Ed Conrad
Wed, Jul-18-07, 06:17
< Maybe you should read your own charter, moderator David Iain
Greig. I think it's time you played by talk.origins' own
rules. < All you have allowed in talk.origins for years is
evolution propaganda. Anyone possessing the physical evidence
that evolution is bull crap -- or has argued that evolution is
nothing more than a pipedream -- is rudely shown the door. <
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< CHARTER: talk.origins (See Nasty e-mail Below) < No copy of
the original charter of talk.origins is currently available.
(Apparently a formal charter was never issued.) < The
newsgroup talk.origins is meant as a venue for discussion of
the scientific, religious, and political issues pertaining to
various theories of the origins and development of life and
the universe. < Within such basic guidelines, wide-ranging
discussions over a large number of topics are covered, all
relating back to the main purpose of the group. < Given the
sometimes contentious nature of such discussions A MODERTION
POLICY HAS BEEN SELECTED TO PERMIT NRESTRICTED DISCUSSIONS,
BUT TO LIMIT CROSSPOSTING TO/FROM TALK.ORIGINS. < No cross
posts to more than three other groups are permitted. NO
CONTENT-BSED CONSIDERATIONS ARE TO BE MADE IN EVALUATING
ARTICLES FOR THE GROUP, ONLY THE NUMBER OF GROUPS OSTED TO. <
Any article submitted to talk.origins that is posted to
greater than four (4) newsgroups in either the Newsgroups: or
Followup-To: headers shall be returned to the sender with an
explanation of the cross post policy of the group. No
alteration of either the Newsgroups: or Followup-To: header is
to be performed; either a post passes the crosspost-limit or
is rejected.
Articles received my the moderator will be examined to check
if there are other moderated newsgroups listed in the
Newsgroups: line. Should there be another moderated newsgroup
so listed, the article will be forwarded to the moderator of
the other newsgroup for approval. < Should all other moderated
newsgroups listed in the Newsgroups: line already have been
approved, then the moderator shall post the article, if it
passes the moderation guidelines. < If the article does not
pass the moderation guidelines, it should be sent back to one
of the moderators of the other newsgroups, stating why the
article has been rejected. The article should also be returned
to the original poster where practicable. A copy of the
scripts used for moderation is to be kept on a publicly-
accessible web site for inspection, the location of which will
be announced on a regular basis on the newsgroup.
The moderator is permitted to cancel any unapproved posting to
the newsgroup, if (AND ONLY IF) the posting violates the
crosspost-limitation guidelines. < To specifically allow
posting of relevant RFDs and CFVs, articles with prior
approval by the moderators of news.announce.newgroups and
*.answers will be approved for posting, even where they
violate the cross-post moderation guidelines.
Cancellation, by third parties, of articles containing binary
data (bincancels) and posts that are considered 'spam'
(spamcancels) or excessive crossposting (ECPcancels) IS NOT
PROHIBITED BY THIS CHARTER, even where the post to be
cancelled has been approved by the moderator of talk.origins.
Six (6) months after such time as the moderation policy given
above shall come into effect (by public declaration of the
moderator of talk.origins on talk.origins and news.groups), a
revote on the moderation status of talk.origins is to be
conducted by a neutral vote-taker in the manner of a normal
RFD/CFV. < Note that this revote does not depend on the wishes
of the moderator of either talk.origins or any other
newsgroup. Should the proposal to unmoderate the group pass,
the group should revert to unmoderated status as soon
thereafter is practicable. < Should either the moderator of
talk.origins or any other newsgroup refuse to permit or
conduct the revote so as to prevent it from taking place, then
the revote shall be assumed to have passed, and the newsgroup
shall immediately revert to an unmoderated status. (Once the
revote has been conducted and the results are final, this
paragraph shall be of no further effect and may be removed
from the charter.) <
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< < TRUTH VS. THE MONUMENTAL LIE OF MAN'S EVOLUTION < (Fossils
-- SOME HUMAN -- Found Between Coal Veins) < < talk.origins
moderator David Iain Greig < http://mysite.verizon.net/edconr-
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EMBEDDED IN SLATE <
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http://www.edconrad.com <
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< Dale Kelly posted this on July 6, 2007... < David Iain
Greig, the moderator of talk.origins has recently went on a
rampage about my posts. He has claimed they were off-topic.
All of my posts have an implication on origins. The charter of
talk.origins says speech will only be limited by a
cross-posting
limit (4). < David has gone beyond the charter and begun to
set arbitrary and unspecified limits on topic, this
amounts to CONTENT CENSORSHIP. I don't agree with
CONTENT CENSORSHIP and doubt many people
do. < David, if you wish to make content decisions, you should
at least specify what those decisions are, instead of
making them arbitrary and only based on your whims. You
should go through the RFD/CFV process to change the
charter such that only specified topics are allowed, if
you propose to set limits on topics. < There is no way I
can determine what you mean by off-topic, unless you
specify it. This is a convenient way for you to ban me,
because your rules will be construed to exclude ANYTHING I
post until you achieve your objective. < I suggest David
be limited to the charter (4 crossposts), until he goes
through the RFD/CFV process to change the charter. In the
meantime, he should change the script that runs the
moderation bot, and remove all his bans and exceptions
that are NOT charter based. < Here is the charter
http://www.ediacara.org/~to/charter.html < Ed Conrad
http://www.edconrad.com <
Greig. I think it's time you played by talk.origins' own
rules. < All you have allowed in talk.origins for years is
evolution propaganda. Anyone possessing the physical evidence
that evolution is bull crap -- or has argued that evolution is
nothing more than a pipedream -- is rudely shown the door. <
============================================
< CHARTER: talk.origins (See Nasty e-mail Below) < No copy of
the original charter of talk.origins is currently available.
(Apparently a formal charter was never issued.) < The
newsgroup talk.origins is meant as a venue for discussion of
the scientific, religious, and political issues pertaining to
various theories of the origins and development of life and
the universe. < Within such basic guidelines, wide-ranging
discussions over a large number of topics are covered, all
relating back to the main purpose of the group. < Given the
sometimes contentious nature of such discussions A MODERTION
POLICY HAS BEEN SELECTED TO PERMIT NRESTRICTED DISCUSSIONS,
BUT TO LIMIT CROSSPOSTING TO/FROM TALK.ORIGINS. < No cross
posts to more than three other groups are permitted. NO
CONTENT-BSED CONSIDERATIONS ARE TO BE MADE IN EVALUATING
ARTICLES FOR THE GROUP, ONLY THE NUMBER OF GROUPS OSTED TO. <
Any article submitted to talk.origins that is posted to
greater than four (4) newsgroups in either the Newsgroups: or
Followup-To: headers shall be returned to the sender with an
explanation of the cross post policy of the group. No
alteration of either the Newsgroups: or Followup-To: header is
to be performed; either a post passes the crosspost-limit or
is rejected.
Articles received my the moderator will be examined to check
if there are other moderated newsgroups listed in the
Newsgroups: line. Should there be another moderated newsgroup
so listed, the article will be forwarded to the moderator of
the other newsgroup for approval. < Should all other moderated
newsgroups listed in the Newsgroups: line already have been
approved, then the moderator shall post the article, if it
passes the moderation guidelines. < If the article does not
pass the moderation guidelines, it should be sent back to one
of the moderators of the other newsgroups, stating why the
article has been rejected. The article should also be returned
to the original poster where practicable. A copy of the
scripts used for moderation is to be kept on a publicly-
accessible web site for inspection, the location of which will
be announced on a regular basis on the newsgroup.
The moderator is permitted to cancel any unapproved posting to
the newsgroup, if (AND ONLY IF) the posting violates the
crosspost-limitation guidelines. < To specifically allow
posting of relevant RFDs and CFVs, articles with prior
approval by the moderators of news.announce.newgroups and
*.answers will be approved for posting, even where they
violate the cross-post moderation guidelines.
Cancellation, by third parties, of articles containing binary
data (bincancels) and posts that are considered 'spam'
(spamcancels) or excessive crossposting (ECPcancels) IS NOT
PROHIBITED BY THIS CHARTER, even where the post to be
cancelled has been approved by the moderator of talk.origins.
Six (6) months after such time as the moderation policy given
above shall come into effect (by public declaration of the
moderator of talk.origins on talk.origins and news.groups), a
revote on the moderation status of talk.origins is to be
conducted by a neutral vote-taker in the manner of a normal
RFD/CFV. < Note that this revote does not depend on the wishes
of the moderator of either talk.origins or any other
newsgroup. Should the proposal to unmoderate the group pass,
the group should revert to unmoderated status as soon
thereafter is practicable. < Should either the moderator of
talk.origins or any other newsgroup refuse to permit or
conduct the revote so as to prevent it from taking place, then
the revote shall be assumed to have passed, and the newsgroup
shall immediately revert to an unmoderated status. (Once the
revote has been conducted and the results are final, this
paragraph shall be of no further effect and may be removed
from the charter.) <
================================
<
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/FOSSILS/manasoldemboss.gif
< < TRUTH VS. THE MONUMENTAL LIE OF MAN'S EVOLUTION < (Fossils
-- SOME HUMAN -- Found Between Coal Veins) < < talk.origins
moderator David Iain Greig < http://mysite.verizon.net/edconr-
ad/FOSSILS/OldestHumanSkull.JPG
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/FOSSILS/ManasOldasCoal.jpg
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/FOSSILS/Discoveries.jpg
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/FOSSILS/MoreFossils.jpg
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/FOSSILS/HumanBrain.jpg
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/FOSSILS/TestResults.jpg
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/FOSSILS/OldestTool.jpg
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/FOSSILS/Scorpion.jpg
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/FOSSILS/MVC-013F.JPG < To
prove they're the real McCoy: < < PETRIFIED FOSSILS STILL
EMBEDDED IN SLATE <
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-002S.JPG
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-003S.JPG
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-006S.JPG
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-007S.JPG
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-009S.JPG
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-010S.JPG
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/NewFossils/MVC-012S.JPG <
Ed Conrad Man as Old as Coal AND Proof of Life After Death
http://www.edconrad.com <
==========================================
< Dale Kelly posted this on July 6, 2007... < David Iain
Greig, the moderator of talk.origins has recently went on a
rampage about my posts. He has claimed they were off-topic.
All of my posts have an implication on origins. The charter of
talk.origins says speech will only be limited by a
cross-posting
limit (4). < David has gone beyond the charter and begun to
set arbitrary and unspecified limits on topic, this
amounts to CONTENT CENSORSHIP. I don't agree with
CONTENT CENSORSHIP and doubt many people
do. < David, if you wish to make content decisions, you should
at least specify what those decisions are, instead of
making them arbitrary and only based on your whims. You
should go through the RFD/CFV process to change the
charter such that only specified topics are allowed, if
you propose to set limits on topics. < There is no way I
can determine what you mean by off-topic, unless you
specify it. This is a convenient way for you to ban me,
because your rules will be construed to exclude ANYTHING I
post until you achieve your objective. < I suggest David
be limited to the charter (4 crossposts), until he goes
through the RFD/CFV process to change the charter. In the
meantime, he should change the script that runs the
moderation bot, and remove all his bans and exceptions
that are NOT charter based. < Here is the charter
http://www.ediacara.org/~to/charter.html < Ed Conrad
http://www.edconrad.com <