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etzler57
Thu, Aug-09-07, 19:36
I have been lc since the middle of June i do believe..just now starting differenct supplements into my diet.. i am wondering if anyone else has used Sugar Blocker and if so, what exactly is it and how does it work?

Ironmaiden
Thu, Aug-09-07, 22:38
I haven't taken any sugar blockers, but I am using cinnamon and vinegar to lower my blood sugar. It helps, but it doesn't mean you can run rampant through the cookie aisles. lol. It can lower glucose levels by 5 to 10 points. When taken over an extended period of time, it has a long term affect, even when stopped.

kebaldwin
Fri, Aug-10-07, 06:49
Not sure what you mean?

If you are low carbing - then you are not eating sugar - and I assume that a sugar blocker would block the absorption of sugar - which you are not eating - because you are low carbing.

If you are looking for something to help control your blood sugar - 1 - low carb diet is perfect start and then - 2 - supplements can help

Chromium GTF is the main supplement for blood sugar control
Cinammon is good

http://www.lef.org/protocols/metabolic_health/diabetes_01.htm

http://www.vitacost.com/BloodSugar.html

I would suggest that you start with a high quality "mega" multivitamin and fish oil and then add some of these other supplements in

cs_carver
Fri, Aug-10-07, 06:53
The bigger question: How much are you willing to spend on supplements, and what's your goal?

Any form of sugar blocker will only work on sugars you eat, and if you're doing something close to Atkins, you are probably not eating many sugars anyway. So you'd be spending money to allow yourself to "cheat" and hope you don't suffer consequences. OK if that's the way you want to go.

For my limited supplement budget (and I'm being a bit sarcastic because I spend a BOATLOAD of money on supplements and I still think it's limited and there are more I would take if I could bring myself to spend even more), I prefer to focus on supplements that actually promote health, rather than allow me to do something I shouldn't be doing in the first place. You don't say what else you're taking, so I can't respond any more specifically than that.

As above, controlling blood sugar is different, but you don't say if you have been diagnosed as a diabetic or are at risk. Either way, a LC diet is the best defence, with supplements helping that part of blood sugar that diet alone can't control. And generally, products that help control blood sugar aren't labelled as "blockers."

Good luck.

Ironmaiden
Fri, Aug-10-07, 14:23
Kebaldwin, Thanks for the tip on chromium gtf. Are you diabetic, how long have you been taking it (the supplement) and what type of results have you seen?

kebaldwin
Fri, Aug-10-07, 16:34
Kebaldwin, Thanks for the tip on chromium gtf. Are you diabetic, how long have you been taking it (the supplement) and what type of results have you seen?

I was never officially diagnosed with type 2 diabetes but I did have most symtpoms of pre type 2 diabetes / syndrome X / metabolic syndrome.

At one time - I also was taking the Trichromalean diet supplement - which I assume had a lot of chromium in it

Some people claim chromium does nothing for them. I take like 800 mcg per day - I am 250 pounds. I have taken it about 4 years now. For me - it reduces hunger and cravings. (helps regulate blood sugar)

etzler57
Fri, Aug-10-07, 18:39
thanks but i dont have diabetes, but as i stated i was looking to add supplements into may daily routine and i'm just trying to find out what i should take or shouldn't take and so on, at this point its research.

kebaldwin
Fri, Aug-10-07, 19:55
If you are on a low carb diet - then you should not be eating carbs, sugar or starch. So carb blocker, sugar blocker, starch blocker - make no sense - because you are not eating them.

I recommend a high quality "mega" multivitamin and lots of fish oil.

Try more chromium
Magnesum
Potassium - get some "salt substitute" sold in most grocery stores. Main ingredient should be potassium

after that it depends on what health problems you have. Note there is a supplements forum that you might want to brose through

cs_carver
Sat, Aug-11-07, 07:52
i was looking to add supplements into may daily routine and i'm just trying to find out what i should take or shouldn't take and so on, at this point its research.

Good primer from a LC point of view, written by Dr. A. himself. Lots and lots of information in there. A tiny bit dated and maybe there are some newer references available, but it covers the ground pretty thoroughly.

Ironmaiden
Mon, Aug-13-07, 21:45
I was never officially diagnosed with type 2 diabetes but I did have most symtpoms of pre type 2 diabetes / syndrome X / metabolic syndrome.

