OMG, These Guys Use Steroids!!!

[Prisoner A]

So I had one of the gym staff take pictures of me for
before-and-after shots, now that I'm getting serious about
this bodybuilding/ weightlifting stuff...the guy's asking me
whether I take steroids, and I'm like, what??? Then he tells
me about these two guys in the gym who take steroids, and I'm
like, holy shit! What's incredible to me is that these two
guys ain't all that! They are definitely in shape and all, you
definitely can tell they're athletes, but the thing is,
they're no bodybuidling magazine models either...one of 'em
had messed up his leg with an injection years ago, and the
other had some kind of allergic reaction this past Friday that
resulted in a misshapen right delt!

So now I'm starting to look down on steroid users...I already
had a bad opinion of them through this newsgroup, but now that
I've actually met some (one of them even publicly acknowledges
his steroid use; he was showing people his misshapen delt,
though I missed it and only heard about it later), I'm like,
geez, they go through all that trouble and they look like
they're at my level of physique! Frankly, they look "natural"
to me -- which is why I'm so shocked -- and not "freaky" at
all...which makes me wonder about all those "natural"
competitors, now, who look like smaller versions of the
druggies...!

Indeed, now I'm wondering about all those big
superhero-looking Army Rangers I knew (Pat Tillman-looking
dudes, tall and big despite being always tired and hungry,
which is the lot of an infantryman when not in
garrison)...were all those guys on steroids too?? 'Cause I
look the way I look doing simple basic calisthenics, and I was
always wondering how come those guys are so big doing the same
push-ups and pull-ups I do....

I don't want to start getting a superiority complex here, but,
unless it's a black guy, I'm suspicious that all these people
with cannonball delts are just druggies!

[Cmcnama2@N]

Just stay away from steroids (they're not good for you). The
more you lift and the stronger you get, the more people will
start approaching you about steroids and stuff. I was 15 or 16
the first time it happened to me and it scared the hell out of
me that people were selling steroids in a gym I was using, but
I guess thats just life. I have an article about steroids on
my site (and on my blog) which might help explain some of the
bad affects of steroids to you (but you seem like you want to
stay away from them anyways which is a good thing :))

--
http://weight-lifting-fitness.blogspot.com/
http://www.theweightliftingbible.com

[Prisoner A]

On Aug 13, 11:29 pm, "cmcna...@nd.edu" <cmcna...@nd.edu>
wrote:
> Just stay away from steroids (they're not good for you). The
> more you lift and the stronger you get, the more people will
> start approaching you about steroids and stuff. I was 15 or
> 16 the first time it happened to me and it scared the hell
> out of me that people were selling steroids in a gym I was
> using, but I guess thats just life. I have an article about
> steroids on my site (and on my blog) which might help
> explain some of the bad affects of steroids to you (but you
> seem like you want to stay away from them anyways which is a
> good thing :))
>
> --http://weight-lifting-fitness.blogspot.com/http://www.the-
> weightliftingbible.com

At first I was flattered that folks ask me whether I'm on
steroids, but now it's rather annoying, because I didn't even
hear about them until only five years ago even though I've
been athletic all my life (I'm 35). It sucks because I work
hard for what I have and I hate to be lumped in with the
cheaters. No big deal, but because steroids are so in the news
people seem to just assume everyone is on them; I never used
to get those comments before.

It's weird, but now that I myself am becoming more and more
aware of them, I also find myself thinking that some big dude
might be on steroids, and that sucks...kinda like finding out
a girl has fake titties...I'd rather not dismiss my fellow
gym rats that way, but with these two dudes at least I've
lost half my respect...they still work out, of course, but
how much is due to drugs and how much their own hard work?
Just can't tell anymore. And, I say again, what's really
shocking is how "normal" they look...big dudes for sure, but
not "competition big" (or so I imagine)...really very normal:
in my league, actually!

