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Demi
Mon, Feb-26-07, 02:53
The Mail
London, UK
Published: 22 February, 2007



Why you can never be fat and happy

by ANNE DIAMOND

A year has passed since I walked out of ITV's Celebrity Fit Club - shocked by the vindictiveness of my fellow contestants and the so-called experts when they found I'd had a gastric band fitted.

During eight years of being overweight and a public battle with the bulge, I had grown used to society's patronising attitude to fat.

But that experience 12 months ago compounded everything I had feared about what it's like to be fat in a fattist society, and the abuse an overweight person attracts.

Since then, I have lost four stone and dropped five dress sizes, but more importantly I have regained my self-esteem.

Just how much was brought home to me this week when I read of another miserable former fatty's experience. Writer India Knight, who has shed five stone and just written a book about it, recalled my memories of how gaining - and losing - weight can transform your personality.

Her descriptions of the way fat people, although occupying a great deal of physical space, actually become 'invisible' - to the shop assistants who stare through them to the men who pretend you don't exist - made me realise that the best thing I ever did to lose weight and keep it off was to stop beating myself up about it.

Being overweight affected every single day of my life. It isn't easy starting the day with a smile when all you can pull on is a pair of size 22 stretch black trousers and a T-shirt that could shelter a dozen earthquake victims.

You feel wretched. When you displace all the water in the bath and no towel will wrap around you, you feel utterly exposed.

That's when a little bit of you dies. A friend, who's a company chief executive, told me that for her the worst was when she was preparing the boardroom for a meeting and a new young secretary came in and told her to empty the bins - she assumed my friend was the cleaning lady because she was fat.

It shouldn't - but fat demeans you, even in your own eyes.

As I got larger, I stopped going out as much. I would still take my children swimming, but I'd watch them from the poolside instead of getting in and splashing around with them. I would book beach holidays in places where I hoped no one would know me.

Being snapped in my 'magic' swimming costume (which was so elasticated that it took 20 minutes to pull on and was impossible to peel off when wet) and seeing my picture in the papers terrified me.

I was already divorced, but it is at this stage that many people turn away from their partner, and turn instead to the fridge. Outside my family, the closest relationship I had was with a packet of Hobnobs.

When you're fat, you dread getting dressed in the mornings because you hate all your fat clothes, and you dread going to bed at night feeling a failure because you've eaten a Malteser.

But I never thought of myself as depressed - I was certainly never outwardly so. I know many fatties with outgoing, positive personalities who are high-achievers.

But looking back, I wonder if maybe I wasn't a bit depressed. I call it 'fat depression': being experts are patronising.

No wonder we end up hating ourselves. No wonder we conclude we're stupid, lazy slobs. Because those words go together, don't they?

Fat, lazy and stupid. I thought I must be stupid for having a weight problem after ten years of yo-yo dieting.

One obesity specialist I spoke to in Australia (where 47 per cent of women and 63 per cent of men are seriously overweight or obese) says that, by the time they see him in his clinic, people are so damaged by society that they are almost impossible to help.

They say: -Doctor, I feel ashamed to be here. I can't lose weight — I am fat, lazy and stupid."

Another weight-loss doctor in the U.S. (where 58 million are overweight, 40 million obese and three million morbidly obese) won't accept people for treatment inwardly miserable about myself, which made me even fatter.

It's hardly surprising that we hate ourselves when we put on weight. It's the last permitted prejudice. Newspaper headlines and TV shows still laugh at fat, in a manner that would break the law if it were about Aids sufferers or alcoholics, gamblers or drug addicts.

So-called diet and fitness unless they have a support system: friends and family who will help them.

A surgeon from Brazil (where obesity and malnutrition are huge problems) told me he dealt with seriously overweight children who believe - and have done since they were toddlers - that they are lazy and stupid because they are fat.

Yet, he said, after gastric bypass operations, these same children lost weight and discovered they loved running around like other kids. They were ordinary after all.

In Britain (where one in four women and one in five men are seriously overweight or obese), we live in a culture that's almost toxic to a healthy lifestyle. We're peddled, through advertising, stuff that's bad for us, and then we're harangued for eating and drinking it.

