Nuts are good for diabetics?

[Kumar]

Hello,

Many articles indicate that nuts are good substitution for
diabetics. These may also hve low GI. I think previously these
were not adviced for diabetics.

"Nuts and The Glycemic Index (GI) Low in net carbs, nuts have
a low-GI value and are typically rich in monounsaturated fat
which is believed to reduce the risk of cardiovascular
disease. Almonds, regular peanuts, walnuts and Brazil nuts are
good food choices. Although low on the glycemic index, nuts
are calorie-dense and should be eaten in moderation. That
said, diet trials show that nuts have a high satiety factor
which means they satisfy appetite and help prevent overeating.
http://www.carbs-information.com/gi-value-nuts.htm "

"Nuts contain lots of fat, but most fats in nuts are mono- and
polyunsaturated fats, which are good for insulin sensitivity
and serum cholesterol. Nuts are also rich in antioxidant
vitamins, minerals, plant protein and dietary fiber." "To
avoid increase in caloric intake, people should not simply add
nuts on the top of the diet. Instead, people should substitute
nuts for less healthy foods such as refined carbohydrates like
white bread and red meats."

The study was supported in part by grants from the National
Institutes for Health http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/press/rele-
ases/press11262002.html "

Can you comment on it?

Best wishes.

[capmack]

Thank you for not cross posting to cardiology as it only
attracts the bad behavior of abc. As you are a diabetic, his
advice is best ignored because he has a non-scientific agenda
that drives his responses. He has not kept up on current
literature in diabetes and misleads people by having a one
track mind about treatment. Thank you again for your
cooperation in this area which can only make for better
communication and beter response to your questions and
contributions.

[Kumar]

capmack@shipper.com wrote:
> Thank you for not cross posting to cardiology as it only
> attracts the bad behavior of abc. As you are a diabetic, his
> advice is best ignored because he has a non-scientific
> agenda that drives his responses. He has not kept up on
> current literature in diabetes and misleads people by having
> a one track mind about treatment. Thank you again for your
> cooperation in this area which can only make for better
> communication and beter response to your questions and
> contributions.

Let me see, if I can get better response as you thought.

[Ron Peters]

Kumar wrote:
> capmack@shipper.com wrote:
> > Thank you for not cross posting to cardiology as it only
> > attracts the bad behavior of abc. As you are a diabetic,
> > his advice is best ignored because he has a non-scientific
> > agenda that drives his responses. He has not kept up on
> > current literature in diabetes and misleads people by
> > having a one track mind about treatment. Thank you again
> > for your cooperation in this area which can only make for
> > better communication and beter response to your questions
> > and contributions.

> Let me see, if I can get better response as you thought.

http://www.alaskaseafood.org/flavor/omega3_diabetes.pdf
indicates that a high omega 3 diet combined with low saturated
fats retards the development of diabetes type II. Since most
nuts, except walnuts, aren't high in omega 3, I don't know if
that recommendation can be extrapolated to a high nut diet.

--
Ron

[capmack]

"Let me see, if I can get better response as you thought."

How can you evaluate the response you get? Abc responds in
very cryptic forms, he is only interested in gaining an
audience for his non-scientific agenda and takes advantage of
your posts to do so.

May I suggest you make use of the medline search enjine which
with careful search term selection will provide you answers to
most of your specific questions. The broader questions will be
best addressed by other diabetics who in total have hundreds
of lifeyears of experience and research to respond.

Doing this will cut abc out of the loop and cut him off from
the audience and attention he craves so desperately, and
others from the bad behavior he displays and attempts to force
his way into groups where he is not welcome because of it.

[Kumar]

Proctologically Violated=A9=AE wrote:
> Doesn't seem reasonable to talk of "low glycemic index" and
> "high glycemic load". Usually it's either high glycemic
> index and high glycemic load (l=
ot
> of simple sugars at once), or high glycemic index and low
> glycemic load, meaning simple sugars, but not a lot of them.
>
> And since nuts have virtually no carbohydrate, then yes good
> for diabetic=
s=2E
> Ito their PUFA composition and CVD, depends on the nut, but
> nuts are usua=
lly
> pretty good for you, aflatoxins notwithstanding (peanuts).
> --
> ------
> Mr. P.V.'d (formerly Droll Troll), Yonkers, NY

Thanks. I think these also reduces gas in abdomen, clear
motions and reduce abdomen's circumfrance(probably vat. Btw,
whether PUFA in nuts is senstive to oxidation?

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> >
> > Thorsten Schier wrote:
> >> kumar schrieb: High nut consumption is associated with a
> >> significant reduction in coronay heart disease (CHD). As
> >> CHD is the leading cause of death for diabetics,
> >> diabetics profit from eating nuts even more than the rest
> >> of us.
> >>
> >> Thorsten
> >
> > Whether consumption of nuts can lower high BP?
> >
> > " Carbohydrates that break down rapidly during digestion
> > have the highest glycemic indices. Such carbohydrates
> > require less energy to be converted into glucose, which
> > results in faster digestion and a quicker increase of
> > blood glucose. Carbohydrates that break down slowly,
> > releasing glucose gradually into the blood stream, have a
> > low glycemic index. A lower glycemic index suggests slower
> > rates of digestion and absorption of the sugars and
> > starches in the foods and may also indicate greater
> > extraction from the liver and periphery of the products of
> > carbohydrate digestion. Additionally, a lower glycemic
> > response equates to a lower insulin demand, better
> > long-term blood glucose control and a reduction in blood
> > lipids. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_index "
> >
> > In view of above, will foods with low glycemic index anf
> > high glycemic load can be a reson to contuinual insulin's
> > secretion due to slow but proplonged absorptions?
> >

[Proctologi]

Doesn't seem reasonable to talk of "low glycemic index" and
"high glycemic load". Usually it's either high glycemic index
and high glycemic load (lot of simple sugars at once), or high
glycemic index and low glycemic load, meaning simple sugars,
but not a lot of them.

And since nuts have virtually no carbohydrate, then yes good
for diabetics. Ito their PUFA composition and CVD, depends on
the nut, but nuts are usually pretty good for you, aflatoxins
notwithstanding (peanuts).
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------
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"Kumar" <lordshiva5753@rediffmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Thorsten Schier wrote:
>> kumar schrieb: High nut consumption is associated with a
>> significant reduction in coronay heart disease (CHD). As
>> CHD is the leading cause of death for diabetics, diabetics
>> profit from eating nuts even more than the rest of us.
>>
>> Thorsten
>
> Whether consumption of nuts can lower high BP?
>
> " Carbohydrates that break down rapidly during digestion
> have the highest glycemic indices. Such carbohydrates
> require less energy to be converted into glucose, which
> results in faster digestion and a quicker increase of blood
> glucose. Carbohydrates that break down slowly, releasing
> glucose gradually into the blood stream, have a low glycemic
> index. A lower glycemic index suggests slower rates of
> digestion and absorption of the sugars and starches in the
> foods and may also indicate greater extraction from the
> liver and periphery of the products of carbohydrate
> digestion. Additionally, a lower glycemic response equates
> to a lower insulin demand, better long-term blood glucose
> control and a reduction in blood lipids.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_index "
>
> In view of above, will foods with low glycemic index anf
> high glycemic load can be a reson to contuinual insulin's
> secretion due to slow but proplonged absorptions?

[Italiangm]

Kumar wrote:

> Thanks but we have many somewhat opposing theories to each
> other. As such can oils in nuts promote more free radical
> activities?

Oil in nuts will eventually go rancid, an indication of
oxidation. When they do, they are more prone to free radical
promotion.

On the other hand, oil contained in whole nuts tends to
oxidize slower than oil extracted from those same nuts.
Refrigerating nuts helps prevent oxidation too.

> How can we evaulate effect of nuts with their vitamins and
> minerals constituents?

By reviewing published studies on nutrients contained in nuts
and their effect on various body systems. There are a couple
of studies measuring positive effects of walnuts on blood
vessels, for example.

