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Robert Kar
Thu, Jun-21-07, 06:18
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Neanderthal Man Was An Innovator, Study Says

Neanderthal man was not as stupid as has been made out says a
new study = published by a University of Leicester
archaeologist.

In fact Neanderthals were far removed from their stereotypical
image and = were innovators, says Dr Terry Hopkinson of the
School of Archaeology = and Ancient History in a paper
published in Antiquity.=20

Neanderthals were the sister species of Homo sapiens, our own
species, = and inhabited Europe in the Middle Palaeolithic
period which began some = 300,000 years ago. This period has
widely been thought to have been = unremarkable and undramatic
in cultural or evolutionary terms.=20

Now Dr Hopkinson has challenged this notion and shown that it
does not = fit the archaeological evidence. He says early
Neanderthals were = devising new stone tool technologies and
also coming to terms with = ecological challenges that
defeated their immediate ancestors, Homo = heidelbergensis.=20

Conventional theories focus on tool innovation much later on
leading up = to the period when modern humans replaced
Neanderthals some 40,000 years = ago.=20

Dr Hopkinson said: "There has been a consensus that the modern
human = mind turned on like a light switch about 50,000 years
ago, only in = Africa. But many 'modern' traits like the use
of grind stones or big = game hunting began to accumulate in
Africa 300,000 years ago.=20

"It was the same in Europe with Neanderthals, there was a
gradual = accumulation of technology."=20

Not only did the Neanderthals combine old stone tool
technologies in = innovative ways to create new ways of
working stone, says Dr Hopkinson. = They also spread from
western Europe into areas of central and eastern = Europe
their forbears had been unable to settle.=20

"The eastern expansion shows that the Neanderthals became
capable of = managing their lives and their landscapes in
strongly seasonal = environments," said Dr Hopkinson.=20

Dr Hopkinson concludes:" Neanderthals have typically been
thought of as = incapable of innovation, as it was assumed to
be something unique to = Homo sapiens. With this evidence of
innovation it becomes difficult to = exclude Neanderthals from
the concept of humanity."=20

Source: University of Leicester
http://www.physorg.com/news101477918.html

Posted by Robert Karl Stonjek
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Day Brown
Thu, Jun-21-07, 06:18
On Jun 19, 8:38 pm, "Robert Karl Stonjek"
<ston...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> Neanderthal Man Was An Innovator, Study Says
>
> Neanderthal man was not as stupid as has been made out says
> a new study published by a University of Leicester
> archaeologist.
>
> In fact Neanderthals were far removed from their
> stereotypical image and were innovators, says Dr Terry
> Hopkinson of the School of Archaeology and Ancient History
> in a paper published in Antiquity.
>
> Neanderthals were the sister species of Homo sapiens, our
> own species, and inhabited Europe in the Middle Palaeolithic
> period which began some 300,000 years ago. This period has
> widely been thought to have been unremarkable and undramatic
> in cultural or evolutionary terms.
>
> Now Dr Hopkinson has challenged this notion and shown that
> it does not fit the archaeological evidence. He says early
> Neanderthals were devising new stone tool technologies and
> also coming to terms with ecological challenges that
> defeated their immediate ancestors, Homo heidelbergensis.
>
> Conventional theories focus on tool innovation much later on
> leading up to the period when modern humans replaced
> Neanderthals some 40,000 years ago.
>
> Dr Hopkinson said: "There has been a consensus that the
> modern human mind turned on like a light switch about 50,000
> years ago, only in Africa. But many 'modern' traits like the
> use of grind stones or big game hunting began to accumulate
> in Africa 300,000 years ago.
>
> "It was the same in Europe with Neanderthals, there was a
> gradual accumulation of technology."
>
> Not only did the Neanderthals combine old stone tool
> technologies in innovative ways to create new ways of
> working stone, says Dr Hopkinson. They also spread from
> western Europe into areas of central and eastern Europe
> their forbears had been unable to settle.
>
> "The eastern expansion shows that the Neanderthals became
> capable of managing their lives and their landscapes in
> strongly seasonal environments," said Dr Hopkinson.
>
> Dr Hopkinson concludes:" Neanderthals have typically been
> thought of as incapable of innovation, as it was assumed to
> be something unique to Homo sapiens. With this evidence of
> innovation it becomes difficult to exclude Neanderthals from
> the concept of humanity."
>
> Source: University of
> Leicesterhttp://www.physorg.com/news101477918.html
>
> Posted by Robert Karl Stonjek

It'd be interesting to see the dates of HNS remains and
occupation correlated with the particular climate at the time.
I read that the ice climate was much more variable, and the
dislocation and dieoffs of megafauna would have repeatedly
wiped out innovation.

