Dr. Bernstein on TV

[Dodger]

I turned on the TV this morning and Dr. Bernstein was being interviewed on one of the local stations. He told of his history of diabetes, how he controlled it and that limiting carbs was very important. They then mentioned his book and the interview ended.

http://cw2.trb.com/news/local/morningnews/?track=nav

[Daryl]

Mike, thanks for that link! Always good to see (and hear) Dr B.

[dancinbr]

Mike, thanks for that link! Always good to see (and hear) Dr B.

Fantastic.

I am just wondering how long it will be before the book arrives.

I ordered it last week.

Still no book.

However, I am reading materials online.

Ralph

[Lisa N]

I gotta say, he looks darned good for a man who has been a type 1 diabetic for 60+ years. :thup:

[Daryl]

I gotta say, he looks darned good for a man who has been a type 1 diabetic for 60+ years. :thup:

Yep, he's an incredible inspiration.

[eddiemcm]

"they hung in the middle of the air then broke apart, in adagio, hands and hearts apart, no music at all..... it never stopped, in all the centuries, it never stopped."
Daryl
What is this all about??
Eddie

[RobLL]

I ordered his revised edition from Amazon and received it three days ago, maybe more. Lots of new information in it. And well worth rereading what was not revised.

[Daryl]

"they hung in the middle of the air then broke apart, in adagio, hands and hearts apart, no music at all..... it never stopped, in all the centuries, it never stopped."
Daryl
What is this all about??
Eddie

It's a quote (a pair of them, actually) from a writer named Charles Bukowski. I took the two parts, thought they sounded good together, and they're sad and beautiful, kind of how I see life, I suppose.

[dancinbr]

I think the fact that this gentleman, Dr. Bernstein, was an engineer (that was my busines in the very beginning of my career) and was dying and decided to empicially find out how he could get his BG levels down and succeeded is phenomenal. Then he couldn't publish !! So he went back to school and became and MD. This is awe inspiring. That way he can now share his experience and counsel with all of us.

How lucky we all are.

Ralph :thup:

[lizzyLC]

Thanks for the link.

[tregar]

long live Bukowski!!!

and the great dc. Bernstein!

[dina1957]

I gotta say, he looks darned good for a man who has been a type 1 diabetic for 60+ years. :thup:
I did see him on TV, but I think he looks his age. I did not know T1 makes one look older, I know few T1 and they actually all thin and look younger their age, and they do not follow LC diet.
JMO

[dina1957]

I think the fact that this gentleman, Dr. Bernstein, was an engineer (that was my busines in the very beginning of my career) and was dying and decided to empicially find out how he could get his BG levels down and succeeded is phenomenal. Then he couldn't publish !! So he went back to school and became and MD. This is awe inspiring. That way he can now share his experience and counsel with all of us.

How lucky we all are.

Ralph :thup:
Ralph,
T1 were dying mostly due to lack of glucose meters and crappy insulins. I would grant his decent health to the fact that he had access to glucose meter in time, and taking mater in his own hands by limiting carbs. He is a very intelligent person, no doubt, and to pull off medical school at 45 is not a piece of cake (no pun intendent), but with modern meters, array of insulins and insulin pumps, many T1 live healthy and long lives as well without severely limiting carbs.

[Lisa N]

I did see him on TV, but I think he looks his age. I did not know T1 makes one look older, I know few T1 and they actually all thin and look younger their age, and they do not follow LC diet.
JMO

Considering most T1's never make it to his age.... ;)

Even with insulin, juvenile diabetes usually results in a drastic reduction in quality of life and shortens the average life span by 15 years.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:KKGpqOG4mqsJ:www.jdrf.org/files/chapters_and_affiliates/greater_bay_area_chapter/Type%25201%2520Fact%2520Sheet%2520Feb2004.doc+average+lifespan+of+a+type+1+diabetic&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us

[dina1957]

Considering most T1's never make it to his age.... ;)
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May be because they are not MDs and have no access to all the extensive and expensive tests, right and good quality insulins, and some simply not complay with any diet. There is one (was) lady on Dr.B's forum, in her 80s, and she is T1 too. There are also things such as "brittle" diabetes in regards to T1.
I think poor controlled T2 die more often from diabetic complications then T1: kidney failure, heart desease, amputations.. but what is imporant is duration of the desease and when one was Dx. Cosider that most T1 get it at very young age, and most T2 40+ and even some 50+, I would say poorly controlled T2 can do lot of damage in short period of time.
JMO



http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:KKGpqOG4mqsJ:www.jdrf.org/files/chapters_and_affiliates/greater_bay_area_chapter/Type%25201%2520Fact%2520Sheet%2520Feb2004.doc+average+lifespan+of+a+type+1+diabetic&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us

[Lisa N]

I think poor controlled T2 die more often from diabetic complications then T1: kidney failure, heart desease, amputations..

Dina, you're free to believe whatever you wish but statistics and studies simply do not support your belief that Type 2's die earlier than type 1's, have more and earlier complications or that a T2 has it 'harder' in any way unless they are poorly controlled. A poorly controlled diabetic is a poorly controlled diabetic regardless of the state of their Beta cells and damage is damage in either.

http://patients.uptodate.com/topic.asp?file=diabetes/13432

Extensive studies in the Western world have demonstrated that diabetic patients with microalbuminuria have increased risk of progression to overt proteinuria, and after some time, renal failure. The progression of diabetic nephropathy from the appearance of clinical proteinuria to end stage renal failure is usually irreversible. Without any intervention, approximately 80% Type 1 patients with persistent microalbuminuria develop overt nephropathy after 10–15 years. Eventually 50% of these develop end stage renal failure within 10 years and 75% by 20 years [5]. In Type 2 diabetic patients, 20–40% with microalbuminuria progress to overt nephropathy and 20 years later, approximately 20% develop end stage renal failure [6].
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2369/8/2

[dina1957]

Dina, you're free to believe whatever you wish but statistics and studies simply do not support your belief that Type 2's die earlier than type 1's, have more and earlier complications or that a T2 has it 'harder' in any way unless they are poorly controlled. A poorly controlled diabetic is a poorly controlled diabetic regardless of the state of their Beta cells and damage is damage in either.

http://patients.uptodate.com/topic.asp?file=diabetes/13432


http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2369/8/2
I never said T2 has it harder than T1, it is cummilative damage, just T1 have earlier. I never doubt that relaying on injectable insulin is very hard, and hypoglycemic coma is quite real.
I said that T2 may have it for shorter period of time, and have a heart attack earler they some T1 than had it from childhood.

[ldypgmr]

Darn... couldn't find the link!

[penelope]

How many carbs does he recommend for breakfast? The book should be here next week.

[dina1957]

How many carbs does he recommend for breakfast? The book should be here next week.
6g for BF, 12 g for lunch and 12g for dinner. If weight loss is not an issue, then addditional 12g carbs can be added as a snack.
HTH

[penelope]

Thank you this explains a lot.
I usually had a 6 carbs breakfast, it just happened that way but in the last two weeks, I added 5 more carbs just trying to double up on some leftover cheese and egg it threw me into hunger for the rest of the day.

[eddiemcm]

"long live Bukowski!!!"
I hope you don't mean the author/drunk Charles Bukowski. Hard to live long when you're dead.You must be referring to another
Bukowski.
Eddie

[eddiemcm]

"Yep, he's an incredible inspiration."
Agreed.He looks darned fit for someone...
Darned,forgot his age.70's,I assume.
I think staying active and keeping the weight
down is a very good formula for aging well.
I have seen too many people retire,get out of
the ebb and flow of leading an active life and
die before they should.
Cheers from Houston
Eddie

[Daryl]

"Yep, he's an incredible inspiration."
Agreed.He looks darned fit for someone...
Darned,forgot his age.70's,I assume.
I think staying active and keeping the weight
down is a very good formula for aging well.
I have seen too many people retire,get out of
the ebb and flow of leading an active life and
die before they should.
Cheers from Houston
Eddie

Yes, just moving does good things for the body, Eddie. I think my sedentary lifestyle contributed almost as much to my diabetes as did my obesity and sugar intake.

[dina1957]

Yes, just moving does good things for the body, Eddie. I think my sedentary lifestyle contributed almost as much to my diabetes as did my obesity and sugar intake.
I can't agree more Dary, moving your body and avoiding processed sugars and junk, is the key to stay fit and be healthy. Keep also in mind that Dr.Bernstein is T1, and T1 are rarely overweight, most of them are slims.
But anyways, exercise is very important. Even Dr.B. does not like cardio, I believe cardio is great for carido fitness, even 30 minutes a day does wonders.:thup: WEight lifting is great too, but one does not substitute for another.:)
best,
D.

[Dodger]

Keep also in mind that Dr.Bernstein is T1, and T1 are rarely overweight, most of them are slims.
!00% of the T1s that I have known were overweight. One lost the excess weight when he started following Dr. Bernstein's advice.

