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Sara_Lou
Sun, Jan-07-07, 15:04
Hi all I have a question ...
Being Christmas just passed im on limited funds for the next couple of days. Is it ok to have a diet of canned tuna, eggs and some lettuce while on induction?? If not, any suggestions?

Thanks ,

Sara

:wave:

liddie01
Sun, Jan-07-07, 15:09
i have eaten that before and lost weight, i did have mayo, too and salad dressing though. :lol: but eggs and tuna are both on the induction lists.

bkloots
Sun, Jan-07-07, 16:58
Perfectly legal. Boring, but legal. If that lettuce can be a dark green variety instead of iceberg, that would be better, nutritionally speaking.

Hope the cash flow improves real soon!

pesky15
Sun, Jan-07-07, 17:24
I'm totally with you. Had eggs for b-fast, salad for lunch, tuna for dinner, and it's going to be the same for a while. being broke sucks!

Kristine
Sun, Jan-07-07, 17:33
My sympathy... I hate being broke, too.

If you haven't done the shopping yet, do consider some of the other options that should be about the same price. For example, for the same price as a head of lettuce, I can usually find a head of cauliflower on the reduced rack... and that's more servings than the lettuce would have been. Likewise, you can get four meals worth of ground beef for the price of two meals worth of canned tuna. :idea: Obviously, that'll vary by location.

mike_d
Sun, Jan-07-07, 17:48
Being broke can be the best thing for your waistline :)

I use fresh spinach instead of lettuce, now I have the option of a salad or an omelet. Canned salmon is is also good and a change from tuna and don't forget sardines.

weezerchic
Sun, Jan-07-07, 17:50
i just stocked up on Tuna because before like a month ago i was having insane tna cravings i ate Tuna salad snadwhiches everyday for lunch for like a week. i lost a few lbs too , but nohting beats going to induction.

Sara_Lou
Sun, Jan-07-07, 18:43
Me again! Thanks for the replies.

Yeah i think that I am in induction - I have that weird mouth taste.

All I have been eating is tuna and eggs and some mayo. Im wondering how much is too much though! Today I have had 2 cans of tuna and probably 8 eggs (well some i just used the egg whites). This covered Breakfast Lunch Dinner and some for snacks. Any ideas on that??

weezerchic
Mon, Jan-08-07, 07:09
maybe some string chese. umm some celery sticks. small salads? you know you can eta the yolk right... unless u dont want too. oh how bout making some deveiled eggs??

obsessive
Mon, Jan-08-07, 07:52
Sounds good to me! I would do it in a heart beat if I liked tuna.
All I eat is eggs and cans of chunk chicken breast(white meat only 98% fat free)
sometimes I buy a can for 1.00 at Dollar General, but usually buy the 12.5 ounce can, Great Value brand from Walmart.
I eat 99% fat free ground turkey, but that can get expensive and its a higher sodium meat,
I think the cheaper ground beef is too fattening, but I know that pisses some people off when I say that because I don't eat anything with more than 4.5 grams of fat per serving.

Sara_Lou
Mon, Jan-08-07, 20:03
Starting to get sick of tuna thats for sure - lol! I checked out canned chicken tonight, but mechanically seperated never sits well with me... unless of course there is a better option. The eggs I dont mind - I can eat egg salad forever. Mmmm tuna for lunch tomorrow ... mmm. I weigh myself Wednesday - hope to see results! haha ;)

weezerchic
Mon, Jan-08-07, 21:01
Sounds good to me! I would do it in a heart beat if I liked tuna.
All I eat is eggs and cans of chunk chicken breast(white meat only 98% fat free)
sometimes I buy a can for 1.00 at Dollar General, but usually buy the 12.5 ounce can, Great Value brand from Walmart.
I eat 99% fat free ground turkey, but that can get expensive and its a higher sodium meat,
I think the cheaper ground beef is too fattening, but I know that pisses some people off when I say that because I don't eat anything with more than 4.5 grams of fat per serving.


hows the obcession working out for u?? LOL

Sara_Lou
Mon, Jan-08-07, 21:15
just a little broke! I dream of steak and mashed cauliflower - mmmmmmmmm.

SkySamChew
Mon, Jan-08-07, 22:07
Aww if you lived close to me Id give you some Elk steaks!! MY hubby is a hunter and we have 1000+lbs of Elk in our giant freezer (2 whole elks worth). I hope you see some weight loss on Wednesday!

MizKitty
Tue, Jan-09-07, 12:37
What's the texture and taste of those elk steaks like? Would I know I wasn't eating cow?

