Lean meat versus Fatty meat for weight loss?

[MeatGood]

Lean meat versus Fatty meat for weight loss?
I am sure at some point this has been discussed, but since we are not being flooded with new threads daily, I figured I would ask.

This isn’t really a question of whether lean meats or fatty meats were a part of the normal paleo. era way of eating, it is a question of eating which would result in the fastest weight loss.

In once since it seems to stand to reason that the less fat we take in to replace the fat we are using, the faster we should lose weight, given that the carb. intake does not change. But, other schools of thought say that it is all about Calories IN versus Calories OUT. So, if you simply eat fewer Calories you will lose the weight faster and if you eat the same number of calories from fat meat or lean meat and everything else stays the same, then the rate of weight loss should remain the same.

So what do you think, do you think eating leaner meats would cause faster weight loss?

[Nancy LC]

Well, fatty meats are more satisfying to the appetite and might result in more calories, but fewer desires to stray from the plan.

Frankly, I'd want to include both really. Just let my hunger guide me.

[MeatGood]

Just for the record, this is something I am curious about.
As you can see, from my profile that I was fairly successful doing the Paleo diet and I was eating fatty meats in general.
Lost around 3 to 3.5 lbs per week.

But curiousity got the better of me so I wondered if it could have been faster if I had eatten lean means.

[Muata]

Good question MeatGood; personally, I love fatty meats, except on certain portions of pork (mainly the chops) that upsets my stomach a wee bit. Other than that, I don't think twice about trimming the fat especially if I know how many calories are in the hunk of meat;)

Hey, conduct a little experiment with yourself and let us know; however, I'd suggest that you exercise a little longer to lose faster.

[mlh244]

If you take a look at CVH's 'carnivore FAQ' (http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=351459) thread, at the bottom there are some links and I think the one about 'why low-carb diets must be high-fat' (http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/fat-not-protein.html) , among others, will answer your question. Those links are useful for everyone doing the paleo woe, not just the totally carnivorous among us.

[Hybrid]

The NeanderThin 4th Edition idea is to trim the fat off of meat, but supplement it with healthy oils from vegetable sources. E.g., cut all visible fat from a steak and either have a salad with lots of dressing and topped with ground flax seed, or just slather said oils onto the meat itself. The idea is to keep as close to a 1:1 ratio of Omega 3:6.

Fat itself should make up the majority of one's diet, to the tune of 50-80%.

[PlaneCrazy]

As those who have read my posts before know, for me, the more fat I eat, the more fat I lose. Fat on meat is not a "bad" fat at all, by the way. As has been shown many times before (it's well described in Gary Taubes' new book), the fat from a porterhouse steak is actually mostly the monounsaturated fat found in olive oil, oleic acid, with much of the rest being steric acid which is metabolized in your body into oleic acid.

Good quality, fatty meat will always make me lose much faster and feel better. If I have to eat a meal of mostly lean meat, I am not satisfied and eat more, and feel more bloated after. This happened to me earlier this week when my wife did the rare thing and cooked. (I cook 90% of the time) I make it a policy of never criticizing her cooking since I want to encourage her to continue to do so. :) Unfortunately, what she cooked was her mother's roast beef recipe, which uses a very lean, and thus very dry cut. I ended up eating more than I should have just to try and feel full. I should have made some of my sour cream gravy to go on it, but even that wouldn't have helped much. When I eat a chunk of fatty meatloaf, on the other hand, I don't need nearly as much to feel satisfied and full. I eat less, my body stays in ketosis, I lose weight.

This week I made some of my own recipe Hungarian Pork Soup. I make sure I use plenty of my home-made lard to saute the veggies. That extra fat helps to keep me from having to eat large amounts of the soup which does have carbs from tomatoes, carrots and onions in it. This evening we ate leftovers and I had some of the soup. I wanted to make sure I didn't need to eat much, so I put about a half-teaspoon of the lard in the bottom of the bowl and then spooned the soup over it. The hot soup melted the lard, which mixed with the paprika and sour cream I dolloped into it to form a beautiful pattern of reddish orange dots on the surface of the soup. And man, what a flavor! Rich, satisfying, full of complexity and what food scientists constantly strive to achieve, "mouth feel."

One medium bowl was quite enough for dinner. Fat is quite effective at making you feel full, giving you energy and encouraging your body to use your fat reserves as fuel. And it makes everything taste better.

It works for me.

Plane

[kallyn]

I wanted to make sure I didn't need to eat much, so I put about a half-teaspoon of the lard in the bottom of the bowl and then spooned the soup over it.

I always do this when I make soup. I find most soups to be relatively low fat, and I have to eat so much of it to feel full that my stomach sloshes! Adding in a spoonful of fat to my bowl makes things just right. :)