...well think Im back :-)

[picaboo]

....Yap.....Yap.........
...time do pass by .

During the time I was out of here (food concerning) I did well...and I did VERY bad.
Have this problem that , I don't know how "to hold/keep" this LC habit for...A LONG LONG period of TIME.

Don't know what is it with me?
...those feeling of deprivations ?
...feeling sometimes different from other around me ?...so why me?
...Am I just "soft" on giving up to those feeling of mine ?
..with the knowledge that those food are bad to my Blood Sugar !!!
BUT,
Knowing is not always enough...to activate this knowledge is the hardest part.
So,
If I want to stay away from Insulin...I must.must.must keep on controling my food the only way I know for now (hopefull in the future they will know more about diabetes)



So.....here I am again.




............LOL......NICE !!!!
I see a speller check here ! (love it)
Can I get a grammar check too ?.....LOL...Please,Please....
(a smart one needs(must) to develop it...maybe will see my post here..he he he)

[picaboo]

... I SO afraid thou, I will fall back again (as always)....having those nice BS show me (yesterday and today) that -this is- the -only- way for me to eat.
But,
Here I am in the end always doing "stupid" things.

........... Think I need a psychology!!!!!.........................lol..lol...

[eddiemcm]

Low carb as a way of life is difficult for most
people(that includes me).If you don't want
insulin or meds,you seem to know that you
need to do LC(which appears to have worked
for you in the past).Your choice!
Good luck
Eddie

[unitydkn]

we stray from our uphill path because it is hard but... there is a flash flood coming and if we don't want to drown we cannot take the easy (downhill) path...the good news is that here others are walking with you and can give you a hand over the rough patches...
Welcome back


spell check??? where??? I can't find it!!!

[Charran]

It definetely is a hard path to follow and to keep that motivation daily can be a challenge. I have played around with my menus for years figuring out the kinds of things I can eat without having them raise my blood sugar. For me, the key is to have variety so that I don't get to the point where I'm bored with what I'm eating. Slowly, over the years, this WOE is just becoming habit for me. NO, I'm still not perfect and do have the occassional slip, but I know without a doubt that I have to get right back on it and not allow myself that foray into carbdom!

[picaboo]

...........I want to thank all of you on your's kind words.
I don't know how to say that...it helps to hear other too.

..................................Thanks :-)))


I must admit something else here too.......
* I'm still not out of the closet yet!
My family (not my close, close one) and friends of mine, they don't know...that I am a Diabetic.
I find that I cannot admit that yet.
Cannot break this image they do have of me of a strong, healthy, athletic woman......especially, when they all tell me about theirs health issues.

I cannot even tell myself (happen that often)that...I AM A DIABETIC.
I've been traveling so many times not taking my Blood test and ignoring my BS on those trips.
Maybe....that is the reason I'm having such a hard time...?...I think I know everything , I'm smart , I'm doing ok and how can I have it ?...it will go away...?....but of course it'll not...just something unexplainable (not rational) with me....
Didn't I say, I need a psychology..............lol..lol

[picaboo]

.........This evening we went to original home kitchen Mexican restaurant and gee how difficult it was to choose something.
Everything is in Spanish and of course they don't have nothing of - no - flour/ corn flour.
So I choose "manudo" a soup made from the inside (think stomach) of the cow...I love it:-)
It came with 3 small warm flour tortilla. So I told myself... do not touch those one!..........

.....I ate all of them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(2h later...and I do not dare to test my BS)

[RobLL]

Picabo - why be concerned about folks knowing your diabetic. I actually am pre-diabetic (which I consider a faux diagnosis which really means I am diabetic, not just insurance eligible yet!). I also ate at a Mexican Restaurant today, saw a salad whose only real carbs were a little corn relish. Asked for whatever dressing was no carb. Ate the whole thing.

Part of the success in low carb is finding all of the great alternatives to what you used to eat. A treat at a restaurant might be a side order of shrimp, an extra guacamole.

