Iron in Asians and Pacific Islanders

[Ironjustic]

Any guesses .. ?

<<snip>> unclear <<snip>>

Arch Intern Med. 2007;167:722-726.

Serum Ferritin and Transferrin Saturation in Asians and
Pacific Islanders Emily L. Harris, PhD, MPH; Christine E.
McLaren, PhD; David M. Reboussin, PhD; Victor R. Gordeuk,
MD; James C. Barton, MD; Ronald T. Acton, PhD; Gordon D.
McLaren, MD; Thomas M. Vogt, MD; Beverly M. Snively, PhD;
Catherine Leiendecker-Foster, MS; Joan L. Holup, MA; Leah V.
Passmore, MS; John H. Eckfeldt, MD, PhD; Edward Lin, MD,
FRCPC; Paul C. Adams, MD

Background Asians and Pacific Islanders in the Hemochromatosis
and Iron Overload Screening (HEIRS) Study had the highest
prevalence of elevated serum ferritin (SF) and transferrin
saturation (TS) levels, but to our knowledge, the reasons for
this have not been investigated.

Methods Using multiple linear regression, we compared TS and
SF distributions for 42 720 Asian, Pacific Islander, and white
HEIRS Study participants recruited through 5 field centers in
North America who did not have HFE C282Y or H63D alleles.

Results Compared with their white counterparts, Asian men had
a 69-ng/mL (155- pmol/L) higher adjusted mean SF level and a
3% higher TS level (P<.
001); Asian women had 23-ng/mL (52-pmol/L) higher adjusted
mean SF level and a 3% higher TS level (P<.001). The mean
TS level of Asian women was higher than that of Pacific
Islander women, and the mean SF level of Pacific Islander
men was significantly higher than that of white men. These
differences remained significant after adjusting for
self-reported history of diabetes or liver disease.
Additional information for selected participants suggested
that these differences are largely unrelated to mean
corpuscular volume less than 80 fL, body mass index, or
self-reported alcohol intake. Available liver biopsy and
phlebotomy data indicated that iron overload is probably
uncommon in Asian participants.

Conclusion Higher TS and SF levels in persons of Asian or
Pacific Island heritage may need to be interpreted differently
than for whites, although the biological basis and clinical
significance of higher levels among Asians and Pacific
Islanders are unclear.

Author Affiliations: Kaiser Permanente Center for Health
Research, Portland, Ore/Honolulu, Hawaii (Drs Harris and Vogt
and Ms Holup); University of California, Irvine (Drs C.
McLaren and G. McLaren); Wake Forest University School of
Medicine, Winston-Salem, NC (Drs Reboussin and Snively and Ms
Passmore); Howard University, Washington, DC (Dr Gordeuk);
Southern Iron Disorders Center, Birmingham, Ala (Dr Barton),
and University of Alabama at Birmingham (Drs Barton and
Acton); Department of Veterans Affairs Long Beach Healthcare
System, Long Beach, Calif (Dr G. McLaren); University of
Minnesota and University of Minnesota Medical Center,
Fairview, Minneapolis (Ms Leiendecker-Foster and Dr Eckfeldt);
Rouge Valley Health System, Centenary Health Center, Toronto,
Ontario (Dr Lin); London Health Sciences Centre, London,
Ontario (Dr Adams). Dr Harris is now with the National Human
Genome Research Institute, National Institutes of Health, US
Department of Health and Human Services, Bethesda, Md.

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[monty1945]

I explained this to you a long time ago. They use coconut oil,
so they have much less PUFAs in their tissues and much less
omega 6s and/ or 3s, so the iron is much less likely to be
used in lipid peroxidation reactions, which is what causes a
large number of "diseases" - genetic differences are not
relevant here, as basic biochemical reactions are involved. If
you don't have normal basic biochemistry due to a genetic
disorder, you don't make it past infancy.

[Ironjustic]

>> On Aug 13, 1:41 pm, monty1...@lycos.com wrote:
I explained this to you a long time ago. They use coconut
oil, so they have much less PUFAs in their tissues and much
less omega 6s and/ or 3s, so the iron is much less likely to
be used in lipid peroxidation reactions, which is what causes
a large number of "diseases" - genetic differences are not
relevant here, as basic biochemical reactions are involved.
If you don't have normal basic biochemistry due to a genetic
disorder, you don't make it past infancy.<<

Let me understand.

You say there is NO iron overload / increased iron .. it is
only a consequence OF .. wrong diet. The **ferritin** is NOT
.. iron .. it is an .. inflammatory marker .. and these people
do NOT in fact have MORE .. **iron** / the metal Fe .. IN ..
their bodies .. ?

Who loves ya. Tom

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Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

[Ironjustic]

One has to figure out their criteria FOR .. being .. Asian ..
and in what time frame the study was done .. ?

http://www.nrn.org.np/medianewsdetail.php?id=106

Then who are Asians in London? ?Any person, who is not White
or Black, is Asian. That is why the innocent Brazilian guy
might have been gunned down. However, to be specific, when
people say Asians here after July 7th bombing, then it means
either Muslims of Asian origin or Arabic looking people?,
said Peter from central London, a researcher who also
practices law.