[Herman Rub]

In article
<1163993667.544280.119850@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, kumar
<lordshiva5753@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>Hello,

>Many articles indicate that nuts are good substitution for
>diabetics. These may also hve low GI. I think previously
>these were not adviced for diabetics.

>"Nuts and The Glycemic Index (GI) Low in net carbs, nuts have
>a low-GI value and are typically rich in monounsaturated fat
>which is believed to reduce the risk of cardiovascular
>disease. Almonds, regular peanuts, walnuts and Brazil nuts
>are good food choices. Although low on the glycemic index,
>nuts are calorie-dense and should be eaten in moderation.
>That said, diet trials show that nuts have a high satiety
>factor which means they satisfy appetite and help prevent
>overeating.
>http://www.carbs-information.com/gi-value-nuts.htm "

All of this is correct, except I do not find they have that
high a satiety factor; I nosh on nuts too much.

>"Nuts contain lots of fat, but most fats in nuts are mono-
>and polyunsaturated fats, which are good for insulin
>sensitivity and serum cholesterol. Nuts are also rich in
>antioxidant vitamins, minerals, plant protein and dietary
>fiber." "To avoid increase in caloric intake, people should
>not simply add nuts on the top of the diet. Instead, people
>should substitute nuts for less healthy foods such as refined
>carbohydrates like white bread and red meats."

>The study was supported in part by grants from the National
>Institutes for Health http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/press/rele-
>ases/press11262002.html "

>Can you comment on it?

Nuts do not strike me as an ideal food, but just about
everything above is essentially correct. I do not know if nuts
have enough vitamin E to counteract the tendency of
polyunsaturates to oxidize, but addition of vitamin E should
take care of that. Nuts have LOTS of calories, and do have
enough carbohydrates to take care of whatever may be needed of
those. They are considered a good source of protein, but of
this I am not convinced; both peanuts and almonds seem to have
about 15% of their calories from protein, or 1 gram of protein
for 25 calories.

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these views are those of the Statistics Department or of
Purdue University. Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics,
Purdue University hrubin@stat.purdue.edu Phone: (765)494-6054
FAX: (765)494-0558

[Susan]

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Herman Rubin wrote:

> All of this is correct, except I do not find they have that
> high a satiety factor; I nosh on nuts too much.

Both things can be true. If I sit with an open container of
nuts, I'll habitually reach in for another all the time
without regard to quantity.

But I've also found that 5 or 10 nuts taken out of a bag or
container is a very satisfying snack. It's kind of habit
over hunger.

Susan

[Eleaticus]

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> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Herman Rubin wrote:
>
> > All of this is correct, except I do not find they have
> > that high a satiety factor; I nosh on nuts too much.

Salt?

>
> Both things can be true. If I sit with an open container of
> nuts, I'll habitually reach in for another all the time
> without regard to quantity.

Salt?

--
eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus eleaticus@bellsouth.net

[Herman Rub]

In article
<1164077826.251500.39970@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, Kumar
<lordshiva5753@rediffmail.com> wrote:

>Ron Peterson wrote:
>> Kumar wrote:
>> > capmack@shipper.com wrote:
>> http://www.alaskaseafood.org/flavor/omega3_diabetes.pdf
>> indicates that a high omega 3 diet combined with low
>> saturated fats retards the development of diabetes type II.
>> Since most nuts, except walnuts, aren't high in omega 3, I
>> don't know if that recommendation can be extrapolated to a
>> high nut diet.

--
>> Ron

>Thanks but we have many somewhat opposing theories to each
>other. As such can oils in nuts promote more free radical
>activities?

> How can we evaulate effect of nuts with their vitamins and
> minerals constituents?

Sufficient vitamin E will prevent the free radical activities
of unsaturated, and particularly polyunsaturated, fats.

--
This address is for information only. I do not claim that
these views are those of the Statistics Department or of
Purdue University. Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics,
Purdue University hrubin@stat.purdue.edu Phone: (765)494-6054
FAX: (765)494-0558

[Eleaticus]

"italiangm" <italiangm@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Kumar wrote:
>
> > Thanks but we have many somewhat opposing theories to each
> > other. As such can oils in nuts promote more free radical
> > activities?
>
> Oil in nuts will eventually go rancid, an indication of
> oxidation. When they do, they are more prone to free radical
> promotion.

Oops. Excuse me while I move my almond flour to the fridge!

--
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[Ozgirl]

eleaticus wrote:
> "italiangm" <italiangm@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
news:1164132938.870826.274470@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> Kumar wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks but we have many somewhat opposing theories to
each other.
>> > As such can oils in nuts promote more free radical
activities?
>>
>> Oil in nuts will eventually go rancid, an indication of
oxidation.
>> When they do, they are more prone to free radical
promotion.
>
> Oops. Excuse me while I move my almond flour to the
fridge!

I freeze my nuts! My walnuts that is :) I buy them from a hot
nut bar, not supermarket stuff, freeze them as soon as I get
home. The high fat content doesn't allow them to freeze rock
hard and you can eat them straight from the freezer. Nice with
a couple of fresh olives (I don't eat canned or bottled
olives) and some fetta or brie.

[Susan]

x-no-archive: yes

Ozgirl wrote:

> I freeze my nuts! My walnuts that is :) I buy them from a
> hot nut bar, not supermarket stuff, freeze them as soon as I
> get home. The high fat content doesn't allow them to freeze
> rock hard and you can eat them straight from the freezer.
> Nice with a couple of fresh olives (I don't eat canned or
> bottled olives) and some fetta or brie.

I keep all nuts and seeds in the freezer.

Susan

[Kumar]

Thorsten Schier wrote:
> kumar schrieb: High nut consumption is associated with a
> significant reduction in coronay heart disease (CHD). As CHD
> is the leading cause of death for diabetics, diabetics
> profit from eating nuts even more than the rest of us.
>
> Thorsten

How?

How nuts impact insulin's secretion? Their slow digestion and
low GI are to be related.

[korax1214]

capmack@shipper.com wrote:

> Thank you for not cross posting to cardiology as it only
> attracts the bad behavior of abc. As you are a diabetic, his
> advice is best ignored because he has a non-scientific
> agenda that drives his responses. He has not kept up on
> current literature in diabetes and misleads people by having
> a one track mind about treatment. Thank you again for your
> cooperation in this area which can only make for better
> communication and beter response to your questions and
> contributions.

As I said before, ABC is one of the nuts which aren't good for
diabetics. :-)

[Ozgirl]

dorsy1943 wrote:
> Ozgirl, your answer leads to another question. My
daughter heard at a
> La Leche League meeting that freezing destroys vitamin E.
I always
> put wheat germ in the freezer until I heard this and I
still freeze my
> sprouted whole wheat bread. Do you or anyone else know if
there is
> any truth in this? If vitamin E is safe in the freezer, I
think
> freezing nuts is a good idea.

Well, all I can say is that the nuts don't freeze, they are
just cool. If they weren't mostly fat then they would freeze
solid so it might be a different scenario then.

[Ron Peters]

Kumar wrote:

> Thanks but we have many somewhat opposing theories to each
> other. As such can oils in nuts promote more free radical
> activities?

In storage, PUFAs may oxidize to produce harmful compounds,
but once in the body (in vivo), harmful oxidization may be a
minor effect. Fatty acids are normally oxidized to provide
energy for the cells with some being better than others.

> How can we evaulate effect of nuts with their vitamins and
> minerals constituents?

Those things can be separated and tested individually.