Check out the gym workouts some of us do. You cannot imagine the fun and self image improvements to be the strongest, cuttest, most toned person around, even if you carry more weight than you want.

You gotta' look at making this life style the best, not a continued regime of deprivation. While those of us who succeed at low carbing do miss some of the things we used to enjoy (crave, die for, love, pig out on) we work at finding replacements which give equal pleasure.

Good luck to you on all of this

[picaboo]

RobLL. thanks so much for your kind words.
As I said before,
Its been a long time I have been dealing with my diabetes and called it : before or after diabetes or any other name, it does not change my diabetes.
I am not on med yet...but soon it looks like I will be, by the way Im doing "stupid things" with my food.

I came back here deciding that this will be the place that will absorb all my complains and frustration and hopefully other will join me with theirs and together ...we will walk the walk with our diabetes :-)))


By taking those frustrations and complaines and by been brutal honest with ourself
...maybe this will be the way to save me /us the need for a psychology....lol...lol...lol

[picaboo]

.............after eating those tortillas.........
My morning BS where high - 164.
...went to the gym did some good workout...kept my lunch LC and hopefully I'll be able to drop this high number.
If not.
...it looks like I really will need to go check my Dr.
But,
I have all the hope I can lower it down.
(knowing "hope" is not the issue here when I am killing those pancreas cells more and more)




Gee............cannot say I love to deal with that.

[dina1957]

.........This evening we went to original home kitchen Mexican restaurant and gee how difficult it was to choose something.
Everything is in Spanish and of course they don't have nothing of - no - flour/ corn flour.
So I choose "manudo" a soup made from the inside (think stomach) of the cow...I love it:-)
It came with 3 small warm flour tortilla. So I told myself... do not touch those one!..........

.....I ate all of them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(2h later...and I do not dare to test my BS)
Welcome back Picaboo!
I understand you, but this is a bit of advice: next time ask your server to hold off tortillas and chips, as well as when you fo for mexican food. I always do this in any place: japanese, italian, mexican, etc. I ask them to take away bread basket in italian places, skip rice or noodles in orienatal (if I eat soup I ask for bean sproutes, works very well instead of noodles), etc. This was it is easy to avoid temptations and you save this food from being tossed.:lol:
Another way, is to ask for corn tortillas, if you must have it to feel authentic flavor, they have less carbs than flour one. I usually have few chips (they are fried and don't bother my BGs too much), and if I have it with alcohol- no problem whatsoever. I also order black beans only (small portion) and share it with DH, no rice and no tortialls either. Fahitas or steak/fish with salsa verde, anything grilled, there are many choices, just don't eat rice and everything wrapped in tortillas and made with masa like enchiladas.We all humans and it is hard not to sample when it is in front of you, so don't beat yourself over it. I would check my Bgs in purpose after a slip like this, seeing a higher number is by far the best remedy to avoid big cheat next time.;) I actually always check my Bgs after eating out, this way I know which food affects me the most, and how far I can go with my cheats.
In general, I try to cook and eat at home most of the time, and eat out only on special ocations: vacations, travelling, celebrations, etc. I cook pretty much everything myself, even ethnic foods, and the only food I go out for is sashimi and other japanese delicacy (like monk fish lvier).
You can always find acceptable food in pretty much any cousine, just be carefull and avoid all starches and sweets.
Best regards,
Dina

[dina1957]

.............after eating those tortillas.........
My morning BS where high - 164.
...went to the gym did some good workout...kept my lunch LC and hopefully I'll be able to drop this high number.
If not.
...it looks like I really will need to go check my Dr.
But,
I have all the hope I can lower it down.
(knowing "hope" is not the issue here when I am killing those pancreas cells more and more)




