Fats and Dairy and Weight Loss?

[Blue Apric]

Hello there, first my question:

1. Is it healthy to eat 1 hardboiled egg per day? (Egg white
and yolk.)
2. Is yogurt healthy, on a daily basis, as a dessert?
3. What about pitted Green Olives with pimentos in them as
snacks, daily?
4. Should I avoid cheese due to fat content?
5. Finally, are protein shakes ok, based on whey protein?

I am 37, 6'2 and 218 pounds. Over the last two months I have
lost 12 pounds and hope to continue with this, based on a diet
founded on fruits, vegetables, buts and protein. (You can read
about my diet here: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.nu-
trition/browse_frm/thread/bfee9ab1e6095744/02cc05f02a097872?l-
nk=st&q=author%3Ablueapricot416%40gmail.com&rnum=1) but one
thing I have added in the mornings is a high fiber cereal, as
well as the 4 items above.)

For the eggs, I like to cook them up every Sunday and then
have them in the fridge for a snack, one per day. But I have
read that eating so many eggs -- at least the yolks -- may be
a bad idea?

For the yogurt, I am using plain Stonyfield Farm organic
yogurt, which I add some frozen berries to.

I am wondering if eating all of this fatty dairy stuff, and
the olives, is going to stop me from losing weight? The thing
is, over the past two months of steadily losing weight, I have
been craving dairy like never before. And in fact I think I
just want to have the protein shakes because of the skimmed
milk I make them with!

Thanks for your thoughts, Blue Apricot

[Juhana Har]

Blue Apricot wrote:
: Hello there, first my question:
:
: 1. Is it healthy to eat 1 hardboiled egg per day? (Egg white
: and yolk.)
: 2. Is yogurt healthy, on a daily basis, as a dessert?
: 3. What about pitted Green Olives with pimentos in them as
: snacks, daily?
: 4. Should I avoid cheese due to fat content?
: 5. Finally, are protein shakes ok, based on whey protein?
:
: I am 37, 6'2 and 218 pounds. Over the last two months I have
: lost 12 pounds and hope to continue with this, based on a
: diet founded on fruits, vegetables, buts and protein. (You
: can read about my diet here:
:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.nutrition/browse_frm/t-
hread/bfee9ab1e6095744/02cc05f02a097872?lnk=st&q=author%3Ablu-
eapricot416%40gmail.com&rnum=1)
: but one thing I have added in the mornings is a high fiber
: cereal, as well as the 4 items above.)
:
: For the eggs, I like to cook them up every Sunday and then
: have them in the fridge for a snack, one per day. But I have
: read that eating so many eggs -- at least the yolks -- may
: be a bad idea?
:
: For the yogurt, I am using plain Stonyfield Farm organic
: yogurt, which I add some frozen berries to.
:
: I am wondering if eating all of this fatty dairy stuff, and
: the olives, is going to stop me from losing weight? The
: thing is, over the past two months of steadily losing
: weight, I have been craving dairy like never before. And in
: fact I think I just want to have the protein shakes because
: of the skimmed milk I make them with!

There is some epidemiological evidence that low fat dairy
helps in weight control. Whey protein is fine also.

--
Juhana

[monty1945]

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studies, and also how to evaulate evidence in general.

[Enrico C]

On 12 Mar 2007 18:54:52 -0700, Blue Apricot wrote:

> 1. Is it healthy to eat 1 hardboiled egg per day? (Egg white
> and yolk.)

I guess it depends on the person and on their diet. Some
people are more "sensitive" to egg consumption, others are
less sensitive.

For instance http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0887/-
is_n2_v17/ai_20845501

> 2. Is yogurt healthy, on a daily basis, as a dessert?

Provided it's unsugared plain yogurt, I'd say...

> 3. What about pitted Green Olives with pimentos in them as
> snacks, daily?

Kudos to olives, but, mind you, they can be quite salty.

> 4. Should I avoid cheese due to fat content?

I guess it depends on the person, and on their diet and
exercise.

> 5. Finally, are protein shakes ok, based on whey protein?

Dunno. I like better real food.

> I am 37, 6'2 and 218 pounds.

Hang on, I'll look for a metric converter :-)

> Over the last two months I have lost 12 pounds and hope to
> continue with this, based on a diet founded on fruits,
> vegetables, buts

I'll take that for "nuts" :-)

> and protein. (You can read about my diet here: http://gro-
> ups.google.com/group/sci.med.nutrition/browse_frm/thread/-
> bfee9ab1e6095744/02cc05f02a097872?lnk=st&q=author%3Abluea-
> pricot416%40gmail.com&rnum=1) but one thing I have added
> in the mornings is a high fiber cereal, as well as the 4
> items above.)
>
> For the eggs, I like to cook them up every Sunday and then
> have them in the fridge for a snack, one per day. But I have
> read that eating so many eggs -- at least the yolks -- may
> be a bad idea?
>
> For the yogurt, I am using plain Stonyfield Farm organic
> yogurt, which I add some frozen berries to.
>
> I am wondering if eating all of this fatty dairy stuff, and
> the olives, is going to stop me from losing weight?