--
Ron

[Kumar]

Ron Peterson wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
>
> > Thanks but we have many somewhat opposing theories to each
> > other. As such can oils in nuts promote more free radical
> > activities?
>
> In storage, PUFAs may oxidize to produce harmful compounds,
> but once in the body (in vivo), harmful oxidization may be a
> minor effect. Fatty acids are normally oxidized to provide
> energy for the cells with some being better than others.
>
> > How can we evaulate effect of nuts with their vitamins
> > and minerals constituents?
>
> Those things can be separated and tested individually.
>
> --
> Ron

Thanks. How different types of fats stimulate bile's secretion
differently? I read that milk fat/pure ghee stimulate more
bile secretion in intestine and so more bile excretion
resulting into control of cholesterols?

How different type of absorbed fats exist in body? Do they
exist in same chain/bond fatty acids or different?

[Herman Rub]

In article <MbK8h.4473$k6.2845@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
eleaticus <eleaticus@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>"Susan" <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in message
>news:4sh3mmFs7aueU1@mid.individual.net...
>> x-no-archive: yes

>> Herman Rubin wrote:

>> > All of this is correct, except I do not find they have
>> > that high a satiety factor; I nosh on nuts too much.

>Salt?

>> Both things can be true. If I sit with an open container of
>> nuts, I'll habitually reach in for another all the time
>> without regard to quantity.

>Salt?

I prefer lightly salted, but the unsalted ones are quite good
also. I personally do not like the ones with the "regular"
amount of salt or more.
--
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these views are those of the Statistics Department or of
Purdue University. Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics,
Purdue University hrubin@stat.purdue.edu Phone: (765)494-6054
FAX: (765)494-0558

[Herman Rub]

In article <4sm92kF109t3aU4@mid.individual.net>, Susan
<Susan@nothanks.org> wrote:
>x-no-archive: yes

>Herman Rubin wrote:

>> I prefer lightly salted, but the unsalted ones are quite
>> good also. I personally do not like the ones with the
>> "regular" amount of salt or more.

>Depends upon the nut in my case. I prefer roasted almonds,
>pecans and walnuts and hazelnuts unsalted. I like a boatload
>of salt on macadamias and lots of salt to no salt on cashews.

Chacun a son gout. Salt on macadamias?

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these views are those of the Statistics Department or of
Purdue University. Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics,
Purdue University hrubin@stat.purdue.edu Phone: (765)494-6054
FAX: (765)494-0558

[Susan]

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Herman Rubin wrote:

> I prefer lightly salted, but the unsalted ones are quite
> good also. I personally do not like the ones with the
> "regular" amount of salt or more.

Depends upon the nut in my case. I prefer roasted almonds,
pecans and walnuts and hazelnuts unsalted. I like a boatload
of salt on macadamias and lots of salt to no salt on cashews.

Susan

[Kumar]

willbill wrote:
> Herman Rubin wrote: but then again... not if you eat
> much of them
>
> also, you need to distinguish between *raw* nuts vs
> cooked nuts
>
> in my own extensive experience, a max of a half cup of raw
> nuts is very satiating
>
> whereas with cooked nuts (dry "roasted" or fried or
> whatever), it is easy to eat a pound bag of cooked nuts
> (even if they are unsalted) and still want more.

Sometimes I fell salt (may be cooking--roasting, frying) can
be related to abnormal hunger and cravings? Sodium and glucose
are cotransported. I feel, cooking--roasting or frying may be
related to glycation and so inflammatory responses.

[Kumar]

