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Demi
Tue, Nov-27-07, 01:14
The Telegraph
London, UK
27 November, 2007


'Old and fat employee' was 'forced out'

A grandmother was forced out of her job with a weight-loss motivation company because she was too old and fat, a tribunal heard yesterday.

Brenda Tolley, 64, had held one of the most important posts at Slimming World but was forced out because she no longer fitted their image, the tribunal was told.

Mrs Tolley, who had run award-winning classes for the group, helping thousands of people to lose extra pounds, quit her £30,000-a-year job after managers took half of her responsibilities away from her.

She is claiming age discrimination and unfair dismissal.

The tribunal panel in Reading heard yesterday that Mrs Tolley felt managers "ganged up" on her and forced her out of her role with the company - despite her 12 years of service and multiple awards.

Mrs Tolley, of Bracknell, Berks, began working for Slimming World in Alfreton, Derbs, soon after becoming a member herself in 1995.

Shortly afterwards she was approached about becoming a consultant, a role that involved running her own classes.

By 1999 she had four classes under her supervision and became a team developer for the Wokingham and Bracknell areas.

This involved additional responsibilities such as helping to expand the Slimming World business, and saw her earnings rise to £30,000 a year.

Mrs Tolley told the panel that out of the blue on April 17 of this year she was called in for a meeting with her line manager, Lisa Armstrong, and regional manager, Yvonne Sanders.

The tribunal heard that her performance was criticised and she was told she had to give up half of her classes and half of her team of consultants.

This was despite her having an award-winning team and receiving company awards for attracting more than 100 people to some of her classes.

It was at this point that she wrote to Caryl Richards, Slimming World's managing director, tendering her resignation.

In papers presented to the tribunal yesterday, Mrs Tolley said she felt she had been discriminated against by managers.

"Soon after I had left I found out that my class had been taken over by someone much younger than me and this, along with one or two other things, led me to believe that the reason why Slimming World had wanted to get rid of me was because I was too old and did not have the right look or image that they were after."

Speaking at the pre-hearing, she said: "I felt I did not have a chance. I felt ganged up on at that point, I was not getting the support."

The tribunal heard that Slimming World bosses offered her the chance to talk about the situation at three meetings but she refused, claiming she did not think they would make any difference.

The pre-hearing review continues.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/27/nslim127.xml

ojoj
Tue, Nov-27-07, 01:34
interesting. I'm not sure what I think about this one, although it does beg the question, if slimmingworld is so great how come its employees arent slim - which maybe their thoughts????,

That said, she doesnt look particularly large to me, although if the product you're selling and supposed to believe in is a slimming one, then you should be slim!!

.... makes you think doesnt it!

rightnow
Tue, Nov-27-07, 05:57
Sounds like there could be a lot of reasons there that might not have anything to do with age or weight.

Wifezilla
Tue, Nov-27-07, 07:14
Wasn't this on an episode of Little Britain?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzAlQQo509c

KvonM
Tue, Nov-27-07, 08:47
personally, i'd rather take an exercise class from someone older and heavier than some skinny little muscle-bound twit who's never dealt with being overweight. i'd rather be with someone i can identify with than a teacher who can't respect me because i don't look like she does or keep up with her.

ojoj
Tue, Nov-27-07, 08:56
Wasn't this on an episode of Little Britain?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzAlQQo509c

PMSL!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

jande2211
Tue, Nov-27-07, 16:28
personally, i'd rather take an exercise class from someone older and heavier than some skinny little muscle-bound twit who's never dealt with being overweight. i'd rather be with someone i can identify with than a teacher who can't respect me because i don't look like she does or keep up with her.


How would you know the "skinny little muscle-bound twit" had never dealt with being overweight?

rightnow
Tue, Nov-27-07, 16:39
Given the "successful diet" percentage is like 2% or so, and given the masses of our society are indoctrinated with highcarb, I bet the probabilities are against it. Not impossible tho!

waywardsis
Tue, Nov-27-07, 19:13
Yep...this article immediately made me think of "Fat Fighters".

Dust. Anybody? No? High fat or low fat?

Wifezilla
Wed, Nov-28-07, 12:27
That one is damn funny too.

If anyone is curious, here is a link to that sketch...
http://www.youtube.com/v/qcVZg2tVswk&rel=1

rightnow
Wed, Nov-28-07, 12:37
Wasn't this on an episode of Little Britain?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzAlQQo509c
That was hilarious!

jande2211
Wed, Nov-28-07, 14:06
That weigh in . . . Kimmer came to mind.

Oops, sorry if I said a name I shouldn't.

Wifezilla
Wed, Nov-28-07, 15:29
I always said that is where she got her training....LOL

ProfGumby
Wed, Nov-28-07, 22:18
interesting. I'm not sure what I think about this one, although it does beg the question, if slimmingworld is so great how come its employees arent slim - which maybe their thoughts????,

That said, she doesnt look particularly large to me, although if the product you're selling and supposed to believe in is a slimming one, then you should be slim!!

.... makes you think doesnt it!

You have an excellent point there ojoj! However that last bit can be somewhat subjective, IMHO

If, as in the case of many here, she is losing weight and/or was formerly like 2 x her current weight, then no. I have no issue with someone who is following a weight loss doctrine/WOE if they are still in process.

But then that is also akin to having a rather overweight nurse who is also a smoker, telling you that Atkins/LC will kill you, right?

And as the post below yours points out, we do only know what is i the story, there could be a whole other lot of troubles and this is what the woman who resigned (that part is important to me in wondering if there is more to the story) chose to focus on/blame.

I really hope she was not forced out due to her age or weight, though I do have a hard time taking advice from someone who leads a contrary example of a life....

I still think there may be more to this than meets the eye....IMHO

ojoj
Thu, Nov-29-07, 06:11
You have an excellent point there ojoj! However that last bit can be somewhat subjective, IMHO

If, as in the case of many here, she is losing weight and/or was formerly like 2 x her current weight, then no. I have no issue with someone who is following a weight loss doctrine/WOE if they are still in process.

But then that is also akin to having a rather overweight nurse who is also a smoker, telling you that Atkins/LC will kill you, right?



It is subjective, and actually when you think of reasons and arguments for and against - what does it matter if the "leader" is fat, slim etc.... However. I was working on the theory of when I used to go to weightwatchers, one of the ladies who ran our classes was enormous - and I found it hard to take her seriously, in fact she was constantly going on about how difficult weight loss was - it put me off in the end! A lot of people who go to these things want to see someone who they can aspire to - but thats just me.

rightnow
Thu, Nov-29-07, 07:42
I think I agree. Talking the talk vs. walking the walk is a big deal. Certainly when it comes to inspiring others.

Demi
Mon, Dec-17-07, 02:36
From today's edition of The Daily Telegraph:


Slimming World

Last Updated: 2:56am GMT 17/12/2007

Our report (Nov 27) of Brenda Tolley's claims of unfair dismissal and age discrimination against Slimming World did not include either the company's response or the outcome.

The company's managing director told the Reading employment tribunal that Mrs Tolley had tendered her resignation following a meeting to address concerns about her performance in developing team groups that were unrelated to her age or appearance.

The tribunal dismissed Mrs Tolley's application on the basis that she was a self employed franchisee rather than an employee of the company and had not mentioned her grievance about age discrimination within a legally defined period.

We apologise to Slimming World for not including these matters in our report.

Slimming World has asked us to point out that they choose all staff for their compassion and ability to help others succeed in losing weight and that they do not practise discrimination of any kind.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/17/nslim117.xml