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DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk



On Aug 13, 1:26 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Any guesses .. ?
>
> <<snip>> unclear <<snip>>
>
> Arch Intern Med. 2007;167:722-726.
>
> Serum Ferritin and Transferrin Saturation in Asians and
> Pacific Islanders Emily L. Harris, PhD, MPH; Christine E.
> McLaren, PhD; David M. Reboussin, PhD; Victor R. Gordeuk,
> MD; James C. Barton, MD; Ronald T. Acton, PhD; Gordon D.
> McLaren, MD; Thomas M. Vogt, MD; Beverly M. Snively, PhD;
> Catherine Leiendecker-Foster, MS; Joan L. Holup, MA; Leah V.
> Passmore, MS; John H. Eckfeldt, MD, PhD; Edward Lin, MD,
> FRCPC; Paul C. Adams, MD
>
> Background Asians and Pacific Islanders in the
> Hemochromatosis and Iron Overload Screening (HEIRS) Study
> had the highest prevalence of elevated serum ferritin (SF)
> and transferrin saturation (TS) levels, but to our
> knowledge, the reasons for this have not been investigated.
>
> Methods Using multiple linear regression, we compared TS and
> SF distributions for 42 720 Asian, Pacific Islander, and
> white HEIRS Study participants recruited through 5 field
> centers in North America who did not have HFE C282Y or H63D
> alleles.
>
> Results Compared with their white counterparts, Asian men
> had a 69-ng/mL (155- pmol/L) higher adjusted mean SF level
> and a 3% higher TS level (P<.
> 001); Asian women had 23-ng/mL (52-pmol/L) higher adjusted
> mean SF level and a 3% higher TS level (P<.001). The
> mean TS level of Asian women was higher than that of
> Pacific Islander women, and the mean SF level of Pacific
> Islander men was significantly higher than that of white
> men. These differences remained significant after
> adjusting for self-reported history of diabetes or liver
> disease. Additional information for selected
> participants suggested that these differences are
> largely unrelated to mean corpuscular volume less than
> 80 fL, body mass index, or self-reported alcohol intake.
> Available liver biopsy and phlebotomy data indicated
> that iron overload is probably uncommon in Asian
> participants.
>
> Conclusion Higher TS and SF levels in persons of Asian or
> Pacific Island heritage may need to be interpreted
> differently than for whites, although the biological basis
> and clinical significance of higher levels among Asians and
> Pacific Islanders are unclear.
>
> Author Affiliations: Kaiser Permanente Center for Health
> Research, Portland, Ore/Honolulu, Hawaii (Drs Harris and
> Vogt and Ms Holup); University of California, Irvine (Drs C.
> McLaren and G. McLaren); Wake Forest University School of
> Medicine, Winston-Salem, NC (Drs Reboussin and Snively and
> Ms Passmore); Howard University, Washington, DC (Dr
> Gordeuk); Southern Iron Disorders Center, Birmingham, Ala
> (Dr Barton), and University of Alabama at Birmingham (Drs
> Barton and Acton); Department of Veterans Affairs Long Beach
> Healthcare System, Long Beach, Calif (Dr G. McLaren);
> University of Minnesota and University of Minnesota Medical
> Center, Fairview, Minneapolis (Ms Leiendecker-Foster and Dr
> Eckfeldt); Rouge Valley Health System, Centenary Health
> Center, Toronto, Ontario (Dr Lin); London Health Sciences
> Centre, London, Ontario (Dr Adams). Dr Harris is now with
> the National Human Genome Research Institute, National
> Institutes of Health, US Department of Health and Human
> Services, Bethesda, Md.
>
> Who loves ya. Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
>
> Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

[monty1945]

My point is that having "too much iron" is only a problem if
it is involved in dangerous biochemical reactions. You can do
your own experiment on rats or mice. Feed all an iron rich
diet, but feed half a safflower oil rich diet, while the other
half get a diet rich in fresh coconut oil instead. See which
group lives longer (who cares about the markers otherwise?).

[Ironjustic]

I suppose since ferritin / iron and levels of obesity are
linked then this .. is another .. coincidence .. ?

Wednesday, 28 November, 2001, 16:23 GMT Pacific islanders are
world's fattest

Fattier foods and a lack of exercise are blamed

Pacific islanders, especially women, are the fattest people in
the world, according to latest figures published by the
International Obesity Taskforce.

t is not about being rich and well fed. Obesity is most often
related to poverty, low economic status, exclusion from the
health system

Neville Rigby International Obesity Taskforce "The Pacific is
the world's capital of obesity," said the taskforce's director
for public affairs, Neville Rigby said.

The figures show that 55% of Tongan women, 74% percent
of Samoan women and 77% of men and women living in Nauru
are obese.

This is two times the proportion of overweight people in
developed countries.

Unhealthy

The levels of obesity and chronic weight-related diseases in
the Pacific has grown at an alarming rate, according to the
report, which was prepared for the triennial Commonwealth
health ministers meeting in New Zealand.

"This is placing a tremendous burden on the health and
well-being of individuals and communities and upon health care
workers," the report said.

Obesity is defined as an unhealthy amount of body fat.
According to the World Health Organisation, an obese person is
one whose body mass index, or weight in kilograms divided by
the square of one's height in metres, exceeds 30.