The scale and the mirror will sure tell you! :-)

> The thing is, over the past two months of steadily losing
> weight, I have been craving dairy like never before. And in
> fact I think I just want to have the protein shakes because
> of the skimmed milk I make them with!
>
> Thanks for your thoughts, Blue Apricot

Just my 2 eurocents. :-)

[Ron Peters]

On Mar 12, 8:54 pm, "Blue Apricot"
<blueapricot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello there, first my question:

> 1. Is it healthy to eat 1 hardboiled egg per day? (Egg white
> and yolk.)

Sure.

> 2. Is yogurt healthy, on a daily basis, as a dessert?

As Enrico C says, do it without the sugar. The yogurt might
have lower levels of lactose than the equivalent milk which is
good for some people.

> 3. What about pitted Green Olives with pimentos in them as
> snacks, daily?

The sodium content may be high, so keep the quantity down.

> 4. Should I avoid cheese due to fat content?

Try to get reduced fat or nonfat cheeses.

> 5. Finally, are protein shakes ok, based on whey protein?

Sure, but lactose is high in whey, so keep the quantity down.

> I am 37, 6'2 and 218 pounds. Over the last two months I have
> lost 12 pounds and hope to continue with this, based on a
> diet founded on fruits, vegetables, buts and protein. (You
> can read about my diet here:http://groups.google.com/group/-
> sci.med.nutrition/browse_frm/thread/bf...) but one thing I
> have added in the mornings is a high fiber cereal, as well
> as the 4 items above.)

You might want to consider adding beans to your diet.

> For the eggs, I like to cook them up every Sunday and then
> have them in the fridge for a snack, one per day. But I have
> read that eating so many eggs -- at least the yolks -- may
> be a bad idea?

Egg yolks contain other nutrients that egg whites don't have.

> I am wondering if eating all of this fatty dairy stuff, and
> the olives, is going to stop me from losing weight? The
> thing is, over the past two months of steadily losing
> weight, I have been craving dairy like never before. And in
> fact I think I just want to have the protein shakes because
> of the skimmed milk I make them with!

Too much calcium can cause problems like kidney stones. Four
glasses a day should be sufficient. Count an ounce of cheese
as a glass of milk.

--
Ron

[Enrico C]

On 16 Mar 2007 21:39:11 -0700, Ron Peterson wrote:

> Too much calcium can cause problems like kidney stones.

Can it? I gather that's controversial, to say the least.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1585/is_n8_v22/a-
i_19539857

| Calcium and kidney stones - recent studies dispel the notion
| that a diet high in calcium contributes to the formation of
| kidney stones - Brief Article
|
| Harvard Health Letter, June, 1997
|
| It was long thought that a diet high in calcium contributed
| to the development of kidney stones because up to 80% of the
| deposits contain calcium. The stones, which can cause
| excruciating pain, often become lodged in the kidneys or in
| the ureters, the tubes that carry urine to the bladder.
|
| In 1993, scientists were surprised to learn that previous
| assumptions about the mineral were wrong. A large study
| found that men who ate the most dietary calcium were
| actually the least likely to develop stones. Now, a similar
| investigation of women shows comparable results.
|
| When Harvard researchers examined the diets of 91,731 women
| over a 12-year period they found that those who ate the most
| dairy products decreased their risk of developing kidney
| stones by 35%. However, women who took calcium supplements
| were 20% more likely to form the stones.
|
| Scientists suspect the differences may be related to
| calcium's interaction with oxalate, an acid found in
| peanuts, chocolate, spinach, and other foods. Like calcium,
| oxalate is a major constituent of stones; but when calcium
| and oxalates are eaten together, they combine in the
| intestine and are excreted in the stool. Because supplements
| are often taken between meals, there is no available oxalate
| in the gut for the calcium to bind to.
|
| Researchers don't know whether dietary calcium prevents
| kidney stones because dairy products are generally eaten
| with other foods or if there is some substance in milk
| products that is protective. Because kidney stones are
| uncommon in women, there is no reason for most of them to
| stop taking supplements. But those who have had kidney
| stones in the past should discuss the use of supplements
| with their doctor. (Annals of Internal Medicine, April 1,
| 1997, pp. 497-504.)
|
| COPYRIGHT 1997 Copyright by President and Fellows of Harvard
| College. All Rights Reserved COPYRIGHT 2004 Gale Group