meats (well, maybe not tripe, brains etc), eggs.... the list goes on. There is in fact a lot of variety on Atkins. ;) And its all tasty :yum:
Wifezilla
Mon, Mar-17-08, 10:40
There is in fact a lot of variety on Atkins. And its all tasty
Exactly. I have tried more new recipes while low carbing since last May than I have for the previous 20-some years I lived out on my own!
People who deride low carb diets like Atkins for a lack of variety either never really learned how to cook, lack imagination or are lying pieces of crap who just want you to buy their pre-packaged, overpriced garbage.
alsmez
Mon, Mar-17-08, 11:47
BigLoser18, I know just how you feel - I was around 250 lbs in my teens (size 20) and you're right, it TOTALLY sucks to not be able to shop at the Gap. When I was a teenager (12-15 years ago), Lane Bryant was still selling polyester muumuus and there were NO other plus-size stores within a 3 hour drive of my home. I wore a LOT of men's clothing!
When I went to college, I decided I needed to do something about it and I went on an extreme low-fat diet. I managed to lose enough weight to get into a size 16 at the Gap - let me tell you, buying those jeans was one of the happiest days of my life! However, the diet was unsustainable and unhealthy, and I eventually gained most of the weight back.
The wise people on this board are concerned that you are embarking on a similarly unsustainable diet. You state that after the first 40-50 lbs are gone, you'll switch to a more Atkins-style approach, but that you tried Atkins before and it "wasn't for you." Will it be for you when you lose the 50 lbs on shakes/bars? If so, why not skip the faux-food meal replacements and just go on Atkins now? If not, what type of diet will you use when the shakes/bars are no longer an option?
We all really do wish you the best of luck - those who are discouraging you from trying this Trim Body System are most likely those who've been there, done that, bought the size small t-shirt AND the size XXL t-shirt for the rebound weight. Keep posting and let us know if you have any questions or need suggestions on how to make a low-carb plan that incorporates REAL FOOD palatable to you!
BigLoser18
Mon, Mar-17-08, 12:16
Thanks.
YOu guys may be right, but Im not quiting this time, so I'm just sticking to what I have started and one day I will succeed and look back and be proud of myself.
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