Nearly every country in the world is experiencing malnutrition and obesity epidemics.

Given that governments are not going to tackle the problems with effective policies, perhaps we have to learn to put ourselves - our bodies - first. And to do this we have to like our own bodies.

After all, it affects everything we do: the way we look, the way we live our lives and particularly the way we feel. If it suffers, so do we.

For someone who used to be called "the elfin queen of breakfast TV" in the Eighties, it was torture to spend nearly ten years of my life trying to camouflage my weight.

I had always loved clothes, wearing tiny jackets, fitted waistcoats and hip-hugging jeans. Those delights morphed gradually - yet with sinister ease — into elasticated waistbands and stretch fabrics that I kidded myself looked 'slimming'. In fact, all of those fabrics looked ghastly.

It got to the point where I wouldn't even pop to the local shop without a 'magic' girdle on - built of tough Lycra designed to push you in, from bust to bum.

But, miraculous though they seem, where does all your fat go? Inwards, where your organs are meant to be. You realise this as soon as you try to breathe.

You can deny the truth for only so long - at some point, you have to face up to it and that's when many fatties start to hate themselves.

I used to look in the bathroom mirror and despair. Never mind shaving or waxing my bikini line - I couldn't even see it.

Try painting your toenails when you have three folds of stomach in the way. It's not funny when you live this way.

I'd lost the same four stone four times. I'd spent most of my 40s yo-yo dieting. At 15 stone 10lb, I thought I'd never beat it and would become a fat old lady.

I was beginning to have aches and pains generally suffered by the overweight: niggling backaches, swollen ankles at night, breathlessness and high blood pressure.

Was I going to develop diabetes? Was I increasing my risk of cancer? Would I keel over from a heart attack or stroke? Was I going to die before my time?

That's when I realised how important your body is; it's your life. You can't be a mother, wife or career woman if your body is compromised.

I stopped beating myself up about my weight and resolved to take action.

It's a question of priorities, isn't it? I went through a time where so many other factors took precedence - surviving two devastating bereavements (my son and father), a divorce, becoming a single mum of four and balancing my life and career - and my body, my self, was no longer a priority.

I realised I would be no good to anybody if I were dead. That's why I opted for surgery. It's not for everyone, but it was for me. Apart from an unfortunate incident in Belgium where the gastric band operation went wrong (it had to be remedied in Britain), I have not looked back.

Even the BMA has recognised that telling people to 'just eat less and exercise more' is ineffective, which is why, in a few months' time, I will be speaking at a conference of GPs about my experiences.

Recently, I also took a health and weight-loss show on tour - to pass on my message to thousands of men and women who are concerned about their weight. I've become patron of The Obesity Awareness And Solutions Trust (TOAST) to help find solutions for them.

One member of my weight loss website, www.FatHappens.com, has lost 15 stone in two years. She has also lost her husband and a great many old friends.

She admits it has changed her in ways she is still struggling to understand. Her husband felt threatened by her new, confident, outgoing personality, and at 40, she wanted to live the raucous 20s she'd never had.

India Knight says she was shocked to be vilified by other writers as 'vain and stupid' for being an intelligent woman so desperate to lose weight. I hope she understands that the stupidity was with her critics.

Like me, the misery of being fat impacted on everything and everyone around her. She says she felt the need to be a 'jolly' fat person with a nifty line in self-deprecating jokes. We all deserve better than that.

I understand how devastating it is to be seriously overweight, and how liberating it is to shed the problem and feel healthy again. It is like getting your life back.

There is a risk, though: you may discover you have a personality that's been repressed for years.

It's amazing how quickly my personality bounced back. I started accepting invitations. Restaurants became a delight again, instead of a dread about falling off the diet wagon. Buying clothes became a pleasure, rather than a nightmare.

Just walking - not only did I feel sprightlier, but I held up my head again and felt proud facing the world. I redecorated the house, bought a new car. I started to live again.