Veritas
Sat, Jun-30-07, 06:16
On Jun 19, 8:38 pm, "Robert Karl Stonjek"
<ston...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> Neanderthal Man Was An Innovator, Study Says
>
> Neanderthal man was not as stupid as has been made out says
> a new study published by a University of Leicester
> archaeologist.
>
> In fact Neanderthals were far removed from their
> stereotypical image and were innovators, says Dr Terry
> Hopkinson of the School of Archaeology and Ancient History
> in a paper published in Antiquity.
>
> Neanderthals were the sister species of Homo sapiens, our
> own species, and inhabited Europe in the Middle Palaeolithic
> period which began some 300,000 years ago. This period has
> widely been thought to have been unremarkable and undramatic
> in cultural or evolutionary terms.
>
> Now Dr Hopkinson has challenged this notion and shown that
> it does not fit the archaeological evidence. He says early
> Neanderthals were devising new stone tool technologies and
> also coming to terms with ecological challenges that
> defeated their immediate ancestors, Homo heidelbergensis.
>
> Conventional theories focus on tool innovation much later on
> leading up to the period when modern humans replaced
> Neanderthals some 40,000 years ago.
>
> Dr Hopkinson said: "There has been a consensus that the
> modern human mind turned on like a light switch about 50,000
> years ago, only in Africa. But many 'modern' traits like the
> use of grind stones or big game hunting began to accumulate
> in Africa 300,000 years ago.
>
> "It was the same in Europe with Neanderthals, there was a
> gradual accumulation of technology."
>
> Not only did the Neanderthals combine old stone tool
> technologies in innovative ways to create new ways of
> working stone, says Dr Hopkinson. They also spread from
> western Europe into areas of central and eastern Europe
> their forbears had been unable to settle.
>
> "The eastern expansion shows that the Neanderthals became
> capable of managing their lives and their landscapes in
> strongly seasonal environments," said Dr Hopkinson.
>
> Dr Hopkinson concludes:" Neanderthals have typically been
> thought of as incapable of innovation, as it was assumed to
> be something unique to Homo sapiens. With this evidence of
> innovation it becomes difficult to exclude Neanderthals from
> the concept of humanity."
>
> Source: University of
> Leicesterhttp://www.physorg.com/news101477918.html
>
> Posted by Robert Karl Stonjek

This is directly conflicting with the Cambridge University
report of May 8th, 2007 saying that modern human had no DNA in
common with modern humans. Always get a different answer. Wish
we would come up with just one answer. K.W.

Veritas
Sat, Jun-30-07, 06:16
On Jun 20, 3:17 am, Day Brown <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote:
> On Jun 19, 8:38 pm, "Robert Karl Stonjek"
> <ston...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Neanderthal Man Was An Innovator, Study Says
>
> > Neanderthal man was not as stupid as has been made out
> > says a new study published by a University of Leicester
> > archaeologist.
>
> > In fact Neanderthals were far removed from their
> > stereotypical image and were innovators, says Dr Terry
> > Hopkinson of the School of Archaeology and Ancient History
> > in a paper published in Antiquity.
>
> > Neanderthals were the sister species of Homo sapiens, our
> > own species, and inhabited Europe in the Middle
> > Palaeolithic period which began some 300,000 years ago.
> > This period has widely been thought to have been
> > unremarkable and undramatic in cultural or evolutionary
> > terms.
>
> > Now Dr Hopkinson has challenged this notion and shown that
> > it does not fit the archaeological evidence. He says early
> > Neanderthals were devising new stone tool technologies and
> > also coming to terms with ecological challenges that
> > defeated their immediate ancestors, Homo heidelbergensis.
>
> > Conventional theories focus on tool innovation much later
> > on leading up to the period when modern humans replaced
> > Neanderthals some 40,000 years ago.
>
> > Dr Hopkinson said: "There has been a consensus that the
> > modern human mind turned on like a light switch about
> > 50,000 years ago, only in Africa. But many 'modern' traits
> > like the use of grind stones or big game hunting began to
> > accumulate in Africa 300,000 years ago.
>
> > "It was the same in Europe with Neanderthals, there was a
> > gradual accumulation of technology."
>
> > Not only did the Neanderthals combine old stone tool
> > technologies in innovative ways to create new ways of
> > working stone, says Dr Hopkinson. They also spread from
> > western Europe into areas of central and eastern Europe
> > their forbears had been unable to settle.
>
> > "The eastern expansion shows that the Neanderthals became
> > capable of managing their lives and their landscapes in
> > strongly seasonal environments," said Dr Hopkinson.
>
> > Dr Hopkinson concludes:" Neanderthals have typically been
> > thought of as incapable of innovation, as it was assumed
> > to be something unique to Homo sapiens. With this evidence
> > of innovation it becomes difficult to exclude Neanderthals
> > from the concept of humanity."
>
> > Source: University of
> > Leicesterhttp://www.physorg.com/news101477918.html
>
> > Posted by Robert Karl Stonjek
>
> It'd be interesting to see the dates of HNS remains and
> occupation correlated with the particular climate at the
> time. I read that the ice climate was much more variable,
> and the dislocation and dieoffs of megafauna would have
> repeatedly wiped out innovation.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

This is in direct conflict with a report issued by Cambridge
University on May 8th, 2007 thats says that Neanderthal had no
DNA in common with modern human. You would think someone could
decide. K.W.