Gee............cannot say I love to deal with that.
I am sure your Bgs will setlle, one cheat should not ruin it for you. But IMO, the biggest mistake most of us make is that 85 around the clock is easily achievable just by sticking to 30 g cabrsa day, both of which is hard for many different reasons. Diabetes is also progressive, no wants to deal with this desease, but many live long life and doing not bad just by following a good diet, exericse and if needed, using meds or insulin. It is the idea that we must have "normal" Bgs is what making us stressed, but still 80-120 range after meals is completely acceptable even for non-diabetics.
Also, if your FBG is high - eating early Bf and working out will bring it down sooner.
I doubt that pancreatic cells in T2 burn out complletely but we also become more IR as we grow older, and especially menopausal and post-meno women.
But I also hope that more meds will be on market before this happens, and there are also good insulins on market now, so don't despare. Life is too short to stress over something "that may or may not happen".

[picaboo]

Dina,
So great so see ya!!! :-)))))))

Can I adopt you !:-))))Need you in my pocket!!!...he he he

You sound so rational and so right....I think, I need to be this way when I'm dealing with my diabetes.
It was so (((helpful))) for me to read what you wrote.

And I do so much agree with you..........." Life is beautiful" but is it not nice to complain, so healthy too...lol lol lol

[picaboo]

I did so well during the day yesterday then we all went to a bar and gee, I could not find Dina in my pocket....lol...lol..lol...
So...my BS this morning SO SO SO bad - 186
...hope with day goes by...I will see lower numbers.


...going to talk to my Dr. today....................

[dina1957]

I did so well during the day yesterday then we all went to a bar and gee, I could not find Dina in my pocket....lol...lol..lol...

if you keep me in your pocket, I won't help you, LOL. You need me sitting on your shoulder, so I can shout into your ear:lol:Seriously, you either need to control yourself, or start using meds or insulin. Since you went to a bar, my guess - mixed drinks, all contain simple syrop, a big NO-NO :nono:. next time when you order a drink, go for dry martini, bloody merry, glass of wine, wine, and even dark beer, any spirit straight or on the rocks - but not mixed drinks. I know some control their FBG with a night cap, but for me it works the oppsite, and I pay next day by even higher BGs. I think it is rebound from alcohol caused hypo. Another advice: eat some protein and fat before you drink.
Hope you dr can find a solution for you.
Good luck.
D.

[Lisa N]

Picaboo, you wondered jokingly whether or not you might need psychology but maybe it would be helpful for you to gain some insight into why you eat in a way that hurts you even when you know that it's hurting you?
Think about it: you know that your choices of food/drinks can either keep your blood sugar controlled or lead you to needing insulin (which it seems you clearly don't want) but yet you choose foods that are going to lead you in the direction that you don't want? Why?
We all make choices sometimes that aren't the best even when we know they aren't the best, but when those kinds of choices become a pattern it starts becoming self-destructive behavior instead of an occasional slip.
When someone starts heading down the path of self-destructive behavior, it would be wise to stop and think about what is driving that behavior and sometimes we need a third party to help us with that (like a good counselor).
At the end of the day, Picaboo, you are the one who has to make the choices minute by minute and day by day...we can't make them for you.
We can all offer advice and strategies and cheer you when you succeed but the mind that makes the choices and the hand that feeds you is yours.

[picaboo]

....Dear Dear Dina...lol....

"Hope you Dr. can find a solution for you. "


surprise!
He sound ((just)) like you !!!.....he he he......really!!! really!!! :
"Seriously, you either need to control yourself, or start using med or insulin..." said he cannot give me insulin yet ...(wonder why)....


SO,
........I'm not med free anymore!!!

At noon time went and bought this thingy "Meta-whats the name" 1 in the morning, 1 in the evening and will see how that will work.
Already took with lunch and I will take one before dinner. I will check to see if this "the miracle pill" for me (wish)
I so much hope I will be consinstance on taking this pill. already my mind working so hard thinking that maybe I can do better without it(hate my mind).........I want to give this a chance.