The report blames the trend on a move away from
traditional diets towards fattier, western-style foods and
a lack of exercise.

Cultural notions

"The prevention and treatment of obesity in the Pacific is
also made difficult by the traditional cultural notion that
'bigness' is a sign of wealth and power," the report said.

The amount of hours spent watching TV has a direct effect on
the obesity of children

Neville Rigby "It is not about being rich and well fed.
Obesity is most often related to poverty, low economic status,
exclusion from the health system," Mr Rigby said.

"In the Caribbean and many African countries [obesity] is
disregarded, ignored, neglected. It is just taken for granted
that a poor, middle- aged woman gets fat and then dies from
diabetes," he added.

Mr Rigby, who is attending the Commonwealth health ministers
meeting, said obesity rates in New Zealand were also rising at
an alarming rate.

New Zealanders fat

"New Zealand hasn't been spared the obesity epidemic," he
said. "Never in the history of the human race have so many
people been so fat."

In New Zealand, 15% of men and 19% of women are obese. But the
condition is worse among the country's Maori women - 27% of
whom are obese - and Pacific Island women, 47% are affected by
the condition.

He said childhood obesity was also on the rise around the
world because they were less active.

"The amount of hours spent watching TV has a direct effect on
the obesity of children," Mr Rigby said.

Various strategies were proposed for dealing obesity.

One was using taxes to encourage people to buy low-fat foods.

Others were making children walk or cycle to school and
limiting the size of portions served at take-away restaurants.

Who loves ya. Tom

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[Ironjustic]

On Aug 14, 11:00 am, <Hawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: no mention
of iron overweight.... <<

It is because you .. snipped it ..

Here it is again ..

Learn to .. read ..

"I suppose since ferritin / iron and levels of obesity are
linked then"

I asked you BEFORE to stay OFF .. my .. threads ..

You are too stupid .. to contribute ..

You have PROVEN your stupidity numerous times ..

AGAIN .. your stupidity .. shows ..

Who loves ya. Tom

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Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

>
> "ironjustice" <ironjust...@cashette.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187046114.303131.6280@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >I suppose since ferritin / iron and levels of obesity are
> >linked then this .. is another .. coincidence .. ?
>
> > Wednesday, 28 November, 2001, 16:23 GMT Pacific islanders
> > are world's fattest
>
> > Fattier foods and a lack of exercise are blamed
>
> > Pacific islanders, especially women, are the fattest
> > people in the world, according to latest figures published
> > by the International Obesity Taskforce.
>
> > t is not about being rich and well fed. Obesity is most
> > often related to poverty, low economic status, exclusion
> > from the health system
>
> > Neville Rigby International Obesity Taskforce "The Pacific
> > is the world's capital of obesity," said the taskforce's
> > director for public affairs, Neville Rigby said.
>
> > The figures show that 55% of Tongan women, 74% percent of
> > Samoan women and 77% of men and women living in Nauru are
> > obese.
>
> > This is two times the proportion of overweight people in
> > developed countries.
>
> > Unhealthy
>
> > The levels of obesity and chronic weight-related diseases
> > in the Pacific has grown at an alarming rate, according to
> > the report, which was prepared for the triennial
> > Commonwealth health ministers meeting in New Zealand.
>
> > "This is placing a tremendous burden on the health and
> > well-being of individuals and communities and upon health
> > care workers," the report said.
>
> > Obesity is defined as an unhealthy amount of body fat.
> > According to the World Health Organisation, an obese
> > person is one whose body mass index, or weight in
> > kilograms divided by the square of one's height in metres,
> > exceeds 30.
>
> > The report blames the trend on a move away from
> > traditional diets towards fattier, western-style foods and
> > a lack of exercise.
>
> > Cultural notions
>
> > "The prevention and treatment of obesity in the Pacific
> > is also made difficult by the traditional cultural
> > notion that 'bigness' is a sign of wealth and power,"
> > the report said.
>
> > The amount of hours spent watching TV has a direct effect
> > on the obesity of children
>
> > Neville Rigby "It is not about being rich and well fed.
> > Obesity is most often related to poverty, low economic
> > status, exclusion from the health system," Mr Rigby said.
>
> > "In the Caribbean and many African countries [obesity] is
> > disregarded, ignored, neglected. It is just taken for
> > granted that a poor, middle- aged woman gets fat and then
> > dies from diabetes," he added.
>
> > Mr Rigby, who is attending the Commonwealth health
> > ministers meeting, said obesity rates in New Zealand were
> > also rising at an alarming rate.
>
> > New Zealanders fat
>
> > "New Zealand hasn't been spared the obesity epidemic," he
> > said. "Never in the history of the human race have so many
> > people been so fat."
>
> > In New Zealand, 15% of men and 19% of women are obese. But
> > the condition is worse among the country's Maori women -
> > 27% of whom are obese - and Pacific Island women, 47% are
> > affected by the condition.
>
> > He said childhood obesity was also on the rise around the
> > world because they were less active.
>
> > "The amount of hours spent watching TV has a direct effect
> > on the obesity of children," Mr Rigby said.
>
> > Various strategies were proposed for dealing obesity.
>
> > One was using taxes to encourage people to buy low-fat
> > foods.
>
> > Others were making children walk or cycle to school and
> > limiting the size of portions served at take-away
> > restaurants.
>
> > Who loves ya. Tom
>
> > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
>
> > Man Is A Herbivore!
> > http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
>
> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk- Hide quoted
> > text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Ironjustic]

>> On Aug 14, 11:01 am, <Hawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: no
>> mention of iron..=
.only overweight we all know the risks of overweight <<

I asked you BEFORE to stay OFF .. my .. threads ..

