The Torturous Faint -- Please Answer Reasonably

[Radium]

Hi:

Some agonizing medical conditon plagued my adolescence. I
don't know what it was.

As a teenager I often experienced what I call the "The
Torturous Faint". I am NOT kidding!

Here are the following symptoms of a torturous faint:

1. Extreme nausea and excruciating abdominal pain;
possibly vomiting
2. Incapacitating aches of muscles around the body
3. A feeling that the environmental light is blindingly
bright; altered colored perception [for example yellow
objects may look green]
4. Shortness of breath
5. A feeling of fullness in the ears
6. Loud, painful palpitations
7. Profuse sweating
8. Collapse
9. Strong, rapid pulse

VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: The torturous faint does NOT involve any
loss or decrease in consciousness. No dizziness, no impairment
in balance. No bradycardia. Because consciousness, memory and
perception of pain is intact, I call it "The Torturous Faint".
The only "fainting" that occurs is the collapse caused by the
extreme pain. The reason I would collapse is because I needed
to. At times, just standing was TOO much of an exertion for
me. My whole body would be in SOOOO much pain that I needed to
lay down in order to releive the pain. I would remain fully
aware of self and surroundings. Thats right, no luxury of
unconsciousness. No escape. I had too relax completely in
order to releive the pain. My adolscent medical condition is
not a defined as a true "faint" because if it was, then I'd
feel dizzy and then enter a happy state of sub/unconsciousness
and probably not remember the faint.

Here are some -- but clearly not all -- of what used to the
triggers to my "Torturous Faint":
10. Excessive exertion
11. Emotional stress
12. Eating fatty foods

Thankfully, I rarely experience the "torturous faint"
these days.

Does anyone have a clue as to what ailed my teen years?

Thanks,

Radium

[Tom]

Hi, as an initial guess i'd probably say that'd be an
'atypical/abdominal migraine with aura' - the odds for this to
be correct are somewhat higher if you are female, and
cardiovascular (e.g. orthostasis, juvenile tachykardia), as
well as hormonal (e.g. inflammation of the thyroid gland)
causes are unlikely. For a description of similar symptoms see
e.g. http://www.oliversacks.com/migraine.htm

Best to you, Tom

Radium wrote:
> Hi:
>
> Some agonizing medical conditon plagued my adolescence. I
> don't know what it was.
>
> As a teenager I often experienced what I call the "The
> Torturous Faint". I am NOT kidding!
>
> Here are the following symptoms of a torturous faint:
>
> 1. Extreme nausea and excruciating abdominal pain; possibly
> vomiting
> 2. Incapacitating aches of muscles around the body
> 3. A feeling that the environmental light is blindingly
> bright; altered colored perception [for example yellow
> objects may look green]
> 4. Shortness of breath
> 5. A feeling of fullness in the ears
> 6. Loud, painful palpitations
> 7. Profuse sweating
> 8. Collapse
> 9. Strong, rapid pulse
>
> VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: The torturous faint does NOT involve
> any loss or decrease in consciousness. No dizziness, no
> impairment in balance. No bradycardia. Because
> consciousness, memory and perception of pain is intact, I
> call it "The Torturous Faint". The only "fainting" that
> occurs is the collapse caused by the extreme pain. The
> reason I would collapse is because I needed to. At times,
> just standing was TOO much of an exertion for me. My whole
> body would be in SOOOO much pain that I needed to lay down
> in order to releive the pain. I would remain fully aware of
> self and surroundings. Thats right, no luxury of
> unconsciousness. No escape. I had too relax completely in
> order to releive the pain. My adolscent medical condition is
> not a defined as a true "faint" because if it was, then I'd
> feel dizzy and then enter a happy state of
> sub/unconsciousness and probably not remember the faint.
>
> Here are some -- but clearly not all -- of what used to the
> triggers to my "Torturous Faint":
> 1. Excessive exertion
> 2. Emotional stress
> 3. Eating fatty foods
>
> Thankfully, I rarely experience the "torturous faint"
> these days.
>
> Does anyone have a clue as to what ailed my teen years?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Radium