[Hard Bop D]

<cmcnama2@nd.edu> wrote in message
news:1187062151.571697.274860@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Just stay away from steroids (they're not good for you). The
> more you lift and the stronger you get, the more people will
> start approaching you about steroids and stuff. I was 15 or
> 16 the first time it happened to me and it scared the hell
> out of me that people were selling steroids in a gym I was
> using, but I guess thats just life. I have an article about
> steroids on my site (and on my blog) which might help
> explain some of the bad affects of steroids to you (but you
> seem like you want to stay away from them anyways which is a
> good thing :))
>

Fuck you SPAMMER. You don't know a fucking thing about
anabolic steroids, so why comment? Go back to ass fucking
little boys.

--
Robert Schuh "Everything that elevates an individual above the
herd and intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil;
and the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality, the
mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

[Ric]

http://www.thelocal.se/8168/20070813/

Man arrested for having big muscles

Published: 13th August 2007 08:30 CET Online:
http://www.thelocal.se/8168/

A well-built man was forced to take a drugs test in Stockholm
recently after a police officer assumed that muscles like his
could only have been developed with the help of illegal
substances.

The female assistant police officer got into a conversation
with Tomislav Boduljak and his friend late at night in central
Stockholm. Related Articles

According to Boduljak, 27, the police officer was pleasant at
first, but changed her attitude when he said he worked out.
Saying his muscles were 'abnormal', she said he must have
used drugs.

"I asked if she didn't think it possible that I work out a lot
and eat well. She said that if someone looks like me, she
assumes they have taken drugs," he told Metro.

Despite Boduljak's assurances that he didn't use steroids, she
forced him to go to the police station and give a urine test.
In her report, the officer said he had "unusually large
muscles, particularly large arm muscles, which are a sign of
steroid use."

The test was negative, and Boduljak made an official complaint
against the police officer. Prosecutors looked into the case,
but decided not to pursue it.

Janne Magnusson, an officer at Stockholm Police's drugs unit,
told Metro that he thought that the officer had been "a bit
too ambitious".

[Al]

"Ric" <> Despite Boduljak's assurances that he didn't use
steroids, she forced him to go to the police station and give
a urine test. In her report, the officer said he had
"unusually large muscles, particularly large arm muscles,
which are a sign of steroid use." The test was negative, and
Boduljak made an official complaint against the police
officer. Prosecutors looked into the case, but decided not to
pursue it.
>

He used masking agents. She should have tasered his nuts and
tossed him onto the railroad tracks, but then he was probably
too heavy.

[Hard Bop D]

Ric" <rtdpowersports@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:aqn4c31sqndf8rs2k8c49oinslv2hufi99@4ax.com...
> http://www.thelocal.se/8168/20070813/
>
> Man arrested for having big muscles
>
> Published: 13th August 2007 08:30 CET Online:
> http://www.thelocal.se/8168/
>
> A well-built man was forced to take a drugs test in
> Stockholm recently after a police officer assumed that
> muscles like his could only have been developed with the
> help of illegal substances.
>
> The female assistant police officer got into a conversation
> with Tomislav Boduljak and his friend late at night in
> central Stockholm. Related Articles
>
>
> According to Boduljak, 27, the police officer was pleasant
> at first, but changed her attitude when he said he worked
> out. Saying his muscles were 'abnormal', she said he must
> have used drugs.
>
> "I asked if she didn't think it possible that I work out a
> lot and eat well. She said that if someone looks like me,
> she assumes they have taken drugs," he told Metro.
>
> Despite Boduljak's assurances that he didn't use steroids,
> she forced him to go to the police station and give a urine
> test. In her report, the officer said he had "unusually
> large muscles, particularly large arm muscles, which are a
> sign of steroid use."
>
> The test was negative, and Boduljak made an official
> complaint against the police officer. Prosecutors looked
> into the case, but decided not to pursue it.
>
> Janne Magnusson, an officer at Stockholm Police's drugs
> unit, told Metro that he thought that the officer had been
> "a bit too ambitious".
>
>

If this is a true story, then Sweden is more of a fucked
police state than the US. Any officer of the law who is
worried about anabolic steroids needs to be shot.