Or maybe I need to push toward insulin, a nature stuff. compare to those chemical I'm going to poison myself with (?) no chemical is a good chemical and no one tells us the side affects for long long long time taking/using those med......just a thought.....

[picaboo]

.......Thanks, Thanks Dear Lisa,

I know you are SO right and thank you SO much for that !...:-)

Think, I did not "mature" enough about*me*having Diabetes.
(legally):-)

Have been trying to ignore this monster...thinking *I* can bit it...and it will go away...there is no way I'm going to have to straggle with that.
To find out only that I'm not that of a strong person as I thought I am. and to find out that its not effortlessly at all as I wanted or wish it to be......only to discover the opposite of that.

So I think, by me admitting it here and talking about it here...maybe,maybe this will help me finally to realize that YES I am a Diabetic and it will never ever will go away.

Thank you again so much.

.

[picaboo]

.............well,

So not on Metformin yet..(my mind is stronger then I...bad or good will see...still think I can bit it)
Last night, before going to bed had 1/2 apple with 1TB sunflowers seeds...worked so well my BS this morning 135 and not 185 so, will check and see if it is not one time episode........?......

[picaboo]

...http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4559

[dina1957]

....Dear Dear Dina...lol....

"Hope you Dr. can find a solution for you. "


surprise!
He sound ((just)) like you !!!.....he he he......really!!! really!!! :
"Seriously, you either need to control yourself, or start using med or insulin..." said he cannot give me insulin yet ...(wonder why)....


SO,
........I'm not med free anymore!!!

At noon time went and bought this thingy "Meta-whats the name" 1 in the morning, 1 in the evening and will see how that will work.
Already took with lunch and I will take one before dinner. I will check to see if this "the miracle pill" for me (wish)
I so much hope I will be consinstance on taking this pill. already my mind working so hard thinking that maybe I can do better without it(hate my mind).........I want to give this a chance.

Or maybe I need to push toward insulin, a nature stuff. compare to those chemical I'm going to poison myself with (?) no chemical is a good chemical and no one tells us the side affects for long long long time taking/using those med......just a thought.....
Dear Picaboo,
I agree with your doctor: in your case using insulin will give you "green light" to continue making poor food choices and covering your Bgs with insulin. Ultimately, it will result in weight gain and worsening of IR, not to mention that insulin is not a candy ( no pun intended) and it can give you hypos. using insulin on 6-12-12 plan is different than using insulin as an excuse to overindulge and make poor dietary choices. Additionally, higher levels of insulin linked to heart failure, cancers, and other terminal illnesses. Your dr understands your situation well, but he also has protocol when insulin is give only to those with high BG that can't be controlled with diet and exercise alone, or above in combination with Metformin and/or sulfonylureas.
http://health.yahoo.com/ency/healthwise/hw133513
Insulin is "natural" but not all insulins created equal, some work to keep your basal level and good for FBG, others- to cover for carbs in meal. It is not simple to control with insulin, and requires strict carbs counting, and not everyone has perfect Bgs with insulin either, ESPECIALLY if they eat starches and sweets. Exogenous insulin also does get absorbed and work as fast as the one your body makes, and your Bgs will be either on their way up or on a way down.
If the "meta..." thingy is metformin, then it works by making your body more sensitive to insulin and curbing "liver dump".
http://www.drugs.com/metformin.html
There is no miracle pill, ASAIK, diabetes is a very compex desease and it is totally up to you how to control it. We all have our moments of weakness, we we think "why me?" and "I am sick and tired of counting every carb and morcel of food that goes into my body" and yes, I slip too but very rare, and when I cheat, I make it least harmfull: no sweets or sugary cocktails or desserts, period. I can have 1-2 tiny fingerling potatoes (1/4 cup) parboiled and browned in lots of goose fat, or 1/2 small sweet potatoe with butter, or 1/2 cup of steel cut oatmeal, or cup of lentil soup or other bean soup, or 1/2 mango, or handfull of grapes. starchy food (only 1/2 oatmeal or 1/2 sweet potatoe or small cup of lentil soup or other bean soup, or few stone ground yellow corn chips with salsa and a small bottle dark ale, or 1 square of 75% chocolate ( I normally eat only 85%) once or twice a month. But I do eat low GI fruits regulary and fresh tomatoes, and have no problem as long as the serving is small. These are my cheats, you got the idea. But I always compensate it with exercise, to make sure I don't see high readings. I also never skip to test Bgs after a cheat, sometimes it works like a charm to avoid cheating for a long time;) Oh, and I cheat mostly on a very special ocations or if there is something that I only sample once, so I will take a bite, and definetely, 1-2 days before TOM, this is the only time of the months that I must have some real carbs but I always eat it with plenty of protein and fat, and exercise after.
I have used metformin, but it did not help much, just make me feel not well. Hope this med works for you, but no medications can balance poor diet choices, DIET AND EXERCISE are essential for this desease. How low with carbs can you go - it depends on your lifestyle, food choices, and remianing beta-cells of your pancrease.
I hope this helps, did not mean to lecture you, we all going through phases, myself including. This is why many diabetics just choose to eat whatever and never test, but at the end no one wants to suffer kidnney failure and dialysis, blindness, heart attack, and amputation. It is very scary and when I feel like cheating, I picture myself in one of this situations, and it is the best medicine to avoid cheating, try it, it works!!!!!
Best wishes and hope this helps.
Dina