[Radium]

tom wrote:
> Hi, as an initial guess i'd probably say that'd be an
> 'atypical/abdominal migraine with aura' - the odds for this
> to be correct are somewhat higher if you are female, and
> cardiovascular (e.g. orthostasis, juvenile tachykardia), as
> well as hormonal (e.g. inflammation of the thyroid gland)
> causes are unlikely. For a description of similar symptoms
> see e.g. http://www.oliversacks.com/migraine.htm
>
> Best to you, Tom
>
> Radium wrote:
> > Hi:
> >
> > Some agonizing medical conditon plagued my adolescence. I
> > don't know what it was.
> >
> > As a teenager I often experienced what I call the "The
> > Torturous Faint". I am NOT kidding!
> >
> > Here are the following symptoms of a torturous faint:
> >
> > 1. Extreme nausea and excruciating abdominal pain;
> > possibly vomiting
> > 2. Incapacitating aches of muscles around the body
> > 3. A feeling that the environmental light is blindingly
> > bright; altered colored perception [for example yellow
> > objects may look green]
> > 4. Shortness of breath
> > 5. A feeling of fullness in the ears
> > 6. Loud, painful palpitations
> > 7. Profuse sweating
> > 8. Collapse
> > 9. Strong, rapid pulse
> >
> > VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: The torturous faint does NOT involve
> > any loss or decrease in consciousness. No dizziness, no
> > impairment in balance. No bradycardia. Because
> > consciousness, memory and perception of pain is intact, I
> > call it "The Torturous Faint". The only "fainting" that
> > occurs is the collapse caused by the extreme pain. The
> > reason I would collapse is because I needed to. At times,
> > just standing was TOO much of an exertion for me. My whole
> > body would be in SOOOO much pain that I needed to lay down
> > in order to releive the pain. I would remain fully aware
> > of self and surroundings. Thats right, no luxury of
> > unconsciousness. No escape. I had too relax completely in
> > order to releive the pain. My adolscent medical condition
> > is not a defined as a true "faint" because if it was, then
> > I'd feel dizzy and then enter a happy state of
> > sub/unconsciousness and probably not remember the faint.
> >
> > Here are some -- but clearly not all -- of what used to
> > the triggers to my "Torturous Faint":
> > 1. Excessive exertion
> > 2. Emotional stress
> > 3. Eating fatty foods
> >
> > Thankfully, I rarely experience the "torturous faint"
> > these days.
> >
> > Does anyone have a clue as to what ailed my teen years?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Radium

No offense but the symptoms described on the link you provided
are not even remotely similar to mine.

[Jason John]

In article
<1159386470.508422.101820@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Radium" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:

Hi:

Some agonizing medical conditon plagued my adolescence. I
don't know what it was.

As a teenager I often experienced what I call the "The
Torturous Faint". I am NOT kidding!

Here are the following symptoms of a torturous faint:

1. Extreme nausea and excruciating abdominal pain;
possibly vomiting
2. Incapacitating aches of muscles around the body
3. A feeling that the environmental light is blindingly
bright; altered colored perception [for example yellow
objects may look green]
4. Shortness of breath
5. A feeling of fullness in the ears
6. Loud, painful palpitations
7. Profuse sweating
8. Collapse
9. Strong, rapid pulse

VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: The torturous faint does NOT involve any
loss or decrease in consciousness. No dizziness, no
impairment in balance. No bradycardia. Because consciousness,
memory and perception of pain is intact, I call it "The
Torturous Faint". The only "fainting" that occurs is the
collapse caused by the extreme pain. The reason I would
collapse is because I needed to. At times, just standing was
TOO much of an exertion for me. My whole body would be in
SOOOO much pain that I needed to lay down in order to releive
the pain. I would remain fully aware of self and
surroundings. Thats right, no luxury of unconsciousness. No
escape. I had too relax completely in order to releive the
pain. My adolscent medical condition is not a defined as a
true "faint" because if it was, then I'd feel dizzy and then
enter a happy state of sub/unconsciousness and probably not
remember the faint.

Here are some -- but clearly not all -- of what used to the
triggers to my "Torturous Faint":
10. Excessive exertion
11. Emotional stress
12. Eating fatty foods

Thankfully, I rarely experience the "torturous faint"
these days.

Does anyone have a clue as to what ailed my teen years?

Thanks,

Radium

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Radium, The best thing for you to do would be to see a doctor
and ask him the reason for the torturous faint. After your
doctor does lots of tests, the doctor might be able to answer
your question. Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Radium]

Jason Johnson wrote:
> In article
> <1159386470.508422.101820@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> "Radium" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> Some agonizing medical conditon plagued my adolescence. I
> don't know what it was.
>
> As a teenager I often experienced what I call the "The
> Torturous Faint". I am NOT kidding!
>
> Here are the following symptoms of a torturous faint:
>
> 1. Extreme nausea and excruciating abdominal pain; possibly
> vomiting
> 2. Incapacitating aches of muscles around the body
> 3. A feeling that the environmental light is blindingly
> bright; altered colored perception [for example yellow
> objects may look green]
> 4. Shortness of breath
> 5. A feeling of fullness in the ears
> 6. Loud, painful palpitations
> 7. Profuse sweating
> 8. Collapse
> 9. Strong, rapid pulse
>
> VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: The torturous faint does NOT involve
> any loss or decrease in consciousness. No dizziness, no
> impairment in balance. No bradycardia. Because
> consciousness, memory and perception of pain is intact, I
> call it "The Torturous Faint". The only "fainting" that
> occurs is the collapse caused by the extreme pain. The
> reason I would collapse is because I needed to. At times,
> just standing was TOO much of an exertion for me. My whole
> body would be in SOOOO much pain that I needed to lay down
> in order to releive the pain. I would remain fully aware of
> self and surroundings. Thats right, no luxury of
> unconsciousness. No escape. I had too relax completely in
> order to releive the pain. My adolscent medical condition
> is not a defined as a true "faint" because if it was, then
> I'd feel dizzy and then enter a happy state of
> sub/unconsciousness and probably not remember the faint.
>
> Here are some -- but clearly not all -- of what used to the
> triggers to my "Torturous Faint":
> 1. Excessive exertion
> 2. Emotional stress
> 3. Eating fatty foods
>
> Thankfully, I rarely experience the "torturous faint"
> these days.
>
> Does anyone have a clue as to what ailed my teen years?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Radium
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Radium, The best thing for you to do would be to see a
> doctor and ask him the reason for the torturous faint. After
> your doctor does lots of tests, the doctor might be able to
> answer your question. Jason
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I asked my doctor when I was a teen and I asked him
recently as well. I have also asked many other doctors. My
doctor doesn't know what it is. Some doctors says its
vasovagal syncope.

>From my own research, I know it is definitely not
>vasovagal syncope
because the symptoms [such as the heart rate] don't match that
of a vasovagal faint. Other docs call it orthostatic syncope
which again doesn't exactly match up with my symptoms. An
orthostatic syncope is a faint that occurs when standing after
laying down. Yes, I did experience symptoms on sudden standing
but not the way most orthostatic patients do.

Also, from my own research, orthostatic hypotension tends to
affect a patient for a lifetime unless he/she is medically
treated for it. I no longer experience my torturous faint --
well, at least not nearly as much as I did during adolesence.

[Jason John]

In article
<1160281498.581864.324160@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
"Radium" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
> In article
> <1159386470.508422.101820@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> "Radium" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> Some agonizing medical conditon plagued my adolescence. I
> don't know what it was.
>
> As a teenager I often experienced what I call the "The
> Torturous Faint". I am NOT kidding!
>
> Here are the following symptoms of a torturous faint:
>
> 1. Extreme nausea and excruciating abdominal pain;
> possibly vomiting
> 2. Incapacitating aches of muscles around the body
> 3. A feeling that the environmental light is blindingly
> bright; altered colored perception [for example yellow
> objects may look green]
> 4. Shortness of breath
> 5. A feeling of fullness in the ears
> 6. Loud, painful palpitations
> 7. Profuse sweating
> 8. Collapse
> 9. Strong, rapid pulse
>
> VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: The torturous faint does NOT involve
> any loss or decrease in consciousness. No dizziness, no
> impairment in balance. No bradycardia. Because
> consciousness, memory and perception of pain is intact, I
> call it "The Torturous Faint". The only "fainting" that
> occurs is the collapse caused by the extreme pain. The
> reason I would collapse is because I needed to. At times,
> just standing was TOO much of an exertion for me. My whole
> body would be in SOOOO much pain that I needed to lay down
> in order to releive the pain. I would remain fully aware
> of self and surroundings. Thats right, no luxury of
> unconsciousness. No escape. I had too relax completely in
> order to releive the pain. My adolscent medical condition
> is not a defined as a true "faint" because if it was, then
> I'd feel dizzy and then enter a happy state of
> sub/unconsciousness and probably not remember the faint.
>
> Here are some -- but clearly not all -- of what used to
> the triggers to my "Torturous Faint":
> 1. Excessive exertion
> 2. Emotional stress
> 3. Eating fatty foods
>
> Thankfully, I rarely experience the "torturous faint"
> these days.
>
> Does anyone have a clue as to what ailed my teen years?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Radium
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Radium, The best thing for you to do would be to see a
> doctor and ask him the reason for the torturous faint.
> After your doctor does lots of tests, the doctor might be
> able to answer your question. Jason
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I asked my doctor when I was a teen and I asked him
recently as well. I have also asked many other doctors. My
doctor doesn't know what it is. Some doctors says its
vasovagal syncope.

