I cannot wait to be in the 200s

[big_mama]

I'm so close, but I've been hanging around 300 for at least 2 weeks. Of course I had a slip up this weekend, but my goal for a week from tomorrow is to be in the 200s.

I was thinking, some people start out in the 200s and would dread being there. And I think how lovely it will be to be 299...298...297 :)

I can't wait to be in the 2s with all of you other TDCers! It's a battle, but we're all heading down! :)

[fatnfedup]

Here's hoping you see a 2 tommorow!! :daizy:

[Annie1gi]

Hang in there girl, you are so close, I remember that day so well...........ah, what a feeling of accomplishment.....now I just dream of Onderland!!!!!

Good luck, you will do this! :thup: :thup:

[Cajunboy47]

you said:

"I can't wait to be in the 2s with all of you other TDCers! It's a battle, but we're all heading down!"
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What's a TDCer?

CajunBoy47

[Stardust]

A Triple Digit Club's member, needing to lose 100+ lbs. :)

Good luck, Big Mamma.

[Cajunboy47]

Hi,

If you read this, and are a TDCer, my heart goes out to you. I lived with two TDCer's (wife and daughter).

My wife is now an EX-wife. She lost weight by gastric bypass and when her weight went from 320 to 165, her attitude was totally different. This is only the short story and you won't get the long one, so if you feel a misunderstanding or lack of sensitivity on my part, remember, you don't know me.... Anyway, her success at weight loss, done entirely her way was part of what led to our divorce. We were married 30 years, I watched her struggle before, during and after her bypass. I never once made her feel bad about her weight at any time. Nothing but love. The bypass was in 86, the divorce in 99.

My daughter developed her weight problem over a few years span till she topped 300 and at age 30 opted for lap-band surgery, cause she knew what her mom went through was too drastic. My daughter is still losing, is hovering now around 200 and is still trying to lose. She has been in a very loving relationship since age 19, but with her new found weight loss, she is having the same attiude changes as her mom and I see a relationship heading for trouble. I have spoken to her with all proper sensitivity, but she is still choosing what seems to me as a path of destruction of her relationship. Her other half, by the way, his weight was up to 425 and lost his weight through Atkins and keeps his weight around 220 but had it down to 185 at one time. He's almost 6'4", so at 220, he still look pretty good. He didn't develop an attitude change, except maybe for the better as he feels better about himself now.

From my viewpoint, the ex-wife and daughter chose what seemed to them as the easy way out and I think the two of them feel they got away with something. Money and science adjusted their problem. They were more by-standers than participaters. It is like they didn't earn what they have, so they don't appreciate it as much. I see them each paying a price for their attitude changes.

Now, my advice to all of you who are struggling to get your weight down from 300+ to whatever your desired goal is, please listen carefully to me. What is inside of you is the real person. Don't let the outside change the inside. People will see you differently, but try hard to always let your internal light shine so they can see you for who you are now and later. Be consistent and be happy at all times. Love everyone and always let them love you. It is important that you understand that you are losing weight and you are losing your lower-self-esteem, even you are ok with yourself now, you will become so drastically different visually and there will be forces to change how you interact with family, friends and the world. Be aware. They say "being forewarned is being forearmed".

Important to youself and your changes is your FOCUS. Earn your weight loss, stay with it and be proud of your daily accomplishments. Forgive yourself for any failures and get back on track as soon as you forgive. You must eat low carb or it will never happen. Atkins is a fine way, but I suggest that you consider what Dr Barry Groves has to say also. The two are very similar, but I think with the Groves diet, which allows for about 10% more fat, no induction period, you will feel more like you're living normally throughout your weight loss process. Let your new way of eating become your new habit replacing your old way of eating which was a bad habit.

Learn what the "Banting Diet" is. Interesting story and it can be found on the internet. It is the foundation of all low-carb diets and it is about 150 years old... Go learn more.

Now, back to my ex-wife and daughter. We all have a great relationship. The ex is still my friend, we each have significant others in our lives and we each have a great relationship with our daughter. To this date I have never criticized them for their weight, or their weight loss. We get together at birthdays, holidays, etc... no one has any animosity, no on critizes the other. Although they have attitude changes, I know the real person inside each of them and my love for them as they truly are will always exist. Even in my new relationship, my significant other understands how I feel and why. Love conquers all. Do all you do out of love.

I know your challenge and I support you. If any of you are diabetic, (I am also) I have some great tips, email me or something. We can talk more on that.

Cajunboy47

[SunnyCarol]

Hang in there and you will make it! What stopped me from letting my weight go even higher was when I saw 296 on the scale. I truly didn't want to get into the 300's. When you get into the 200's, use that fear of '300' keep you on track. I am struggling since I made into onderland, but I never want to be in the '200's' again, so that is what keeps me keeping on. You will make it soon and we will all celebrate together!

Sunny!

[j13]

Big Mama - I'm right there with you...11 lbs to go to 300, but I'm coming from 445+ - imagine how badly I want it! It's the biggest 11 lbs I've faced so far. Here's to getting there!

Cajunboy - while I agree with what you wrote, and appreciate it, it was also very off-topic for the thread (and rather presumptuous in tone..."my advice to all of you who are struggling to get your weight down from 300+ to whatever your desired goal is, please listen carefully to me..." comes off a bit arrogantly - it naturally leads the reader to question what it is that qualifies you as an expert...). If you want to discuss the body image and psychological elements of weight loss relating to that situation, try starting a new thread, perhaps in the emotional issues and body image forum located here:

http://forum.lowcarber.org/forumdisplay.php?f=121

That said, I do agree with a lot of what you said - it's just the wrong place for it.

-j.

[joylorene]

Cajunboy 47 - thank you for your experience - yes I know that weight loss changes people - I experienced that and then got scared and regained all my weight. Now I'm alot more wiser and understand that I am still me no matter my size and I don't have to act like someone different just because I was thin.

Thanks again!

Big Mama - you'll get there!!! You've taken the first steps now just look ahead!

[SunnyCarol]

Learn what the "Banting Diet" is. Interesting story and it can be found on the internet. It is the foundation of all low-carb diets and it is about 150 years old... Go learn more.

Cajunboy47And you are assuming that we in the TDC forum don't know about the "Banting Diet" why? It's covered in Dr. Atkins books. I have read the "Letter on Corpulence" in depth as I'm sure many of this forum has. Here's a link to Dr. Banting's letter right on the home page for this site: http://www.lowcarb.ca/corpulence/index.html. (http://www.lowcarb.ca/corpulence/index.html)

I answered you civilly when you were bashing Atkins (on another forum), without knowing what it is all about. Before you condescend to assume we all need to 'learn more,' I suggest you read and learn more about the diets that you know less about, like Atkins, before you proceed to think your chosen diet is so much better. We have all had to research and experiment to find out which eating plan works for each of us individually.

I didn't lose 107 pounds and improve all my blood lipids by not knowing what I am about. Many on this forum have done this and more and better. They also are well read on the subject of low carb. I'll put my reading list up against yours any day of the week. You are preaching to the choir on here.

Somehow, I don't think you are quite as 'sensitive' as you try to appear. In your very careful writing, I sense hostility and disdain for those of us that ever needed to lose 100+ pounds. I know that I don't feel any better after your little lecture.

Sunny!

[Cajunboy47]

Reply to J13:

Your comments:

"Cajunboy - while I agree with what you wrote, and appreciate it, it was also very off-topic for the thread (and rather presumptuous in tone..."my advice to all of you who are struggling to get your weight down from 300+ to whatever your desired goal is, please listen carefully to me..." comes off a bit arrogantly - it naturally leads the reader to question what it is that qualifies you as an expert...). If you want to discuss the body image and psychological elements of weight loss relating to that situation, try starting a new thread, perhaps in the emotional issues and body image forum located here: "

I dont' think any of us, including me are experts. As for why I posted in this thread, is the same reason as everyone else, to be supportive of the first poster. What a shame if she didn't get input from all possible viewpoints and all of our experiences.
Your presumption of my being arrogant is wrong. I love everyone including you and only wish for the best and if I shared something that is meaningless to you and it upset you, I am sorry for that, but really I an not sorry for what I wrote, because I truly wrote from my heart with good intentions. My conscience is clear. I don't think any of us can separate ourselves from our minds, so all physical things we do affect us psychologically and emotionally and if we ignore that, it will be a detriment to some other aspect of our lives at some point. "you can win the battle and still lose the war", "what good is it to to conquer the world and lose one's soul in the process". Those two quotes are from minds far superior to any thoughts I could originate. Everything has to do with everything.