You are too stupid .. to contribute ..

You have PROVEN your stupidity numerous times ..

Who loves ya. Tom

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Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

> no mention of iron...only overweight
>
> we all know the risks of overweight
>
> "ironjustice" <ironjust...@cashette.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187044901.586858.287540@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >>> On Aug 13, 3:32 pm, ironjustice
> >>> <ironjust...@cashette.com> wrote: WHAT diseases ARE
> >>> found in .. Asian / Pacific Islanders .. ? <<
>
> > Hmmm .. soooo .. found to have the highest iron .. AND ..
> > the highest diabetes .. ?
>
> > Just another coincidence or just more .. evidence to
> > support the present ongoing clinical iron depletion ..
> > trial.
>
> > National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney
> > Diseases (NIDDK)
>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > --------------=
----=AD-----
> > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Wednesday, September 29, 2004
>
> > E-mail this page Subscribe CONTACT: TaWanna Berry NIDDK
> > Press Office 301-496-3583
>
> > Millions of Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders at
> > Increased Risk for Type 2 Diabetes New Awareness Campaign
> > Uses Generational Appeal to Help Reverse Diabetes Risk
>
> > San Diego - About 40 percent of adults ages 40 to 74 - or
> > 41 million people - have pre-diabetes, a condition that
> > raises a person's risk for developing type 2 diabetes,
> > heart disease, and stroke. Studies show that Asian
> > Americans and Pacific Islanders who are overweight are at
> > increased risk for type 2 diabetes, and some groups,
> > including Native Hawaiians, Filipinos, and Japanese
> > Americans living in Hawaii, are twice as likely to have
> > diabetes as white residents of similar age.
>
> > To respond to this serious health threat, the U.S.
> > Department of Health and Human Services' (HHS) National
> > Diabetes Education Program (NDEP) launched a public
> > awareness campaign today called "Two Reasons I Find Time
> > to Prevent Diabetes...My Future and Theirs" at the
> > Paradise Valley Hospital in National City, a San Diego
> > suburb. The campaign delivers the message that type 2
> > diabetes can be prevented or delayed with modest weight
> > loss by getting regular physical activity and making
> > healthy food choices.
>
> > "Two Reasons I Find Time to Prevent Diabetes" is part of
> > NDEP's Small Steps. Big Rewards. Prevent type 2 Diabetes
> > campaign that targets groups at high risk for diabetes by
> > promoting the importance of losing a small amount of
> > weight. Tailored specifically for Asian Americans and
> > Pacific Islanders, "Two Reasons" speaks to the strong
> > intergenerational family ties in Asian American and
> > Pacific Islander communities and encourages people at risk
> > to make lifestyle changes now so they can live a long and
> > healthy life and enjoy their loved ones in the future.
>
> > "We are asking Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders to
> > find out if they are at risk for type 2 diabetes, and
> > we're showing them how to take action to prevent it," said
> > HHS Secretary Tommy G. Thompson. "Asian Americans may not
> > realize that the weight they think is healthy is putting
> > them at risk for diabetes. That's why the Small Steps
> > campaign is so important."
>
> > Nina Agbayani, Director of Programs for the Association of
> > Asian Pacific Community Health Organizations (AAPCHO),
> > discussed her organization's involvement with the
> > campaign. "Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders do not
> > have to suffer from diabetes and its complications," said
> > Ms. Agbayani. "Working with our member organizations and
> > clinics across the United States, we will get the word out
> > that preventing type 2 diabetes is proven, possible, and
> > powerful," she said. AAPCHO is dedicated to improving the
> > health status and access to health care of Asian
> > Americans, Native Hawaiians, and Pacific Islanders in the
> > United States.
>
> > "This partnership of community-based health programs and a
> > national public awareness campaign is a prescription for
> > making real inroads in stemming the diabetes epidemic,"
> > said Dr. James R. Gavin III, Chair of the NDEP and
> > President of the Morehouse School of Medicine.
>
> > San Diego native Carmencita Domingo participated in the
> > campaign launch as a member of NDEP's Small Steps. Big
> > Rewards. Team to Prevent type 2 Diabetes. This group of
> > committed citizens was assembled by NDEP to put a human
> > face on the populations that are at high risk for the
> > disease. Each member is actively working in his or her
> > community to demonstrate lifestyle changes they have made
> > to prevent or delay diabetes. Ms. Domingo sets an example
> > as activity director at the Hope Adult Day Health Care
> > Center in the San Diego area.
>
> > "I adopted a healthy lifestyle and made the commitment to
> > inform my family and friends about the freedoms it can
> > bring - freedom from daily injections of insulin, freedom
> > from blindness, and freedom from amputation," said Ms.
> > Domingo. "My older relatives have diabetes, so I'm working
> > hard to break the cycle of this devastating disease in
> > future generations. I want to be around for my
> > grandchildren and great grandchildren," she said.
>
> > The "Two Reasons" campaign includes radio and print public
> > service ads, tip sheets, and posters produced in English,
> > Chinese, Cambodian, Hmong, Korean, Tagalog (for
> > Filipinos), Thai, and Vietnamese. Materials in eight
> > additional languages will be released later this year.
> > Hundreds of public and private partners will help
> > distribute the materials throughout the Asian American and
> > Pacific Islander community. Materials are also available
> > on the NDEP website at www.ndep.nih.gov.
>
> > For more information about the diabetes prevention
> > campaign, free materials, tip sheets, and the GAMEPLAN for
> > Preventing type 2 Diabetes, which contains tools to help
> > people lose weight, get active, and track their progress,
> > visit the NDEP website atwww.ndep.nih.gov or call
> > 1-800-438-5383.
>
> > The National Diabetes Education Program, co-sponsored by
> > the National Institutes of Health and the Centers for
> > Disease Control and Prevention, is a leading federal
> > source of information about diabetes control and
> > prevention. The NDEP has more than 200 partner
> > organizations that form a network to reach the health care
> > community and those affected by and at risk for diabetes
> > at the national, state, and local levels.
>
> > Paradise Valley Hospital is a 301-bed, acute care,
> > non-profit hospital providing numerous programs and
> > services to meet the changing needs of the San Diego
> > community. Committed to disease prevention, the hospital's
> > lifestyle change programs focus on weight reduction and
> > stress management. Paradise Valley is currently
> > celebrating its centennial anniversary.
>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > --------------=
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>
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>
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>
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>
> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk- Hide quoted
> > text -
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> - Show quoted text -

