tom sawyer
Tue, Jun-26-07, 08:13
Anybody see this episode? It was interesting. There was a fairly distinguished group discussing the issues.
http://www.dietdetective.com/content/view/2422/82/
There's probably a better link, if anyone has it please post.
They sort of danced around the evolutionary aspect of diet without ever coming to specifics, which was maddening. I kept waiting for LC to come out as the proper diet form an evolutionary perspective. There was a lot of discussion about genetics versus environment, and one interesting point was that there is a feed-forward mechanism going on that sort of appears to be genetic, but isn't. Specifically, in utero a fetus is exposed to nutrition of the mother and is influenced, possibly for life. So a mother with diabetes, passes it on to her child through this influence in the womb. The child then does the same, creating a cycle that mimics inheritance.
David Ludwig was the proponent of a low carb diet, he calls it low glycemic index but he practices this and has seen the benefits in his own health. Apparently is the researcher who recently reported that people with a certain type of insulin response, do much better on a LC diet. His comment was that we may be able to do tests and prescribe individualized diet advice in the future. Not a bad idea, except that the LC diet was as good as low fat in the other group so why do you need to "individualize" a diet when one diet does show best results? He did write a book on nutrition in children which I might get because I think it lends validity to the way my wife and I are raising our kids. That is, not totally LC but much moreso than the way the average kid eats.
Marion Nestle was the same old tired diatribe of "eat well", which to her mind meant whole grains and watching fats. Guess you don't expect an old dog to learn new tricks.
Rudy Liebel was all about the money in my opinion. His idea was that once we understand more about the molecular mechanisms dealing with weight, then we might expect to come up with treatments. Yep, give him money to do research and eventually he'll come up with that magic pill. Ludwig did call him on that though, asking if he was prepared to medicate people starting at childhood, for life. Liebel of course sidestepped that, saying it wasn't for him to determine the ethical aspects. No, he justs need more funding.
Gina Kolata said she eats lots of pasta, so I basically think she is part of the problem not the solution. As a reporter, I don't expect much of her though.
Paul Nurse sort of led the discussion, didn't get the sense that he had much inthe way of substantive input.
So, what were your thoguhts?
http://www.dietdetective.com/content/view/2422/82/
There's probably a better link, if anyone has it please post.
They sort of danced around the evolutionary aspect of diet without ever coming to specifics, which was maddening. I kept waiting for LC to come out as the proper diet form an evolutionary perspective. There was a lot of discussion about genetics versus environment, and one interesting point was that there is a feed-forward mechanism going on that sort of appears to be genetic, but isn't. Specifically, in utero a fetus is exposed to nutrition of the mother and is influenced, possibly for life. So a mother with diabetes, passes it on to her child through this influence in the womb. The child then does the same, creating a cycle that mimics inheritance.
David Ludwig was the proponent of a low carb diet, he calls it low glycemic index but he practices this and has seen the benefits in his own health. Apparently is the researcher who recently reported that people with a certain type of insulin response, do much better on a LC diet. His comment was that we may be able to do tests and prescribe individualized diet advice in the future. Not a bad idea, except that the LC diet was as good as low fat in the other group so why do you need to "individualize" a diet when one diet does show best results? He did write a book on nutrition in children which I might get because I think it lends validity to the way my wife and I are raising our kids. That is, not totally LC but much moreso than the way the average kid eats.
Marion Nestle was the same old tired diatribe of "eat well", which to her mind meant whole grains and watching fats. Guess you don't expect an old dog to learn new tricks.
Rudy Liebel was all about the money in my opinion. His idea was that once we understand more about the molecular mechanisms dealing with weight, then we might expect to come up with treatments. Yep, give him money to do research and eventually he'll come up with that magic pill. Ludwig did call him on that though, asking if he was prepared to medicate people starting at childhood, for life. Liebel of course sidestepped that, saying it wasn't for him to determine the ethical aspects. No, he justs need more funding.
Gina Kolata said she eats lots of pasta, so I basically think she is part of the problem not the solution. As a reporter, I don't expect much of her though.
Paul Nurse sort of led the discussion, didn't get the sense that he had much inthe way of substantive input.
So, what were your thoguhts?