Weight weighs you down in so many more ways than just gravity. It ages you - mentally and physically. A year on, people say I look younger. One woman asked me where I'd had my face-lift. I haven't had one, by the way. But if I need to, I just might.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=437775&in_page_id=1879

Bat Spit
Mon, Feb-26-07, 08:28
Eleanor Roosevelt said it best. "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."

potatofree
Mon, Feb-26-07, 09:11
Dang. I forgot to hang my head in shame this morning. :rolleyes:

2bthinner!
Mon, Feb-26-07, 10:42
I'm more frustrated with supposedly "learned" people, ie doctors, whose short answer to me is "You simply eat too much". Sorry, that's not the case. And they don't listen to any different. If they don't think I'm actively lying to them, they think I'm lying to myself. I've tracked every bite I eat. And so, my DH, who KNOWS I don't eat "too much" falls back on "you're not active enough". :help: Either way, according to them, it's my own fault. It's hard when the people who should help you are like, "Well, you have to help yourself" Here's a phamplet. Have McDonald's for breakfast.. No, really. I should have saved it. It was a diabetic (though I haven't been diagnosed with diabetes :confused: ) phamplet. And it showed what you could eat at McDonald's. I'm thinking, this doctor didn't hear a word I said. Not one word. :help:

ysabella
Mon, Feb-26-07, 10:59
I wish some of these column writers would realize that they only speak for themselves. :rolleyes:

KvonM
Mon, Feb-26-07, 11:02
sooo... i should go tell my fiance that since i'm overweight, i'm not allowed to be happy and be loved for who i am, not the body i'm in, and therefore he needs to start treating me like garbage until i get skinny enough to be "worthy" of happiness?

I'm more frustrated with supposedly "learned" people, ie doctors, whose short answer to me is "You simply eat too much". Sorry, that's not the case. And they don't listen to any different.
i had a plastic surgeon tell me this about a year or so after my kids were born. i could see the insane amount of damage they'd done to me, and i knew it wasn't going to go away without surgical help. i told him the story, he very callously and off-handedly told me to go lose 30lbs, then come back and talk to him. it was too much trouble for him to do a tummy-tuck right then. he said "just cut back 20% on what you eat." the guy honestly thought i sat at home all day on the couch eating chocolate bonbons while the kids rolled around on the floor.

i walked out of that doctor's office feeling like i was the size of my car, and i cried all the way home.

2bthinner!
Mon, Feb-26-07, 11:57
KvonM
He shouldn't be a doctor. I am so sorry he did that. Not what you need when you've just had babies. They just have no clue.

betnich
Mon, Feb-26-07, 12:35
Ah, the old canard - "gaining - and losing - weight can transform your personality". Sorry, but it takes more than a smaller clothes size to change one's outlook on life.

Try substituting an oppressed minority group every time the word "fat" appears and you will see how patronizing and stupid the tone of this article is.

Is anyone else getting sick and tired of this?

love-kills
Mon, Feb-26-07, 13:13
Yikes. O_o
(+_<)
That's all I gotta say.

unitydkn
Mon, Feb-26-07, 13:49
I went to the "specialist" last month..with DH to back me up... and he said "eat less and move more"..I said "I have kept track &am only eating 600 cals"...he said "you cannot eat that little and mantain your curant weight"...I said "I have for 2 years"...DH backed me up but doc would not beleive me...
I have doubled my cals..all in fat and cut out carbs and have lost a pant size....I go to see him on friday..I still think he won't believe me that I am eating twice the cals,60+%fat and losing weight

j13
Mon, Feb-26-07, 14:25
Wow, it's weird to me that it seems like this article hit me *entirely* differently than everyone else. It resonated very strongly with me in terms of trying to survive in society when you're treated like garbage by most people you meet simply because you're obese. Which (for me, at least), was TOTALLY true. One of the hardest things for me to deal with since losing a fair chunk of weight has been dealing with NOT being treated that way at all times by everyone, and learning how to deal with the world in a new way. I took the article as being sympathetic to the plight of the obese. It didn't say, imo, that you'd SHOULDN'T be happy when you're overweight, it explained a lot of the reasons why it can be really, really hard to be happy - because of how you're treated and how that in turn affects your self-esteem. That resonated with me, particularly because there was no point in my entire life until the past year when I *wasn't* the fattest person I knew, so I had never been treated any way but badly. Now that I've lost and I'm more "normal" looking, even if I'm not yet svelt, it's like there were two societies in the world and I've just been introduced to the other one. That fact raises lots of resentments, questions and issues, and I felt like *that* was what the article was talking about. I didn't feel at all like the article was advocating that fat people *should* feel badly at all.