[picaboo]

Dear, Dear and really Dear Dina :-)))

....Gee...I really need some of you, in me.....lol..lol..lol....:lol:



Its so nice to know and try to understand how someone else deal with Diabetes.
I love and enjoy reading what you have to say and what you're eating make me more want to stay in track.

I think I can only eat small -tiny- portion that my BS will be in ok ranges after 2h of meal but, if I eat like "Europeans normal!! portions" then...gee, my BS jump hight like crazy 2h after about 4h after it goes around 135-125....if in between I will do light walking I can lower it even to 110-96...(but a "strong" (dont know it that's the right word here to use) workout will bring it back to high..................use to run half- marathons and marathon for 15y but my knees finally gave up on me so right now I need to give them a l.o.n.g rest....so...........

Think, NOT MUCH beta-cells left in pancreas the way I abuse it !.........Is there anyway to figure it out?

Must admit I dont know much about insulin...and wish and hope never to know.....but........as Lisa said: it's all about - me.



Well,
I could write & write about my Diabete so much...But,
...feel so bad sometimes with my English that I limit myself on what I have to say here.

Keep on telling me much more, how you're doing...It is SO good to know ...wish other people here will tell more about theirs food wisdom :-) and how they deal with situations too.

Take Care much

[picaboo]

http://www.rd.com/content/openContent.do?contentId=30147

Very nice story.

[dina1957]

Think, NOT MUCH beta-cells left in pancreas the way I abuse it !.........Is there anyway to figure it out?
next time you go for a regualr h1C and fasting, ask your dr to get an 8-h fasting insulin and c-peptidde blood test done as well, you will know where you are insulin wise.
I struglle too, and I also was in denials, and I went though all the phases, being Dx with T2 for me was like a lightnening: never like or ate sweets, never ate junk, and always active. But being ashkenazi jew, I think T2 diabetes runs in my genes, and is very very in our ethnic group. I have read that all ashkenazi jews can be traced to 3 female, so the gene pool is very small and hence, many genetic deseases. But I never despare, life is good and it could be something much worse than diabetes. So, chin up and take care of yourself, diabetes is nothing to be ashamed about, it is not like you have some STD, so I am noy hesitant to say: yes, I have diabetes, this is why I can't eat pizza and sandwiches when they serve food at lunch seminars, and I have an excuse to bring my own salad. ;) I too have very selective with exercise, my joints are not getting yonger but I also never ran marathon, so I swim, run on elliptical ( easiest machine on joints) and do weight too. I enjoy whatever I can eat, and try not complain, and don't feel sorry for myself. Some of class mates and peer died already, so I am just happy to be alive and active, and enjoy every day. I hope you feel better and accept that you are and embrace your diabetes as well, just try to do your best!!!!
Best regards,
Dina:)
BTW English is my second language too.;)

