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kebaldwin
Fri, Jun-29-07, 11:24
Four hours of travel 'a DVT risk'

The risk of developing dangerous blood clots doubles after travel lasting four hours or more, research shows.

The risk applies to plane, train, bus or automobile passengers who remain seated and immobile, the World Health Organization found.

Blood clots can form in the lower limbs during long periods of immobility - and can kill if they travel to the lungs.

But WHO cautions that the absolute risk remains relatively low - at about one in 6,000 passengers.

Immobility

Passengers taking multiple flights over a short period of time are also at higher risk, says WHO.

This is because the risk of venous thromboembolism (VTE) - the collective name for DVTs and pulmonary embolisms (clots in the lungs) - does not go away completely after a flight is over, and risk remains elevated for about four weeks.

The report, commissioned in 2001 shortly after media and public attention on VTE following the death from pulmonary embolism of a young English woman who returned on a long-haul flight from Australia, confirms that a number of other factors increase the risk of clots during travel.

It is important to remember that the risk of developing VTE when travelling remains relatively low
WHO spokeswoman Dr Catherine Le Galès-Camus

These include obesity, being very tall or very short (taller than 1.9m or shorter than 1.6m), use of oral contraceptives, and inherited blood disorders leading to increased clotting tendency.

WHO spokeswoman Dr Catherine Le Galès-Camus said travellers should not be alarmed by the findings.

"The study does confirm that there is an increased risk of venous thromboembolism during travel where the passenger is seated and immobile over four hours, whether in a plane, train, bus or car.

"However, it is important to remember that the risk of developing VTE when travelling remains relatively low," she said.

Although the researchers did not look at what individuals can do to guard against clots, experts already know of some effective preventive measures.

For example, exercising the calf muscles with up-and-down movements of the feet at the ankle joints helps keep the blood in the legs moving.

People should also avoid wearing tight clothing during travel, as such garments may promote blood stagnation.

Wearing compression stockings may also be advised for those at risk of developing a DVT.

Mr Farrol Kahn, director of Aviation Health, said: "Evidence suggests there is a bigger DVT risk associated with flying than with any other mode of transport...partly because of prolonged sitting.

"You are unlikely to sit immobile in a car for 12 hours.

"We would recommend air travellers wear compression stockings and consider taking an aspirin before a long flight."

WHO shied away from making specific recommendations of preventive measures such as blood-thinning medications and elastic stockings which seek to prevent clotting, saying more research was needed into possible side effects.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/health/6248586.stm

Published: 2007/06/29 09:18:31 GMT

kebaldwin
Fri, Jun-29-07, 11:26
The risk applies to plane, train, bus or automobile passengers who remain seated and immobile
what about people that sit at a desk or table all day???

Citruskiss
Sun, Jul-01-07, 11:45
what about people that sit at a desk or table all day???

Yes - it's called 'e-thrombosis'.

Here's an article:

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/online/news/0,12597,884805,00.html

deb34
Tue, Jul-03-07, 11:32
my 42 yr old friend just suffered a stroke after coming back from vacation on a 5 hour flight. The day after arriva, sh complained of pain in her calf and was treated at hospital for a sprain and the next day she couldn't talk or move so ambulance to the hospital where she was treated for stroke.

She is now undergoing physio and speech therapy etc.

pennink
Tue, Jul-03-07, 11:38
my 42 yr old friend just suffered a stroke after coming back from vacation on a 5 hour flight. The day after arriva, sh complained of pain in her calf and was treated at hospital for a sprain and the next day she couldn't talk or move so ambulance to the hospital where she was treated for stroke.

She is now undergoing physio and speech therapy etc.


Did she have high blood pressure? Any other risk factors? wow.

A co-worker, young, athletic, developed this from working on a long project. Incredibly painful, and ended her employment as she could no longer work.

