Who is your favourite nutrition guru?

[Tony Burch]

Hi all,

I was just pondering the idea of "gurus" & I thought the
following questions may hopefully make some interesting &
entertaining discussion:)

Including people in this newsgroup & others in the field, whom
do you consider to be the present-day "gurus" in nutrition?
...I mean the people who guide others, are inspirational &
highly respected for their work & contributions in this field.

Who is your favourite guru & why?

Please take the question in a light-hearted way. Maybe this is
just a chance to honour someone you respect. Maybe some
readers will check out your "guru" and also enjoy them.

Tony Burch

[Mikev]

"Tony Burch" <tony@burched.com.au> wrote in message
news:44d9915e$0$5111$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Hi all,
>
> I was just pondering the idea of "gurus" & I thought the
> following questions may hopefully make some interesting &
> entertaining discussion:)
>
> Including people in this newsgroup & others in the field,
> whom do you consider to be the present-day "gurus" in
> nutrition? ...I mean the people who guide others, are
> inspirational & highly respected for their work &
> contributions in this field.
>
> Who is your favourite guru & why?
>
> Please take the question in a light-hearted way. Maybe this
> is just a chance to honour someone you respect. Maybe some
> readers will check out your "guru" and also enjoy them.
>
> Tony Burch
>
>

TC wins hands down.

In my view, it is the location in which he protects his head
which gives him a unique and intimate knowledge of the
ultimate fate of calories. From start to finish he is
entertaining, and maintains that inimitable Gallic sense of
humor. Thanks, TC. :-)

MikeV

[Tc]

MikeV wrote:
> "Tony Burch" <tony@burched.com.au> wrote in message
> news:44d9915e$0$5111$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was just pondering the idea of "gurus" & I thought the
> > following questions may hopefully make some interesting &
> > entertaining discussion:)
> >
> > Including people in this newsgroup & others in the field,
> > whom do you consider to be the present-day "gurus" in
> > nutrition? ...I mean the people who guide others, are
> > inspirational & highly respected for their work &
> > contributions in this field.
> >
> > Who is your favourite guru & why?
> >
> > Please take the question in a light-hearted way. Maybe
> > this is just a chance to honour someone you respect.
> > Maybe some readers will check out your "guru" and also
> > enjoy them.
> >
> > Tony Burch
> >
> >
>
> TC wins hands down.
>
>
>
> In my view, it is the location in which he protects his head
> which gives him a unique and intimate knowledge of the
> ultimate fate of calories. From start to finish he is
> entertaining, and maintains that inimitable Gallic sense of
> humor. Thanks, TC. :-)
>
> MikeV

You beat me to it. He is, by far, my favorite nutrition "guru"
too. (chuckle, chuckle)

TC

[Tc]

MikeV wrote:
> "TC" <tunderbar@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:11551350-
> 84.944729.77760@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > MikeV wrote:
> >> "Tony Burch" <tony@burched.com.au> wrote in message
> >> news:44d9915e$0$5111$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > I was just pondering the idea of "gurus" & I thought
> >> > the following questions may hopefully make some
> >> > interesting & entertaining discussion:)
> >> >
> >> > Including people in this newsgroup & others in the
> >> > field, whom do you consider to be the present-day
> >> > "gurus" in nutrition? ...I mean the people who guide
> >> > others, are inspirational & highly respected for their
> >> > work & contributions in this field.
> >> >
> >> > Who is your favourite guru & why?
> >> >
> >> > Please take the question in a light-hearted way. Maybe
> >> > this is just a chance to honour someone you respect.
> >> > Maybe some readers will check out your "guru" and also
> >> > enjoy them.
> >> >
> >> > Tony Burch
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> TC wins hands down.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> In my view, it is the location in which he protects his
> >> head which gives him a unique and intimate knowledge of
> >> the ultimate fate of calories. From start to finish he is
> >> entertaining, and maintains that inimitable Gallic sense
> >> of humor. Thanks, TC. :-)
> >>
> >> MikeV
> >
> > You beat me to it. He is, by far, my favorite nutrition
> > "guru" too. (chuckle, chuckle)
> >
> > TC
> >
> Gee! Now on the other hand, how would you take it if someone
> were to insult you? :-(

I thrive on insults.

TC

[Ron Peters]

Tony Burch wrote:

> I was just pondering the idea of "gurus" & I thought the
> following questions may hopefully make some interesting &
> entertaining discussion:)

> Including people in this newsgroup & others in the field,
> whom do you consider to be the present-day "gurus" in
> nutrition? ...I mean the people who guide others, are
> inspirational & highly respected for their work &
> contributions in this field.

> Who is your favourite guru & why?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10753216/site/newsweek/ has some
suggestions including: Bruce Ames PROFESSOR, U.C., BERKELEY He
takes: Acetyl-carnitine, lipoic acid and a multivitamin Tip:
Try to eat well, but take a daily multivitamin for insurance

JoAnn Manson PROF., HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL She takes: Calcium
(1,000mg daily), vitamin D, multivitamin Tip: For best
absorption, no more than 500mg of calcium per dose

Dean Ornish BEST-SELLING AUTHOR He takes: Fish oil (three
grams daily) and a multivitamin Tip: Iron-free multivitamin
for men, postmenopausal women The most important supplement
for peopleto be taking is fish oil. Just three grams a day may
provide enormous benefits.

Marion Nestle AUTHOR, 'WHAT TO EAT' She takes: An occasional
multivitamin Tip: Eat lots of fruits, vegetables, whole grains
and fatty fish

Irwin Rosenberg NUTRITION SCIENTIST, TUFTS He takes: Vitamin
B12 (200mcg weekly), vitamin D (400 IU daily) Tip: If you
don't live in a sunny climate, vitamin D could be low.

--
Ron

[David R. T]

In article <44d9915e$0$5111$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Tony Burch <tony@burched.com.au> wrote:

>Including people in this newsgroup & others in the field,
>whom do you consider to be the present-day "gurus" in
>nutrition? Who is your favourite guru & why?

Popeye the Sailor Man. He introduced me to low-carb, high
antioxidant vegetables.

DRT

[Tc]

Ron Peterson wrote:
> Tony Burch wrote:
>
> > I was just pondering the idea of "gurus" & I thought the
> > following questions may hopefully make some interesting &
> > entertaining discussion:)
>
> > Including people in this newsgroup & others in the field,
> > whom do you consider to be the present-day "gurus" in
> > nutrition? ...I mean the people who guide others, are
> > inspirational & highly respected for their work &
> > contributions in this field.
>
> > Who is your favourite guru & why?
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10753216/site/newsweek/ has some
> suggestions including: Bruce Ames PROFESSOR, U.C., BERKELEY
> He takes: Acetyl-carnitine, lipoic acid and a multivitamin
> Tip: Try to eat well, but take a daily multivitamin for
> insurance

Bruce N. Ames, Ph.D., Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular
Biology, University of California, Berkeley. Co-founder of
Juvenon, a biotechnology company. (Pollack, Andrew. "Forget
Boxtox. Anti-Aging Pills May Be Next," New York Times,
9/21/03, B10) Holds U.S. patent number 6,455,589 "Primary
N-hydroxylamines" assigned to The Regents of the University of
California (Oakland, CA), September 24, 2002. Holds U.S.
patent number 5,869,258 "Detection system for mutagens that
identifies mutagenic changes" assigned to The Regents of the
University of California (Oakland, CA), February 9, 1999.
Holds U.S. patent number 5,916,912 "Dietary composition for
enhancing metabolism and alleviating oxidative stress"
assigned to The Regents of the University of California
(Oakland, CA), June 29, 1999. Holds U.S. patent number
5,681,737 "Detection system for mutagens that also identifies
mutagenic changes" assigned to The Regents of the University
of California (Oakland, CA), October 28, 1997. On the Board of
Directors for the Marshall Institute.
(www.marshall.org/aboutpg.html; accessed 04/30/01) Co-founder
of Juvenon, a biotechnology company. (New York Times, 9/21/03,
B10) Member of the scientific advisory board of The
Advancement of Sound Science Coalition. (Brill's Content,
10/98, p.113)

>
> JoAnn Manson PROF., HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL She takes:
> Calcium (1,000mg daily), vitamin D, multivitamin Tip: For
> best absorption, no more than 500mg of calcium per dose

JoAnne E. Manson, Harvard Medical School. Paid consultant to
Interneuron, maker of obesity drug Redux (fenfluramine) for
several months in 1995. (New York Times, 8/29/96; Lingua
Franca, June/July, 1997; p. 54)

>
> Dean Ornish BEST-SELLING AUTHOR He takes: Fish oil (three
> grams daily) and a multivitamin Tip: Iron-free multivitamin
> for men, postmenopausal women The most important supplement
> for peopleto be taking is fish oil. Just three grams a day
> may provide enormous benefits.

Dean Ornish, M.D., Clinical Professor of Medicine, University
of California, San Francisco. Founder, president and director,
Preventive Medicine Research Institute, Sausalito, CA. Member,
Blue ribbon advisory board on health and wellness, PepsiCo.
(http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_files/IROL/78/78265/pres-
entations/121304.pdf; accessed 5/31/05) Earns $7,500 per year
as paid consultant to McDonald's Corp. for giving talks to
employees and writing nutritional advice for table displays.
(Melanie Warner, "Is a Trip to McDonald's Just What the Doctor
Ordered?" New York Times, 5/2/05, P.C1) In 2005, presented
findings to the American College of Cardiology on the heart
benefits of pomegranate juice based on a study funded by POM
Wonderful, which makes pomegranate juice. (Ben Harder, "Wonder
Juice?" Washington Post, 6/21/05, p.F2) Consultant to
McDonald's, PepsiCo, and ConAgra Foods. (Beil, Laura. "Eyes on
the Fries," Dallas Morning News,
1/24/2005; Severson, Kim, Warner, Melanie. "Fat Substitute,
Once Praised, Is Pushed Out of the Kitchen," New York
Times, 2/13/05, p.1) Research supported by The Enron
Foundation, Continental Airlines, Credit Suisse First
Boston Foundation, Corporate Property Investors, Texas
Commerce Bank Foundation, and Arthur Andersen & Co.
(JAMA. 1998;280:2001-7.) Received consulting fees and
honoraria from ConAgra Foods. (JAMA. 1998;279:1345-6.)
Received lecture honoraria and wrote general-interest
books on diet and lifestyle, for which he received
royalties. (JAMA. 1998;279:1345-6.)