At one time - I also was taking the Trichromalean diet supplement - which I assume had a lot of chromium in it

Some people claim chromium does nothing for them. I take like 800 mcg per day - I am 250 pounds. I have taken it about 4 years now. For me - it reduces hunger and cravings. (helps regulate blood sugar)


Do you meter?

Cajunboy47
Mon, Aug-13-07, 22:07
If you are on a low carb diet - then you should not be eating carbs, sugar or starch. So carb blocker, sugar blocker, starch blocker - make no sense - because you are not eating them.

I recommend a high quality "mega" multivitamin and lots of fish oil.

Try more chromium
Magnesum
Potassium - get some "salt substitute" sold in most grocery stores. Main ingredient should be potassium

after that it depends on what health problems you have. Note there is a supplements forum that you might want to brose through

I disagree... If I'm on low carb, I am consuming carbs and if my metabolism is such that I still get elevated BG on a low carb diet, then it would make perfect sense for me to take a sugar blocker, especially if it is "gymnema sylvestre" and I've had excellent results with it........

kebaldwin
Tue, Aug-14-07, 04:56
Do you meter?
No

Most doctors don't understand what I am doing, they don't understand the low carb diet, they don't understand a lot of things - that I had to learn the hard way - and are not the American Diabetes Assocaition approved. I thought about working with an endocrinologist - who would probably best understand these things - but why bother?

Ironmaiden
Fri, Sep-07-07, 01:10
No

Most doctors don't understand what I am doing, they don't understand the low carb diet, they don't understand a lot of things - that I had to learn the hard way - and are not the American Diabetes Assocaition approved. I thought about working with an endocrinologist - who would probably best understand these things - but why bother?


Is this why you don't meter? You don't need a prescription. You can pick up a monitor for as little as $8.88 from WalMart and the test strips run about $42 for 100. That's a good deal, because most strips are significantly more.
Metering tells me how my blood is reacting to the food I eat and it helps me stay on the straight and narrow.

kebaldwin
Fri, Sep-07-07, 04:22
There's always a long list of things I should do - like flossing my teeth daily - that don't get done. There is a long list of things that go undone every night when I lay down to go to sleep.

I do a lot of my own health care now. Life extension (http://www.lef.org) has some great blood tests. I wish that I had taken one of those before I started taking supplements. And they have several groups now that do the cardiac risk factor tests - I wish I had done one of those also.

The main thing I would be interested in regarding blood sugar is the A1C(?) the long term measure of blood sugar. I wish I had that number to compare

I did do the Dr Atkins challenge - sort of. YOu are suppose to go get a full and complete physical (including blood work) BEFORE you start the atkins diet and supplements. And then schedule another one just two or 3 months later.

The last time I saw the doctor was my second physical where they said - whatever you are doing - keep on doing it

Ironmaiden
Sat, Sep-08-07, 15:23
I do a lot of my own health care now. Life extension (http://www.lef.org) has some great blood tests. I wish that I had taken one of those before I started taking supplements. And they have several groups now that do the cardiac risk factor tests - I wish I had done one of those also.

The main thing I would be interested in regarding blood sugar is the A1C(?) the long term measure of blood sugar. I wish I had that number to compare



Thanks for sharing about Life Extension. I have been thinking of doing my own healthcare to. It's good to know that you don't have to be a victim to insurance companies and the medical community. It's kind of retro, going back to the days when some could not afford a doctor and learned to heal themselves. It's very empowering.
I am curious that they did not give you the A1C test when you took your physical. My doctor did, that's when I was diagnosed as pre-diabetic. However, my obesitiy, plus dark pigment around my neck and on my cheek bones were visual indicators, according to my doctor.
I need to get my blood tests results from him so that I can compare the then and now.
Kebaldwin, you inspire me. Thanks.

kebaldwin
Sun, Sep-09-07, 13:59
Thanks for the kind words!

Obviously you can not do everything health wise by yourself. Somewhere you have to strike a balance. If you require emergency care - then it is obvious.

The reason I got so turned off by the traditonal health experts - was because I had many pre type 2 diabetes symptoms - but not one "health experts" ever mentioned pre type 2 diabetes / metabolic syndrome or Syndrome X. I was the one that had to figure that out.

All they ever recommended was surgery and prescription drugs for the rest of my life, and a lot more time visiting doctors.

So if my experience helps you avoid one prescription drug for one year - it would be worth it.