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Trinsdad
Wed, Mar-07-07, 17:15
Make sure to note Dean Ornish's over exaggerated "cry baby" remark. :lol:


http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/diet.fitness/03/07/diet.atkins.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories


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• Atkins diet beats Zone, Ornish diet and U.S. government guidelines in new study
• Atkins loss was about 10 pounds in 12 months, vs 3.5 pounds for Zone dieters
• Atkins dieters lost average 13 pounds at six months, then most began regaining
• Study not fair, critics say; by end, few were following any of the diets very strictly
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CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- The low-carb, high-fat Atkins diet gets high marks in one of the biggest, longest head-to-head studies of popular weight-loss plans, beating the Zone, the Ornish diet and even U.S. government guidelines.

Even so, critics say the results show how hard it is to lose weight and keep it off.

Overweight women on the Atkins plan lost more weight over a year than those on the low-carb Zone diet. And they had slightly better blood pressure and cholesterol readings than those on the Zone; the very low-fat, high-carb Ornish diet, and a low-fat, high-carb diet similar to government guidelines.

Stanford University researcher Christopher Gardner, the lead author, said the study shows that Atkins may be more healthful than critics contend.

But the study is not a fair comparison because by the end, few women were following any of the diets very strictly, critics argue, although those in the Atkins group came the closest.

The study "had a good concept and incredibly pathetic execution," said Zone diet creator Barry Sears.

"It's a lot easier to follow a diet that tells you to eat bacon and brie than to eat predominantly fruits and vegetables," said Dr. Dean Ornish, creator of the Ornish diet.

Atkins followers lost about 10 pounds on average at 12 months, versus 3.5 pounds for the Zone dieters.

Women on the Ornish diet lost almost 5 pounds on average and those on the national guidelines plan lost almost 6 pounds. Scientifically, those 12-month results were not different enough from the Atkins weight loss to rule out the possibility the differences occurred by chance.

The dieters lost the most weight early on, including an average of 13 pounds for the Atkins group at six months -- nearly double the closest competitor, the national guidelines diet. After that, most began regaining weight, a trend most noticeable in the Atkins women.

With an average starting weight of about 189 pounds, even losing 13 pounds meant many women remained overweight.

"There's not a ton of weight loss here," Gardner acknowledged. Atkins "isn't the solution for the obesity problem," he said.

The study involved 311 women about 40 years old on average and was designed to measure the effectiveness of using a diet book to lose weight. Women were randomly assigned to read one of four diet books. They attended weekly classes for eight weeks where diet questions were addressed, but then were mostly on their own for the next 10 months.

At the end, Atkins women had slightly higher levels of HDL cholesterol, the good kind, and slightly lower blood pressure than those on the other three diets. Gardner said differences in weight loss most likely contributed to those results.

Ornish and other naysayers argued that the study does not answer a big question about the Atkins diet -- whether consistently eating all that fatty food long-term leads to health problems.

The study appears in Wednesday's Journal of the American Medical Association.

The authors said it's uncertain whether the results would apply to men or older women since none were studied.

The study "shows that nothing works very well," said Yale University food policy researcher Kelly Brownell. His book promoting diet and lifestyle changes similar to national guidelines was used in the study.

"To me, it just screams out for the need to prevent obesity," Brownell said.

The results echo a Harvard study published last year involving thousands of women, which also suggested that a low-carb high-fat diet might be more heart-healthy than previously thought, although it relied on women's memories of what they had eaten over two decades.

Also, those who ate fat and carbs from vegetables rather than animal sources had lower heart disease risks in the Harvard study.

Dr. David Katz of the Yale Prevention Research Center and author of several weight-control books, said the new study presents little new information and called it "much ado about nothing."

Nurse Jackie Eberstein, whose consulting company promotes the Atkins diet, said the results are not surprising. Protein makes people feel less hungry and fat helps them feel more full, which makes weight loss easier on Atkins, she said.

The study was funded by grants from the National Institutes of Health and from the Community Foundation of Southeastern Michigan.

JL53563
Wed, Mar-07-07, 17:50
"There's not a ton of weight loss here," Gardner acknowledged. Atkins "isn't the solution for the obesity problem," he said.


And apparently Ornish, The Zone, and the government guidlines are even less of a solution!

talkercise
Wed, Mar-07-07, 19:13
I saw this on the news and I knew it would be posted here thankyou!
I haven't lost much doing low carb but my health numbers are good and I haven't gained weight since I started either.
and since I will soon be 68 it is the numbers that mean something to me and not gaining is very important.
With low fat guidelines I gained 10 lbs a year and my HDL got lower! NOT GOOD. my LDL stayed the same.
So I am still trying to loose but being healthy is what it is really about.
Helen

pbowers
Wed, Mar-07-07, 19:23
already a thread on this...

TarHeel
Wed, Mar-07-07, 19:30
Already MULTIPLE threads on this...does no one ever read before they post?

ValerieL
Wed, Mar-07-07, 20:31
"It's a lot easier to follow a diet that tells you to eat bacon and brie than to eat predominantly fruits and vegetables," said Dr. Dean Ornish, creator of the Ornish diet.

EXACTLY!

And that's the whole point! And since they've just proved it's as healthy or healthier than your diet, Doctor, why would anyone want to eat the ridiculously spartan and tasteless Ornish diet?

Get a clue, man.

Trinsdad
Thu, Mar-08-07, 10:23
Delete the thread then. :lol:

jande2211
Thu, Mar-08-07, 13:34
I think one more thread for such nice news is fine. It's not like we're tawkin constipation here.

JL53563
Thu, Mar-08-07, 13:52
EXACTLY!

And that's the whole point! And since they've just proved it's as healthy or healthier than your diet, Doctor, why would anyone want to eat the ridiculously spartan and tasteless Ornish diet?

Get a clue, man.

Right Valerie. It works the best, is easiest to follow, and has been proven safe. Why in the world would anybody want to follow a diet like that? :lol: