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Radium
Wed, Jan-17-07, 17:16
Go on a diet of natural, organic, "non-pesticided" plants only
-- fruits, veggies, herbs, almonds, cashews, etc.
But don't eat them just like that. First, use a molecular
machine to remove all the following substances from the plants
before eating them:
1.. Any and all forms of chlorine [including sodium chloride]
but do not completely avoid sodium as it is needed in small
quantites. Sodium is a basic mineral and is needed. Excess
or deficiency of Na can be dangerous. Chlorine, OTOH, is not
necessary. Completely remove it from your list of consumed
chemicals. Make sure any water [whether drinking, shower, or
washing] you come in contact with, is free of chlorine.
Don't use chlorine for cleaning either. Chlorine is evil.
2. All simple sugars -- but remember to keep those complex
carbohydrates as the central nervous system can only use
carbs for energy!
3. All non-beneficial, non-essential fatty acids
4. Any glycerol
5. Any non-beneficial, non-essential amino acids
6. Any lead or other dangerous substances.
Eat in moderation.
Drink at least at 8 glasses of "drinking water" a day.
Diet is one thing. You also should exercise. Be sure to get at
least 30 minutes of aerobic exercise each day. Also perform
stretching exercises before aerobics.
Avoid smoking. Avoid any form of tobacco. Don't use any street
drugs. If you drink alcoholic beverages, do so in moderation
and avoid hard liquor. If you don't consume alcohol, there is
no need to start.
Radium
Wed, Jan-17-07, 17:16
Radium wrote:
> 1.. Any and all forms of chlorine [including sodium
> chloride] but do not completely avoid sodium as it is
> needed in small quantites. Sodium is a basic mineral and
> is needed. Excess or deficiency of Na can be dangerous.
> Chlorine, OTOH, is not necessary. Completely remove it
> from your list of consumed chemicals. Make sure any water
> [whether drinking, shower, or washing] you come in contact
> with, is free of chlorine. Don't use chlorine for cleaning
> either. Chlorine is evil.
Note: Be sure to to seperate the chlorine part of the
sodium-chloride before consumption
dkw12002
Wed, Jan-17-07, 17:16
Radium wrote:
> Radium wrote:
> > 1.. Any and all forms of chlorine [including sodium
> > chloride] but do not completely avoid sodium as it is
> > needed in small quantites. Sodium is a basic mineral and
> > is needed. Excess or deficiency of Na can be dangerous.
> > Chlorine, OTOH, is not necessary. Completely remove it
> > from your list of consumed chemicals. Make sure any
> > water [whether drinking, shower, or washing] you come in
> > contact with, is free of chlorine. Don't use chlorine
> > for cleaning either. Chlorine is evil.
>
> Note: Be sure to to seperate the chlorine part of the
> sodium-chloride before consumption
Well, pure sodium is extremely reactive and would explode when
it hit the moisture in your mouth. Pure chloine is also toxic
and was called mustard gas in WW 1, and it forms HCL,
hydrochloric acid when it reacts with moisture. Often the
compound formed by two or more elements has nothing in common
with the elements biologically.
After all is said and done, you are going to die. I
seriously doubt the above diet would significantly improve
your life. Beyond not smoking and drinking (in excess), and
watching your weight and diet and exercising, and perhaps
taking some Omega-3, the science is mostly anecdotal for the
rest of it. It sure would help if you could choose your
parents though. dkw
Richard Sc
Wed, Jan-17-07, 17:16
In misc.health.alternative Radium <glucegen1@excite.com>
wrote:
: 1.. Any and all forms of chlorine [including sodium
: chloride] but do not completely avoid sodium as it is
: needed in small quantites. Sodium is a basic mineral and
: is needed. Excess or deficiency of Na can be dangerous.
: Chlorine, OTOH, is not necessary.
We know all about your mental state, and most of us are
therefore willing to cut you some slack. But just what do you
think gastric fluid consists of?
-----
Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of
Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions
expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing."