[picaboo]

Dear Dina,
Gee...we share so many things :-)....and life is beautiful and I'm so bless...just that - kinda much - don't like this...and in need to learn to adjust to it...maybe...?....


Wish my English would be so good like yours !!!...think, not only my pancreas beta cells are damaged but very important brain's cells too......lol...lol....

Always take care much.


*...took a big note about those tests. I will defently ask for them - no one ever before offer me something of that kind...THANKS!!!

[Charran]

Picaboo- I don't know how long ago you were diagnosed with diabetes, but I do think many people go through all the stages before they arrive at acceptance of their disease. It's a grief process because you have lost something. a part of your life. I was diagnosed a long time ago and I went through everything you talk about. It took me awhile to get to the point I am now. Time is an important factor, but so is educating yourself. I read everything I could get my hands on at the beginning. I learned for myself what I have to do to take care of myself and realized that no one else was going to do it for me. Then I found a plan that I could really live with. I have tried lots and failed at them. Now I am doing a new one. I have tailored it to myself and to what I would like my BG levels to be. I eat a wide variety of things and generally don't feel deprived. Sure there are times I wish I could just dig into a box of doughnuts or eat a whole pizza, but I know this is not realistic for me. I probably eat more carbs than most people here do, but it is working for me and that is all that matters. My BG levels are perfectly normal most days, my cholestral and BP are normal also. So make sure you are testing regularily, find a plan that works for you and that you don't feel deprived on. If you feel that way, it is not going to last. And last, exercise if you aren't already. I think exercise is very important for diabetics. It really helps me control BG levels. There is no magic cure as Dina has said and ultimately it is up to us to take care of our own health. Somedays it feels very overwhelming still, but you just have to keep trying.

[picaboo]

.....Thanks Char so much,
You are so right about find what is good for "long..long..long run" !!!.....and I need to work on that one.

[picaboo]

DID YOU KNOW:
Walking DOWNHILL reduces blood sugars more then walking UPHILL: A study presented to the American Heart Association concluded downhill walking significantly improved the body's ability to process sugar in the blood, while walking uphill did not produce the same result. Dr. Heinz Drexel conducted the study with 45 sedentary but healthy people in the Austrian mountains. For two months participants hiked either uphill or downhill everyday then switched directions for the next two months.

[Charran]

Did they happen to give the reasoning behind that?

[picaboo]

....no.

I did it once for a l.o.n.g day...going downhill from a mountain...lost a few of my figures tows...(I had gym shows, needed a trial's one)...oh well.......anyway, don't think I will do that again.

[dina1957]

DID YOU KNOW:
Walking DOWNHILL reduces blood sugars more then walking UPHILL: A study presented to the American Heart Association concluded downhill walking significantly improved the body's ability to process sugar in the blood, while walking uphill did not produce the same result. Dr. Heinz Drexel conducted the study with 45 sedentary but healthy people in the Austrian mountains. For two months participants hiked either uphill or downhill everyday then switched directions for the next two months.
Hi Pica,
I have read it too, but how did they got to the top first, were taken by chopper:lol:. I also read that walking uphill lowers cholesterol.
In any case, walking downhill is by far the worst exercise ever for bad knees, and walking uphill is good exercise for your heart and the best for butt and tighs. I also think walking uphill is harder and more stress on the body, so liver releases glucogen, which can be intrepreted as reduced ability to process sugar.

[picaboo]

...he he he.................I do agree with you.