-j.

highsteaks
Mon, Feb-26-07, 14:42
It didn't say, imo, that you'd SHOULDN'T be happy when you're overweight, it explained a lot of the reasons why it can be really, really hard to be happy - because of how you're treated and how that in turn affects your self-esteem. [...]I didn't feel at all like the article was advocating that fat people *should* feel badly at all.

-j.

j,
This article resonated with me in similar ways. I think the title - "Why you can NEVER be fat and happy" (emphasis mine) - is unnecessarily extreme. I read it more as: here are all the ways society makes it difficult for those who are overweight to be happy.

I realize that I am not what I weigh and it does take more than a change in clothing size to transform a personality. I also know how much easier going about the world is at a smaller size, and how much better I feel in my own skin. I can paint my toenails - it's trivial, but it didn't feel so trivial when I was blocked from doing so by my stomach rolls.

I think it's right to point out that society is pretty unfair to fat people. I feel more comfortable tucking into food with gusto now, because I'm not being eyed with disapproval. Yes, that disapproval shouldn't be there in the first place, but I'm also not going to deny feeling happier now that I "fit in".

However, I think part of the happiness also has nothing to do with society or meeting others' expectations. I'm also happy that my knees hurt less, that I can run without getting winded, that my headaches have stopped and my hips don't hurt. I feel like I'm being kinder to my body than ever and that, more than a number on a scale or a number on a label or the acceptance of a fickle and prejudiced society, makes me happy.

ysabella
Mon, Feb-26-07, 14:55
I guess we all have different experiences. I don't live in this cloud of negativity and despair she describes, and her way of saying it seems to imply that everyone feels it. I'm larger than she ever was, too. While I want to lose bodyfat, I don't think it is the singular key to happiness for me, personally.

It may be because I have always been fat, while she was skinny and then became fat. That could explain our different points of view. If I had been admired for my figure and then lost it, I might have some bitterness about that.

LilithD
Mon, Feb-26-07, 15:29
I wonder how useful male doctors are to women, from the comments above. Clearly, they just don't have a CLUE how hormones really affect our fat-saving. Cavemen understood: look at the prehistoric 'venus' images. Cavemen knew and admired that easily-gained childbearing-related fat.

kyrasdad
Mon, Feb-26-07, 17:25
It may be because I have always been fat, while she was skinny and then became fat. That could explain our different points of view. If I had been admired for my figure and then lost it, I might have some bitterness about that.

I'm like you - I've always been fat and I'm like her in that it permeated everything about me. When I lost about 100 pounds, I had this amazing feeling of liberation. People either treated me differently or I thought they did. Is it that people respect you more when you're not as fat, or does your own esteem do that for you? If you (and others) feel that way, it could just be the different in how we feel about ourselves. Much as I hate to admit it, I let them dictate at least some of my self esteem and happiness.

Everything is better thin than it was fat, for me. I thought I was happy when I was much fatter, but I wasn't. It really has made a huge difference for me.

potatofree
Mon, Feb-26-07, 18:27
I used to be thin and I do remember what it was like to have men look at me for my figure. It was indeed a powerful feeling to walk around feeling that particular brand of confidence. Until someone snickered and whispered "slut", then I wanted to hide.

I also remember how lonely and moserable it was to be treated like an object. The men who were attracted to my body seemed genuinely SHOCKED that I could string together enough words to communicate, let alone have opinions of my OWN.

As I grew, in age... and unfortunately in girth, I grew up. I don't know whether my age or size is a bigger influence on how I look back and realize how much power I handed over to others.

