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Demi
Fri, Feb-22-08, 02:27
The Telegraph
London, UK
22 February, 2008


'Firemen's lift is not for a 42-stone man'

A crew of 10 firemen were called out four times in one week to lift a 41-stone (574lb) man in his own home.

They travelled in two engines to Robert Marsden's council house and on one occasion were asked only to move him from one side of his bed to the other.

It led to a fire brigade union leader complaining yesterday that crews should not be dealing with obese people when they could be needed at real emergencies.

The call-outs were made to Mr Marsden's ground floor flat in Grangemouth, Stirlingshire, last week, where he receives daily visits from carers.

Gordon McQuade, of the Fire Brigades Union, said: "On one of the occasions it was simply to assist the council's Mobile Emergency Care Service to move him across his bed. That is not a medical emergency. Firefighters will always attend to help out in medical emergencies. We have no problem with that.

"But when you tie up two fire engines and 10 firefighters to move someone two feet across a bed you have to ask, should we be doing that in case other incidents come in?

"We don't have any special equipment or portable hoists to lift people like this. Even with 10 firefighters, if you're pushing someone who is more than 40 stone (560lb), you can put your back out."

Mr Marsden, 40, who is unemployed and spends much of his day in bed, said he did not understand "what the fuss was about".

He added: "The firemen came here and got on with their job, and once they were finished they went on to their next job. Sometimes I slide to the floor in my living room, and it's hard to get back up.

"I try not to make a regular habit of ringing for help, but sometimes there is nothing I can do. Of course I'm grateful to the fire service. There are people up and down the country just like me.

"My weight isn't something I like to discuss. It comes up in every conversation I have. I am tired of talking about it." The FBU said that with morbid obesity becoming more common, the NHS should provide on-call assistance and hoists to allow firemen to concentrate on their real duties.

Mr McQuade added: "We are seeing a large increase in this type of call where obese patients require to be moved within their house, but there is actually nothing medically wrong with them."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/22/nfat122.xml

Equinox
Sat, Feb-23-08, 07:26
The title of this piece cracked me up... "firemen's lift" has nothing to do with 10 firemen lifting a giant obese person, it's when a single fireman carries someone draped over their shoulders...

In this case, the poor fireman would be squashed...

But the problem is a serious one, not to mention a tragic situation to find oneself in... I'm training to be a health professional myself, and the obesity epidemic is a serious concern even though Norway doesn't have that many morbidly obese as yet compared with some other nations (thank God).

Moving obese people should be the national health service in question's concern, not the fire brigade, but only if we get hoists, cranes, whatever else is needed. Too many nurses are on semi-permanent sick leave as it is, either from back problems or burn-out, we don't need to add to it. Pity the people who may burn alive because the fire brigade are "needed" elsewhere!

This story hit a little close to home for me.

2bthinner!
Wed, Feb-27-08, 22:47
"The firemen came here and got on with their jobBut, it's not their job to go out to people's houses and move them. Rescue yes, turn them, no. (did you see Chuck and Larry?) :wave:

PS. Wasn't there an incident where something was used inappropriately and the city sued for the cost of running the vehicles and manpower? I'll have to research. That's probably some of it. They "already pay for it as taxpayers". :help: I think it was that woman who ran away from her fiance, but faked a kidnapping. I know, it's not quite the same.