Very scary. Luckily, my diuretics keep me moving around in airplanes and in my office!

deb34
Tue, Jul-03-07, 11:41
she had recently lost over 100lbs on Dr. Bernstein but i'm not sure about the BP issues or other risk factors.

pennink
Tue, Jul-03-07, 11:43
she had recently lost over 100lbs on Dr. Bernstein but i'm not sure about the BP issues or other risk factors.


this is scary!!!! So she wasn't obese anymore? OMG. This scares me. I sit in a car for hours sometimes and I notice my leg bugs me.

AGH!

deb34
Tue, Jul-03-07, 12:13
when i am in a car for long periods, my legs start to feel jumpy and restless. Usually, that's my signal to stop the car and walk around for a few minutes...usually at a mall parking lot or a rest stop or a gas station.

Gostrydr
Tue, Jul-03-07, 20:35
There is a phenomanal product available that can have a huge impact on thromosis..it can help lower blood pressure,increase circulation to the head,to the organs and tissues.

It works better than aspirin and is comparable to Warafin/'Coumadin..and it has a half life of eight hours which is longer than the drugs mentioned above. It is a compound everyone over 35 should take...everyone.

It can reduce the risk of stroke and heart attack by 40% and I say that is a conservative number.

It is called Nattokinase.. It is the Enzyme of all Enzymes, it helps reduce fibrin and stimulate plasminogen....read all that you can on it ..it has an amazing amount of research behind it and it really works.

The first time I took it,I had an immediate fuzziness to my head and my eyesight got better.

I asked the doc (who brought it to this country) about what I experienced and he said that I had better blood flow to my head now and there can be a buildup of fibrin in the vessels and capillaries leading to the eyes.

do not take if you are on a blood thinner like Plavix(though Plavix works on Platelet aggregation) coumadin,warafin.

I have seen time and time again, people getting off these meds in place of nattokinase. You will have to have your doc monitor your clotting factors before weaning yourself off of these meds... if you choose to do so.

IMO..the best supp to come out in over the last 20 years

kebaldwin
Tue, Jul-03-07, 20:58
http://www.vitacost.com/newsletter/newsletter.cfm?nl=178

http://search.lef.org/search/default.aspx?s=1&QUERY=Nattokinase

Nancy LC
Tue, Jul-03-07, 23:02
...There is a phenomanal product available that can have a huge impact on thromosis..it can help lower blood pressure,increase circulation to the head,to the organs and tissues.

Not to shoot you down but there's some skepticism about Nattokinase:

Dr. Davis at heartscanblog.blogspot.com says nattokinasse is WAY overhyped. However he does say that K2 is very good stuff.

http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2007/05/marketing-and-truth-are-not-same.html
http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2007/04/nattokinase-scam.html
http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2007/04/vitamin-k2-and-coronary-plaque.html

Gostrydr
Tue, Jul-03-07, 23:32
Well Dr. Davis is wrong..I like Dr. Davis ,but Nancy again,I have seen what it has done for people(In a clinical setting)..and what it has done for me..

Let's just say I'm extremely biased toward Nattokinase..

kebaldwin
Wed, Jul-04-07, 08:55
You can find articles that prove every vitamin, mineral, and supplement is a waste of time and money and could be dangerous.

You can find all kinds of articles that prove why the Atkins diet should have caused my brain, kidney, liver, and heart to fail years ago.

My point is - thanks for the other view - but with a lot of positive information out there on it - I think people should try it and see for themselves.

Could be that he was using a cheap version.

Nancy LC
Wed, Jul-04-07, 09:14
I had a friend who needed a hospital stay for something and they taught her to "paddle" her feet to keep the blood from clotting.

Gostrydr
Wed, Jul-04-07, 09:30
Ke,
Dr. Sumi who isolated Nattokinase had a specific form of it..that was brought to the U.S by Dr. Hollsworth.

Now there is an influx of Natto from Korea,China and Vietnam(I think) that is not up to the standard up Dr. Sumis. It is almost $1000 a kilo cheaper and we can tell right away that it is not as good when we take it.

deb34
Wed, Jul-04-07, 09:59
is there any way to assure that you buy the best quality product w/o necessarily buying the Dr. endorsed product?

I'm pretty sure that would not be available in my area and online shipping and customs is usually too expensive to be practical...