SkySamChew
Tue, Jan-09-07, 12:39
Yeah, they taste "gamey". They have more flavor than cow, no steriods or preservatives. They are much leaner and better for you. A lot of people dont like it because of the flavor, but I love it lol

Earthquake
Tue, Jan-09-07, 13:00
Hi all I have a question ...
Being Christmas just passed im on limited funds for the next couple of days. Is it ok to have a diet of canned tuna, eggs and some lettuce while on induction?? If not, any suggestions?

Thanks ,

Sara

:wave:


good stuff

newtolwcb
Tue, Jan-09-07, 14:56
You can fry tuna fish, just mix an egg and add the can of tuna, melt some butter in a non-stick fry pan and place a handful or patty of the tuna mix...may need a little salt, pepper and garlic powder to taste...something different.

also, hard boil an egg and add it to the tuna salad and maybe a dill pickle..

I love tuna! :yum:

obsessive
Wed, Jan-10-07, 07:26
hows the obcession working out for u?? LOL
Keeps me at an obsessively low bodyfat. For some reason when I eat meat I instantly want sweets. If I try to eat low-carb, no sugar treats(like from the lc recipe section on this site, which brought me here to begin with) I eat too much, or the whole thing. I don't want my whole workout to be for working off what I just ate. So sticking to my eggbeater/protein powder diet works best.
(I didn't know how to do this quote box before, cool.)

bkloots
Wed, Jan-10-07, 08:12
obsession, you didn't ask for my opinion, so feel free to ignore the following.

As the paragraph below, from an authoritative source, indicates, the consumption of fat is necessary to allow your body to process important vitamin nutrients. A "no fat" diet will be seriously detrimental to your health over time.

Fats from animal and vegetable sources provide a concentrated source of energy in the diet; they also provide the building blocks for cell membranes and a variety of hormones and hormonelike substances. Fats as part of a meal slow down absorption so that we can go longer without feeling hungry. In addition, they act as carriers for important fat-soluble vitamins A, D, E and K. Dietary fats are needed for the conversion of carotene to vitamin A, for mineral absorption and for a host of other processes.

You'll find the rest of the article Here. (http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html#intro)

In addition, a limited menu such as you describe is difficult to sustain over time. When you return to "normal" eating, you're likely to regain any weight you've lost with astonishing speed. That's why many of us enjoy the Atkins plan as a way of developing a way of eating we can live with forever, and stop the yo-yo dieting.

End of lecture. All good wishes.

weezerchic
Thu, Jan-11-07, 06:49
Keeps me at an obsessively low bodyfat. For some reason when I eat meat I instantly want sweets. If I try to eat low-carb, no sugar treats(like from the lc recipe section on this site, which brought me here to begin with) I eat too much, or the whole thing. I don't want my whole workout to be for working off what I just ate. So sticking to my eggbeater/protein powder diet works best.
(I didn't know how to do this quote box before, cool.)
yeah took me awhile to.. LOL so u just have egge beater and protein drinks. Meats make u crave sweets... woh that kinds strange.. ur not just icant imagaine haveing cravings for sweets after meat... well i guess i could having a cravings for sweets any time.. gosh i cant cheat ~ all ever... i go bonkers. i just hope when(very long time from now) i add carbs back... the first ones ill add is berries.... still fairly low on carbs. high in antioxidants(delicious) but i need to focas!! big time.. i am doing to weell. and i am very proud of myself... and everyday this is just like one day ~ a time u know.... i know its worth it not to cheat at all bc i cant control myself... like if i have one bad day i havent trouble getting back on the wagon.. so i cant pretty much have a bad day ya know

obsessive
Thu, Jan-11-07, 07:33
obsession, you didn't ask for my opinion, so feel free to ignore the following.

As the paragraph below, from an authoritative source, indicates, the consumption of fat is necessary to allow your body to process important vitamin nutrients. A "no fat" diet will be seriously detrimental to your health over time.

Fats from animal and vegetable sources provide a concentrated source of energy in the diet; they also provide the building blocks for cell membranes and a variety of hormones and hormonelike substances. Fats as part of a meal slow down absorption so that we can go longer without feeling hungry. In addition, they act as carriers for important fat-soluble vitamins A, D, E and K. Dietary fats are needed for the conversion of carotene to vitamin A, for mineral absorption and for a host of other processes.

You'll find the rest of the article Here. (http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html#intro)

In addition, a limited menu such as you describe is difficult to sustain over time. When you return to "normal" eating, you're likely to regain any weight you've lost with astonishing speed. That's why many of us enjoy the Atkins plan as a way of developing a way of eating we can live with forever, and stop the yo-yo dieting.

End of lecture. All good wishes.
Oh yes, I find it real hard to not gain weight when trying to go back to normal eating. I instantly go up 6 pounds, and I just want to eat everything in site. All sweets.
But for some reason after I eat meat or even poultry, I get a craving for sweets and I don't know why, I am frustrated. why is it if I eat some chicken then I want to keep eating, sweet stuff. But if I eat some protein powder I am fine. I am so confused. My way of eating and living is so unrealistic for an every day way of life. You are soooooo right! Do you think the meat I eat is too lean, its 99% fat free turkey and chicken and thats why I still get cravings?

Sara_Lou
Thu, Jan-11-07, 07:36
Hi all,

I weighed in yesterday - after my first week - and I am 6.5lbs down! Unbelievable - this diet does truly work! I am so empowered! Gotta run! TTYL :)

Sara

liddie01
Thu, Jan-11-07, 08:08
fat has helped me stay on track, and I could not do this low fat.

bkloots
Thu, Jan-11-07, 08:29
Fat is the "secret weapon" for success on Atkins. It is your primary energy source (replacing carbs), and provides significant health benefits as mentioned in the paragraphs quoted above.

For the control of cravings, add fats before carbs (even healthy carbs like berries). Cream cheese, natural, sugar-free peanut butter (if you are not in induction), nuts, butter (on veggies, for cooking eggs), mayonnaise, and olive oil are all good choices.

Best wishes.

obsessive
Fri, Jan-12-07, 07:51
Fat is the "secret weapon" for success on Atkins. It is your primary energy source (replacing carbs), and provides significant health benefits as mentioned in the paragraphs quoted above.

For the control of cravings, add fats before carbs (even healthy carbs like berries). Cream cheese, natural, sugar-free peanut butter (if you are not in induction), nuts, butter (on veggies, for cooking eggs), mayonnaise, and olive oil are all good choices.

Best wishes.
Can you promise me that adding fats(I will not be adding carbs)like using real eggs instead off eggbeaters because I am scared of the fat content in a real egg, will not bring back any cellulite, which I worked so hard to get rid of.
Because that matters to me more than the number on the scale. If my bodyfat goes up, its usually because I ate too many calories and ate some carbs. I will know instantly because I will get some dimples on the side of my left leg.(must be my storage unit) that was the place it was last to leave and the first place to come back. I did Atkins when I first needed to lose weight 3 years ago. I lost 20 pounds in three weeks, then switched to low fat like I lived all through my 20's.(Didn't know about low carb back then)because I still had alot of cellulite and I thought the fats were causing it. I also do more exercise than anyone I know. I only got rid of the last bit over the past 6 months by combining lowfat and low carb along with my cardio to the extremes. My life now revolves around constantly checking my leg for any return of bumps and dents, I am scared Atkins will bring it back. But I want to do it badly, scared to risk it though.

bkloots
Fri, Jan-12-07, 07:57
The hype about cellulite horror is a marketing scheme. Next time you're in the grocery store check-out line, see the latest edition of National Enquirer--cover story on celebrity cellulite. Young women have it. Fit and muscular women have it. Supermodels who are not dangerously starving have it. In short, women have it. It isn't a sign of dietary immorality. It's a physiological inevitability for many, if not most, women.

Noting your screen name, I can't help thinking you are risking your health for a goal that is unrealistic and unimportant.My life now revolves around constantly checking my leg for any return of bumps and dents There are way more important concerns.

Your life, your choice.

Earthquake
Fri, Jan-12-07, 08:51
Can you promise me that adding fats(I will not be adding carbs)like using real eggs instead off eggbeaters because I am scared of the fat content in a real egg, will not bring back any cellulite, which I worked so hard to get rid of.
Because that matters to me more than the number on the scale. If my bodyfat goes up, its usually because I ate too many calories and ate some carbs. I will know instantly because I will get some dimples on the side of my left leg.(must be my storage unit) that was the place it was last to leave and the first place to come back. I did Atkins when I first needed to lose weight 3 years ago. I lost 20 pounds in three weeks, then switched to low fat like I lived all through my 20's.(Didn't know about low carb back then)because I still had alot of cellulite and I thought the fats were causing it. I also do more exercise than anyone I know. I only got rid of the last bit over the past 6 months by combining lowfat and low carb along with my cardio to the extremes. My life now revolves around constantly checking my leg for any return of bumps and dents, I am scared Atkins will bring it back. But I want to do it badly, scared to risk it though.


you might consider that caffeine can contribute to cellulite...it causes some weaknesses in connective tissue apparantly (so i read)...eat more fat, it doesnt make you get cellulite. if you are a low carber you by nature will become more of a "high fatter"...fat doesnt make you fat, sugar does. sugar is EASY FUEL for the body, when you flood the engine with too much fuel it has to go somewhere...it goes on your orgrans, under your skin, between muscle cells and in fat stores as FAT.

Earthquake
Fri, Jan-12-07, 08:53
fat has helped me stay on track, and I could not do this low fat.


i SWEAR to this day that when you experience a stall if you UP YOUR FATS you kick the body into that fat burning mode and it stays there. I added heavy cream to my diet this week and even though that probably upped my cals by 300-400 a day I dropped a lb and a half. amazing.

joesfolks
Fri, Jan-12-07, 08:57
Have you tried tuna and egg salad? Just all boiled egg to you rregualar tuna salad mix. I think it is an old Pennsylvania Dutch thing. It is quite delicious.

KvonM
Fri, Jan-12-07, 09:14
Can you promise me that adding fats(I will not be adding carbs)like using real eggs instead off eggbeaters because I am scared of the fat content in a real egg, will not bring back any cellulite, which I worked so hard to get rid of.
*snip*
My life now revolves around constantly checking my leg for any return of bumps and dents, I am scared Atkins will bring it back. But I want to do it badly, scared to risk it though.
bkloots is absolutely right, your body needs fat in order to function correctly. and as far as the bumpiness on the back of your leg... the dimpling is caused by the way the fat cells and connective tissue lie under your skin. while it may become less visible as you lose fat, the connective tissue is still there, it's always been there, it'll always be there. watch any of the cosmetic surgery shows where someone's getting liposuction... they'll talk about how the doctor has to sometimes break through the small tangles of tissue in order to smooth out the area, and also to get at the fat stores underneath.

when you mention that you immediately gain weight, remember that any big jumps or losses (like 4-7lbs or so) in weight are going to be water. water weight goes away quickly compared to fat weight. you need to give your body some time to adjust to the switch... that's a small part of the reason atkins says to go 2 weeks on induction.

obsessive
Sat, Jan-13-07, 07:35
I want to stay where I am at now without struggling so hard, so I will start to add some fat, like some real eggs(which I tried yesterday and taste like crap compared to my eggbeaters, I think I even burped fat yuk.) And eat more than my 1 gram total of meat and poultry.
I had a friend who always told me I needed some good fat in my diet because our brains need fat for proper fuctioning. And that would help with my moods and "obsessive" behaviors. I thought she was telling me that because she wanted me to get fat. She is no longer my friend now, she got a boob job and decided she was too good for everyone.
Thank you, I am a stubborn women but I do listen.

obsessive
Sat, Jan-13-07, 15:12
I decided to start adding fat yesterday, after exercise and eating two eggs my ketosis strip was purple(never seen it like that because I was never eating fat) but then it went away.So reading some stuff today on Atkins and Stillman's it said Aspartame takes it away. I thought good I use Splenda.
I checked my water I have been drinking for the past year "Clear American" from Walmart. IT HAS ASPARTAME! No wonder everything I have tried, the strips are always negative. Oh I am so MAD!

bkloots
Sat, Jan-13-07, 17:44
Those strips are notoriously unpredictable from one person to another. Ketosis/lipolysis is evidence that you are burning body fat, not just dietary fat, so I can't explain your experience. Don't know the effect of aspartame.

I do encourage you to continue adding some fat to your menu. You'll feel better.

KvonM
Sat, Jan-13-07, 19:53
along with adding the fat, you may want to increase your animal protein. i'm not sure what your reasoning is behind limiting your meat to less than 1g... i know lowcarbing can be done in conjunction with being vegetarian, but i also know it severely limits you with what foods you've got to choose from.

Kisal
Sat, Jan-13-07, 21:40
I had a friend who always told me I needed some good fat in my diet because our brains need fat for proper fuctioning.
There are certain vitamins that can only be obtained by eating fat, and a diet that lacks suffient fat will have a detrimental effect on your overall health. Vitamin A is one fat soluble vitamin, and Vitamin K is another, but there are even more. Vitamin K helps your blood clot, which is very important because it is what keeps you from bleeding to death from what would ordinarily be considered a "minor" injury. Your entire body needs fats.

obsessive
Sun, Jan-14-07, 08:05
I am so tired of living obsessed. You probablly think, if this gal doesn't eat fat or carbs, and in times of a 5 pound fluxuation, restricts calories, where do I get my energy to run 7 miles every day?
Pure craziness! And I'm sick of it.
And the aspartame thing I freaked on was because I read some Stillman Diet stuff on the computer and it said Aspartame will pull you out of ketosis.
But in some body building sites they said , no it doesn't have any effect.