>
> Marion Nestle AUTHOR, 'WHAT TO EAT' She takes: An occasional
> multivitamin Tip: Eat lots of fruits, vegetables, whole
> grains and fatty fish
>
> Irwin Rosenberg NUTRITION SCIENTIST, TUFTS He takes: Vitamin
> B12 (200mcg weekly), vitamin D (400 IU daily) Tip: If you
> don't live in a sunny climate, vitamin D could be low.

Irwin Rosenberg, M.D., Senior Scientist and Director,
Nutrition and Neurocognition Laboratory Jean Mayer USDA
HNRCA, Tufts University. Serves on Advisory Board of
Coca-Cola's Beverage Institute for Health and Wellness. (
http://www.thebeverageinstitute.org/advisory_council.shtml
; accessed
1/24/1)

>
> --
> Ron

Four out of five "doctors" are owned by industry.

TC

[Tc]

TC wrote:
> Ron Peterson wrote:
> > Tony Burch wrote:
> >
> > > I was just pondering the idea of "gurus" & I thought the
> > > following questions may hopefully make some interesting
> > > & entertaining discussion:)
> >
> > > Including people in this newsgroup & others in the
> > > field, whom do you consider to be the present-day
> > > "gurus" in nutrition? ...I mean the people who guide
> > > others, are inspirational & highly respected for their
> > > work & contributions in this field.
> >
> > > Who is your favourite guru & why?
> >
> > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10753216/site/newsweek/ has
> > some suggestions including: Bruce Ames PROFESSOR, U.C.,
> > BERKELEY He takes: Acetyl-carnitine, lipoic acid and a
> > multivitamin Tip: Try to eat well, but take a daily
> > multivitamin for insurance
>
> Bruce N. Ames, Ph.D., Professor of Biochemistry and
> Molecular Biology, University of California, Berkeley.
> Co-founder of Juvenon, a biotechnology company. (Pollack,
> Andrew. "Forget Boxtox. Anti-Aging Pills May Be Next," New
> York Times, 9/21/03, B10) Holds U.S. patent number 6,455,589
> "Primary N-hydroxylamines" assigned to The Regents of the
> University of California (Oakland, CA), September 24, 2002.
> Holds U.S. patent number 5,869,258 "Detection system for
> mutagens that identifies mutagenic changes" assigned to The
> Regents of the University of California (Oakland, CA),
> February 9, 1999. Holds U.S. patent number 5,916,912
> "Dietary composition for enhancing metabolism and
> alleviating oxidative stress" assigned to The Regents of the
> University of California (Oakland, CA), June 29, 1999. Holds
> U.S. patent number 5,681,737 "Detection system for mutagens
> that also identifies mutagenic changes" assigned to The
> Regents of the University of California (Oakland, CA),
> October 28, 1997. On the Board of Directors for the Marshall
> Institute. (www.marshall.org/aboutpg.html; accessed
> 04/30/01) Co-founder of Juvenon, a biotechnology company.
> (New York Times, 9/21/03, B10) Member of the scientific
> advisory board of The Advancement of Sound Science
> Coalition. (Brill's Content, 10/98, p.113)

http://cspinet.org/integrity/nonprofits/the_advancement_of_so-
und_science_coalition_defunct_.html

THE ADVANCEMENT OF SOUND SCIENCE COALITION [defunct]

O'Dywer's PR Services reports that TASSC is "leading the
charge against what it views as the unholy alliance between
environmentalists and the media" (Feb. 1996).

The office of Stephen Milloy (executive director of TASSC) is
in the headquarters of APCO Associates, a Washington, D.C., PR
firm that specializes in creating coalitions like TASSC.
(Village Voice, April 29, 1997, p. 39)

According to the Environmental Working Group (EWG) this "sound
science" coalition is supported by hundreds of corporations,
including 3M, Amoco, Chevron, Dow Chemical, Exxon, General
Motors, Occidental Petroleum, Philip Morris, Procter & Gamble
and W.R. Grace. Its objective is to act as a speakers bureau
to deliver the corporate message that environmental public
policy is not currently based on "sound science," and to
counter excessive regulations that are based on what it
considers "junk" science.

TASSC, according to EWG, was created in 1993 to promote "sound
science" in policy decision making. TASSC's extensive advisory
board contains well known "science skeptics" S. Fred Singer,
Bruce Ames, Dr. Patrick Michaels, Michael Sanera, and Hugh
Ellsaesser.

Steven Milloy, executive director of TASSC, is a self
styled "junk science" critic who previously launched the
Junk Science Page through the Environmental Policy
Analysis Network (EPAN), a group he started in 1996.
Milloy is also a lobbyist for the EOP Group, a DC-based
lobbying firm that represents the American Crop Protection
Association, the Chlorine Chemistry Council, Edison
Electric Institute, among others. Under Milloy's personal
listing of groups he represents through the EOP Group in
1996 were Fort Howard Corp., the International Food
Additives Association, and Monsanto. According to the most
recent edition of Washington Representatives, Milloy's
client list has grown to include the National Mining
Association, among others. (http://www.ewg.org/pub/home/c-
lear/view/CV_Vol4_No16.html; accessed
6/17/03)

"Support comes from companies like Procter & Gamble, Exxon,
Dow Chemical, and Philip Morris."
[http://www.villagevoice.com/ink/goetz.html] (4/23/97)

>
> >
> > JoAnn Manson PROF., HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL She takes:
> > Calcium (1,000mg daily), vitamin D, multivitamin Tip: For
> > best absorption, no more than 500mg of calcium per dose
>
> JoAnne E. Manson, Harvard Medical School. Paid consultant to
> Interneuron, maker of obesity drug Redux (fenfluramine) for
> several months in 1995. (New York Times, 8/29/96; Lingua
> Franca, June/July, 1997; p. 54)
>
> >
> > Dean Ornish BEST-SELLING AUTHOR He takes: Fish oil (three
> > grams daily) and a multivitamin Tip: Iron-free
> > multivitamin for men, postmenopausal women The most
> > important supplement for peopleto be taking is fish oil.
> > Just three grams a day may provide enormous benefits.
>
> Dean Ornish, M.D., Clinical Professor of Medicine,
> University of California, San Francisco. Founder, president
> and director, Preventive Medicine Research Institute,
> Sausalito, CA. Member, Blue ribbon advisory board on health
> and wellness, PepsiCo. (http://media.corporate-ir.net/media-
> _files/IROL/78/78265/presentations/121304.pdf; accessed
> 5/31/05) Earns $7,500 per year as paid consultant to
> McDonald's Corp. for giving talks to employees and writing
> nutritional advice for table displays. (Melanie Warner, "Is
> a Trip to McDonald's Just What the Doctor Ordered?" New York
> Times, 5/2/05, P.C1) In 2005, presented findings to the
> American College of Cardiology on the heart benefits of
> pomegranate juice based on a study funded by POM Wonderful,
> which makes pomegranate juice. (Ben Harder, "Wonder Juice?"
> Washington Post, 6/21/05, p.F2) Consultant to McDonald's,
> PepsiCo, and ConAgra Foods. (Beil, Laura. "Eyes on the
> Fries," Dallas Morning News,
> 1/24/2005; Severson, Kim, Warner, Melanie. "Fat Substitute,
> Once Praised, Is Pushed Out of the Kitchen," New York
> Times, 2/13/05, p.1) Research supported by The Enron
> Foundation, Continental Airlines, Credit Suisse First
> Boston Foundation, Corporate Property Investors, Texas
> Commerce Bank Foundation, and Arthur Andersen & Co.
> (JAMA. 1998;280:2001-7.) Received consulting fees and
> honoraria from ConAgra Foods. (JAMA. 1998;279:1345-6.)
> Received lecture honoraria and wrote general-interest
> books on diet and lifestyle, for which he received
> royalties. (JAMA. 1998;279:1345-6.)
>
> >
> > Marion Nestle AUTHOR, 'WHAT TO EAT' She takes: An
> > occasional multivitamin Tip: Eat lots of fruits,
> > vegetables, whole grains and fatty fish
> >
> > Irwin Rosenberg NUTRITION SCIENTIST, TUFTS He takes:
> > Vitamin B12 (200mcg weekly), vitamin D (400 IU daily)
> > Tip: If you don't live in a sunny climate, vitamin D
> > could be low.
>
> Irwin Rosenberg, M.D., Senior Scientist and Director,
> Nutrition and Neurocognition Laboratory Jean Mayer USDA
> HNRCA, Tufts University. Serves on Advisory Board of
> Coca-Cola's Beverage Institute for Health and Wellness. (
> http://www.thebeverageinstitute.org/advisory_council.shtml ;
> accessed
> 11/09/04)
>
> >
> > --
> > Ron
>
> Four out of five "doctors" are owned by industry.
>
> TC

[Mikev]

"TC" <tunderbar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155135084.944729.77760@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> MikeV wrote:
>> "Tony Burch" <tony@burched.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:44d9915e$0$5111$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I was just pondering the idea of "gurus" & I thought the
>> > following questions may hopefully make some interesting &
>> > entertaining discussion:)
>> >
>> > Including people in this newsgroup & others in the field,
>> > whom do you consider to be the present-day "gurus" in
>> > nutrition? ...I mean the people who guide others, are
>> > inspirational & highly respected for their work &
>> > contributions in this field.
>> >
>> > Who is your favourite guru & why?
>> >
>> > Please take the question in a light-hearted way. Maybe
>> > this is just a chance to honour someone you respect.
>> > Maybe some readers will check out your "guru" and also
>> > enjoy them.
>> >
>> > Tony Burch
>> >
>> >
>>
>> TC wins hands down.
>>
>>
>>
>> In my view, it is the location in which he protects his
>> head which gives him a unique and intimate knowledge of the
>> ultimate fate of calories. From start to finish he is
>> entertaining, and maintains that inimitable Gallic sense of
>> humor. Thanks, TC. :-)
>>
>> MikeV
>
> You beat me to it. He is, by far, my favorite nutrition
> "guru" too. (chuckle, chuckle)
>
> TC
>
Gee! Now on the other hand, how would you take it if someone
were to insult you? :-(

[Cardarch]

runnsswim (Larry Weisenthal) in the swimming newsgroup is the
only one I trust.