I didn't suppose anything when I wrote what I did. I layed out that in my life, I watched two people I love make decisions without regard for their psycholical or emotional feelings and I see them struggliing now with other issues, remember early in my first post, I said I didn't want to tell the whole story and you are still just getting a part of it.

I am not an authority on anything. I have thoughts, feelings and a lot of enthusiasm. I have no shame about that.

I wish you the best in your pursuits.

Cajunboy47

[Cajunboy47]

To SunnyCarole,

Originally Posted by Cajunboy47

Learn what the "Banting Diet" is. Interesting story and it can be found on the internet. It is the foundation of all low-carb diets and it is about 150 years old... Go learn more.

Cajunboy47
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I guess in my eagerness and enthusiasm and knowing I write lengthly and was trying to cut down on the words, I should have said:

I just learned what the "Banting Diet" is at a much deeper understanding of it than the first time I read about it. I went back to it and learned so much more, perhaps someone else could also gain more appreciation from it if they would go back and read it as I did."

There is an old saying: "Just when you think you are most perfectly understood, surely that is when there will be a misundertanding". So I guess I am a victim of being misunderstood as many of us are at some point. :) I am probably being misunderstood now.

I wish I could wave a magic wand and make all the problems in the world go away, but unfortunately, I can't. I don't know where the magic wand is, and I would probably wave it the wrong way anyway, but my hope is this. If I can but help one person through my own efforts in even the smallest way, then I must choose to help or not help, realizing "I can be damned for doing or damned for not doing". My choice has aways been to take the risk of "being damned for doing".

love and peace to all of you.....

Cajunboy47

[MizKitty]

I'm so close, but I've been hanging around 300 for at least 2 weeks. Of course I had a slip up this weekend, but my goal for a week from tomorrow is to be in the 200s.

I was thinking, some people start out in the 200s and would dread being there. And I think how lovely it will be to be 299...298...297

I can't wait to be in the 2s with all of you other TDCers! It's a battle, but we're all heading down!

Way to go Big mama! Just keep staying the course!
I'm just a few pounds away from having triple digits to lose (100+), to having double digits to lose (99), a milestone I've been looking forward to. And I seem to have hit a frustrating stall too, despite staying very well on plan. Grrr!
We'll get there!!

[LCCamper]

big mama -
As one who has lost a lot of weight I have come to realize that sometimes weight loss is not a constant. It has taken me over 2 years to get from 475 to 307 and that equals roughly 1.62lbs average weight loss per week. In a typical month (in the beginning) I lost 15 to 20lbs then suddenly would not lose for a month to 6 weeks then suddenly another drop. I have been on this type of loss pattern since I broke 350lbs and I have learned to "wait on the weight" loss so to speak all the while sticking to my LC plan of eating.
I had to come to terms with the fact that I am not one of those steady weekly losers BUT I have proven to myself that it does eventually come off!

You are going to do this and even though the scale doesn't show the fruits of all your efforts - yet - trust me - it will! :agree:
Hang in there.........
Hugs, Linda

[MicheleK]

Hang in there hun!! You WILL DO THIS!!!!!! :)



To Cajunboy: You're right we don't know you, and it's hard sometime to show true emotion in typed text...HOWEVER, this thread was originally started by big_mama as a support thread. So, IMHO your 2 cents on dieting for TDC'ers was really out of place.

I wasn't so offended by what you said, just the place you said it.

[LiveWell]

:thup: Your almost there! Keep it up and you'll be posting about being close to the 100's!!

[Cajunboy47]

To SunnyCarole again:

Quoting part of your reply to me:

"I didn't lose 107 pounds and improve all my blood lipids by not knowing what I am about. Many on this forum have done this and more and better. They also are well read on the subject of low carb. I'll put my reading list up against yours any day of the week. You are preaching to the choir on here.

Somehow, I don't think you are quite as 'sensitive' as you try to appear. In your very careful writing, I sense hostility and disdain for those of us that ever needed to lose 100+ pounds. I know that I don't feel any better after your little lecture."

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I am learning from you and others. I used these words in my first post "my advice". Of course everything I would say from that point would be seeing as "lecturing", you are correct. I should have written the paragraph and the suceeding one as this:

To all of you who are struggling to get their weight down from 300+ to whatever their desired goal is, in my experience, those who truly care about you know, what is inside of you is the real person. From my experience, I want to share with you to be careful that you don't let the outside change the inside as I have seen this first hand.

In my experience, people will see us differently (I too, at 200+ experience this with those at 300+), and if we let our internal light shine so they can see us for who we are now and later, consistently and try to be happy at all times, and if we love everyone and always let them love us, we will win the battle and the war.

(I entered this forum as a 200+ person who still loves two people who were once 300+ pound people and if I have any hostility, it is anger at loses in my life because I did not understand certain things early enough. I was close minded and didn't heed others in some cases. In other cases, I chose to ignore learning things for myself that led to my serious health issues I have to deal with today. I am obese. Obesity for all of us is a serious issue to our health, right? I have very strong feelings as I don't want others to suffer needlessly as I did and if I state something empathically and it offends, that isn't where my heart is. I don't think I should achieve perfection before helping others.)

I just recently learned the importance of while we are losing weight, we are losing our lower-self-esteem, even if we are ok with ourselves now. We will become so drastically different visually and there will be forces to change how we interact with family, friends and the world. I am now realizing we need to be aware of these influences as it can affect our physical, psychological and emotional acheivements. A saying: "being forewarned is being forearmed". I realize now how important this is to keep in mind.

This is just how I feel and I hope this might help someone else too:

Our battle is staying FOCUSED . Earning our weight loss through our effors, maintaining it through our efforts and being proud of our daily efforts is our war. Forgiving ourselves for any failures (a lost battle from not being focused) and getting back on track as soon as we forgive ourselves can be prevent the loss of the War ( our daily battle).

I am shaing the following, because I am excited about something new I am experiencing:

We all know we must eat low carb or it will never happen. Atkins is a fine way! I have done Atkins many times and lost weight each time, but somehow I had urges to go off of it and cheat and now I am following a diet recommended by Dr Barry Groves and my successes seem easier than Atkins without those cheating urges and it seems easier on my body. The two are very similar, except the Groves diet allows about 10% more fat and no induction period. I feel more like I'm living normally during this period of my weight loss process. This new way of eating is going to become my new habit replacing my old way of eating which was a bad habit. For me, maybe no one else in the world, higher fat eliminates my cravings. This is a newly gained insight for me. I hope my sharing this helps someone.

I asked my better half to read all of this thread from top to bottom including my comments. Her response to me was:

"You care too much. You always put all your passion and energy into something when you do it. I wish these people knew you like I do, but unfortunately for them, they don't. Unfortunately for you, they don't. I know you understand their struggle as being the same as yours. Just do what you feel is right and if it is with a good spirit, all will be ok."

love and peace to all,

Cajunboy47

[Charran]

big mama...I understand your excitement, being at the threshold of crossing a border myself! Just seeing a new number will be such a wonderful feeling. Good luck to you! You can do it and it isn't that far away! :daizy:

[Cajunboy47]

IMHO..... ??? not familiar with that expression.
Can someone enlighten me on the meaning?

[LCCamper]

IMHO - "In My Humble Opinion"

[big_mama]

IMHO= in my honest opinion

Thanks for all the support! I weighed this morning and I was at 302. I'm so excited to get into the 200s and I will watch the scale closely after that to NEVER get to 300 EVER again. I've been faithful this week and really doing well and it feels good. With the increased exercise I have alot more energy.

Cajun...sorry about the way weightloss affected your life. One of the things I am struggling with is changing my destructive mindset that I have gotten into when it comes to weight. I'm trying to do this through journaling and alot of self-reflection. I do agree this conversation may be more appropriate in the self-image strong...that way more people can see it and give input.


Thank you and good luck to all of you. Hopefully I will be posting next week that I'm in the 200s! :)

[Lisa N]

IMHO..... ??? not familiar with that expression.
Can someone enlighten me on the meaning?

A listing of common abbreviations used here and elsewhere on the internet can be found here (http://www.lowcarb.ca/tips/tips003.html)

HTH! ;)

[joesfolks]

Hey, Big Mama, You are not alone. I am getting nearer the border too. But man it is taking a long time! Just one pound at a time lately. Isn't it frustrating?!!! But I know that we both can do this. I am going to cross that border and live in twoderville. And I am never going to come back over the border again. Wishing you all the best.

[Analog6]

Big Mama, I know where you are coming from. Here in Oz we weigh in kilograms. Well, in May I was down to 101.5 (from 131+), then just stalled and got back up to 106.9 3 weeks ago, but I've been really strict and flogged my poor bod round the neighbourhood every mornign and managed to lose 4 kgs since then. But it is really hard when you've been doing it for a while. Hang in there, it WILL happen.