[Hawki63]

no mention of iron...only overweight

we all know the risks of overweight

"ironjustice" <ironjustice@cashette.com> wrote in message
news:1187044901.586858.287540@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Aug 13, 3:32 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...@cashette.com>
>>> wrote: WHAT diseases ARE found in .. Asian / Pacific
>>> Islanders .. ? <<
>
> Hmmm .. soooo .. found to have the highest iron .. AND ..
> the highest diabetes .. ?
>
> Just another coincidence or just more .. evidence to support
> the present ongoing clinical iron depletion .. trial.
>
> National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney
> Diseases (NIDDK)
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------------------
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Wednesday, September 29, 2004
>
> E-mail this page Subscribe CONTACT: TaWanna Berry NIDDK
> Press Office 301-496-3583
>
>
> Millions of Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders at
> Increased Risk for Type 2 Diabetes New Awareness Campaign
> Uses Generational Appeal to Help Reverse Diabetes Risk
>
> San Diego - About 40 percent of adults ages 40 to 74 - or 41
> million people - have pre-diabetes, a condition that raises
> a person's risk for developing type 2 diabetes, heart
> disease, and stroke. Studies show that Asian Americans and
> Pacific Islanders who are overweight are at increased risk
> for type 2 diabetes, and some groups, including Native
> Hawaiians, Filipinos, and Japanese Americans living in
> Hawaii, are twice as likely to have diabetes as white
> residents of similar age.
>
> To respond to this serious health threat, the U.S.
> Department of Health and Human Services' (HHS) National
> Diabetes Education Program (NDEP) launched a public
> awareness campaign today called "Two Reasons I Find Time to
> Prevent Diabetes...My Future and Theirs" at the Paradise
> Valley Hospital in National City, a San Diego suburb. The
> campaign delivers the message that type 2 diabetes can be
> prevented or delayed with modest weight loss by getting
> regular physical activity and making healthy food choices.
>
> "Two Reasons I Find Time to Prevent Diabetes" is part of
> NDEP's Small Steps. Big Rewards. Prevent type 2 Diabetes
> campaign that targets groups at high risk for diabetes by
> promoting the importance of losing a small amount of weight.
> Tailored specifically for Asian Americans and Pacific
> Islanders, "Two Reasons" speaks to the strong
> intergenerational family ties in Asian American and Pacific
> Islander communities and encourages people at risk to make
> lifestyle changes now so they can live a long and healthy
> life and enjoy their loved ones in the future.
>
> "We are asking Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders to find
> out if they are at risk for type 2 diabetes, and we're
> showing them how to take action to prevent it," said HHS
> Secretary Tommy G. Thompson. "Asian Americans may not
> realize that the weight they think is healthy is putting
> them at risk for diabetes. That's why the Small Steps
> campaign is so important."
>
> Nina Agbayani, Director of Programs for the Association of
> Asian Pacific Community Health Organizations (AAPCHO),
> discussed her organization's involvement with the campaign.
> "Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders do not have to suffer
> from diabetes and its complications," said Ms. Agbayani.
> "Working with our member organizations and clinics across
> the United States, we will get the word out that preventing
> type 2 diabetes is proven, possible, and powerful," she
> said. AAPCHO is dedicated to improving the health status and
> access to health care of Asian Americans, Native Hawaiians,
> and Pacific Islanders in the United States.
>
> "This partnership of community-based health programs and a
> national public awareness campaign is a prescription for
> making real inroads in stemming the diabetes epidemic," said
> Dr. James R. Gavin III, Chair of the NDEP and President of
> the Morehouse School of Medicine.
>
> San Diego native Carmencita Domingo participated in the
> campaign launch as a member of NDEP's Small Steps. Big
> Rewards. Team to Prevent type 2 Diabetes. This group of
> committed citizens was assembled by NDEP to put a human face
> on the populations that are at high risk for the disease.
> Each member is actively working in his or her community to
> demonstrate lifestyle changes they have made to prevent or
> delay diabetes. Ms. Domingo sets an example as activity
> director at the Hope Adult Day Health Care Center in the San
> Diego area.
>
> "I adopted a healthy lifestyle and made the commitment to
> inform my family and friends about the freedoms it can bring
> - freedom from daily injections of insulin, freedom from
> blindness, and freedom from amputation," said Ms. Domingo.
> "My older relatives have diabetes, so I'm working hard to
> break the cycle of this devastating disease in future
> generations. I want to be around for my grandchildren and
> great grandchildren," she said.
>
> The "Two Reasons" campaign includes radio and print public
> service ads, tip sheets, and posters produced in English,
> Chinese, Cambodian, Hmong, Korean, Tagalog (for Filipinos),
> Thai, and Vietnamese. Materials in eight additional
> languages will be released later this year. Hundreds of
> public and private partners will help distribute the
> materials throughout the Asian American and Pacific Islander
> community. Materials are also available on the NDEP website
> at www.ndep.nih.gov.
>
> For more information about the diabetes prevention campaign,
> free materials, tip sheets, and the GAMEPLAN for Preventing
> type 2 Diabetes, which contains tools to help people lose
> weight, get active, and track their progress, visit the NDEP
> website at www.ndep.nih.gov or call 1-800-438-5383.
>
> The National Diabetes Education Program, co-sponsored by
> the National Institutes of Health and the Centers for
> Disease Control and Prevention, is a leading federal source
> of information about diabetes control and prevention. The
> NDEP has more than 200 partner organizations that form a
> network to reach the health care community and those
> affected by and at risk for diabetes at the national,
> state, and local levels.
>
> Paradise Valley Hospital is a 301-bed, acute care,
> non-profit hospital providing numerous programs and services
> to meet the changing needs of the San Diego community.
> Committed to disease prevention, the hospital's lifestyle
> change programs focus on weight reduction and stress
> management. Paradise Valley is currently celebrating its
> centennial anniversary.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------------------
>
>
> Who loves ya. Tom
>
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
>
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
>
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