- Hide quoted text -

Tony Burch wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I was just pondering the idea of "gurus" & I thought the
> following questions may hopefully make some interesting &
> entertaining discussion:)
>
> Including people in this newsgroup & others in the field,
> whom do you consider to be the present-day "gurus" in
> nutrition? ...I mean the people who guide others, are
> inspirational & highly respected for their work &
> contributions in this field.
>
> Who is your favourite guru & why?
>
> Please take the question in a light-hearted way. Maybe this
> is just a chance to honour someone you respect. Maybe some
> readers will check out your "guru" and also enjoy them.
>
> Tony Burch

[Mr. Natura]

Tony Burch wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I was just pondering the idea of "gurus" & I thought the
> following questions may hopefully make some interesting &
> entertaining discussion:)
>
> Including people in this newsgroup & others in the field,
> whom do you consider to be the present-day "gurus" in
> nutrition? ...I mean the people who guide others, are
> inspirational & highly respected for their work &
> contributions in this field.
>
> Who is your favourite guru & why?

Me, myself, I and moi. :)
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/

I am recovering from yet another major computer crash. :(

[Mr. Natura]

Tony Burch wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I was just pondering the idea of "gurus" & I thought the
> following questions may hopefully make some interesting &
> entertaining discussion:)
>
> Including people in this newsgroup & others in the field,
> whom do you consider to be the present-day "gurus" in
> nutrition? ...I mean the people who guide others, are
> inspirational & highly respected for their work &
> contributions in this field.
>
> Who is your favourite guru & why?

Me, myself, I and moi. :)
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/

I am recovering from yet another major computer crash. :(

[Tc]

Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> Tony Burch wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was just pondering the idea of "gurus" & I thought the
> > following questions may hopefully make some interesting &
> > entertaining discussion:)
> >
> > Including people in this newsgroup & others in the field,
> > whom do you consider to be the present-day "gurus" in
> > nutrition? ...I mean the people who guide others, are
> > inspirational & highly respected for their work &
> > contributions in this field.
> >
> > Who is your favourite guru & why?
>
> Me, myself, I and moi. :)
> http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/
>
> I am recovering from yet another major computer crash. :(

Wtf does:

"Eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the mind -
body connection."

mean?????????????????????

TC

[Mr. Natura]

TC wrote:
> Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > Tony Burch wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I was just pondering the idea of "gurus" & I thought the
> > > following questions may hopefully make some interesting
> > > & entertaining discussion:)
> > >
> > > Including people in this newsgroup & others in the
> > > field, whom do you consider to be the present-day
> > > "gurus" in nutrition? ...I mean the people who guide
> > > others, are inspirational & highly respected for their
> > > work & contributions in this field.
> > >
> > > Who is your favourite guru & why?
> >
> > Me, myself, I and moi. :)
> > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/
> >
> > I am recovering from yet another major computer crash. :(
>
> Wtf does:
>
> "Eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the mind -
> body connection."
>
> mean?????????????????????

TC, You need to use reading glasses. You can buy them at
Wal-Mart for a couple of bucks. Do you need a loan?

Just thought that you might want to try reading what I
actually wrote for a change.

[Tc]

Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> TC wrote:
> > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > > Tony Burch wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I was just pondering the idea of "gurus" & I thought
> > > > the following questions may hopefully make some
> > > > interesting & entertaining discussion:)
> > > >
> > > > Including people in this newsgroup & others in the
> > > > field, whom do you consider to be the present-day
> > > > "gurus" in nutrition? ...I mean the people who guide
> > > > others, are inspirational & highly respected for their
> > > > work & contributions in this field.
> > > >
> > > > Who is your favourite guru & why?
> > >
> > > Me, myself, I and moi. :)
> > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/
> > >
> > > I am recovering from yet another major computer
> > > crash. :(
> >
> > Wtf does:
> >
> > "Eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the mind
> > - body connection."
> >
> > mean?????????????????????
>
> TC, You need to use reading glasses. You can buy them at
> Wal-Mart for a couple of bucks. Do you need a loan?
>
> Just thought that you might want to try reading what I
> actually wrote for a change.

You don't even knoiw wtf it means. Arsehole.

TC

[Mr. Natura]

TC wrote:
> Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > TC wrote:
> > > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > > > Tony Burch wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I was just pondering the idea of "gurus" & I thought
> > > > > the following questions may hopefully make some
> > > > > interesting & entertaining discussion:)
> > > > >
> > > > > Including people in this newsgroup & others in the
> > > > > field, whom do you consider to be the present-day
> > > > > "gurus" in nutrition? ...I mean the people who guide
> > > > > others, are inspirational & highly respected for
> > > > > their work & contributions in this field.
> > > > >
> > > > > Who is your favourite guru & why?
> > > >
> > > > Me, myself, I and moi. :)
> > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/
> > > >
> > > > I am recovering from yet another major computer crash.
> > > > :(
> > >
> > > Wtf does:
> > >
> > > "Eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the
> > > mind - body connection."
> > >
> > > mean?????????????????????
> >
> > TC, You need to use reading glasses. You can buy them at
> > Wal-Mart for a couple of bucks. Do you need a loan?
> >
> > Just thought that you might want to try reading what I
> > actually wrote for a change.
>
> You don't even knoiw wtf it means.

I wrote that sig, so I know exactly what it means. Anybody
remotely familiar with the literature should intuitively know
what it means. So, TC obviously has my condolences.

The mind-body connection in Great Britain was in common usage
prior to 1859, thanks to a quote made by Florence
Nightingale. http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutorials/n-
otes-on-nursing.html

The mind-body connection is slang for the more fully developed
biopsychosocial model of health and disease.

http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutorials/glossary.html
"The complex biopsychosocial model is concerned with illness,
the subjective sense of suffering or reduced capacity to
function. The biopsychosocial model is a much more complex
systems theory approach to health, illness and healing. It
does not look for single, specific causes for illness, but
sees health, illness and healing as resulting from the
interacting effects of events of very different types,
including biological, psychological, and social factors. All
of these are seen as systems that affect and interact with one
another to affect personal health"

So, the mind-body connection consists of three (3) basic
factors of health: biological, psychological, and social.

The most well known biological factors of health would be a
healthy diet, nutritional supplements, and physical exercise.
http://naturalhealthperspective.com

So, I just proved in writing just how stupid and WRONG TC, the
chronic complainer, always is.

Just thought that the ignoramuses on this ng might want to
update themselves on the literature that has existed since the
middle of the 19th century.

Who says so? I do. :)

Feel free to prove me wrong, Ignoramus.

[Tc]

How many people here understand what:

"Eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the mind -
body connection."

means?

TC

Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> TC wrote:
> > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > > TC wrote:
> > > > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > > > > Tony Burch wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was just pondering the idea of "gurus" & I
> > > > > > thought the following questions may hopefully make
> > > > > > some interesting & entertaining discussion:)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Including people in this newsgroup & others in the
> > > > > > field, whom do you consider to be the present-day
> > > > > > "gurus" in nutrition? ...I mean the people who
> > > > > > guide others, are inspirational & highly respected
> > > > > > for their work & contributions in this field.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who is your favourite guru & why?
> > > > >
> > > > > Me, myself, I and moi. :)
> > > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/
> > > > >
> > > > > I am recovering from yet another major computer
> > > > > crash. :(
> > > >
> > > > Wtf does:
> > > >
> > > > "Eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the
> > > > mind - body connection."
> > > >
> > > > mean?????????????????????
> > >
> > > TC, You need to use reading glasses. You can buy them at
> > > Wal-Mart for a couple of bucks. Do you need a loan?
> > >
> > > Just thought that you might want to try reading what I
> > > actually wrote for a change.
> >
> > You don't even knoiw wtf it means.
>
> I wrote that sig, so I know exactly what it means. Anybody
> remotely familiar with the literature should intuitively
> know what it means. So, TC obviously has my condolences.
>
> The mind-body connection in Great Britain was in common
> usage prior to 1859, thanks to a quote made by Florence
> Nightingale. http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutorials/-
> notes-on-nursing.html
>
> The mind-body connection is slang for the more fully
> developed biopsychosocial model of health and disease.
>
> http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutorials/glossary.html
> "The complex biopsychosocial model is concerned with
> illness, the subjective sense of suffering or reduced
> capacity to function. The biopsychosocial model is a much
> more complex systems theory approach to health, illness and
> healing. It does not look for single, specific causes for
> illness, but sees health, illness and healing as resulting
> from the interacting effects of events of very different
> types, including biological, psychological, and social
> factors. All of these are seen as systems that affect and
> interact with one another to affect personal health"
>
> So, the mind-body connection consists of three (3) basic
> factors of health: biological, psychological, and social.
>
> The most well known biological factors of health would be a
> healthy diet, nutritional supplements, and physical
> exercise. http://naturalhealthperspective.com
>
> So, I just proved in writing just how stupid and WRONG TC,
> the chronic complainer, always is.
>
> Just thought that the ignoramuses on this ng might want to
> update themselves on the literature that has existed since
> the middle of the 19th century.
>
> Who says so? I do. :)
>
> Feel free to prove me wrong, Ignoramus.

[Mr. Natura]

TC wrote:
> > I wrote that sig, so I know exactly what it means. Anybody
> > remotely familiar with the literature should intuitively
> > know what it means. So, TC obviously has my condolences.
> >
> > The mind-body connection in Great Britain was in common
> > usage prior to 1859, thanks to a quote made by Florence
> > Nightingale. http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutorial-
> > s/notes-on-nursing.html
> >
> > The mind-body connection is slang for the more fully
> > developed biopsychosocial model of health and disease.
> >
> > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutorials/glossary.ht-
> > ml "The complex biopsychosocial model is concerned with
> > illness, the subjective sense of suffering or reduced
> > capacity to function. The biopsychosocial model is a much
> > more complex systems theory approach to health, illness
> > and healing. It does not look for single, specific causes
> > for illness, but sees health, illness and healing as
> > resulting from the interacting effects of events of very
> > different types, including biological, psychological, and
> > social factors. All of these are seen as systems that
> > affect and interact with one another to affect personal
> > health"
> >
> > So, the mind-body connection consists of three (3) basic
> > factors of health: biological, psychological, and social.
> >
> > The most well known biological factors of health would be
> > a healthy diet, nutritional supplements, and physical
> > exercise. http://naturalhealthperspective.com
> >
> > So, I just proved in writing just how stupid and WRONG TC,
> > the chronic complainer, always is.
> >
> > Just thought that the ignoramuses on this ng might want to
> > update themselves on the literature that has existed since
> > the middle of the 19th century.
> >
> How many people here understand what:
>
> "Eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the mind -
> body connection." means?
>
> TC

I have set up two different discussion forum groups where we
can discuss this issue, healthy diets, or any other natural
health and wellness issue in more detail.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Health-with-Attitude/
This Yahoo group offers both privacy and spam filtering.

http://groups.google.com/group/Natural-Health This Google
group is public.

http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-grains.html
--
John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a Science!

The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological factor
of the mind-body connection. Now, weighing in at 18 web pages,
the Nutrition of a Healthy Diet is with more documentation and
sharper terminology than ever before.
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/

> >
> > Feel free to prove me wrong, Ignoramus.

[Tc]

Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> TC wrote:
> > > I wrote that sig, so I know exactly what it means.
> > > Anybody remotely familiar with the literature should
> > > intuitively know what it means. So, TC obviously has my
> > > condolences.
> > >
> > > The mind-body connection in Great Britain was in common
> > > usage prior to 1859, thanks to a quote made by Florence
> > > Nightingale. http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutori-
> > > als/notes-on-nursing.html
> > >
> > > The mind-body connection is slang for the more fully
> > > developed biopsychosocial model of health and disease.
> > >
> > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutorials/glossary.-
> > > html "The complex biopsychosocial model is concerned
> > > with illness, the subjective sense of suffering or
> > > reduced capacity to function. The biopsychosocial model
> > > is a much more complex systems theory approach to
> > > health, illness and healing. It does not look for
> > > single, specific causes for illness, but sees health,
> > > illness and healing as resulting from the interacting
> > > effects of events of very different types, including
> > > biological, psychological, and social factors. All of
> > > these are seen as systems that affect and interact with
> > > one another to affect personal health"
> > >
> > > So, the mind-body connection consists of three (3) basic
> > > factors of health: biological, psychological, and
> > > social.
> > >
> > > The most well known biological factors of health would
> > > be a healthy diet, nutritional supplements, and physical
> > > exercise. http://naturalhealthperspective.com
> > >
> > > So, I just proved in writing just how stupid and WRONG
> > > TC, the chronic complainer, always is.
> > >
> > > Just thought that the ignoramuses on this ng might want
> > > to update themselves on the literature that has existed
> > > since the middle of the 19th century.
> > >
> > How many people here understand what:
> >
> > "Eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the mind
> > - body connection." means?
> >
> > TC
>
> I have set up two different discussion forum groups where we
> can discuss this issue, healthy diets, or any other natural
> health and wellness issue in more detail.
>
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Health-with-Attitude/
> This Yahoo group offers both privacy and spam filtering.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/Natural-Health This Google
> group is public.
>
> http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-grains.html
> --
> John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a
> Science!
>
> The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological
> factor of the mind-body connection. Now, weighing in at 18
> web pages, the Nutrition of a Healthy Diet is with more
> documentation and sharper terminology than ever before.
> http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/
>
> > >
> > > Feel free to prove me wrong, Ignoramus.

You still have failed to explain what it means.

TC

[Mr. Natura]

> Tony Burch wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was just pondering the idea of "gurus" & I thought the
> > following questions may hopefully make some interesting &
> > entertaining discussion:)
> >
> > Including people in this newsgroup & others in the field,
> > whom do you consider to be the present-day "gurus" in
> > nutrition? ...I mean the people who guide others, are
> > inspirational & highly respected for their work &
> > contributions in this field.
> >
> > Who is your favourite guru & why?
>
> Me, myself, I and moi. :)
> http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/
>
> I am recovering from yet another major computer crash. :(

Even though I was using a really slow computer, I was still
able to transfer my website to a new server. This computer
only has 28K of RAM. :(

Today, I bought a Dell DHP computer for $150 from Jesus Saves
Thrift Shop in Richmond, VA. All the software was operational
and included.
:)

http://www.propertyroom.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay-
?prrfnbr=65035909&prmenbr=31895249&aunbr=65382619 One Dell DHP
desktop computer with XP Professional operating system.
Features: Intel Pentium 4 2.26GHz processor, 256MB of RAM,
40GB hard drive, one cd-rom drive, one floppy drive, keyboard,
mouse and 14 inch monitor. Measurements: 13.75" x 4" x 12.5".

My web journeys should get smoother. Everytime I buy another
computer, I get more value for less and less money. :)

TC who?, I say. Sorry, but I have my own flock of followers to
attend to. I do not have time for mentally challenged low
achievers who are unable to keep up with 150 year old
literature on the mind-body connection.

Remember this TC, Jesus saved me from my computer troubles. I
will pray for your salvation, TC. :)

[Mr. Natura]

> Tony Burch wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was just pondering the idea of "gurus" & I thought the
> > following questions may hopefully make some interesting &
> > entertaining discussion:)
> >
> > Including people in this newsgroup & others in the field,
> > whom do you consider to be the present-day "gurus" in
> > nutrition? ...I mean the people who guide others, are
> > inspirational & highly respected for their work &
> > contributions in this field.
> >
> > Who is your favourite guru & why?
>
> Me, myself, I and moi. :)
> http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/
>
> I am recovering from yet another major computer crash. :(

Even though I was using a really slow computer, I was still
able to transfer my website to a new server. This computer
only has 28K of RAM. :(

Today, I bought a Dell DHP computer for $150 from Jesus Saves
Thrift Shop in Richmond, VA. All the software was operational
and included.
:)

http://www.propertyroom.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay-
?prrfnbr=65035909&prmenbr=31895249&aunbr=65382619 One Dell DHP
desktop computer with XP Professional operating system.
Features: Intel Pentium 4 2.26GHz processor, 256MB of RAM,
40GB hard drive, one cd-rom drive, one floppy drive, keyboard,
mouse and 14 inch monitor. Measurements: 13.75" x 4" x 12.5".

My web journeys should get smoother. Everytime I buy another
computer, I get more value for less and less money. :)

TC who?, I say. Sorry, but I have my own flock of followers to
attend to. I do not have time for mentally challenged low
achievers who are unable to keep up with 150 year old
literature on the mind-body connection.

Remember this TC, Jesus saved me from my computer troubles. I
will pray for your salvation, TC. :)

[Tc]

Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> TC wrote:
> > > I wrote that sig, so I know exactly what it means.
> > > Anybody remotely familiar with the literature should
> > > intuitively know what it means. So, TC obviously has my
> > > condolences.
> > >
> > > The mind-body connection in Great Britain was in common
> > > usage prior to 1859, thanks to a quote made by Florence
> > > Nightingale. http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutori-
> > > als/notes-on-nursing.html
> > >
> > > The mind-body connection is slang for the more fully
> > > developed biopsychosocial model of health and disease.
> > >
> > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutorials/glossary.-
> > > html "The complex biopsychosocial model is concerned
> > > with illness, the subjective sense of suffering or
> > > reduced capacity to function. The biopsychosocial model
> > > is a much more complex systems theory approach to
> > > health, illness and healing. It does not look for
> > > single, specific causes for illness, but sees health,
> > > illness and healing as resulting from the interacting
> > > effects of events of very different types, including
> > > biological, psychological, and social factors. All of
> > > these are seen as systems that affect and interact with
> > > one another to affect personal health"
> > >
> > > So, the mind-body connection consists of three (3) basic
> > > factors of health: biological, psychological, and
> > > social.
> > >
> > > The most well known biological factors of health would
> > > be a healthy diet, nutritional supplements, and physical
> > > exercise. http://naturalhealthperspective.com
> > >
> > > So, I just proved in writing just how stupid and WRONG
> > > TC, the chronic complainer, always is.
> > >
> > > Just thought that the ignoramuses on this ng might want
> > > to update themselves on the literature that has existed
> > > since the middle of the 19th century.
> > >
> > How many people here understand what:
> >
> > "Eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the mind
> > - body connection." means?
> >
> > TC
>
> I have set up two different discussion forum groups where we
> can discuss this issue, healthy diets, or any other natural
> health and wellness issue in more detail.
>
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Health-with-Attitude/
> This Yahoo group offers both privacy and spam filtering.

Activity within 7 days:(No Activity)

ONE post since August of 2005.

>
> http://groups.google.com/group/Natural-Health This Google
> group is public.

36 posts since Aug 4 2005. Most by you.