I've heard the whispers and outright taunts of "fatty" and "Omigawd! Look at the size of HER!". They hurt less than "slut" ever did, because I can see more clearly now that the insults come from THEIR flaw, not mine.

I have an inner peace, and yes...happiness... I didn't have then. It comes not from size (or lack thereof) but from having spent another two decades in this body and learning to LIKE the person I've become.

So while it bugs me that people can't see that it's possible to be a whole, happy person in this skin, it won't define who I am. If they need so badly to think that everyone needs to lose weight to know true happiness in order to validate themselves, they're welcome to it.

TarHeel
Mon, Feb-26-07, 18:32
I've been waiting for Kyrasdad to chime in on this. Thanks, Scott. I always appreciate your honest perspective.

How's Kyra, by the way?

Kay

j13
Mon, Feb-26-07, 20:38
I pretty much agree with Kyrasdad, but I also feel like I have to say this: I used to say the same kinds of things about my self-worth not being dictated by other people, and I think it was true. I think that I'm a way stronger person than 99% of the people I've known because of how much I've had to go through. I mean, you can look at my before pictures and it's painfully obvious - I got the bad treatment. You can't be that big and NOT get it. And, when I put my mind to something, I am one tenacious SOB. While trying not to be trite, I have to say that I honestly think that there's this part of my soul that's cut out of steel, because it had to be to get through that. Physically I was a mess, and I had to put up with a LOT of outward torment. So I'm not saying that you're self-worth has to be determined by your weight - not at all. I think a lot of your self worth can be demonstrated by the mere fact that you survived, and especially if you're on this board, because it means you've struggled.

But, that said - it just can not be denied that your life is more miserable when you're fat. It is not fun to be taunted. It is not fun to be physically attacked. It is not fun to be treated as a non-entity. NOT having those things happen to you - it just makes life easier. And when you're (very) overweight, people really treat you very, very badly - it is NOT just a matter of having more self-esteem. I noticed it before I saw myself as being any different. People start to look you in the eye. Members of the opposite sex talk to you. You don't get stared at by children while their parents use you as an example of what not to be. People don't come up to you and make remarks when you're riding on a train or sitting in a bar. People don't judge you when you try to sit in a booth or groan when you end up sitting next to them at a ballgame or on a plane. And to deny that, imo, is just completely nonsensical. This is why the article resonated with me - because it feels to me like they were talking about how hard it is to be happy when you are treated that way by society. So, regardless of whether or not you feel that your self-worth is tied into your weight, your quality of life really, definitely is. Perhaps not if you're 15 lbs overweight or the like, but when you're coming from the point of view of someone who's been 100+ lbs overweight, it really is. So maybe it's not that "you can never be fat and happy" - I don't think that that's the case. I found friends and moments of happiness, even at my highest weight. But I was also constantly knocked down whenever I went outside of that little world I'd created for myself. So maybe it's better written that "being very fat is a major obstruction to happiness."

-j.

Snacky
Mon, Feb-26-07, 20:55
She is right, I have gained and lost weight and the confidence level goes with it ( dealing with women especially).

ysabella
Mon, Feb-26-07, 22:46
I couldn't say, since I've never been thin. Maybe I'll suddenly be treated differently if I ever get there.

I think I'll be the same person, though.

bkloots
Tue, Feb-27-07, 04:57
I so appreciate reading the thoughts of those of you who have endured the social stigma of being very heavy. So little compassion is extended to you, even though we all know (that is, all of us here) that a weight struggle is NOT a moral failing.

Although at 60 lbs. heavier than I am now, I felt hopeless and unhappy, I've never been at a weight where my relationships or public perception were so deeply negative. However, I do understand the challenge. Perhaps I have a future life in the fitness world, where I can be of some help. Thanks for all your personal perspectives.