[Hawki63]

no mention of iron

overweight....

"ironjustice" <ironjustice@cashette.com> wrote in message
news:1187046114.303131.6280@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>I suppose since ferritin / iron and levels of obesity are
>linked then this .. is another .. coincidence .. ?
>
> Wednesday, 28 November, 2001, 16:23 GMT Pacific islanders
> are world's fattest
>
>
> Fattier foods and a lack of exercise are blamed
>
> Pacific islanders, especially women, are the fattest people
> in the world, according to latest figures published by the
> International Obesity Taskforce.
>
>
> t is not about being rich and well fed. Obesity is most
> often related to poverty, low economic status, exclusion
> from the health system
>
> Neville Rigby International Obesity Taskforce "The Pacific
> is the world's capital of obesity," said the taskforce's
> director for public affairs, Neville Rigby said.
>
> The figures show that 55% of Tongan women, 74% percent
> of Samoan women and 77% of men and women living in Nauru
> are obese.
>
> This is two times the proportion of overweight people in
> developed countries.
>
> Unhealthy
>
> The levels of obesity and chronic weight-related diseases in
> the Pacific has grown at an alarming rate, according to the
> report, which was prepared for the triennial Commonwealth
> health ministers meeting in New Zealand.
>
> "This is placing a tremendous burden on the health and
> well-being of individuals and communities and upon health
> care workers," the report said.
>
> Obesity is defined as an unhealthy amount of body fat.
> According to the World Health Organisation, an obese person
> is one whose body mass index, or weight in kilograms divided
> by the square of one's height in metres, exceeds 30.
>
> The report blames the trend on a move away from traditional
> diets towards fattier, western-style foods and a lack of
> exercise.
>
> Cultural notions
>
> "The prevention and treatment of obesity in the Pacific is
> also made difficult by the traditional cultural notion that
> 'bigness' is a sign of wealth and power," the report said.
>
>
>
> The amount of hours spent watching TV has a direct effect on
> the obesity of children
>
> Neville Rigby "It is not about being rich and well fed.
> Obesity is most often related to poverty, low economic
> status, exclusion from the health system," Mr Rigby said.
>
> "In the Caribbean and many African countries [obesity] is
> disregarded, ignored, neglected. It is just taken for
> granted that a poor, middle- aged woman gets fat and then
> dies from diabetes," he added.
>
> Mr Rigby, who is attending the Commonwealth health ministers
> meeting, said obesity rates in New Zealand were also rising
> at an alarming rate.
>
> New Zealanders fat
>
> "New Zealand hasn't been spared the obesity epidemic," he
> said. "Never in the history of the human race have so many
> people been so fat."
>
> In New Zealand, 15% of men and 19% of women are obese. But
> the condition is worse among the country's Maori women - 27%
> of whom are obese - and Pacific Island women, 47% are
> affected by the condition.
>
> He said childhood obesity was also on the rise around the
> world because they were less active.
>
> "The amount of hours spent watching TV has a direct effect
> on the obesity of children," Mr Rigby said.
>
> Various strategies were proposed for dealing obesity.
>
> One was using taxes to encourage people to buy low-fat
> foods.
>
> Others were making children walk or cycle to school and
> limiting the size of portions served at take-away
> restaurants.
>
>
> Who loves ya. Tom
>
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
>
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
>
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>