[dina1957]

!00% of the T1s that I have known were overweight. One lost the excess weight when he started following Dr. Bernstein's advice.
If you read Dr.B's book, he stated that he was skinny "weakling" being T1 from age 12, and could not gain weight and muscles despite not being on a low carb diet back then. I don't have the book in front of me now, but I am sure those who read it can back it up. Many T1 following his plan have troubles with keeping weight on, since most of them are already slim.
100% T1 I have known are slim , and had troubles gaining weight and msucles. None of the followed VLC diet. I am not sure how many you know, I personally knew 8 ppl, both male and female, and few advanced age.
In addition, two of my DD college friends are T1, both guys in their early 20s, eat like horses, one on a pump, another one - injects. Both are skinny and laughed at me when I mentioned LC diet. One said: I struggle to keep my weight on and workout like a manic to gain some muscles, I can't afford to lose any more weight.
Could be those overweight T1 are actually very poor controlled T2 on insulin?
Just a thought. Not all injectable insulin is 100% bioviable, most of it is bounded and not active, so unless one's pnacrease still produces some insulin, and they inject a lot on a top, there is a slight chance to be overweight.
In any case, if your 100% T1 are overweight, and mine 100% is slim, what is the conclusion;)

[eddiemcm]

"But anyways, exercise is very important. Even Dr.B. does not like cardio, I believe cardio is great for carido fitness, even 30 minutes a day does wonders. WEight lifting is great too, but one does not substitute for another."
I agree.I do morning aerobics for health.
I do evening weightlifting because I like it.
I actually gained a few pounds from weightlifting(muscle weighs more than fat)
but lost a couple of inches from my waistline.
The search for Bukowski continues!
Eddie

[RobLL]

I actually gained a few pounds from weightlifting(muscle weighs more than fat) but lost a couple of inches from my waistline.
The search for Bukowski continues! Eddie

Eddie - you can even gain a few inches from weight lifting, quite a blow to my ego not to get down to 32 inch waist, but some muscles either side of lower back want some more space. I suspect this sort of thing depends upon ones particular shape.

[dancinbr]

!00% of the T1s that I have known were overweight. One lost the excess weight when he started following Dr. Bernstein's advice.

I have read the book and will read it many more times.

The only statement I can recall about overweight was when he talked about T2 diabetes.

I have it now. I have been overweight all my life and fighting it and losing.

I am also active; so I am somewhat an anomoly perhaps. I do aerobics and I workout. My goal is at least 2-3 times per week and sometimes more.

I get in trouble when I let the exercise lax.

Now, I must exercise if I expect to get my numbers below 100 and go for the target range of 85-95.

I am sustaining 100-120 right now. But I know I must get it down further. This is certainly an improvement versus my 250-350 all last year that I was totally unaware of.

I chart. I analyze. I see what carbs do to you.

I see what 6-12-12 does as well. It is the main item bringing my numbers down.

Most often I am still 30-60 carbs/day needing to get it down further. I know that. I even experiment now to see what a refined carb does.

A glass of milk and three oreo cookies and boom the BG goes to 170 and takes several hours to come back down.

If I keep to 6-12-12 I manage to stay around 110. I am hoping it will creep down further as I become more consistent and dedicated to the program.

Oh, yes I am overweight and that is an understatement. All belly.

I weight 285 now. I have dropped 12 pounds since February 2007. I am follow ing this lifestyle prescribed by Dr. B and it will pay off.

The statement I do remember about overweight is 80-90% of T2's are overweight.

Hope I helped here.

Ralph

[RobLL]

Hi Ralph - Like you I can stay in the 100-120 range fairly easy by tight carb control. Also like you I am not satisfied with that. Just got back from a fitness conference with really a lot of ideas on the weight lifting side, esp. on avoiding injuries and some new ideas of what no ought to be done. The nutrition side did n't have so much. Lot of the young guys need 4-6000 calories just to maintain skinniness! Jealousy. I am scheduled for a consult at U. Wash. in June, I think I need meds.

Good luck and congrats to you on your loss so far, and for living the active life. Incidentally our forum has one section let by a kid who is very overweight, losing it, and in college getting top notch credentials in the field. If you want to look at it I will post a link. Rob

[dancinbr]

Hi Ralph - Like you I can stay in the 100-120 range fairly easy by tight carb control. Also like you I am not satisfied with that. Just got back from a fitness conference with really a lot of ideas on the weight lifting side, esp. on avoiding injuries and some new ideas of what no ought to be done. The nutrition side did n't have so much. Lot of the young guys need 4-6000 calories just to maintain skinniness! Jealousy. I am scheduled for a consult at U. Wash. in June, I think I need meds.

Good luck and congrats to you on your loss so far, and for living the active life. Incidentally our forum has one section let by a kid who is very overweight, losing it, and in college getting top notch credentials in the field. If you want to look at it I will post a link. Rob

Sound good.

Post the link.

Thanks.

Ralph

[RobLL]

http://forums.jpfitness.com/forumdisplay.php?f=71

This is the James Newman section, but lots of good information throughout.

[dancinbr]

http://forums.jpfitness.com/forumdisplay.php?f=71

This is the James Newman section, but lots of good information throughout.

Well now I have even more to look at.

Thanks,

Ralph