>
> http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-grains.html
> --
> John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a
> Science!
>
> The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological
> factor of the mind-body connection. Now, weighing in at 18
> web pages, the Nutrition of a Healthy Diet is with more
> documentation and sharper terminology than ever before.
> http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/
>
> > >
> > > Feel free to prove me wrong, Ignoramus.

Your irrelevance is obvious. Go away and no one will
ever miss you.

TC

[Mr. Natura]

TC wrote:
> Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > TC wrote:
> > > > I wrote that sig, so I know exactly what it means.
> > > > Anybody remotely familiar with the literature should
> > > > intuitively know what it means. So, TC obviously has
> > > > my condolences.
> > > >
> > > > The mind-body connection in Great Britain was in
> > > > common usage prior to 1859, thanks to a quote made by
> > > > Florence Nightingale. http://naturalhealthperspective-
> > > > .com/tutorials/notes-on-nursing.html
> > > >
> > > > The mind-body connection is slang for the more fully
> > > > developed biopsychosocial model of health and disease.
> > > >
> > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutorials/glossar-
> > > > y.html "The complex biopsychosocial model is concerned
> > > > with illness, the subjective sense of suffering or
> > > > reduced capacity to function. The biopsychosocial
> > > > model is a much more complex systems theory approach
> > > > to health, illness and healing. It does not look for
> > > > single, specific causes for illness, but sees health,
> > > > illness and healing as resulting from the interacting
> > > > effects of events of very different types, including
> > > > biological, psychological, and social factors. All of
> > > > these are seen as systems that affect and interact
> > > > with one another to affect personal health"
> > > >
> > > > So, the mind-body connection consists of three (3)
> > > > basic factors of health: biological, psychological,
> > > > and social.
> > > >
> > > > The most well known biological factors of health would
> > > > be a healthy diet, nutritional supplements, and
> > > > physical exercise. http://naturalhealthperspective.com
> > > >
> > > > So, I just proved in writing just how stupid and WRONG
> > > > TC, the chronic complainer, always is.
> > > >
> > > > Just thought that the ignoramuses on this ng might
> > > > want to update themselves on the literature that has
> > > > existed since the middle of the 19th century.
> > > >
> > > How many people here understand what:
> > >
> > > "Eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the
> > > mind - body connection." means?
> > >
> > > TC
> >
> > I have set up two different discussion forum groups where
> > we can discuss this issue, healthy diets, or any other
> > natural health and wellness issue in more detail.
> >
> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Health-with-Attitude/
> > This Yahoo group offers both privacy and spam filtering.
>
> Activity within 7 days:(No Activity)
>
> ONE post since August of 2005.
>
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/Natural-Health This Google
> > group is public.
>
> 36 posts since Aug 4 2005. Most by you.
>
> >
> > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-grains.html
> > --
> > John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a
> > Science!
> >
> > The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological
> > factor of the mind-body connection. Now, weighing in at 18
> > web pages, the Nutrition of a Healthy Diet is with more
> > documentation and sharper terminology than ever before.
> > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/
> >
> > > >
> > > > Feel free to prove me wrong, Ignoramus.
>
> Your irrelevance is obvious. Go away and no one will ever
> miss you.

Your negativity matches that of an ignoramous that is 150
years out of date.

All it takes is one hot air balloon to start talking on these
groups. I have great confidence that a talkative person will
soon find these forums.

And, you are still the idiot who knows absolutely nothing
about the mind-body connection. And, I do not mind saying that
you are total buffoon.

And, now THAT I have a XP professional computer with 256K of
RAM to plan my next attack on TC 'the Complainer' WHO THE HELL
NEEDS YOU?

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

[Tc]

Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> TC wrote:
> > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > > TC wrote:
> > > > > I wrote that sig, so I know exactly what it means.
> > > > > Anybody remotely familiar with the literature should
> > > > > intuitively know what it means. So, TC obviously has
> > > > > my condolences.
> > > > >
> > > > > The mind-body connection in Great Britain was in
> > > > > common usage prior to 1859, thanks to a quote made
> > > > > by Florence Nightingale. http://naturalhealthperspe-
> > > > > ctive.com/tutorials/notes-on-nursing.html
> > > > >
> > > > > The mind-body connection is slang for the more fully
> > > > > developed biopsychosocial model of health and
> > > > > disease.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutorials/gloss-
> > > > > ary.html "The complex biopsychosocial model is
> > > > > concerned with illness, the subjective sense of
> > > > > suffering or reduced capacity to function. The
> > > > > biopsychosocial model is a much more complex systems
> > > > > theory approach to health, illness and healing. It
> > > > > does not look for single, specific causes for
> > > > > illness, but sees health, illness and healing as
> > > > > resulting from the interacting effects of events of
> > > > > very different types, including biological,
> > > > > psychological, and social factors. All of these are
> > > > > seen as systems that affect and interact with one
> > > > > another to affect personal health"
> > > > >
> > > > > So, the mind-body connection consists of three (3)
> > > > > basic factors of health: biological, psychological,
> > > > > and social.
> > > > >
> > > > > The most well known biological factors of health
> > > > > would be a healthy diet, nutritional supplements,
> > > > > and physical exercise.
> > > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com
> > > > >
> > > > > So, I just proved in writing just how stupid and
> > > > > WRONG TC, the chronic complainer, always is.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just thought that the ignoramuses on this ng might
> > > > > want to update themselves on the literature that has
> > > > > existed since the middle of the 19th century.
> > > > >
> > > > How many people here understand what:
> > > >
> > > > "Eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the
> > > > mind - body connection." means?
> > > >
> > > > TC
> > >
> > > I have set up two different discussion forum groups
> > > where we can discuss this issue, healthy diets, or any
> > > other natural health and wellness issue in more detail.
> > >
> > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Health-with-Attitu-
> > > de/ This Yahoo group offers both privacy and spam
> > > filtering.
> >
> > Activity within 7 days:(No Activity)
> >
> > ONE post since August of 2005.
> >
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/Natural-Health This
> > > Google group is public.
> >
> > 36 posts since Aug 4 2005. Most by you.
> >
> > >
> > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-grains.-
> > > html
> > > --
> > > John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a
> > > Science!
> > >
> > > The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological
> > > factor of the mind-body connection. Now, weighing in at
> > > 18 web pages, the Nutrition of a Healthy Diet is with
> > > more documentation and sharper terminology than ever
> > > before. http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Feel free to prove me wrong, Ignoramus.
> >
> > Your irrelevance is obvious. Go away and no one will ever
> > miss you.
>
> Your negativity matches that of an ignoramous that is 150
> years out of date.
>
> All it takes is one hot air balloon to start talking on
> these groups. I have great confidence that a talkative
> person will soon find these forums.
>
> And, you are still the idiot who knows absolutely nothing
> about the mind-body connection. And, I do not mind saying
> that you are total buffoon.
>
> And, now THAT I have a XP professional computer with 256K of
> RAM to plan my next attack on TC 'the Complainer' WHO THE
> HELL NEEDS YOU?
>
> Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

The simple fact of the matter is that no-one and I mean
NO-ONE is interested in your point of view. The complete
lack of traffic on your site and on your groups reflect that
very clearly.

You are irrelevant. And I will now join the rest of the world
in ignoring you.

And that ain't much RAM. XP won't run ot that. It needs 256
MEGS. Idiot.

TC

[Mr. Natura]

TC wrote:
> Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > TC wrote:
> > > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > > > TC wrote:
> > > > > > I wrote that sig, so I know exactly what it means.
> > > > > > Anybody remotely familiar with the literature
> > > > > > should intuitively know what it means. So, TC
> > > > > > obviously has my condolences.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The mind-body connection in Great Britain was in
> > > > > > common usage prior to 1859, thanks to a quote made
> > > > > > by Florence Nightingale. http://naturalhealthpers-
> > > > > > pective.com/tutorials/notes-on-nursing.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The mind-body connection is slang for the more
> > > > > > fully developed biopsychosocial model of health
> > > > > > and disease.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutorials/glo-
> > > > > > ssary.html "The complex biopsychosocial model is
> > > > > > concerned with illness, the subjective sense of
> > > > > > suffering or reduced capacity to function. The
> > > > > > biopsychosocial model is a much more complex
> > > > > > systems theory approach to health, illness and
> > > > > > healing. It does not look for single, specific
> > > > > > causes for illness, but sees health, illness and
> > > > > > healing as resulting from the interacting effects
> > > > > > of events of very different types, including
> > > > > > biological, psychological, and social factors. All
> > > > > > of these are seen as systems that affect and
> > > > > > interact with one another to affect personal
> > > > > > health"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, the mind-body connection consists of three (3)
> > > > > > basic factors of health: biological,
> > > > > > psychological, and social.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The most well known biological factors of health
> > > > > > would be a healthy diet, nutritional supplements,
> > > > > > and physical exercise.
> > > > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, I just proved in writing just how stupid and
> > > > > > WRONG TC, the chronic complainer, always is.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just thought that the ignoramuses on this ng might
> > > > > > want to update themselves on the literature that
> > > > > > has existed since the middle of the 19th century.
> > > > > >
> > > > > How many people here understand what:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the
> > > > > mind - body connection." means?
> > > > >
> > > > > TC
> > > >
> > > > I have set up two different discussion forum groups
> > > > where we can discuss this issue, healthy diets, or any
> > > > other natural health and wellness issue in more
> > > > detail.
> > > >
> > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Health-with-Atti-
> > > > tude/ This Yahoo group offers both privacy and spam
> > > > filtering.
> > >
> > > Activity within 7 days:(No Activity)
> > >
> > > ONE post since August of 2005.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/Natural-Health This
> > > > Google group is public.
> > >
> > > 36 posts since Aug 4 2005. Most by you.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-grains-
> > > > .html
> > > > --
> > > > John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a
> > > > Science!
> > > >
> > > > The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological
> > > > factor of the mind-body connection. Now, weighing in
> > > > at 18 web pages, the Nutrition of a Healthy Diet is
> > > > with more documentation and sharper terminology than
> > > > ever before. http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Feel free to prove me wrong, Ignoramus.
> > >
> > > Your irrelevance is obvious. Go away and no one will
> > > ever miss you.
> >
> > Your negativity matches that of an ignoramous that is 150
> > years out of date.
> >
> > All it takes is one hot air balloon to start talking on
> > these groups. I have great confidence that a talkative
> > person will soon find these forums.
> >
> > And, you are still the idiot who knows absolutely nothing
> > about the mind-body connection. And, I do not mind saying
> > that you are total buffoon.
> >
> > And, now THAT I have a XP professional computer with 256K
> > of RAM to plan my next attack on TC 'the Complainer' WHO
> > THE HELL NEEDS YOU?
> >
> > Ha, ... Hah, Ha!
>
> The simple fact of the matter is that no-one and I mean
> NO-ONE is interested in your point of view. The complete
> lack of traffic on your site and on your groups reflect that
> very clearly.

Well, you are the one who is the idiot.

I clearly wrote new rules on both groups. The google group up
till now had moderated messages. Now, all members can
immediately post.

The yahoo group was a newsletter which was inactive due to my
own design. I changed it to a public discussion group format.
During my absence, I have noticed that yahoo has added a spam
filter option. This could be what is needed to auto filter out
spam. If it works, I might start yet a 3rd group.

The primary problem has been my major computer failure. I was
using a HP computer which apparently had a defective system
board. It finally gave up the ghost, when Windows98 decided to
stop working entirely. All my recent data is NOT accessible by
me and may never be. Even when it was working, it only had 64
Megs of Ram. :(

> And that ain't much RAM. XP won't run ot that. It needs 256
> MEGS. Idiot.

That is correct, it is 256 Megs rather than K.

My new baby XP is too good to waste on the Internet. I was
going to buy one for around $500 to 600. Now, I do not
have too. :)

Last year, I fished a Windows95 computer system out of the
dumpster. I never did much with it because it was somewhat
password protected. Turns out that it has 40 Megs of Ram. And,
because Windows95 is smaller the online speed is quite
acceptable. Even with its 28K modem, my ISP software is
reporting the fastest connection speed ever: 56K!!!! How a 28K
modem can connect at 56K is beyond me. Its only real problem
is a 1 Gig HD.

So, the Window95 computer is now my trash computer used only
for the Internet. For $15, the price of a Ethernet card, it is
connected to my XP computer for file transfers. The only
computers dying on me now, will be my Internet computers.
Because they keep on locking up.

So, now that my Internet activities are nolonger painfully
slow. I will start promoting both groups. And, you will remain
a Kook as always. :)

Just thought that you might want to know.

[Tc]

Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> TC wrote:
> > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > > TC wrote:
> > > > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > > > > TC wrote:
> > > > > > > I wrote that sig, so I know exactly what it
> > > > > > > means. Anybody remotely familiar with the
> > > > > > > literature should intuitively know what it
> > > > > > > means. So, TC obviously has my condolences.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The mind-body connection in Great Britain was in
> > > > > > > common usage prior to 1859, thanks to a quote
> > > > > > > made by Florence Nightingale. http://naturalhea-
> > > > > > > lthperspective.com/tutorials/notes-on-nursing.h-
> > > > > > > tml
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The mind-body connection is slang for the more
> > > > > > > fully developed biopsychosocial model of health
> > > > > > > and disease.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutorials/g-
> > > > > > > lossary.html "The complex biopsychosocial model
> > > > > > > is concerned with illness, the subjective sense
> > > > > > > of suffering or reduced capacity to function.
> > > > > > > The biopsychosocial model is a much more complex
> > > > > > > systems theory approach to health, illness and
> > > > > > > healing. It does not look for single, specific
> > > > > > > causes for illness, but sees health, illness and
> > > > > > > healing as resulting from the interacting
> > > > > > > effects of events of very different types,
> > > > > > > including biological, psychological, and social
> > > > > > > factors. All of these are seen as systems that
> > > > > > > affect and interact with one another to affect
> > > > > > > personal health"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, the mind-body connection consists of three
> > > > > > > (3) basic factors of health: biological,
> > > > > > > psychological, and social.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The most well known biological factors of health
> > > > > > > would be a healthy diet, nutritional
> > > > > > > supplements, and physical exercise.
> > > > > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, I just proved in writing just how stupid and
> > > > > > > WRONG TC, the chronic complainer, always is.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just thought that the ignoramuses on this ng
> > > > > > > might want to update themselves on the
> > > > > > > literature that has existed since the middle of
> > > > > > > the 19th century.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > How many people here understand what:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of
> > > > > > the mind - body connection." means?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TC
> > > > >
> > > > > I have set up two different discussion forum groups
> > > > > where we can discuss this issue, healthy diets, or
> > > > > any other natural health and wellness issue in more
> > > > > detail.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Health-with-At-
> > > > > titude/ This Yahoo group offers both privacy and
> > > > > spam filtering.
> > > >
> > > > Activity within 7 days:(No Activity)
> > > >
> > > > ONE post since August of 2005.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/Natural-Health This
> > > > > Google group is public.
> > > >
> > > > 36 posts since Aug 4 2005. Most by you.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-grai-
> > > > > ns.html
> > > > > --
> > > > > John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT
> > > > > a Science!
> > > > >
> > > > > The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a
> > > > > biological factor of the mind-body connection. Now,
> > > > > weighing in at 18 web pages, the Nutrition of a
> > > > > Healthy Diet is with more documentation and sharper
> > > > > terminology than ever before.
> > > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Feel free to prove me wrong, Ignoramus.
> > > >
> > > > Your irrelevance is obvious. Go away and no one will
> > > > ever miss you.
> > >
> > > Your negativity matches that of an ignoramous that is
> > > 150 years out of date.
> > >
> > > All it takes is one hot air balloon to start talking on
> > > these groups. I have great confidence that a talkative
> > > person will soon find these forums.
> > >
> > > And, you are still the idiot who knows absolutely
> > > nothing about the mind-body connection. And, I do not
> > > mind saying that you are total buffoon.
> > >
> > > And, now THAT I have a XP professional computer with
> > > 256K of RAM to plan my next attack on TC 'the
> > > Complainer' WHO THE HELL NEEDS YOU?
> > >
> > > Ha, ... Hah, Ha!
> >
> > The simple fact of the matter is that no-one and I mean
> > NO-ONE is interested in your point of view. The complete
> > lack of traffic on your site and on your groups reflect
> > that very clearly.
>
> Well, you are the one who is the idiot.
>
> I clearly wrote new rules on both groups. The google group
> up till now had moderated messages. Now, all members can
> immediately post.

ohhhhh, riiiiiiight, suuuuurrrree

>
> The yahoo group was a newsletter which was inactive due to
> my own design. I changed it to a public discussion group
> format. During my absence, I have noticed that yahoo has
> added a spam filter option. This could be what is needed
> to auto filter out spam. If it works, I might start yet a
> 3rd group.

a group designed for inactivity. right.

>
> The primary problem has been my major computer failure. I
> was using a HP computer which apparently had a defective
> system board. It finally gave up the ghost, when Windows98
> decided to stop working entirely. All my recent data is NOT
> accessible by me and may never be. Even when it was working,
> it only had 64 Megs of Ram. :(

So that is why the crowds have stayed away in droves, your
poor hardware. well that explains it all.

>
> > And that ain't much RAM. XP won't run ot that. It needs
> > 256 MEGS. Idiot.
>
> That is correct, it is 256 Megs rather than K.
>
> My new baby XP is too good to waste on the Internet. I was
> going to buy one for around $500 to 600. Now, I do not
> have too. :)
>
> Last year, I fished a Windows95 computer system out of the
> dumpster. I never did much with it because it was somewhat
> password protected. Turns out that it has 40 Megs of Ram.
> And, because Windows95 is smaller the online speed is quite
> acceptable. Even with its 28K modem, my ISP software is
> reporting the fastest connection speed ever: 56K!!!! How a
> 28K modem can connect at 56K is beyond me. Its only real
> problem is a 1 Gig HD.
>
> So, the Window95 computer is now my trash computer used only
> for the Internet. For $15, the price of a Ethernet card, it
> is connected to my XP computer for file transfers. The only
> computers dying on me now, will be my Internet computers.
> Because they keep on locking up.
>
> So, now that my Internet activities are nolonger painfully
> slow. I will start promoting both groups. And, you will
> remain a Kook as always. :)
>
> Just thought that you might want to know.

No body cares about your new computer or your old computer or
your groups, or your opinion, or you for that matter. So FOAD.

TC

[Mr. Natura]

For TC 'the Complainer:

http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-grains.html
--
John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a Science!

The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological factor
of the mind-body connection. Now, weighing in at 18 web pages,
the Nutrition of a Healthy Diet is with more documentation and
sharper terminology than ever before.
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/

I have set up two different discussion forum groups where we
can discuss this issue, healthy diets, or Natural Health and
Wellness issues in more detail. Both groups have around 250
members each. Why not explain it to a new audience?

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Health-with-Attitude/
This Yahoo group offers both privacy and spam filtering.

http://groups.google.com/group/Natural-Health This Google
group is public.

[Tc]

Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> For TC 'the Complainer:
>
> http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-grains.html
> --
> John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a
> Science!
>
> The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological
> factor of the mind-body connection.

What the fuck does that mean?????????

And NOBODY cares about what you say or what you write or what
you think. You are a lonely little irrelevant voice in the
wilderness and will remain thus ad infinitum.

TC

[Mr. Natura]

TC wrote:
> Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > For TC 'the Complainer:
> >
> > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-grains.html
> > --
> > John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a
> > Science!
> >
> > The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological
> > factor of the mind-body connection.
>
>
> What the fuck does that mean?????????
>
> And NOBODY cares about what you say or what you write or
> what you think. You are a lonely little irrelevant voice in
> the wilderness and will remain thus ad infinitum.