willbill wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
>
> > willbill wrote:
>
> >> Herman Rubin wrote:
>
> >>> Nuts have LOTS of calories,
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> >> true
> >>
> >> but then again... not if you eat much of them
> >>
> >> also, you need to distinguish between *raw* nuts vs
> >> cooked nuts
> >>
> >> in my own extensive experience, a max of a half cup of
> >> raw nuts is very satiating
> >>
> >> whereas with cooked nuts (dry "roasted" or fried or
> >> whatever), it is easy to eat a pound bag of cooked nuts
> >> (even if they are unsalted) and still want more.
>
>
> > Sometimes I fell salt (may be cooking--roasting, frying)
> > can be related to abnormal hunger and cravings?
>
>
> > Sodium and glucose are cotransported.
glucose: absorbed mainly in jejunum by active process enters
via a co-transporter protein on the apical side of the
enterocyte co-transporter requires presence of sodium ions
sodium ions pass down electrochemical gradient into cell to
replace sodium ions which are actively being transported out
of cell on basolateral membrane by Na+/K+ ATPase pump glucose
diffuses out of cell into intercellular space and from there
to local capillaries chloride ions and water accompany the
movement of sodium and glucose; they may travel through the
cell or through the intercellular space
http://www.gpnotebook.co.uk/cache/1208352807.htm
>
> not sure what you mean by "cotransported"
>
> i looked up transport, but i'd rather not guess
>
>
> > I feel, cooking--roasting or frying may be related to
> > glycation and so inflammatory responses.
>
>
> also not sure what you mean by this
>
> =========
>
> in my own experience, the only good nuts (or seeds), are
> either 1) those that are raw or 2) those that you
> (carefully) roast yourself in your own oven
>
> being careful to not overroast, which afaik can damage the
> fat(s) in the nuts
>
> commercially cooked nuts almost all seem to have had
> something "extra" done to them in order to increase one's
> appetite for more of them, even the unsalted ones
>
> my suggestion is to add raw nuts to your diet and slowly
> reach your own conclusion
>
> since you are a T2 diabetic, avoid raw cashew nuts because
> they have a somewhat higher carb content than others
>
> peanuts are a legume and also have somewhat higher carbs;
> raw peanuts taste very bad
>
> if you pay attention to labels, you can find decent peanut
> butter, especially in health food stores, but also in many
> ordinary supermarkets
>
> when my blood sugar permits, i do like a slice of bread (or
> a half slice) with peanut butter at bedtime
>
> yum. :)
>
> bill T1 since '57

[Willbill]

Kumar wrote:

> willbill wrote:

>> Herman Rubin wrote:

>>> Nuts have LOTS of calories,

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>> true
>>
>> but then again... not if you eat much of them
>>
>> also, you need to distinguish between *raw* nuts vs
>> cooked nuts
>>
>> in my own extensive experience, a max of a half cup of raw
>> nuts is very satiating
>>
>> whereas with cooked nuts (dry "roasted" or fried or
>> whatever), it is easy to eat a pound bag of cooked nuts
>> (even if they are unsalted) and still want more.

> Sometimes I fell salt (may be cooking--roasting, frying) can
> be related to abnormal hunger and cravings?

> Sodium and glucose are cotransported.

not sure what you mean by "cotransported"

i looked up transport, but i'd rather not guess

> I feel, cooking--roasting or frying may be related to
> glycation and so inflammatory responses.

also not sure what you mean by this

=========

in my own experience, the only good nuts (or seeds), are
either 1) those that are raw or 2) those that you (carefully)
roast yourself in your own oven

being careful to not overroast, which afaik can damage the
fat(s) in the nuts

commercially cooked nuts almost all seem to have had something
"extra" done to them in order to increase one's appetite for
more of them, even the unsalted ones

my suggestion is to add raw nuts to your diet and slowly reach
your own conclusion

since you are a T2 diabetic, avoid raw cashew nuts because
they have a somewhat higher carb content than others

peanuts are a legume and also have somewhat higher carbs; raw
peanuts taste very bad

if you pay attention to labels, you can find decent peanut
butter, especially in health food stores, but also in many
ordinary supermarkets

when my blood sugar permits, i do like a slice of bread (or a
half slice) with peanut butter at bedtime

yum. :)

bill T1 since '57

[Willbill]

willbill wrote:

> Thorsten Schier wrote:

>> kumar schrieb:

^^^^^^

ah

you are the one who gave the refs

>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Many articles indicate that nuts are good substitution for
>>> diabetics. These may also hve low GI. I think previously
>>> these were not adviced for diabetics.
>>>
>>> "Nuts and The Glycemic Index (GI) Low in net carbs, nuts
>>> have a low-GI value and are typically rich in
>>> monounsaturated fat which is believed to reduce the risk
>>> of cardiovascular disease. Almonds, regular peanuts,
>>> walnuts and Brazil nuts are good food choices. Although
>>> low on the glycemic index, nuts are calorie-dense and
>>> should be eaten in moderation. That said, diet trials show
>>> that nuts have a high satiety factor which means they
>>> satisfy appetite and help prevent overeating.
>>> http://www.carbs-information.com/gi-value-nuts.htm "