KvonM
Tue, Feb-27-07, 09:49
j13, you bring up really good points... it's why i reacted to the article with complete sarcasm and scorn. it takes a lot of inner strength not to allow society's prejudices to dictate your own self-image. personally, i've been through way too much in my life to tolerate something so petty as someone judging me based on my weight.

two things just occurred to me... about 10 years ago, i worked with a woman who was very overweight, probably up around 300lbs. she went through most of her life being thin, and her weight ballooned up with each of her 3 pregnancies. thing is, i never even noticed her weight. she was wonderfully intelligent, funny, creative, caring, and treated me like the daughter she never had. i saw her for HER, not for the size of her clothes. now maybe that's because i was always dismissed based on my physical appearance, and that gave me the ability to see the person within the body.

the other thing is that i know someone who, when he was in his early 20's, was basically a horny little butthead who would go after anyone he could. he told me once that he would intentionally go after girls who were heavy... not because he prefers women with "meat on their bones" or anything, but because he knew a lot of them had low enough self-esteem that they'd be receptive to any guy's attention, and it would usually get him laid faster than if he tried to go after someone who was thin. he has since grown up, wised up, and realizes just how horrible his motives were back then. now when he dates a girl, he dates her for who she is, not just because he thinks she'll be grateful for pity sex.

joylorene
Tue, Feb-27-07, 10:42
But, that said - it just can not be denied that your life is more miserable when you're fat. It is not fun to be taunted. It is not fun to be physically attacked. It is not fun to be treated as a non-entity. NOT having those things happen to you - it just makes life easier. This is why the article resonated with me - because it feels to me like they were talking about how hard it is to be happy when you are treated that way by society.
-j.

SO TRUE!! Or just the fact that clothing for overweight people is sooo ugly!! Or if you do find something nice it's sooo expensive!! Or the looks at the restaurants - Being overweight I find really affects my personality - I tend to hide in the background so no one sees me.

fujiwara
Tue, Feb-27-07, 11:47
I learned how to sew so I could make cute clothes that fit. Makes me feel great when I make something new.

In the midwestern US, clothing stores have to stock things in more larger sizes than they do on the coasts because people tend to be bigger in the midwest. I'd like to think there's still a bit of the "strapping farm girl" mentality left, and less pressure to be a size 00.

ysabella
Tue, Feb-27-07, 18:34
Heh, fujiwara. The fashion tip for Seattle is, if you are a woman with big feet, shop on Capital Hill (downtown), because that's where all the cross-dressers shop. So you can find bigger shoe sizes. :lol:

.muse.
Wed, Feb-28-07, 10:46
I am very much so in agreement with j13. At my peak weight, I was probably more than my highest recorded weight of 380. I was miserable. Going out in public is embarrassing. It always feels like all eyes are on you, that everyone is judging you. Going out to restaurants, I always feel like I'm supposed to order off the lite menu, so that I'm not judged for eating normal food. That it's easier to crack jokes at my behalf than to let people make them themselves, or even think them.

I probably still am the biggest person I know, simply because I am 6' and over 300lbs. I have made the joking comment to many of my friends before, that I'm scared to lose weight. Right now, I'm the funny fat girl who makes everyone laugh. If I get down to my goal weight, I'll just be the girl who talks to much.

I don't like my body, but I do think I still am decent looking. I've been told by numerous people that I am gorgeous, or beautiful, etc. People who haven't ever met me before have come up to me and told me that I have stunning features, or beautiful hair. But I don't think I've ever been told I had a nice body, y'know?

I think nearly everyone who's dieting knows the feeling of displacing water while getting in the bath tub, or having to shell out absolutely incredible amounts of money for a decent outfit that someone else could find on clearance in a size 7 for 1/8th the price.

The real kick in the teeth is what the original author of the article said, about how certain doctors wouldn't see her if she was depressed, and that people who are still overweight criticize her for not losing the weight naturally. I find it's hard for me to lose the weight naturally, because right now, my current dilemma is, that every exercise machine I can afford has a 250lb weight limit on it. It's like society has determined that once you're over a certain amount of weight, you are just meant to stay there.

The part that still strikes me as amusing, however, is that obesity is now an "epidemic". More than 1/2 the population in the US and many other countries are overweight, with nearly 1/4th of them being considered obese. With so many people in the world who are "fatties", it's strange that people still have the balls to make fun of anyone for their weight.