>From my own research, I know it is definitely not
>vasovagal syncope
because the symptoms [such as the heart rate] don't match
that of a vasovagal faint. Other docs call it orthostatic
syncope which again doesn't exactly match up with my
symptoms. An orthostatic syncope is a faint that occurs when
standing after laying down. Yes, I did experience symptoms on
sudden standing but not the way most orthostatic patients do.

Also, from my own research, orthostatic hypotension tends to
affect a patient for a lifetime unless he/she is medically
treated for it. I no longer experience my torturous faint --
well, at least not nearly as much as I did during adolesence.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Radium, If doctors that have examined you can not figure out
the cause of the tortorous faint, don't expect anyone in this
newsgroup to figure it out. You may get guesses. For example,
you may have been holding your breath until you passed out
without even realizing that you were holding your breath. I
know about a one year old bady that pretends to be choking to
death. When someone runs to pick her up--she starts laughing.
The parents eventully figured out that she was pretending to
choke in order to get attention. When they stopped responding,
she stopped pretending to choke. Perhaps you pretending to
faint to get attention (when you were a child). The habit may
have continued even when you became a teenager and a adult
withouit you even be aware of the fact that you were not
really fainting. Of course, I am guessing. I do know that lots
of people do strange things in order to get attention. I saw a
young lady with green hair last week. She was trying to get
attention and probably did not even realize that she was
trying to seek attention when she died her hair green. Make
sure you are not holding your breath. Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Radium]

Jason Johnson wrote:
> In article
> <1160281498.581864.324160@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
> "Radium" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
>
> Jason Johnson wrote:
> > In article
> > <1159386470.508422.101820@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Radium" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > Some agonizing medical conditon plagued my adolescence.
> > I don't know what it was.
> >
> > As a teenager I often experienced what I call the "The
> > Torturous Faint". I am NOT kidding!
> >
> > Here are the following symptoms of a torturous faint:
> >
> > 1. Extreme nausea and excruciating abdominal pain;
> > possibly vomiting
> > 2. Incapacitating aches of muscles around the body
> > 3. A feeling that the environmental light is blindingly
> > bright; altered colored perception [for example
> > yellow objects may look green]
> > 4. Shortness of breath
> > 5. A feeling of fullness in the ears
> > 6. Loud, painful palpitations
> > 7. Profuse sweating
> > 8. Collapse
> > 9. Strong, rapid pulse
> >
> > VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: The torturous faint does NOT
> > involve any loss or decrease in consciousness. No
> > dizziness, no impairment in balance. No bradycardia.
> > Because consciousness, memory and perception of pain is
> > intact, I call it "The Torturous Faint". The only
> > "fainting" that occurs is the collapse caused by the
> > extreme pain. The reason I would collapse is because I
> > needed to. At times, just standing was TOO much of an
> > exertion for me. My whole body would be in SOOOO much
> > pain that I needed to lay down in order to releive the
> > pain. I would remain fully aware of self and
> > surroundings. Thats right, no luxury of unconsciousness.
> > No escape. I had too relax completely in order to
> > releive the pain. My adolscent medical condition is not
> > a defined as a true "faint" because if it was, then I'd
> > feel dizzy and then enter a happy state of
> > sub/unconsciousness and probably not remember the faint.
> >
> > Here are some -- but clearly not all -- of what used to
> > the triggers to my "Torturous Faint":
> > 1. Excessive exertion
> > 2. Emotional stress
> > 3. Eating fatty foods
> >
> > Thankfully, I rarely experience the "torturous faint"
> > these days.
> >
> > Does anyone have a clue as to what ailed my teen years?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Radium
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Radium, The best thing for you to do would be to see a
> > doctor and ask him the reason for the torturous faint.
> > After your doctor does lots of tests, the doctor might be
> > able to answer your question. Jason
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> I asked my doctor when I was a teen and I asked him
> recently as well. I have also asked many other doctors. My
> doctor doesn't know what it is. Some doctors says its
> vasovagal syncope.
>
> >From my own research, I know it is definitely not
> >vasovagal syncope
> because the symptoms [such as the heart rate] don't match
> that of a vasovagal faint. Other docs call it orthostatic
> syncope which again doesn't exactly match up with my
> symptoms. An orthostatic syncope is a faint that occurs
> when standing after laying down. Yes, I did experience
> symptoms on sudden standing but not the way most
> orthostatic patients do.
>
> Also, from my own research, orthostatic hypotension tends
> to affect a patient for a lifetime unless he/she is
> medically treated for it. I no longer experience my
> torturous faint -- well, at least not nearly as much as I
> did during adolesence.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Radium, If doctors that have examined you can not figure
> out the cause of the tortorous faint, don't expect anyone
> in this newsgroup to figure it out. You may get guesses.
> For example, you may have been holding your breath until
> you passed out without even realizing that you were holding
> your breath. I know about a one year old bady that pretends
> to be choking to death. When someone runs to pick her
> up--she starts laughing. The parents eventully figured out
> that she was pretending to choke in order to get attention.
> When they stopped responding, she stopped pretending to
> choke. Perhaps you pretending to faint to get attention
> (when you were a child). The habit may have continued even
> when you became a teenager and a adult withouit you even be
> aware of the fact that you were not really fainting. Of
> course, I am guessing. I do know that lots of people do
> strange things in order to get attention. I saw a young
> lady with green hair last week. She was trying to get
> attention and probably did not even realize that she was
> trying to seek attention when she died her hair green. Make
> sure you are not holding your breath. Jason
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Nope. I didn't hold my breath. Not for attention. Not for
anything. Just ask my doc and parents ;-)

[Radium]

Jason Johnson wrote:
> In article
> <1160344582.895064.159040@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Radium" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
>
> Jason Johnson wrote:
> > In article
> > <1160281498.581864.324160@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Radium" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
> >
> > Jason Johnson wrote:
> > > In article <1159386470.508422.101820@b28g2000cwb.goog-
> > > legroups.com>, "Radium" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi:
> > >
> > > Some agonizing medical conditon plagued my
> > > adolescence. I don't know what it was.
> > >
> > > As a teenager I often experienced what I call the
> > > "The Torturous Faint". I am NOT kidding!
> > >
> > > Here are the following symptoms of a torturous faint:
> > >
> > > 1. Extreme nausea and excruciating abdominal pain;
> > > possibly vomiting
> > > 2. Incapacitating aches of muscles around the body
> > > 3. A feeling that the environmental light is
> > > blindingly bright; altered colored perception [for
> > > example yellow objects may look green]
> > > 4. Shortness of breath
> > > 5. A feeling of fullness in the ears
> > > 6. Loud, painful palpitations
> > > 7. Profuse sweating
> > > 8. Collapse
> > > 9. Strong, rapid pulse
> > >
> > > VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: The torturous faint does NOT
> > > involve any loss or decrease in consciousness. No
> > > dizziness, no impairment in balance. No bradycardia.
> > > Because consciousness, memory and perception of pain
> > > is intact, I call it "The Torturous Faint". The only
> > > "fainting" that occurs is the collapse caused by the
> > > extreme pain. The reason I would collapse is because
> > > I needed to. At times, just standing was TOO much of
> > > an exertion for me. My whole body would be in SOOOO
> > > much pain that I needed to lay down in order to
> > > releive the pain. I would remain fully aware of self
> > > and surroundings. Thats right, no luxury of
> > > unconsciousness. No escape. I had too relax
> > > completely in order to releive the pain. My adolscent
> > > medical condition is not a defined as a true "faint"
> > > because if it was, then I'd feel dizzy and then enter
> > > a happy state of sub/unconsciousness and probably not
> > > remember the faint.
> > >
> > > Here are some -- but clearly not all -- of what used
> > > to the triggers to my "Torturous Faint":
> > > 1. Excessive exertion
> > > 2. Emotional stress
> > > 3. Eating fatty foods
> > >
> > > Thankfully, I rarely experience the "torturous faint"
> > > these days.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a clue as to what ailed my teen
> > > years?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Radium
> > >
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >
> > > Radium, The best thing for you to do would be to see a
> > > doctor and ask him the reason for the torturous faint.
> > > After your doctor does lots of tests, the doctor might
> > > be able to answer your question. Jason
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > I asked my doctor when I was a teen and I asked him
> > recently as well. I have also asked many other doctors.
> > My doctor doesn't know what it is. Some doctors says its
> > vasovagal syncope.
> >
> > >From my own research, I know it is definitely not
> > >vasovagal syncope
> > because the symptoms [such as the heart rate] don't
> > match that of a vasovagal faint. Other docs call it
> > orthostatic syncope which again doesn't exactly match up
> > with my symptoms. An orthostatic syncope is a faint that
> > occurs when standing after laying down. Yes, I did
> > experience symptoms on sudden standing but not the way
> > most orthostatic patients do.
> >
> > Also, from my own research, orthostatic hypotension
> > tends to affect a patient for a lifetime unless he/she
> > is medically treated for it. I no longer experience my
> > torturous faint -- well, at least not nearly as much as
> > I did during adolesence.
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Radium, If doctors that have examined you can not figure
> > out the cause of the tortorous faint, don't expect anyone
> > in this newsgroup to figure it out. You may get guesses.
> > For example, you may have been holding your breath until
> > you passed out without even realizing that you were
> > holding your breath. I know about a one year old bady
> > that pretends to be choking to death. When someone runs
> > to pick her up--she starts laughing. The parents
> > eventully figured out that she was pretending to choke in
> > order to get attention. When they stopped responding, she
> > stopped pretending to choke. Perhaps you pretending to
> > faint to get attention (when you were a child). The habit
> > may have continued even when you became a teenager and a
> > adult withouit you even be aware of the fact that you
> > were not really fainting. Of course, I am guessing. I do
> > know that lots of people do strange things in order to
> > get attention. I saw a young lady with green hair last
> > week. She was trying to get attention and probably did
> > not even realize that she was trying to seek attention
> > when she died her hair green. Make sure you are not
> > holding your breath. Jason
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Nope. I didn't hold my breath. Not for attention. Not for
> anything. Just ask my doc and parents ;-)
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> How would they know if you were faking a faint or actually
> really fainting? It's possible that you don't even realize
> that you are faking. Some of the people that have multiple
> personalities don't even realize they have multiple
> personalites until after 10 or more years of psychological
> counseling. Rent the movie entitled, "The Three Faces of
> Eve". If you are a great actor, you could even confuse a
> doctor. I mentioned a baby that faked choking in my last
> post. If the parents never figured out that the baby was
> faking instead of really choking, it's possible that she
> would have continued that behavior into adulthood. Perhaps
> she would call it "Torturous Choking". Someone like myself
> may try to convince her that she is faking the choking but
> she would really believe she was choking. She would say:
>
> "Nope. I didn't fake choking to get attention. Just ask my
> doc and parents." Do you see my point?
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I understand what you're saying. However this "faking a faint"
clearly does not apply to me. I'll simply have to do more
research regarding my adolescent plague. I know that my
childhood was excellent in
psychological terms. No mental illness. No emotional trauma.

[Jason John]