--
Robert Schuh "Everything that elevates an individual above the
herd and intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil;
and the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality, the
mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

[Tom Anders]

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Hard Bop Drums wrote:

> Ric" <rtdpowersports@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:aqn4c31sqndf8rs2k8c49oinslv2hufi99@4ax.com...
>
>> Man arrested for having big muscles
>
> If this is a true story, then Sweden is more of a fucked
> police state than the US.

Debatable. But i think the UK has both of them beat anyway. We
should have some kind of international police state contest.

> Any officer of the law who is worried about anabolic
> steroids needs to be shot.

A solidly American response!

tom

--
Kevin was inspired as an actor by Super Engineer A.K.A
Wondergirl T-rav Camelang -- Wikipedia, on Kevin Bacon

[Prisoner A]

On Aug 14, 10:23 pm, "AL" <alfredogar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> He used masking agents. She should have tasered his nuts and
> tossed him onto the railroad tracks, but then he was
> probably too heavy.

I'm still wondering how she "forced" him to go to the police
station! I guess his muscles weren't that big after all -- she
would have forced him home to her bed! (A lot of women are
turned on by big arms, but IME they had always been the
voluptuous kind of girls, BBWs -- real BBWs, not mere fatties,
like how Tyra Banks is now a BBW).

[Dz]

Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
> Debatable. But i think the UK has both of them beat anyway.
> We should have some kind of international police state
> contest.

I was stopped, but not arrested, one time back in USSR, for
having a "bodybuilder" look. The officer went, "Hey pumped-up,
come here!" My bag was searched for anabolic drugs, which I
never used. I had a pack of multivitamins with me though,
because I led a somewhat nomadic life at the time. The officer
still expressed disapproval but let me go. I think that
bodybuilding was considered a bourgeois or maybe dissident
activity, and there was a popular belief that those big
muscles are all fluff, developed by doing lots of repetitions
with very small weights.

Of course, the hard-core kettlebell people still think so :-)

[Weakestlin]

> Fuck you SPAMMER. You don't know a fucking thing about
> anabolic steroids, so why comment? Go back to ass fucking
> little boys.

How does relating personal experience that is similar to what
another made a post about spamming? If you've ever even been
to a gym, you know how available steroids are. I think its
even worse that they are easily available to underage people
too, but for some reason being AGAINST the use of steroids
automatically make me a spammer. Even if there weren't medical
side affects, I'd still be against there use. But you seem to
want to cheat yourself through life and flame anyone who says
different, so enjoy you false strength while while you can
(until your premature death)...good choice :)

--
http://weight-lifting-fitness.blogspot.com
http://www.theweightliftingbible.com

[David Cohe]

JMW <jmwilli...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
> DZ wrote:
> >Tom Anderson <t...@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
> >> Debatable. But i think the UK has both of them beat
> >> anyway. We should have some kind of international police
> >> state contest.
>
> >I was stopped, but not arrested, one time back in USSR, for
> >having a "bodybuilder" look. The officer went, "Hey
> >pumped-up, come here!" My bag was searched for anabolic
> >drugs, which I never used. I had a pack of multivitamins
> >with me though, because I led a somewhat nomadic life at
> >the time. The officer still expressed disapproval but let
> >me go. I think that bodybuilding was considered a bourgeois
> >or maybe dissident activity, and there was a popular belief
> >that those big muscles are all fluff, developed by doing
> >lots of repetitions with very small weights.
>
> <heh> ... wait for it ...
>
> >Of course, the hard-core kettlebell people still
> >think so :-)
>
> ... and there it is!

Kettlebellers are stoopid. Everybody knows that it's Pilates
that develops long, lean, functional muscles.

David

[Curt]

"AL" wrote:
> "weakestlink33" <If you've ever even been to a gym, you know
> how available steroids are. I think its even worse that they
> are easily available to underage people too,>
>
> You have to keep in mind that Robert Shoe is a guy who was
> an avid steroid abuser and who destroyed his life and his
> health so that he could place third in a couple of
> bodybuilding contests and he won Mr. Santa Monica Auto Parts
> of 1988.
>
> Meanwhile, he ended up on dialysis and needed a kidney
> transplant and has had surgery for all kinds of tumors and
> other bizarre medical problems that he denies had any
> connection to his steroid abuse.

