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Daryl Krup
Wed, Jan-31-07, 06:17
Cavern may hold answers to hobbits riddle

http://tinyurl.com/3cjshy

I suppose that the spelunking "hobbits" didn't
really need the ascenders, carabiners, etc. usually
used in abseiling down and up an 80-foot deep shaft:

http://www.peak-adventures.co.nz/Abseil%202-1%20200mm.jpg

They might have gotten by with prussik knots ...

http://www.mountainshop.fi/oppaat/kalalkeet/prusik.gif

- Daryl Krupa

Rich Travs
Wed, Jan-31-07, 17:16
Daryl Krupa wrote:
>
> Cavern may hold answers to hobbits riddle
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3cjshy
>
> I suppose that the spelunking "hobbits" didn't
> really need the ascenders, carabiners, etc. usually
> used in abseiling down and up an 80-foot deep shaft:

From the above article:

"I'd be very surprised if hobbits didn't fall down there,"
said archeologist Mike Morwood, co-leader of the team that
discovered the hobbits.

> http://www.peak-adventures.co.nz/Abseil%202-1%20200mm.jpg
>
> They might have gotten by with prussik knots ...
>
> http://www.mountainshop.fi/oppaat/kalalkeet/prusik.gif

Daryl Krup
Tue, Feb-06-07, 06:16
On Feb 3, 9:42=EF=BF=BDpm, "deowll"
<deo...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> "Rich Travsky" <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:45C0BF67.6C9E25F5@hotmMOVEail.com...
>
> > Daryl Krupa wrote:
>
> >> Cavern may hold answers to hobbits riddle
>
> >>http://tinyurl.com/3cjshy
>
> >> =A0 I suppose that the spelunking "hobbits" didn't really
> >> need the ascenders, carabiners, etc. usually used in
> >> abseiling down and up an 80-foot deep shaft:
>
> > From the above article:
>
> > "I'd be very surprised if hobbits didn't fall down there,"
> > said archeologist Mike Morwood, co-leader of the team that
> > discovered the hobbits.
>
> Fall, get shoved. A dead body tossed to remove the stink. A
> great place to throw trash but a real danger around kids.
>
>
>
>
>
> >>http://www.peak-adventures.co.nz/Abseil%202-1%20200mm.jpg
>
> >> =A0 They might have gotten by with prussik knots ...
>
> >>http://www.mountainshop.fi/oppaat/kalalkeet/prusik.gif-
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Daryl Krup
Tue, Feb-06-07, 06:16
On Feb 3, 9:42?pm, "deowll" <deo...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> "Rich Travsky" <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
<snip>
> > "I'd be very surprised if hobbits didn't fall down there,"
> > said archeologist Mike Morwood, co-leader of the team that
> > discovered the hobbits.
>
> Fall, get shoved. A dead body tossed to remove the stink. A
> great place to throw trash but a real danger around kids.

I wonder if they'll find the missing body of a certain Bre-X
geologist ...

- Daryl Krupa

Deowll
Tue, Feb-06-07, 06:16
"Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
news:45C0BF67.6C9E25F5@hotmMOVEail.com...
> Daryl Krupa wrote:
>>
>> Cavern may hold answers to hobbits riddle
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/3cjshy
>>
>> I suppose that the spelunking "hobbits" didn't
>> really need the ascenders, carabiners, etc. usually
>> used in abseiling down and up an 80-foot deep shaft:
>
> From the above article:
>
> "I'd be very surprised if hobbits didn't fall down there,"
> said archeologist Mike Morwood, co-leader of the team that
> discovered the hobbits.

Fall, get shoved. A dead body tossed to remove the stink. A
great place to throw trash but a real danger around kids.

>
>> http://www.peak-adventures.co.nz/Abseil%202-1%20200mm.jpg
>>
>> They might have gotten by with prussik knots ...
>>
>> http://www.mountainshop.fi/oppaat/kalalkeet/prusik.gif

Deowll
Tue, Feb-06-07, 06:16
"Lee Olsen" <paleocity@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170284673.579467.173340@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 31, 8:10 am, Rich Travsky
> <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>> Daryl Krupa wrote:
>>
>> > Cavern may hold answers to hobbits riddle
>>
>> >http://tinyurl.com/3cjshy
>>
>> > I suppose that the spelunking "hobbits" didn't
>> > really need the ascenders, carabiners, etc. usually
>> > used in abseiling down and up an 80-foot deep shaft:
>>
>> From the above article:
>>
>> "I'd be very surprised if hobbits didn't fall down there,"
>> said archeologist Mike Morwood, co-leader of the team that
>> discovered the hobbits.
>
> There is another possibility...
>
> http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/atapuerca/meet.php "And
> nobody knows how long it took this concentration of broken
> bones to accumulate. But the best guess of the investigators
> of the site is that the bodies were thrown in there by other
> humans. They're fragmentary, just like the animals bones
> that are also found at this occupation site, and they are
> broken up in exactly the same way. They also bear cut marks
> left by stone tools that are just like the cut marks that
> are found on the animal bones. Evidently the humans there
> treated human bones exactly the same way that they treated
> the animal bones. And if they were eating the animals then
> probably they were eating the humans as well."

At Dolina the bones have cut marks. At the pit of the bones
none have been cited to my knowledge. It also isn't likely
they got there by accident. The way is long and hard. Not sure
if another way in ever existed.

No other way in has been suggested for the hobbit site. 75
feet down is a pretty good drop below ground level. Kind of
like an old dry or rather damp well in the back of the cave.

>
> No need for climbing gear here either. Or, maybe there was
> another entrance that has long since caved in and they
> simply walked in and out.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> >http://www.peak-adventures.co.nz/Abseil%202-1%20200mm.jpg
>>
>> > They might have gotten by with prussik knots ...
>>
>> >http://www.mountainshop.fi/oppaat/kalalkeet/prusik.gif-
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