[Hawki63]

in this article...no mention of iron and diabetes

it was as usual...your idea of cut and paste...and assuming if
A=B....then C will always egual A

Or B....

sorry...numnuts...science just just not work that way.....A
and B are independent variables

plus...don't EVER tell me...or any other intelligent person to
stay off "your threads".....until you own the INternet....than
...you can happily talk to yourself...which is pretty much
what you do anyway

"intelligent folks" encourage discussion...pro and
con...simpletons like you simply cut and paste

pr@cashette.com> wrote in message
news:1187046114.303131.6280@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>I suppose since ferritin / iron and levels of obesity are
>linked then this .. is another .. coincidence .. ?
>
> Wednesday, 28 November, 2001, 16:23 GMT Pacific islanders
> are world's fattest
>
>
> Fattier foods and a lack of exercise are blamed
>
> Pacific islanders, especially women, are the fattest people
> in the world, according to latest figures published by the
> International Obesity Taskforce.
>
>
> t is not about being rich and well fed. Obesity is most
> often related to poverty, low economic status, exclusion
> from the health system
>
> Neville Rigby International Obesity Taskforce "The Pacific
> is the world's capital of obesity," said the taskforce's
> director for public affairs, Neville Rigby said.
>
> The figures show that 55% of Tongan women, 74% percent
> of Samoan women and 77% of men and women living in Nauru
> are obese.
>
> This is two times the proportion of overweight people in
> developed countries.
>
> Unhealthy
>
> The levels of obesity and chronic weight-related diseases in
> the Pacific has grown at an alarming rate, according to the
> report, which was prepared for the triennial Commonwealth
> health ministers meeting in New Zealand.
>
> "This is placing a tremendous burden on the health and
> well-being of individuals and communities and upon health
> care workers," the report said.
>
> Obesity is defined as an unhealthy amount of body fat.
> According to the World Health Organisation, an obese person
> is one whose body mass index, or weight in kilograms divided
> by the square of one's height in metres, exceeds 30.
>
> The report blames the trend on a move away from traditional
> diets towards fattier, western-style foods and a lack of
> exercise.
>
> Cultural notions
>
> "The prevention and treatment of obesity in the Pacific is
> also made difficult by the traditional cultural notion that
> 'bigness' is a sign of wealth and power," the report said.
>
>
>
> The amount of hours spent watching TV has a direct effect on
> the obesity of children
>
> Neville Rigby "It is not about being rich and well fed.
> Obesity is most often related to poverty, low economic
> status, exclusion from the health system," Mr Rigby said.
>
> "In the Caribbean and many African countries [obesity] is
> disregarded, ignored, neglected. It is just taken for
> granted that a poor, middle- aged woman gets fat and then
> dies from diabetes," he added.
>
> Mr Rigby, who is attending the Commonwealth health ministers
> meeting, said obesity rates in New Zealand were also rising
> at an alarming rate.
>
> New Zealanders fat
>
> "New Zealand hasn't been spared the obesity epidemic," he
> said. "Never in the history of the human race have so many
> people been so fat."
>
> In New Zealand, 15% of men and 19% of women are obese. But
> the condition is worse among the country's Maori women - 27%
> of whom are obese - and Pacific Island women, 47% are
> affected by the condition.
>
> He said childhood obesity was also on the rise around the
> world because they were less active.
>
> "The amount of hours spent watching TV has a direct effect
> on the obesity of children," Mr Rigby said.
>
> Various strategies were proposed for dealing obesity.
>
> One was using taxes to encourage people to buy low-fat
> foods.
>
> Others were making children walk or cycle to school and
> limiting the size of portions served at take-away
> restaurants.
>
>
> Who loves ya. Tom
>
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
>
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
>
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>

[Ironjustic]

On Aug 14, 2:46 pm, <Hawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
sorry...numnuts...science just just not work that way.....A
and B are independent variables <<

Let me use language a ..nurse .. would understand ..

The thread is .. "iron high iron IN Asians and Pacific
Islanders" .. ALL Asians and Pacific Islanders ..

Now YOU say .. "no mention of iron" ..

Now .. you EXPECT to be taken .. seriously ..

You INTEND on disruption .. disrupting .. this .. thread ..

THAT is your .. intent ..

You are an ass ..

You have acted like an ass TOO MANY TIMES on .. my .. threads.

You may think I am here because I am enjoying myself ..

But you are wrong ..

I am here to bring OUT .. the cause of disease ..

Mother , daughter , son , cousin, uncle , aunt, grandmother ,
grandfather .. KILLING and maiming .. **disease** ..

YOU try to .. disrupt .. that ..

I .. am .. **supposed** to .. sit back .. WHILE you ..
**purposely** attempt to .. **KILL** .. mothers , daughters
, sons , cousins, uncles , aunts, grandmothers ,
grandfathers .. ?