[X] Not his real name
[Y] No doctor's report
[Z] Misspelled Schuh's last name
[Z] Incorrect listing of Robert's bodybuilding
title/championship
[Z] Possible mischaracterization of the term "bizarre"

AL, please cease and desist in your terrorizing of one
Robert Schuh.

The MFW "Legends" are dropping like flies and the loss of
another just might spell disaster for all concerned. Tia.

--
Curt

[Al]

"weakestlink33" <If you've ever even been to a gym, you know
how available steroids are. I think its even worse that they
are easily available to underage people too,>

You have to keep in mind that Robert Shoe is a guy who was an
avid steroid abuser and who destroyed his life and his health
so that he could place third in a couple of bodybuilding
contests and he won Mr. Santa Monica Auto Parts of 1988.

Meanwhile, he ended up on dialysis and needed a kidney
transplant and has had surgery for all kinds of tumors and
other bizarre medical problems that he denies had any
connection to his steroid abuse.

[Jmw]

DZ <15290@252229158.25878421.27725.1239.5076> wrote:
>Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
>> Debatable. But i think the UK has both of them beat anyway.
>> We should have some kind of international police state
>> contest.
>
>I was stopped, but not arrested, one time back in USSR, for
>having a "bodybuilder" look. The officer went, "Hey
>pumped-up, come here!" My bag was searched for anabolic
>drugs, which I never used. I had a pack of multivitamins with
>me though, because I led a somewhat nomadic life at the time.
>The officer still expressed disapproval but let me go. I
>think that bodybuilding was considered a bourgeois or maybe
>dissident activity, and there was a popular belief that those
>big muscles are all fluff, developed by doing lots of
>repetitions with very small weights.

<heh> ... wait for it ...

>Of course, the hard-core kettlebell people still think so :-)

... and there it is!

[Vince]

On Aug 13, 10:55 pm, Prisoner at War
<prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So I had one of the gym staff take pictures of me for
> before-and-after shots, now that I'm getting serious about
> this bodybuilding/ weightlifting stuff...the guy's asking me
> whether I take steroids, and I'm like, what???

Yeah, most guys are pea brain when using that stuff. But
rather not than kill my looks. =) No offense to those who are
king of stacks here.. =)

> Then he tells me about these two guys in the gym
> who take steroids, and I'm like, holy shit!

=O holy crap! Oh, I'm not surprise! =p

>What's incredible to me is that these two guys ain't all
>that! They are definitely in shape and all, you definitely
>can tell they're athletes, but the thing is, they're no
>bodybuidling magazine models either...one of 'em had messed
>up his leg with an injection years ago, and the other had
>some kind of allergic reaction this past Friday that resulted
>in a misshapen right delt!

Ah! Synthol!!

> So now I'm starting to look down on steroid users...I
> already had a bad opinion of them through this newsgroup,
> but now that I've actually met some (one of them even
> publicly acknowledges his steroid use; he was showing people
> his misshapen delt, though I missed it and only heard about
> it later), I'm like, geez, they go through all that trouble
> and they look like they're at my level of physique! Frankly,
> they look "natural" to me -- which is why I'm so shocked --
> and not "freaky" at all...

I guess being freaky depends on your genetic potentials..
makes me wonder why how freaky markus rhul could get... =)

>which makes me wonder about all those "natural" competitors,
>now, who look like smaller versions of the druggies...!
>
> Indeed, now I'm wondering about all those big
> superhero-looking Army Rangers I knew (Pat Tillman-looking
> dudes, tall and big despite being always tired and hungry,
> which is the lot of an infantryman when not in
> garrison)...were all those guys on steroids too?? 'Cause I
> look the way I look doing simple basic calisthenics, and I
> was always wondering how come those guys are so big doing
> the same push-ups and pull-ups I do....

They're big but not at the level of proffesional bodybuilding.
They gain fat when they get big. Wherein in bodybuilding being
ripped and big is the game.

> I don't want to start getting a superiority complex here,
> but, unless it's a black guy, I'm suspicious that all these
> people with cannonball delts are just druggies!

Well, I tend to disagree with you. Flex wheeler injected some
on his delts.. I guess delt training could be attained if you
had spent many painful sessions finding out the right exercise
and groove for your delts. I, who had spent more than 6 months
trying to compensate on my delt structure had found things
which had greatly helped me in getting attentions becoz of my
delts, well, not that cannonball like but I got delts, some of
us here, don't . lol

Have a nice day, Good luck and keep pumping, vince

[Prisoner A]

On Aug 16, 1:13 pm, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Not exactly. The blogger stated, "I have an article about
> steroids on my site," which is what I'd call an attempt at
> driving people to his web site and/or blog, right?
>
> I'd tend to agree with you if Schuh typically stated, "I
> have an article about drums on my site." Of course he
> doesn't and so the comparison you provide isn't working.
>
> Two cents. Meh.
>
> --
> Curt

Aha!! More proof of the Jewish conspiracy in pro bodybuilding
-- all these thousand and one rules on what's kosher and when.

So it's fine if you have it in your sig line but not okay if
specific mention is made of it in the body of a
post...subtle, subtle!

[Vince]

On Aug 16, 6:55 am, Tom Anderson <t...@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, DZ wrote:
> > Tom Anderson <t...@urchin.earth.li> wrote:
>
> >> Debatable. But i think the UK has both of them beat
> >> anyway. We should have some kind of international police
> >> state contest.
>
> > I was stopped, but not arrested, one time back in USSR,
> > for having a "bodybuilder" look.
>
> I was stopped, but not arrested, this morning, for nothing
> at all. Terrorism act 2000, section 44.
>
> Although, as with our Swedish brother, it was a cute little
> blonde officerette who stopped me, so it's possible she
> wanted my name and address for other reasons ...
>
> > I think that bodybuilding was considered a bourgeois or
> > maybe dissident activity, and there was a popular belief
> > that those big muscles are all fluff, developed by doing
> > lots of repetitions with very small weights.
>
> Wow. People really do get funny ideas, don't they? And when
> they're the people with power, that can be really annoying.
>
> tom

I don't know tom, but here at my place , my colleagues at the
gym are mostly cops with big muscles and they're not on juice.
So no problem here.. =)

Well, I guess it all depend on the knowledge everybody has
about bodybuilding. If he doesn't know why people tend to get
big just by lifting weights and a good nutrition then for him
it's gonna be all because of STEROIDS ALMIGHTY. Yeah, just
like an illiterate guy who keep judging big guys just becoz he
knows nothing about it. =)

-Vince

[Prisoner A]

On Aug 16, 8:50 pm, VinCe <sweet_rusk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> <SNIP>
>
>
>
> Ah! Synthol!!

Actually, another guy with cannonball delts looks like he's
got implants or something...but this guy with the misshapen
delt, his delts look "natural" normally -- just a little
bigger than mine (and mine are only "athletic," not
"cannonball")...that's what's so surprising to me, that these
druggies don't look bigger than me! But maybe it's just silly
gossip that they use steroids...I really don't know...but what
sucks is that now I've lost respect for them simply on the
suspicion of drug use...not so much that they do it, but that
they go through the trouble without anything to show for it!

> I guess being freaky depends on your genetic potentials..
> makes me wonder why how freaky markus rhul could get... =)

Surely these guys have before and after photos...it'd be great
if someone were to do a book on steroids in bodybuilding and
provide before and after shots of the pros! No doubt they were
big dudes to begin with; but I wonder just how much of a
factor drugs are, and in what ways....

> They're big but not at the level of proffesional
> bodybuilding. They gain fat when they get big. Wherein in
> bodybuilding being ripped and big is the game.

True -- but they're still impressive...I mean, Pat Tillman
basic training graduation photo is like, wow...most people
lose weight after basic training!

> Well, I tend to disagree with you. Flex wheeler injected
> some on his delts.. I guess delt training could be attained
> if you had spent many painful sessions finding out the right
> exercise and groove for your delts. I, who had spent more
> than 6 months trying to compensate on my delt structure had
> found things which had greatly helped me in getting
> attentions becoz of my delts, well, not that cannonball like
> but I got delts, some of us here, don't . lol

I wonder if delts are like abs or calves, if some muscles are
naturally harder to train (to effect) than others...my calves
are naturally poppin' and I don't do no work on them (until
lately now that I've adopted the squat and the deadlift as
exercises)...but my delts don't seem to respond any, they're
just the same as they ever were, which is definitely
"athletic" but nowhere near "cannonball"...so I wonder if some
guys in the gym are on drugs now!

> Have a nice day, Good luck and keep pumping, vince

You too; remember: good form!

[Vince]

On Aug 17, 11:48 pm, Prisoner at War
<prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 16, 8:50 pm, VinCe <sweet_rusk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > <SNIP>
>
> > Ah! Synthol!!
>
> Actually, another guy with cannonball delts looks like
> he's got implants or something...but this guy with the
> misshapen delt,

I remember Chris Cormier talking about Flex Wheeler's synthol
use. He said that one time FLex's delt became too freaky that
you from the rear it looked like you can put a hanger on it.
lol And Chris also stated that if Darrem charles would be the
one giving advice on calf training then it's bull* since
Darrem's calves a Synthol full..

>his delts look "natural" normally -- just a little bigger
>than mine (and mine are only "athletic," not
>"cannonball")...that's what's so surprising to me, that these
>druggies don't look bigger than me! But maybe it's just silly
>gossip that they use steroids....

Well, they can be using it for real. Just don't know the right
way of "stacking" as they call it, I guess. I know guys who
take them and still be smaller than I am.. lol

>I really don't know...but what sucks is that now I've lost
>respect for them simply on the suspicion of drug use...

Don't be bro. Unless they tell it to your face. I suffer from
that consequence too. Not because I use drugs or whatever, but
becoz my physique seems drug-aided, but if they were me
they'll know that it takes more than that to be what we are
today. They never counted the days where I have sacrifice
dates for my workout and how many pounds of iron I move a day.
So, I'm saying it to you like a respectful ironhead, let's not
judge them according to looks. Coz if we did then most of us
hardcores are on drugs.. got my point? =)

>not so much that they do it, but that they go through the
>trouble without anything to show for it!

> > I guess being freaky depends on your genetic potentials..
> makes me
> > wonder why how freaky markus rhul could get... =)
>
> Surely these guys have before and after photos..

Yeah, like that of Dennis James on the magazine wherein a 1999
pic was posted and at the right is the latest contest pic.
What brains do these supplement industry have? Are we fool to
be believe that long before this supplement was created Dennis
was already using it? Ha!

>.it'd be great if someone were to do a book on steroids in
>bodybuilding and provide before and after shots of the pros!

Yeah, that would be nice but I would rather not .. If you'll
think of it, many young aspiring kids would follow them. It's
okay if they're fooling us, young adults about taking this
supp's and get huge like them, but not the kids..

>No doubt they were big dudes to begin with;

On youtube, you can see Flex's tiny tiny body when he first
started. So let's just say steroids for his body works
wonder! Big Time!

>but I wonder just how much of a factor drugs are,

Big factor... Just look at Nasser or Coleman.. There! There's
the big factor... A freakin gut...

>and in what ways....

Things always have two effects.. The good ones and the bad
ones.. They may make you huge but they can also make your
stomach huger. They may make you look healthy, but end up
looking for someone to donate a kidney for you (like what
happened to mr. shcuh here..) And lastly they can make you
spend lots of dollars and end up earning a little. So for me
being freaky the natural way is the only way to live a
peaceful and healthy life. We may not be a pro but we know
deep inside us that we are a much better athlete since we
choose the hardest way of gaining muscle, THE NATURAL WAY!