Radium
Wed, Jan-17-07, 17:16
dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
> Well, pure sodium is extremely reactive and would explode
> when it hit the moisture in your mouth.
Elemental sodium is dangerously reactive. Ionic sodium isn't.
Our bodies need sodium ions in small amounts.
> Pure chloine is also toxic and was called mustard gas in WW
> 1, and it forms HCL, hydrochloric acid when it reacts with
> moisture.
Elemental chlorine is indeed very dangerous. Ionic chlorine is
benign as long as you don't have too much of it in your
system. However, you don't need any form of chlorine, so best
to avoid all forms of it.
> Often the compound formed by two or more elements has
> nothing in common with the elements biologically.
The same element in its atomic form can be extremely hazardous
while being relatively docile in its ionic state. Na and Cl
are examples of this. Electrically-neutral Na or Cl is a
disaster waiting to happen. Ionized, though, they aren't so
much of a threat. Now, excess sodium and/or chlorine can cause
high blood pressure but thats a totally different story.
Radium
Wed, Jan-17-07, 17:16
Richard Schultz wrote:
> But just what do you think gastric fluid consists of?
Enzymes and a small amount of HCl acid. If I were to
completely rid myself of chlorine ions, I probably wouldn't
have a sour stomach no matter what I ate.
Any other ideas as to what symptoms I would experience if some
mysterious power were to cause all the chlorine in my body to
disappear?
AFAIK, we don't need chlorine at all. Really, at all. I think
that mysterious power would do me a great favor by eliminating
those unecessary chlorine particles that invade my body.
Uncle Al
Wed, Jan-17-07, 17:16
Radium wrote:
>
> Go on a diet of natural, organic, "non-pesticided" plants
> only -- fruits, veggies, herbs, almonds, cashews, etc.
Idiot. How long did Romans average? 40 years to mortality. How
long do "pesticided" Americans live? 78. The single greatest
chemical life-saver worldwide was DDT suppressing malaria. One
year got down to four-digit deaths. Enviro-whiners now have
that back up to seven figures/year.
> But don't eat them just like that. First, use a molecular
> machine to remove all the following substances from the
> plants before eating them:
[snip crap]
Fucking imbecile. Life isn't worth living unless you live it.
--
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for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
Richard Sc
Wed, Jan-17-07, 17:16
In misc.health.alternative dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
: Pure chlo[r]ine is also toxic and was called mustard gas
: in WW 1,
No it wasn't. Chlorine was called "chlorine" and mustard gas
was called "mustard gas."
-----
Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of
Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions
expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"an optimist is a guy/ that has never had/ much experience"
Mark Probe
Wed, Jan-17-07, 17:16
dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
Pure chloine is also toxic and was called
> mustard gas in WW 1, and it forms HCL, hydrochloric acid
> when it reacts with moisture.
Incorrect.
http://www.firstworldwar.com/weaponry/gas.htm
The debut of the first poison gas however - in this instance,
chlorine - came on 22 April 1915, at the start of the Second
Battle of Ypres.
Towards evening, at around 5 pm, the bombardment began afresh
- except that sentries posted among the French and Algerian
troops noticed a curious yellow-green cloud drifting slowly
towards their line.
Puzzled but suspicious the French suspected that the cloud
masked an advance by German infantry and ordered their men to
'stand to' - that is, to mount the trench fire step in
readiness for probable attack.
The cloud did not mask an infantry attack however; at least,
not yet. It signalled in fact the first use of chlorine gas on
the battlefield. Ironically its use ought not to have been a
surprise to the Allied troops, for captured German soldiers
had revealed the imminent use of gas on the Western Front.
Their warnings were not passed on however.
The effects of chlorine gas were severe. Within seconds of
inhaling its vapour it destroyed the victim's respiratory
organs, bringing on choking attacks.
Mustard Gas
Remaining consistently ahead in terms of gas warfare
development, Germany unveiled an enhanced form of gas weaponry
against the Russians at Riga in September 1917: mustard gas
(or Yperite) contained in artillery shells.