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

not much of a cite/site. :(

if you want useful info on glycemic index, try
www.mendosa.com/gi.htm as your starting point

>>>
>>> "Nuts contain lots of fat, but most fats in nuts are mono-
>>> and polyunsaturated fats, which are good for insulin
>>> sensitivity and serum cholesterol. Nuts are also rich in
>>> antioxidant vitamins, minerals, plant protein and dietary
>>> fiber." "To avoid increase in caloric intake, people
>>> should not simply add nuts on the top of the diet.
>>> Instead, people should substitute nuts for less healthy
>>> foods such as refined carbohydrates like white bread and
>>> red meats."
>>>
>>> The study was supported in part by grants from the
>>> National Institutes for Health http://www.hsph.harvard.ed-
>>> u/press/releases/press11262002.html "

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

short and seemingly to the point; but it gives no info
about raw nuts
vs. commercially processed nuts. :(

otoh, i've yet to find any site (or book) that discusses this

bill t1 since '57

>>>
>>> Can you comment on it?

> i give it a read in the next day (or two, because i may want
> to think about it)

[Mogster]

"willbill" <trek@worldwide.net> wrote in message
news:ek7d8102rrd@enews3.newsguy.com...
> willbill wrote:
>
>> Thorsten Schier wrote:
>
>>> kumar schrieb:
>
> ^^^^^^
>
> ah
>
> you are the one who gave the refs
>
>
Eh?

[Kumar]

willbill wrote:
> willbill wrote:
>
> > Thorsten Schier wrote:
>
> >> kumar schrieb:
>
> ^^^^^^
>
> ah
>
> you are the one who gave the refs
>
>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> Many articles indicate that nuts are good substitution
> >>> for diabetics. These may also hve low GI. I think
> >>> previously these were not adviced for diabetics.
> >>>
> >>> "Nuts and The Glycemic Index (GI) Low in net carbs, nuts
> >>> have a low-GI value and are typically rich in
> >>> monounsaturated fat which is believed to reduce the risk
> >>> of cardiovascular disease. Almonds, regular peanuts,
> >>> walnuts and Brazil nuts are good food choices. Although
> >>> low on the glycemic index, nuts are calorie-dense and
> >>> should be eaten in moderation. That said, diet trials
> >>> show that nuts have a high satiety factor which means
> >>> they satisfy appetite and help prevent overeating.
> >>> http://www.carbs-information.com/gi-value-nuts.htm "
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> not much of a cite/site. :(
>
> if you want useful info on glycemic index, try
> www.mendosa.com/gi.htm as your starting point
>
>
> >>>
> >>> "Nuts contain lots of fat, but most fats in nuts are
> >>> mono- and polyunsaturated fats, which are good for
> >>> insulin sensitivity and serum cholesterol. Nuts are also
> >>> rich in antioxidant vitamins, minerals, plant protein
> >>> and dietary fiber." "To avoid increase in caloric
> >>> intake, people should not simply add nuts on the top of
> >>> the diet. Instead, people should substitute nuts for
> >>> less healthy foods such as refined carbohydrates like
> >>> white bread and red meats."
> >>>
> >>> The study was supported in part by grants from the
> >>> National Institutes for Health http://www.hsph.harvard.-
> >>> edu/press/releases/press11262002.html "
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> short and seemingly to the point; but it gives no info about
> raw nuts
> vs. commercially processed nuts. :(
>
> otoh, i've yet to find any site (or book) that
> discusses this
>
> bill t1 since '57

You can try here;
http://nutritiondata.com/foods-012000000000000000000.html
>
> >>>
> >>> Can you comment on it?
>
>
> > i give it a read in the next day (or two, because i may
> > want to think about it)