> > They're big but not at the level of proffesional
> > bodybuilding. They gain fat when they get big. Wherein in
> > bodybuilding being ripped and big is the game.
>
> True -- but they're still impressive...I mean, Pat Tillman
> basic training graduation photo is like, wow...most people
> lose weight after basic training!

Well, Anyone who's new into training will really change big
time but as time goes by gaining becomes very hard so it's
just normal to get a makeover after your first few months in
the gym, assuming it's your first ever..

> > Well, I tend to disagree with you. Flex wheeler injected
> > some on his delts.. I guess delt training could be
> > attained if you had spent many painful sessions finding
> > out the right exercise and groove for your delts. I, who
> > had spent more than 6 months trying to compensate on my
> > delt structure had found things which had greatly helped
> > me in getting attentions becoz of my delts, well, not
> > that cannonball like but I got delts, some of us here,
> > don't . lol
>

> I wonder if delts are like abs or calves,

It would be if:

1. You're not genetically blessed with good delt
structure.
2. You don't like training it unlike those favs like
chest and arms.
3. You just have one of the poorest form in the gym.

> if some muscles are naturally harder to train (to effect)
> than others...my calves are naturally poppin' and I don't do
> no work on them (until lately now that I've adopted the
> squat and the deadlift as exercises)... but my delts don't
> seem to respond any, they're just the same as they ever
> were, which is definitely "athletic" but nowhere near
> "cannonball"..

We're the opposite man. My calves are my weakness. My delts
are fairly round but not yet at it's peak though. Controlling
and flexing your delts at photos are what makes it look more
rounded and fuller.

>so I wonder if some guys in the gym are on drugs now!

YeS! Let's admit it... =)

> > Have a nice day, Good luck and keep pumping, vince
>
> You too; remember: good form!

-vince

[Hard Bop D]

"weakestlink33" <cmcnama2@nd.edu> wrote in message
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>> Fuck you SPAMMER. You don't know a fucking thing about
>> anabolic steroids, so why comment? Go back to ass fucking
>> little boys.
>
> How does relating personal experience that is similar to
> what another made a post about spamming?

You are spamming your ill informed blog. Moron

If you've ever even been to a gym, you
> know how available steroids are.

Listen asshole, I have been training since the mid 70s, have
won many BBing shows, trained top pro bodybuilders and
written for 4 different biodybuilding publications, so I
have forgotten more about anabolic steroids than you will
ever know.

I think its even worse that they are
> easily available to underage people too, but for some reason
> being AGAINST the use of steroids automatically make me a
> spammer.

You are spamming your pathetic blog.

Even if
> there weren't medical side affects, I'd still be against
> there use. But you seem to want to cheat yourself through
> life and flame anyone who says different, so enjoy you false
> strength while while you can (until your premature
> death)...good choice :)

Why do you feel that you have ANY knowledge to comment on this
topic? You don't know the first thing about how anabolic
steroids work nor about their real side effects. Do you know
that NO ONE has ever died from the use an anabolic steroids?
There have been ZERO cases of any end stage organ failure from
the use of anabolic steroids. Do you know how many kids die
every year on bicycles? If so, why are you not railing on and
on about the dangers if riding bikes? It's because you are an
illiterate moron who merely parrots the bullshit he is fed by
the media. I suggest you post your real name and what your
qualifications are to discuss this topic. BTW, I currently
consult with 3 difference Hormone Replacement centers. Do you
know what means? It means we dispense anabolic steroids and
Human Growth Hormone legally. Kids can get crack too, so you
really need to pick your battles better and to get an
education.

-- --Robert Schuh"Everything that elevates an individual above
the herd and intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called
evil; and the fair, modest, submissive and conforming
mentality, the mediocrity of desires attains moral
designations and honors" -
Nietzschehttp://www.hardbopdrums.com/

[Al Bino]

"Hard Bop Drums" <I currently consult with 3 difference
Hormone Replacement centers. Do you know what means? It means
we dispense anabolic steroids and Human Growth Hormone
legally. >

Lots of homosexuals dying from AIDS have discovered the
positive effects of steroids. Good on you for helping your
fellow gays.