In article
<1160344582.895064.159040@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Radium" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
> In article
> <1160281498.581864.324160@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
> "Radium" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
>
> Jason Johnson wrote:
> > In article <1159386470.508422.101820@b28g2000cwb.google-
> > groups.com>, "Radium" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > Some agonizing medical conditon plagued my adolescence.
> > I don't know what it was.
> >
> > As a teenager I often experienced what I call the "The
> > Torturous Faint". I am NOT kidding!
> >
> > Here are the following symptoms of a torturous faint:
> >
> > 1. Extreme nausea and excruciating abdominal pain;
> > possibly vomiting
> > 2. Incapacitating aches of muscles around the body
> > 3. A feeling that the environmental light is blindingly
> > bright; altered colored perception [for example
> > yellow objects may look green]
> > 4. Shortness of breath
> > 5. A feeling of fullness in the ears
> > 6. Loud, painful palpitations
> > 7. Profuse sweating
> > 8. Collapse
> > 9. Strong, rapid pulse
> >
> > VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: The torturous faint does NOT
> > involve any loss or decrease in consciousness. No
> > dizziness, no impairment in balance. No bradycardia.
> > Because consciousness, memory and perception of pain is
> > intact, I call it "The Torturous Faint". The only
> > "fainting" that occurs is the collapse caused by the
> > extreme pain. The reason I would collapse is because I
> > needed to. At times, just standing was TOO much of an
> > exertion for me. My whole body would be in SOOOO much
> > pain that I needed to lay down in order to releive the
> > pain. I would remain fully aware of self and
> > surroundings. Thats right, no luxury of
> > unconsciousness. No escape. I had too relax completely
> > in order to releive the pain. My adolscent medical
> > condition is not a defined as a true "faint" because if
> > it was, then I'd feel dizzy and then enter a happy
> > state of sub/unconsciousness and probably not remember
> > the faint.
> >
> > Here are some -- but clearly not all -- of what used to
> > the triggers to my "Torturous Faint":
> > 1. Excessive exertion
> > 2. Emotional stress
> > 3. Eating fatty foods
> >
> > Thankfully, I rarely experience the "torturous faint"
> > these days.
> >
> > Does anyone have a clue as to what ailed my teen years?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Radium
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Radium, The best thing for you to do would be to see a
> > doctor and ask him the reason for the torturous faint.
> > After your doctor does lots of tests, the doctor might
> > be able to answer your question. Jason
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> I asked my doctor when I was a teen and I asked him
> recently as well. I have also asked many other doctors. My
> doctor doesn't know what it is. Some doctors says its
> vasovagal syncope.
>
> >From my own research, I know it is definitely not
> >vasovagal syncope
> because the symptoms [such as the heart rate] don't match
> that of a vasovagal faint. Other docs call it orthostatic
> syncope which again doesn't exactly match up with my
> symptoms. An orthostatic syncope is a faint that occurs
> when standing after laying down. Yes, I did experience
> symptoms on sudden standing but not the way most
> orthostatic patients do.
>
> Also, from my own research, orthostatic hypotension tends
> to affect a patient for a lifetime unless he/she is
> medically treated for it. I no longer experience my
> torturous faint -- well, at least not nearly as much as I
> did during adolesence.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Radium, If doctors that have examined you can not figure
> out the cause of the tortorous faint, don't expect anyone
> in this newsgroup to figure it out. You may get guesses.
> For example, you may have been holding your breath until
> you passed out without even realizing that you were holding
> your breath. I know about a one year old bady that pretends
> to be choking to death. When someone runs to pick her
> up--she starts laughing. The parents eventully figured out
> that she was pretending to choke in order to get attention.
> When they stopped responding, she stopped pretending to
> choke. Perhaps you pretending to faint to get attention
> (when you were a child). The habit may have continued even
> when you became a teenager and a adult withouit you even be
> aware of the fact that you were not really fainting. Of
> course, I am guessing. I do know that lots of people do
> strange things in order to get attention. I saw a young
> lady with green hair last week. She was trying to get
> attention and probably did not even realize that she was
> trying to seek attention when she died her hair green. Make
> sure you are not holding your breath. Jason
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Nope. I didn't hold my breath. Not for attention. Not for
anything. Just ask my doc and parents ;-)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

How would they know if you were faking a faint or actually
really fainting? It's possible that you don't even realize
that you are faking. Some of the people that have multiple
personalities don't even realize they have multiple
personalites until after 10 or more years of psychological
counseling. Rent the movie entitled, "The Three Faces of Eve".
If you are a great actor, you could even confuse a doctor. I
mentioned a baby that faked choking in my last post. If the
parents never figured out that the baby was faking instead of
really choking, it's possible that she would have continued
that behavior into adulthood. Perhaps she would call it
"Torturous Choking". Someone like myself may try to convince
her that she is faking the choking but she would really
believe she was choking. She would say:

"Nope. I didn't fake choking to get attention. Just ask my doc
and parents." Do you see my point?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~