Mustard gas, an almost odourless chemical, was distinguished
by the serious blisters it caused both internally and
externally, brought on several hours after exposure.
Protection against mustard gas proved more difficult than
against either chlorine or phosgene gas.
The use of mustard gas - sometimes referred to as Yperite -
also proved to have mixed benefits. While inflicting serious
injury upon the enemy the chemical remained potent in soil for
weeks after release: making capture of infected trenches a
dangerous undertaking.
--------
Both were nasty.
But different.
dkw12002
Thu, Jan-18-07, 06:15
Richard Schultz wrote:
> In misc.health.alternative dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> : Pure chlo[r]ine is also toxic and was called mustard gas
> : in WW 1,
>
> No it wasn't. Chlorine was called "chlorine" and mustard gas
> was called "mustard gas."
>
> -----
> Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of
> Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions
> expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan
> University
> -----
> "an optimist is a guy/ that has never had/ much experience"
Sorry, but chlorine gas is mustard gas. Don't confuse chloride
ion and chlorine. Chlorine is a toxic, reactive gas. dkw
Ace0f_5pad
Thu, Jan-18-07, 17:17
richard, your quote ""an optimist is a guy/ that has never
had/ much experience" is stupid. An optimist is a quality to
be desired, with or without "mucho experiencio" -which
doesn't mean that one should be without caution, or
scepticism. -"better to be a hard arse with heart, than a
hard arse that farts"
Richard Schultz wrote:
> In misc.health.alternative dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
> : Richard Schultz wrote:
> :> In misc.health.alternative dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> :> : Pure chlo[r]ine is also toxic and was called mustard
> :> : gas in WW 1,
>
> :> No it wasn't. Chlorine was called "chlorine" and mustard
> :> gas was called "mustard gas."
>
> : Sorry, but chlorine gas is mustard gas. Don't confuse
> : chloride ion and chlorine. Chlorine is a toxic, reactive
> : gas. dkw
>
> Chlorine is Cl2. Mustard gas is
> 1,1'-thiobis[2-chloroethane], ClCH2-CH2-S-CH2-CH2Cl. Look it
> up in the CRC Handbook or the Merck Index and then come back
> when you can do at least a passable impression of someone
> who knows what he is talking about.
>
> -----
> Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of
> Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions
> expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan
> University
> -----
> "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're
> missing."
Mark Probe
Thu, Jan-18-07, 17:18
dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
> Richard Schultz wrote:
>> In misc.health.alternative dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> : Pure chlo[r]ine is also toxic and was called mustard gas
>> : in WW 1,
>>
>> No it wasn't. Chlorine was called "chlorine" and mustard
>> gas was called "mustard gas."
>>
>> -----
>> Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of
>> Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions
>> expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan
>> University
>> -----
>> "an optimist is a guy/ that has never had/ much
>> experience"
>
> Sorry, but chlorine gas is mustard gas. Don't confuse
> chloride ion and chlorine. Chlorine is a toxic, reactive
> gas. dkw
>
I posted why you are wrong. Keep being thick headed.
Peter Bowd
Thu, Jan-18-07, 17:18
dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>Richard Schultz wrote:
>> In misc.health.alternative dkw12002@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> : Pure chlo[r]ine is also toxic and was called mustard gas
>> : in WW 1,
>>
>> No it wasn't. Chlorine was called "chlorine" and mustard
>> gas was called "mustard gas."
>>
>> -----
>> Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of
>> Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions
>> expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan
>> University
>> -----
>> "an optimist is a guy/ that has never had/ much
>> experience"
>
>Sorry, but chlorine gas is mustard gas. Don't confuse
>chloride ion and chlorine. Chlorine is a toxic,
>reactive gas. dkw
Chlorine gas is Cl. Mustard gas is Cl-CH2-CH2-S-CH2-CH2-Cl
(1,1-thiobis(2-chloroethane)
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