What the fuck does that mean?????????

And NOBODY cares about what you say or what you write or what
you think. You are a lonely little irrelevant voice in the
wilderness and will remain thus ad infinitum.

Just thought that you might want to know. You appear to be
mentally slow.

You have my condolences.

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

LOL

Yes, I am having a good laugh at the chronic compainer. :)

[Cathyb]

Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> TC wrote:
> > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > > For TC 'the Complainer:
> > >
> > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-grains.-
> > > html
> > > --
> > > John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a
> > > Science!
> > >
> > > The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological
> > > factor of the mind-body connection.
> >
> >
> > What the fuck does that mean?????????
> >
> > And NOBODY cares about what you say or what you write or
> > what you think. You are a lonely little irrelevant voice
> > in the wilderness and will remain thus ad infinitum.

Sort of like John Gohde, then. After all, who's going to
listen to someone who thinks:

"A couple of interesting and funny websites. Sadly, we
continue to suffer from the presence of the negro variety of
homo sapiens.

John"

http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.politics/msg/5ce8e8f7c1-
6e7ad0?dmode=source

<snip

[Mr. Natura]

cathyb wrote:
> Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > TC wrote:
> > > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > > > For TC 'the Complainer:
> > > >
> > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-grains-
> > > > .html
> > > > --
> > > > John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a
> > > > Science!
> > > >
> > > > The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological
> > > > factor of the mind-body connection.
> > >
> > >
> > > What the fuck does that mean?????????
> > >
> > > And NOBODY cares about what you say or what you write or
> > > what you think. You are a lonely little irrelevant voice
> > > in the wilderness and will remain thus ad infinitum.
>
> Sort of like John Gohde, then. After all, who's going to
> listen to someone who thinks:
>
> "A couple of interesting and funny websites. Sadly, we
> continue to suffer from the presence of the negro variety of
> homo sapiens.

Ditto!

Yeah, the variety of human beings who kill people for
absolutely no logical reason like the Harvey family in
Richmond, VA on new years day. The dude cut their throats.
And, kept on banging them in the head with a hammer because
they kept on geting up. Not to mention their two little girls.

That dude was just convicted of murder in only 30 minutes.
They don't have OJ style trials in Virginia. :)

Just thought that you might want to know that you are in
the minority.
:)

[Marshall P]

Carl Pfeiffer.

When I knew him, he was the founder and chief poobah of the
Brain Bio Center, in Princeton (actually Skillman), NJ, where
he'd set up an incredible laboratory of very state-of-the-art
equipment, with which he made major contributions to
biochemistry, and wrote _Mental and Elemental Nutrients_,
_Zinc and Other Trace Elements_, and many, more specialized,
books and articles on the brain and how various environmental
conditions (including, but not limited to, diet) affected it
and caused or cured problems, such as the dozen-or-more kinds
of headaches, the half-dozen biochemical profiles of
schizophrenia, previously unknown effects of trace elements
and their interactions, unknown blood constituents, and so on.

He was often regarded as connected with the
"orthomolecular" school, though at its cutting edge: doing
his own thing, rather than following the others. He admired
their early leaders.

He had two doctorates and had been the chief research
pharmacologist of the U.S. Navy for twenty or thirty years.
His wife, too, had a doctorate (in pharmacology, I think), and
worked together with him.

He did me a special favor. Knowing I wanted the full battery
of tests his lab could run (mass spectroscopy,
electrophoresis, etc.: things now much less exotic than they
were then) on my hair, blood, feces, urine; but that I was
strapped for cash, he invited me to come over on a quiet
weekend to help him paint a wall of the building! While we
worked, we discussed the "Krebs cycle" and "Embden-Meyerhoff
pathway", and he told me (to my surprise) that though many
people studied them, few mastered them, yet they were the
"keys to everything" (whatever that meant!). I'm still
learning, bit by bit (30 years later), what he had in mind. In
fact, it was only recently that I discovered there was more
(much more!) to metabolism.

But I've never found anything he was wrong about, except
_maybe_ (I emphasize maybe) what the ideal dietary
sodium/potassium ratio ought to be. He was very pro-potassium,
perhaps too much. On the other hand, it might just have been
me. I eliminated as much sodium as I could from my diet,
including not only added salt and meats, but even onions,
celery, etc. Then one hot day in New Orleans, I took a bit of
salt on a hunch and discovered I felt much better within
seconds. Hyponatremia! And I thought it couldn't happen....

--
Marshall Price of Miami Known to Yahoo as d021317c

[Marshall P]

Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> The mind-body connection is slang for the more fully
> developed biopsychosocial model of health and disease.

We have Descartes to thank for the mind-body dichotomy! :-)

--
Marshall Price of Miami Known to Yahoo as d021317c

[Excatholic]

Mr. Natural-Health wrote:

> cathyb wrote:
> > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > > TC wrote:
> > > > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > > > > For TC 'the Complainer:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-grai-
> > > > > ns.html
> > > > > --
> > > > > John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT
> > > > > a Science!
> > > > >
> > > > > The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a
> > > > > biological factor of the mind-body connection.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What the fuck does that mean?????????
> > > >
> > > > And NOBODY cares about what you say or what you write
> > > > or what you think. You are a lonely little irrelevant
> > > > voice in the wilderness and will remain thus ad
> > > > infinitum.
> >
> > Sort of like John Gohde, then. After all, who's going to
> > listen to someone who thinks:
> >
> > "A couple of interesting and funny websites. Sadly, we
> > continue to suffer from the presence of the negro variety
> > of homo sapiens.
>
> Ditto!
>
> Yeah, the variety of human beings who kill people for
> absolutely no logical reason like the Harvey family in
> Richmond, VA on new years day. The dude cut their throats.
> And, kept on banging them in the head with a hammer
> because they kept on geting up. Not to mention their two
> little girls.
>
> That dude was just convicted of murder in only 30 minutes.
> They don't have OJ style trials in Virginia. :)
>
> Just thought that you might want to know that you are in the
> minority.
> :)

Only under the rock where you've made your home, Gohde. But
thank you for proving my point.

[Mr. Natura]

excatholic wrote:
> Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
>
> > cathyb wrote:
> > > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > > > TC wrote:
> > > > > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > > > > > For TC 'the Complainer:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-gr-
> > > > > > ains.html
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art,
> > > > > > NOT a Science!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a
> > > > > > biological factor of the mind-body connection.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What the fuck does that mean?????????
> > > > >
> > > > > And NOBODY cares about what you say or what you
> > > > > write or what you think. You are a lonely little
> > > > > irrelevant voice in the wilderness and will remain
> > > > > thus ad infinitum.
> > >
> > > Sort of like John Gohde, then. After all, who's going to
> > > listen to someone who thinks:
> > >
> > > "A couple of interesting and funny websites. Sadly, we
> > > continue to suffer from the presence of the negro
> > > variety of homo sapiens.
> >
> > Ditto!
> >
> > Yeah, the variety of human beings who kill people for
> > absolutely no logical reason like the Harvey family in
> > Richmond, VA on new years day. The dude cut their throats.
> > And, kept on banging them in the head with a hammer
> > because they kept on geting up. Not to mention their two
> > little girls.
> >
> > That dude was just convicted of murder in only 30 minutes.
> > They don't have OJ style trials in Virginia. :)
> >
> > Just thought that you might want to know that you are in
> > the minority.
> > :)
>
> Only under the rock where you've made your home, Gohde. But
> thank you for proving my point.

You do NOT have a point, nor a brain. :)

In Virginia criminal trials do NOT go on for months and
months. A few days at most. :)

That Black dude was convicted in only 30 minutes by a jury of
his peers. Personally, I think the police should have
exterminated him on the spot. Would have saved the taxpayers a
whole lot of money.

All you academics should stay out of Virginia. Just like
Texas, Virginia believes in executing people. :)

Just thought that Academic slime balls might want to know.

[Jan Drew]

"excatholic" <cathybeesley@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:1155994377.772242.137800@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
>
>> cathyb wrote:
>> > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
>> > > TC wrote:
>> > > > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
>> > > > > For TC 'the Complainer:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-gra-
>> > > > > ins.html
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT
>> > > > > a Science!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a
>> > > > > biological factor of the mind-body connection.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > What the fuck does that mean?????????
>> > > >
>> > > > And NOBODY cares about what you say or what you write
>> > > > or what you think. You are a lonely little irrelevant
>> > > > voice in the wilderness and will remain thus ad
>> > > > infinitum.
>> >
>> > Sort of like John Gohde, then. After all, who's going to
>> > listen to someone who thinks:
>> >
>> > "A couple of interesting and funny websites. Sadly, we
>> > continue to suffer from the presence of the negro variety
>> > of homo sapiens.
>>
>> Ditto!
>>
>> Yeah, the variety of human beings who kill people for
>> absolutely no logical reason like the Harvey family in
>> Richmond, VA on new years day. The dude cut their throats.
>> And, kept on banging them in the head with a hammer
>> because they kept on geting up. Not to mention their two
>> little girls.
>>
>> That dude was just convicted of murder in only 30 minutes.
>> They don't have OJ style trials in Virginia. :)
>>
>> Just thought that you might want to know that you are in
>> the minority.
>> :)
>
> Only under the rock where you've made your home, Gohde. But
> thank you for proving my point.
>

Blatant liar, aka/cathyb wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/msg-
/9a5420afa57add11?hl=en&

Sorry about the name; my son gave it to me as a joke many
months ago, and sometimes it just shows up.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/msg-
/e500b9a388791e5a?hl=en&

Well, yes. It usually occurs when I post to a group other than
mha; I never remember to check which name is up there. Since
in this case the post was to a breast implant group I've never
visited before, it happened here.

Why; what possible problem can you have with this? Do you hav
e any conception of how stupid you appear?