Yeah .. right ..

>> plus...don't EVER tell me...or any other intelligent person
>> to stay off
"your threads".....<<

**intelligent** .. person is the .. **KEY** word .. here ..

YOU .. don't FIT .. that .. description ..

You have SHOWN .. your stupidity .. numerous times .. and I
find it very .. funny .. that YOU would even .. assume to BE
.. intelligent ..

Levity .. it IS .. something to BE .. desired .. at times ..

But in the medical newgroups .. there is very LITTLE .. funny
.. and remember this .. NONE .. of MY .. posts are .. funny.

Take your stupidity .. somewhere .. else ..

How about that .. was THAT .. to the point enough for .. ya ..
?

I asked you BEFORE to stay OFF .. my .. threads ..

IA:<<snip>> You are too stupid .. to contribute ..

You have PROVEN your stupidity numerous times .. <<snip>>

Who loves ya. Tom

Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com

Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

[Ironjustic]

>> On Aug 14, 2:46 pm, <Hawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
in this article...no mention of iron and diabetes

it was as usual...your idea of cut and paste...and assuming
if A=B....then C will always egual A Or B.... <<

Iron in Asians and Pacific Islanders

OK .. stupid .. the thread IS .. "Iron in Asians and Pacific
Islanders" ..

THAT is .. known .. **KNOWN** ..

Seems you DON'T .. know .. that .. EVEN THOUGH the whole
thread is ABOUT .. Iron in Asians and Pacific Islanders ..

Now since you don't KNOW .. that the whole thread IS about ..
Iron in Asians and Pacific Islanders .. makes you ..
**stupid** ..

Now do you KNOW how stupidity .. works .. ?

It really isn't .. useful ..

Therefore .. as I previously .. stated ..

I asked you BEFORE to stay OFF .. my .. threads ..

You are too stupid .. to contribute ..

You have PROVEN your stupidity numerous times ..

AGAIN .. your stupidity .. shows ..

Who loves ya. Tom

Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com

Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

[Hawki63]

"ironjustice" <teamtanner@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187140611.084423.177580@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 14, 2:46 pm, <Hawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> sorry...numnuts...science just just not work that way.....A
> and B are independent variables <<

you obviously don't understand variables......
>
> Let me use language a ..nurse .. would understand ..

as opposed to YOU...how laughable numnuts

I am the one with a master's degree and a professional
license...

you have only a cut a paste ability...rarely do you even read
what you post

and very many times you wouldn't understand it IF you
did read it

>
> The thread is .. "iron high iron IN Asians and Pacific
> Islanders" .. ALL Asians and Pacific Islanders ..
>
> Now YOU say .. "no mention of iron" ..

in the following two articles...there was indeed NO mention
of iron....

> Now .. you EXPECT to be taken .. seriously ..

yep I do...you...no one takes seriously...you are the
laughing stock

>
> You INTEND on disruption .. disrupting .. this .. thread ..
>
> THAT is your .. intent ..
>
> You are an ass ..
>
> You have acted like an ass TOO MANY TIMES on .. my ..
> threads.

uhhh./...tom boy...you do not have threads...
>
> You may think I am here because I am enjoying myself ..

well if you aren't WHY are you subjecting the rest of us to
your cut and paste routine?? we learned that skill in
kindergarten...
>
> But you are wrong ..
>
> I am here to bring OUT .. the cause of disease ..

you are here for no such reason...you are here to demonstrate
again and again...how much you do not know about
science...medicine and esp statistics
>
> Mother , daughter , son , cousin, uncle , aunt, grandmother
> , grandfather .. KILLING and maiming .. **disease** ..
>
> YOU try to .. disrupt .. that ..
>
> I .. am .. **supposed** to .. sit back .. WHILE you ..
> **purposely** attempt to .. **KILL** .. mothers ,
> daughters , sons , cousins, uncles , aunts, grandmothers
> , grandfathers .. ?
>
> Yeah .. right ..
>
>>> plus...don't EVER tell me...or any other intelligent
>>> person to stay off
> "your threads".....<<
>
> **intelligent** .. person is the .. **KEY** word .. here ..
>
> YOU .. don't FIT .. that .. description ..

and YOUR crendentials are?? oh right...none

>
> You have SHOWN .. your stupidity .. numerous times .. and I
> find it very .. funny .. that YOU would even .. assume to BE
> .. intelligent ..
>
> Levity .. it IS .. something to BE .. desired .. at times ..
>
> But in the medical newgroups .. there is very LITTLE ..
> funny .. and remember this .. NONE .. of MY .. posts are
> .. funny.
>
> Take your stupidity .. somewhere .. else ..

you first

>
> How about that .. was THAT .. to the point enough for
> .. ya .. ?
>
> I asked you BEFORE to stay OFF .. my .. threads ..
>
> IE:<<snip>> You are too stupid .. to contribute ..
>
>
> You have PROVEN your stupidity numerous times .. <<snip>>
>
> Who loves ya. Tom
>
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
>
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
>
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

[Manky Badg]

"ironjustice" <teamtanner@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187140611.084423.177580@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

> But in the medical newgroups .. there is very LITTLE ..
> funny .. and remember this .. NONE .. of MY .. posts are
> .. funny.

Sorry - I couldn't resist this one.