(bkloots you live in MIZZ- I do too, on the Air Force Base )

bkloots
Sun, Jan-14-07, 08:28
Yep, Show Me gal.

IMHO, bodybuilding sites provide BAD information for regular people, especially low-carbers. It's an entirely different universe of nutrition and exercise, and if I were you, I'd avoid using those sites as a reference.

I'd say the same thing about specialized sites for runners. They emphasize entirely different programs for the purpose of fueling cardio endurance.

So, in spite of being obsessed, don't try to cherry-pick from conflicting plans. A good lo-carb nutrition plan, combined with moderate, regular exercise that includes cardio and resistance training will be your best bet.

weezerchic
Sun, Jan-14-07, 09:45
Yep, Show Me gal.

IMHO, bodybuilding sites provide BAD information for regular people, especially low-carbers. It's an entirely different universe of nutrition and exercise, and if I were you, I'd avoid using those sites as a reference.

I'd say the same thing about specialized sites for runners. They emphasize entirely different programs for the purpose of fueling cardio endurance.

So, in spite of being obsessed, don't try to cherry-pick from conflicting plans. A good lo-carb nutrition plan, combined with moderate, regular exercise that includes cardio and resistance training will be your best bet.
well said maam
i am still sunscribved to my fitness magazines... but they have charts for excersis. but i dont litsen to their dier advice.. i would starve to death

bkloots
Sun, Jan-14-07, 10:12
The other day, I saw a copy of a new fitness magazine, Women's Health. It's a companion magazine to Men's Health which I've always enjoyed reading. Good information, good attitude. If you like fitness magazines, check out this one. Or both of them, for that matter.

KvonM
Sun, Jan-14-07, 12:49
I am so tired of living obsessed.
if you're tired of pushing yourself so hard and holding yourself to such standards, then maybe you should take a minute to re-evaluate why you're doing it... is it for yourself or for someone else?

if you're fed up, then give yourself a break. i'm certainly not saying you should go become a couch potato and eat nothing but chips, cookies, and ice cream all day, but if you can relax your self-imposed stringent guidelines and still eat healthy foods within the low-carb ideals, you might find that not only is your mind happier, your body might be too.

obsessive
Sun, Jan-14-07, 14:18
I don't want to look like a normal person. I like looking the way I do.I look better than the personal trainers at my gym. I like looking like a fitness model. I am just tired of being obsessed with the idea all my hard work will go down the drain if I don't work out 1 day or if I eat something thats not fat free or has a couple carbs. Every one tells me "its o.k. eat it, it won't hurt you to eat it." Or "you need carbs to live" I have done something right for the past 15 years to look so good. Well except when I was pregnant with my second kid and I didn't exercise and eat boxes of taquitos. Its all the exercise, I know it is. Even if its fat free or no carbs...at least I am eating and not starving myself.
Well I don't want to look like the carbed up weight lifter or like when I was a gymnast.I like the skinny muscular look. And eating no carbs help me acheive it. I decided to add some good fat because with all my running I want to keep the muscle. But I don't eat like a runner because they eat alot of carbs. Carbs will puff me out even with all my running. I am not going to run 7 miles to burn carbs. I run to stay skinny.

weezerchic
Mon, Jan-15-07, 07:17
I want to stay where I am at now without struggling so hard, so I will start to add some fat, like some real eggs(which I tried yesterday and taste like crap compared to my eggbeaters, I think I even burped fat yuk.) And eat more than my 1 gram total of meat and poultry.
I had a friend who always told me I needed some good fat in my diet because our brains need fat for proper fuctioning. And that would help with my moods and "obsessive" behaviors. I thought she was telling me that because she wanted me to get fat. She is no longer my friend now, she got a boob job and decided she was too good for everyone.
Thank you, I am a stubborn women but I do listen.
sorry o hear ypur friend got a job and is now a snob? whats up with that.

weezerchic
Mon, Jan-15-07, 07:20
The other day, I saw a copy of a new fitness magazine, Women's Health. It's a companion magazine to Men's Health which I've always enjoyed reading. Good information, good attitude. If you like fitness magazines, check out this one. Or both of them, for that matter.
oh yes.. those mags are hot... LOL