Jan Drew wrote:
> "cathyb" <cathybees...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message ne-
> ws:1149206348.037203.191360@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

> > excatholic wrote:

> I will show how DECEITFUL aka/cathy is:

> "excatholic" <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote in message news:114-
> 9205902.026203.163540@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

> She didn't want the readers to see that.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/msg-
/3b0c8736a0388100?hl=en&

Sure, Jan. That's why I posted it: so no-one would read it.

==

Well, NO she did NOT.

Blatant liar exposed.

[Cathyb]

Jan Drew wrote:
> "excatholic" <cathybeesley@optusnet.com.au> wrote in
> message news:1155994377.772242.137800@m73g2000cwd.googlegr-
> oups.com...
> >
> > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> >
> >> cathyb wrote:
> >> > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> >> > > TC wrote:
> >> > > > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> >> > > > > For TC 'the Complainer:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole-g-
> >> > > > > rains.html
> >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art,
> >> > > > > NOT a Science!
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a
> >> > > > > biological factor of the mind-body connection.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > What the fuck does that mean?????????
> >> > > >
> >> > > > And NOBODY cares about what you say or what you
> >> > > > write or what you think. You are a lonely little
> >> > > > irrelevant voice in the wilderness and will remain
> >> > > > thus ad infinitum.
> >> >
> >> > Sort of like John Gohde, then. After all, who's going
> >> > to listen to someone who thinks:
> >> >
> >> > "A couple of interesting and funny websites. Sadly, we
> >> > continue to suffer from the presence of the negro
> >> > variety of homo sapiens.
> >>
> >> Ditto!
> >>
> >> Yeah, the variety of human beings who kill people for
> >> absolutely no logical reason like the Harvey family in
> >> Richmond, VA on new years day. The dude cut their
> >> throats. And, kept on banging them in the head with a
> >> hammer because they kept on geting up. Not to mention
> >> their two little girls.
> >>
> >> That dude was just convicted of murder in only 30
> >> minutes. They don't have OJ style trials in Virginia. :)
> >>
> >> Just thought that you might want to know that you are in
> >> the minority.
> >> :)
> >
> > Only under the rock where you've made your home, Gohde.
> > But thank you for proving my point.
> >
>
> Blatant liar, aka/cathyb wrote:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/m-
> sg/9a5420afa57add11?hl=en&
>
> Sorry about the name; my son gave it to me as a joke many
> months ago, and sometimes it just shows up.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/m-
> sg/e500b9a388791e5a?hl=en&
>
> Well, yes. It usually occurs when I post to a group other
> than mha; I never remember to check which name is up there.
> Since in this case the post was to a breast implant group
> I've never visited before, it happened here.
>
> Why; what possible problem can you have with this? Do you
> hav e any conception of how stupid you appear?
>
>
> Jan Drew wrote:
> > "cathyb" <cathybees...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in
> > message news:1149206348.037203.191360@f6g2000cwb.googl-
> > egroups.com...
>
> > > excatholic wrote:
>
>
> > I will show how DECEITFUL aka/cathy is:
>
>
> > "excatholic" <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote in message news:1-
> > 149205902.026203.163540@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> > She didn't want the readers to see that.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/m-
> sg/3b0c8736a0388100?hl=en&
>
>
> Sure, Jan. That's why I posted it: so no-one would read it.
>
> ==
>
> Well, NO she did NOT.
>
> Blatant liar exposed.

Jan, did you have a point, other than proving yet again that
you don't know the meaning of the word "lie", and that you're
a half-witted, nasty old bint?

Your jumping in here, presumably to defend Gohde, is a
surprise, of course, since he's the only person here who
actually makes your vile anti-semitism, homophobia and various
other bigotries look relatively
mild.

[Jan Drew]

"cathyb" <cathybeesley@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:1156065486.294584.266530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> Jan Drew wrote:
>> "excatholic" <cathybeesley@optusnet.com.au> wrote in
>> message news:1155994377.772242.137800@m73g2000cwd.googlegr-
>> oups.com...
>> >
>> > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
>> >
>> >> cathyb wrote:
>> >> > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
>> >> > > TC wrote:
>> >> > > > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
>> >> > > > > For TC 'the Complainer:
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whole--
>> >> > > > > grains.html
>> >> > > > > --
>> >> > > > > John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art,
>> >> > > > > NOT a Science!
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a
>> >> > > > > biological factor of the mind-body connection.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > What the fuck does that mean?????????
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > And NOBODY cares about what you say or what you
>> >> > > > write or what you think. You are a lonely little
>> >> > > > irrelevant voice in the wilderness and will remain
>> >> > > > thus ad infinitum.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sort of like John Gohde, then. After all, who's going
>> >> > to listen to someone who thinks:
>> >> >
>> >> > "A couple of interesting and funny websites. Sadly, we
>> >> > continue to suffer from the presence of the negro
>> >> > variety of homo sapiens.
>> >>
>> >> Ditto!
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, the variety of human beings who kill people for
>> >> absolutely no logical reason like the Harvey family in
>> >> Richmond, VA on new years day. The dude cut their
>> >> throats. And, kept on banging them in the head with a
>> >> hammer because they kept on geting up. Not to mention
>> >> their two little girls.
>> >>
>> >> That dude was just convicted of murder in only 30
>> >> minutes. They don't have OJ style trials in Virginia. :)
>> >>
>> >> Just thought that you might want to know that you are in
>> >> the minority.
>> >> :)
>> >
>> > Only under the rock where you've made your home, Gohde.
>> > But thank you for proving my point.
>> >
>>
>> Blatant liar, aka/cathyb wrote:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/-
>> msg/9a5420afa57add11?hl=en&
>>
>> Sorry about the name; my son gave it to me as a joke many
>> months ago, and sometimes it just shows up.
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/-
>> msg/e500b9a388791e5a?hl=en&
>>
>> Well, yes. It usually occurs when I post to a group other
>> than mha; I never remember to check which name is up there.
>> Since in this case the post was to a breast implant group
>> I've never visited before, it happened here.
>>
>> Why; what possible problem can you have with this? Do you
>> hav e any conception of how stupid you appear?
>>
>>
>> Jan Drew wrote:
>> > "cathyb" <cathybees...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>> > news:1149206348.037203.191360@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.c-
>> > om...
>>
>> > > excatholic wrote:
>>
>>
>> > I will show how DECEITFUL aka/cathy is:
>>
>>
>> > "excatholic" <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote in message news:-
>> > 1149205902.026203.163540@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>> > She didn't want the readers to see that.
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/-
>> msg/3b0c8736a0388100?hl=en&
>>
>>
>> Sure, Jan. That's why I posted it: so no-one would read it.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Well, NO she did NOT.
>>
>> Blatant liar exposed.
>
> Jan, did you have a point,

My point is clearly posted.

other than proving yet again that you don't
> know the meaning of the word "lie", and that you're a
> half-witted, nasty old bint?

Insults and lies are noted.
>
> Your jumping in here, presumably to defend Gohde,

Your ASSumption is 100% wrong--as usual.

I did NOT defend Gohde.

is a surprise, of
> course, since he's the only person here who actually makes
> your vile anti-semitism, homophobia and various other
> bigotries look relatively
> mild.

Diversion noted.

excatholic liar.

[Mr. Natura]

Who is your favourite nutrition guru?

Who is my guru? Why me, of course.

And, this guru has a web site. :)
--
John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a Science!

The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological factor
of the mind-body connection. Now, weighing in at 18 web pages,
the Nutrition of a Healthy Diet is with more documentation and
sharper terminology than ever before.
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/

I just got finished moving my site to a new server. :)

It is now actually working, the way it is supposed to.
Redirection is offically a thing of the past.

I can now have up to 500 different POP3 email accounts with
auto-responders. Complete with spam filters.

And, my new web site statistical package just blows me away. I
can even design custom reports.

If I wanted to I can add a big database and a professional
blog package.

It is on a Linux server, so I can now store up to 15 Gigs of
files off my computer on my web site that will remain
invisible to the public; due to how Linux works.

On top of all that, I have managed to cut my operating cost
down to less than in half of what I was previously paying. :)

I am now paying the staggering sum of USA $0.004 an hour, 24
hours a day, 7 days a week to keep my web site running.
Clearly, you clowns could never afford $0.004 an hour to run a
real web site.

Just thought that you geeks might want to know. :)

[Cathyb]

Jan Drew wrote:
> "cathyb" <cathybeesley@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message ne-
> ws:1156065486.294584.266530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Jan Drew wrote:
> >> "excatholic" <cathybeesley@optusnet.com.au> wrote in
> >> message news:1155994377.772242.137800@m73g2000cwd.google-
> >> groups.com...
> >> >
> >> > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> cathyb wrote:
> >> >> > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> >> >> > > TC wrote:
> >> >> > > > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> >> >> > > > > For TC 'the Complainer:
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/whol-
> >> >> > > > > e-grains.html
> >> >> > > > > --
> >> >> > > > > John Gohde, Achieving good Nutrition is an
> >> >> > > > > Art, NOT a Science!
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a
> >> >> > > > > biological factor of the mind-body connection.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > What the fuck does that mean?????????
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > And NOBODY cares about what you say or what you
> >> >> > > > write or what you think. You are a lonely little
> >> >> > > > irrelevant voice in the wilderness and will
> >> >> > > > remain thus ad infinitum.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sort of like John Gohde, then. After all, who's
> >> >> > going to listen to someone who thinks:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "A couple of interesting and funny websites. Sadly,
> >> >> > we continue to suffer from the presence of the negro
> >> >> > variety of homo sapiens.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ditto!
> >> >>
> >> >> Yeah, the variety of human beings who kill people for
> >> >> absolutely no logical reason like the Harvey family in
> >> >> Richmond, VA on new years day. The dude cut their
> >> >> throats. And, kept on banging them in the head with a
> >> >> hamme